Blackpill The 20/80 is only for online dating, IRL is more like 40/60

[TheRealChincel]

If you legit look like the guy in your signal then your problem is not your looks, you are just autistic.

Yet I get made fun of by women when I'm out in public and face hostility before ever saying a word to a cashier or secretary. I used to think I was average or a little below but the treatment I get pre-introduction is that of a 3. If I get the chance to "know" a girl, she treats me slightly better but those days are over. You're not the first to think it was something besides my looks but guys always rate me higher than my real-world rating.

 

[Ub2w]

Yet I get made fun of by women when I'm out in public and face hostility before ever saying a word to a cashier or secretary. I used to think I was average or a little below but the treatment I get pre-introduction is that of a 3. If I get the chance to "know" a girl, she treats me slightly better but those days are over. You're not the first to think it was something besides my looks but guys always rate me higher than my real-world rating.

I will kill to have your face idiot, 5/10 and neurotypical, I would have never know what Incel even means.

That guy is an masculine looking middle aged men, you probably can't even maintain an correct position when walking outside, I repeat, I'm clinically, diagnosed, actually nearly deformed, and even i m used to have some male friends, only people in the spectrum are friendless for 30 years.

 

[AChosenPeople]

First I will made clear that the pareto principle in this case especifies that 20% of men dont get the 80% of woman, but the 80% of the TOTAL sex, those that try to implied that 80% of woman are having intercourse with only 20% of men are clearly, retarded, delusional, and first and most don't know how the pareto rule works.

There's numerous studies that prove that only the 20% of man are the "clearly" the winners in hookups oriented apps like tinder and else, but when IRL situations happens and other factors that affect an male SMV other that looks, principally social status, this gap is reduced, according to my observations, to 40/60.

Now, if someone try to accuses me of bluepilled, get this in your heads, your looks are the principal factor to have success in the sexual(and mostly social) market, a 1/10, unless a billion outlier happens, will probably remain virgin for life, and in comparison a 9 will have an sexual life that only the most depraved porn can imagine, but, especially once the looks level rises to at least 4.5, other factors start to take as much importance as your appearance, such as, in order of importance: social status, neurotypicalism, level of inhibition, and personality.


An neurotypical, low inhibition, 6/10, for example, that belongs to the party world in college will have the same levels of sex or even sexually amog an 8/10 that pass all his social life in more "nerdy" elements like the geek world, this is sometimes that I have observed well, and I know half of this website are shut in autists, but how many normies you know that go to parties regularly? at least half of them, how many normies do you know that are 6/10? half of them, the numbers are simply too high to be only 20/80.


Now I will expect the sub 8 fakecels/copers to come at me at the speed of the light, but once you think about it without any emotionality, you see that it makes sense, tinder indeed is an source where many people are having a good sexual life without retrains, but is not the only source, its not even the majority of it, less that 25% of millenials are in tinder, and people are still losing their virginities in majority before their 20.

fakecel if you don't recognize it's entirely over

 

[Salustio]

You should not take tinder and okcupid as benchmarks.

 

[kekboi]

This is legit I think.

Your looks don't matter if you're above 7/10 or below 4/10.

However for 4/10 to 7/10 (where most people are) personality and status play a part in whether you can get laid or not.

This. 4/10 NTs are getting laid. They might have to put in a lot of effort, but because they are NT they don't really question this fact.

 

[anon]

I don't care about 6/10 normies. They're not incels and never will be. You can't be an incel if you're 6/10 unless you're a drooling autistic retard.

I'm an autistic sub4 incel, it's absolutely over for me. 6/10 is normie looks. Too many 6/10 normies here.

 

[Pasteleiro]

Everyone that has claimed 20/80 is legit has turned out to have some kind of complex and makes it too obvious they are not an incel.

 

[TheRealChincel]

I will kill to have your face idiot, 5/10 and neurotypical, I would have never know what Incel even means.

That guy is an masculine looking middle aged men, you probably can't even maintain an correct position when walking outside, I repeat, I'm clinically, diagnosed, actually nearly deformed, and even i m used to have some male friends, only people in the spectrum are friendless for 30 years.

I don't care about having friends but guys who look like me either get whales (which I tried and failed at) or they die alone. Sorry to hear that, OP, but many guys are on that level in respects to how women treat them once they assert themselves as romantic prospects. Your overall reception from people is undoubtedly worse than mine, that's clear, but don't ever for a minute think that being merely below average or average saves you from inceldom. It takes luck or being a to do that in the West nowadays. The former I've never had and the latter is sacrificing masculinity so pass.

 

[Ub2w]

but don't ever for a minute think that being merely below average or average saves you from inceldom.

The problem is that you are an aspie, my friend, that's why you can't even get whales, not your looks, half of my uncles look like you and almost half of them have woman outside their league.

 

[LastGerman]

while I certainly share the sentiment that white women are whores that race mix too much, they're still the least likely out of any race to racemix.

No and you have to consider this: White people are the minority of this world. In Germany, females like Katharina Schulze stated her declination towards white (old) men directly in a video and she has a leading position in the green party. Many females voted the green party. Specially females tend to vote for a leftist party.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

and one more thing

white women are the sluts of

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NIGNOGS!!!!!!

@Gokugetem @Ritalincel

https://incels.is/threads/i-may-have-been-just-permanently-banned-from-r-braincels.84733/

For white women and NIGNOGS it is probably more like 10/90 (10% of white women would not get f***** by 90% of nignogs while 90% of white western pigwomen would)

Bacteria level IQ.

 

[LastGerman]

The only hope is that there are other planets with white people (Nordic aliens)

The Ashtar Galactic Command will save us.

 

[catfishman23]

You should not take tinder and okcupid as benchmarks.

hahaha ok, so why has online dating been going on for nearly 20 years.

 

[CopeWithTheRope]

According to your observations? How exactly did you quantify this?

 

[Izayacel]

According to your observations? How exactly did you quantify this?

what observations, fucking guy neds to use facts

 

[Ub2w]

According to your observations? How exactly did you quantify this?

Simply observing how many normies go to parries frequently, and how many of them go to parties and how many of them are 5.5+, that according to my experiences, guarantees almost 100% a constant sexual life.

Tbh, my 6/10 middle brother go to parties a lot.

 

[Zesto]

The Ashtar Galactic Command will save us.

@DeformAspergerCel the rescue ships from Paleides are on the way.

Be patient.

 

[TheRealChincel]

The problem is that you are an aspie, my friend, that's why you can't even get whales, not your looks, half of my uncles look like you and almost half of them have woman outside their league.

You’re a psychologist and if so, you can diagnose online? Believe it or not, location matters and I live in an area where I’m considered to be an ugly ethnic. Relocating probably would’ve been feasible a generation ago but anti-MENA sentiment makes my predicament inescapable although admittedly better on a global scale. That’s how people see me so I’m either the lowest or second-lowest ethnic group wherever I go. Good for your uncles, they found women to settle for them. How long did they ride the pine and how much do they make?

 

[Ub2w]

You’re a psychologist and if so, you can diagnose online? Believe it or not, location matters and I live in an area where I’m considered to be an ugly ethnic. Relocating probably would’ve been feasible a generation ago but anti-MENA sentiment makes my predicament inescapable although admittedly better on a global scale. That’s how people see me so I’m either the lowest or second-lowest ethnic group wherever I go. Good for your uncles, they found women to settle for them. How long did they ride the pine and how much do they make?

They are mostly all poor fucks.

And again if you have friendless all your life then changing locations will not help you, you are autistic, its not fault, but you have to deal with it.

 

[Deleted member 12355]

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@DeformAspergerCel the rescue ships from Paleides are on the way.

Be patient.

 

[TheRealChincel]

They are mostly all poor fucks.

And again if you have friendless all your life then changing locations will not help you, you are autistic, its not fault, but you have to deal with it.

I’m not interested in friends but okay. My issue is being made fun of by women merely for existing, I’m not “stimming”, curling up my hand into a fist, or talking to myself. This is just me out and about being spotted by women who find my appearance to be objectionable. My clothing isn’t Cheeto or soda-stained and it’s fairly neat and bland so no Star Wars shirts or clown outfits. I’m merely a victim of ethnic looks and Tinder.

 

[Grotesque]

I’m not interested in friends but okay. My issue is being made fun of by women merely for existing, I’m not “stimming”, curling up my hand into a fist, or talking to myself. This is just me out and about being spotted by women who find my appearance to be objectionable. My clothing isn’t Cheeto or soda-stained and it’s fairly neat and bland so no Star Wars shirts or clown outfits. I’m merely a victim of ethnic looks and Tinder.

Not being interested in friends is enough for people to see you're an autistic defect. I agree that if you're attractive, you're mysterious... and if you're not, you're a weirdo creep. You're falling for the normalfag stereotypes of us, which allows them to say "just shower brah" as a socially acceptable replacement instead of calling us ugly genetic trash.

 

[Ub2w]

Not being interested in friends is enough for people to see you're an autistic defect. I agree that if you're attractive, you're mysterious... and if you're not, you're a weirdo creep. You're falling for the normalfag stereotypes of us, which allows them to say "just shower brah" as a socially acceptable replacement instead of calling us ugly genetic trash.

Theres more that and attractive you know, average looking males can't act like total Autist and expect no social repercussions.

 

[Grotesque]

You should as online dating is quickly becoming the only acceptable way to meet people.

It already is. How is an ugly guy supposed to get the attention of a woman? They are always on their phone, even little girls. Unless you can find the rare unicorn that's not into phone shit, you have to play the online dating game.

 

[happiless]

First I will made clear that the pareto principle in this case especifies that 20% of men dont get the 80% of woman, but the 80% of the TOTAL sex

Agreed and this is what's backed by studies. Looks and status is what matters for relationships. We have neither so we get neither. But even ugly men can have status in their circle of ugly people which can land them an ugly foid gf, who's already been pumped and dumped by more attractive men.

 

[bkdreamkb]

The quality of the relation is what matters. In this sense, only 20% of the guys are getting secure relationships without the constant fear of getting dumped or, if he is a wise men, he is fucking 80% of the girls.

See, among those 40% who do "get sex", half of them are only getting sex very rarely. It's the kind of guy who fucked a drunk female in a party 5 months ago and thinks he is sexually active, or the guy who has a girlfriend who let's him fuck her after he lends his credit card. This is not a healthy relationship and I would rather stay a incel than submit myself to that.

 

[Ub2w]

The quality of the relation is what matters. In this sense, only 20% of the guys are getting secure relationships without the constant fear of getting dumped or, if he is a wise men, he is fucking 80% of the girls.

See, among those 40% who do "get sex", half of them are only getting sex very rarely. It's the kind of guy who fucked a drunk female in a party 5 months ago and thinks he is sexually active, or the guy who has a girlfriend who let's him fuck her after he lends his credit card. This is not a healthy relationship and I would rather stay a incel than submit myself to that.

Chads and chadlites get cucked everytime men, especially I'd they are dating their looksmatchs

I invite you to see the amateur category of porn websites, what do you see? Average looking guys, screwing average looking foids, maybe its true that the most common guy with not social status don't get hookups very usually, but to said they don't get laid is megacope and delusional, its only a minority of man that are not fucking various times per month, and in that minority there's another even smaller minority that don't get anything.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

First I will made clear that the pareto principle in this case especifies that 20% of men dont get the 80% of woman, but the 80% of the TOTAL sex, those that try to implied that 80% of woman are having intercourse with only 20% of men are clearly, retarded, delusional, and first and most don't know how the pareto rule works.

There's numerous studies that prove that only the 20% of man are the "clearly" the winners in hookups oriented apps like tinder and else, but when IRL situations happens and other factors that affect an male SMV other that looks, principally social status, this gap is reduced, according to my observations, to 40/60.

Now, if someone try to accuses me of bluepilled, get this in your heads, your looks are the principal factor to have success in the sexual(and mostly social) market, a 1/10, unless a billion outlier happens, will probably remain virgin for life, and in comparison a 9 will have an sexual life that only the most depraved porn can imagine, but, especially once the looks level rises to at least 4.5, other factors start to take as much importance as your appearance, such as, in order of importance: social status, neurotypicalism, level of inhibition, and personality.


An neurotypical, low inhibition, 6/10, for example, that belongs to the party world in college will have the same levels of sex or even sexually amog an 8/10 that pass all his social life in more "nerdy" elements like the geek world, this is sometimes that I have observed well, and I know half of this website are shut in autists, but how many normies you know that go to parties regularly? at least half of them, how many normies do you know that are 6/10? half of them, the numbers are simply too high to be only 20/80.


Now I will expect the sub 8 fakecels/copers to come at me at the speed of the light, but once you think about it without any emotionality, you see that it makes sense, tinder indeed is an source where many people are having a good sexual life without retrains, but is not the only source, its not even the majority of it, less that 25% of millenials are in tinder, and people are still losing their virginities in majority before their 20.

Completely agree with this. I know of 6/10s who have had sex with foids ABOVE their looksmatch. One even had sex with a 9 JFL. If you are 4/10 or below then it's over or landwhale + betabux.

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Completely wrong.

Online it's more like 5% at best in person maybe it jumps up to 8%.

@Gokugetem I'm getting my dignity back.

Only a cuck would spout this nonsense.

Nobody in the west is getting laid unless they're Chad or a high tier Chadlite.

Maybe a few old married boomers, and some betabuxcux, that's it.

It would seem your mind is polluted from boardgames or whatever it's name was.

You're deluded much like your cognitive dissonance on Asian foids being superior to western foids in all aspects.

Imagine having an complex of inferiority that blurs your rationality so much, first it was 20/80, now is 5/95, next it will be 0.001/99

My brother is high tier normie at best, and gets laid.

My cousin is a 4/10, no kidding he's jsanza level in looks, and its not a virgin because he try so hard to be part of the normies.

Its must be hard to accept that we are a minority of genetic garbage, but that's the reality

Tbh. Running social circle game is imperative though. Out of all the examples I know of guys sleeping with above their looksmatch they all had a social circle. It was never a cold approach. If they cold approached the same foids they would have been rejected.

This is legit I think.

Your looks don't matter if you're above 7/10 or below 4/10.

However for 4/10 to 7/10 (where most people are) personality and status play a part in whether you can get laid or not.

Tbh.

This. 5-6/10 men do get laid but they have to put insane effort. 8+ get laid without trying.

Not always. It's more about being in the right place at the right time. If you simply work with an attractive foid and she's drunk on a friday night she could sleep with you. Sub 4 tho and it's over.

 

[StaroRavager]

You should as online dating is quickly becoming the only acceptable way to meet people.

There’s social circle game, the workplace, schools, parties, and clubs. The very concept of online dating is what screws up the numbers. No one takes them seriously because they can get hookups IRL, so when they’re on the app or the site, they’ll just fuck around and chose the best looking person on the site or they won’t follow through on dates because to the it’s just a game. (((Society))) crams us all together and unless you actively resist that and seclude yourself you’ll be forced to go the those venues that I mentioned earlier and as long as your 5+ you’ll be fine

 

[Sodoku]

Imagine having an complex of inferiority that blurs your rationality so much, first it was 20/80, now is 5/95, next it will be 0.001/99

My brother is high tier normie at best, and gets laid.

My cousin is a 4/10, no kidding he's jsanza level in looks, and its not a virgin because he try so hard to be part of the normies.

Its must be hard to accept that we are a minority of genetic garbage, but that's the reality

Bullshit.

I'm actually starting to gain hope.

 

[Ub2w]

Bullshit.

I'm actually starting to gain hope.

Are you a 6/10?

 

[StaroRavager]

Workplace is a big no no, great way to get fired. Clubs are also becoming a no no, never mind that they're pretty much just RL tinder.

As for the workplace, I haven’t seen any instances of people getting fired for workplace romance as long as it stays out of sight for the most part. As for clubs foids go there to get drunk, dance, and get laid. I’d say if your 5+ and play your cards right you’ll score after a few attempts much more so if your 7+. Naturally one would need to keep group dynamics in mind while looking for hookups at places like clubs and bars but as I said, play your cards right and aim for an achieveable target

 

[Unzöl]

High IQ post

 

[Sodoku]

Are you a 6/10?

One day.

 

[TheRealChincel]

Like a reporter, you have to ask: Who? What? When? How? and Why?

Who among normies is getting into these relationships? We’re mostly a West-based community so whites are seen as the most attractive. Many minorities are left out of this. Let’s say it’s some ugly guys, most average guys, and nothing needs to be said about Chad.

What kind of relationship are 3-5 males getting into? From what I’ve seen and others have relayed, there seems to be a mostly LTR nature to these relationships. “Well, we’re uglier guys, ofc we won’t get STRs/ONS.” Let me finish! There’s a imbalance in these relationships where the woman is the decision maker mostly and a “warming up” period that Chad wouldn’t have to deal with.

When do these relationships occur? Sometimes in schooling as is the norm but some 3-5 men who do get involved have to wait until after college. Even if they do start dating, there can be long periods of time in-between where they’re considered “incel”.

How do they get into these relationships? Social circle and/or luck. If you’re an ugly guy such as myself, GL getting a social circle or one where human-looking foids can be met. Even if you do have ample chances to meet women, you have to attract her which is hard as a non-dimorphic male. The odds are slightly better than spamming dating apps tbh.

Why do these relationships occur? Women either want power over the man, attention, or $$$. Sure, they’re “getting laid” but how often and what are they sacrificing to do it? You have to ask yourself: Is it better to see a hooker/be celibate or be a for uncommon instances of sex?

But yeah, a large minority of guys are having the majority of sex. Screw quality or sacrifice.

 

[Cityguy523]

People, people. You are failing to understand what the 20/80 principle means. It is accurate. However it's a total percentage of all the population having sex.

It is heavily skewed by gigachads with 1000 + notch counts and guys who die virigins. And 80 % of women who mostly fuck chads and gigachads in their cock carousel phase.

It does not mean only 20 % of men are in relashionships or get laid. Use some common sense here.

 

[Vodaccenu]

Major cope

hahaha ok, so why has online dating been going on for nearly 20 years.

It's fucking Chad on demand no need to go out and find Chad dick

 

[VincentVanCope]

COPE

I can't believe how many times I have to explain this.

The 20/80 rule doesn't mean only 20 percent of guys are having sex with 80 percent of women... it means 20 percent of guys are having 80 percent of the sex.

 

[Cityguy523]

COPE

I can't believe how many times I have to explain this.

The 20/80 rule doesn't mean only 20 percent of guys are having sex with 80 percent of women... it means 20 percent of guys are having 80 percent of the sex.

Exactly what i was getting at. Nowadays, if anything it might be even more skewed. And of course it's a lot worse online then offline. I think there was a small study here somewhere where only 50 out of 300 men got laid using tinder which is 17 % and that's just getting laid, never mind the total sex.

 

[San Salvador]

First I will made clear that the pareto principle in this case especifies that 20% of men dont get the 80% of woman, but the 80% of the TOTAL sex, those that try to implied that 80% of woman are having intercourse with only 20% of men are clearly, retarded, delusional, and first and most don't know how the pareto rule works.

There's numerous studies that prove that only the 20% of man are the "clearly" the winners in hookups oriented apps like tinder and else, but when IRL situations happens and other factors that affect an male SMV other that looks, principally social status, this gap is reduced, according to my observations, to 40/60.

Now, if someone try to accuses me of bluepilled, get this in your heads, your looks are the principal factor to have success in the sexual(and mostly social) market, a 1/10, unless a billion outlier happens, will probably remain virgin for life, and in comparison a 9 will have an sexual life that only the most depraved porn can imagine, but, especially once the looks level rises to at least 4.5, other factors start to take as much importance as your appearance, such as, in order of importance: social status, neurotypicalism, level of inhibition, and personality.


An neurotypical, low inhibition, 6/10, for example, that belongs to the party world in college will have the same levels of sex or even sexually amog an 8/10 that pass all his social life in more "nerdy" elements like the geek world, this is sometimes that I have observed well, and I know half of this website are shut in autists, but how many normies you know that go to parties regularly? at least half of them, how many normies do you know that are 6/10? half of them, the numbers are simply too high to be only 20/80.


Now I will expect the sub 8 fakecels/copers to come at me at the speed of the light, but once you think about it without any emotionality, you see that it makes sense, tinder indeed is an source where many people are having a good sexual life without retrains, but is not the only source, its not even the majority of it, less that 25% of millenials are in tinder, and people are still losing their virginities in majority before their 20.

Bullshit. 4-6 will not die virgins because of their looks. 7+ will slay. Sub 4 like me will die virgins.

 

[sepelion]

we are this way because the good guys lost. We've succumb to the perverse Jewish influence Hitler tried purging and warned us for. It's not an intrinsic weakness of the white race, in fact I believe any other race is equally if not more susceptible to this sort of brainwashing. Look at how eager your present masterrace is to mix with the same people whom you consider filth, that is to say white guys. This is happening despite no real push nor propaganda campaign on part of hollywood or the mainstream to make them racemix. I will repeat, the only reason the white race is in such a sorry state that it is today is because of Jewish propaganda. If we fail to reestablish patriarchy in the west and drive out the Jewish pest plauging Europe and the rest of the white world, does that mean we deserve what's coming? The question itself is irrelevant as things happen irrespective of what we humans would call cosmic justice. We live in an unjust world, where depravity is rewarded, and kindness is shunned. Don't think for a second however that the Jews don't have plans for East asia. Given Japanese women's already eagerness to racemix, something tells me they wont last very long as soon as Jewish propaganda is in full swing but aimed at them instead of us.

Fuck me when did Incels become an amalgamation of classic /pol/ and classic /r9k/?

I love this. I love how antisemitism is really exploding, as is the intense desire for the destruction of the (((Frankfurt School's))) pickup culture monster.

 

[iblamemyself]

The numbers could be right but those normies are getting star fish sex with occasional cucking

 

[randomloli]

The 20/80 rule doesn't mean only 20 percent of guys are having sex with 80 percent of women... it means 20 percent of guys are having 80 percent of the sex.

 

[randomcel92]

Yeah but 6/10s have to fight over landwhales.

 

[Ub2w]

Yeah but 6/10s have to fight over landwhales.

Cope 6/10 with high social status slays 8-9 any time of the day.