RageFuel Swiped right on everyone on Tinder and got 0 matches

[actualbelowaverage]

I sat for an hour yesterday swiping right on every single real girl. I got 0 matches. 0. I swiped later on in the evening and still got 0. I went on OkC and did the same thing (still har to swipe right). Zero.

I'm done. I was planning to off myself by 30 if I didn't find dates. Then it was 25. Now I feel it should be today. I've put in more work than every other normie combined. I'm short, have an ugly face, an abusive father, and a mediocre IQ. I surpassed all of that to get a decent job after graduating from a college ranked top 20 in the world (no help btw because all girls avoided me and gave their homework answers to Chad so they could get the opportunity to blow him). My mom saved for 2 years to give me plastic surgery, and I paid her back with practically all of my signing bonus. And yet, after all that, I still get 0 matches.

I fucking hate my life and the universe hates me.

 

[_incelinside]

Online dating is hell. The best way you can get a women is through social circle. You should NT max

 

[tiredofthisshit]

dude tinder is for 8+ women chose only the best of the best

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

yeah its fucking over buddy boyo

 

[Gremlincel]

yeah its fucking over buddy boyo

"Saying that its over boyo
only implies
that it began."

-Confucious

 

[Deleted member 2119]

Just LDAR at this point. It's not worth it to expose yourself to suicidefuel

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

I sat for an hour yesterday swiping right on every single real girl. I got 0 matches. 0. I swiped later on in the evening and still got 0. I went on OkC and did the same thing (still har to swipe right). Zero.

I'm done. I was planning to off myself by 30 if I didn't find dates. Then it was 25. Now I feel it should be today. I've put in more work than every other normie combined. I'm short, have an ugly face, an abusive father, and a mediocre IQ. I surpassed all of that to get a decent job after graduating from a college ranked top 20 in the world (no help btw because all girls avoided me and gave their homework answers to Chad so they could get the opportunity to blow him). My mom saved for 2 years to give me plastic surgery, and I paid her back with practically all of my signing bonus. And yet, after all that, I still get 0 matches.

I fucking hate my life and the universe hates me.

What kind of surgery did you get?

Care to send me a pic of your face privately? I can give you more advice if so. I know a lot about surgery both from personal experience and theoretical study.

Also, if you got a good job and have even reasonable basic conversational skills, you should really try speed dating. I've only had one date in the past few years, but I got it from speed dating. It's the only venue where women are forced to actually talk with you and engage with you one on one, and "what do you for a living?" is one of the first things that always comes up in conversation, which lets you use your job halo. Those types of girls are usually looking for someone with some success.

Short/ugly/ethnic over here, but I'm coping.

I like VR porn on my Gear VR to help me cope.

 

[actualbelowaverage]

What kind of surgery did you get?

Care to send me a pic of your face privately? I can give you more advice if so. I know a lot about surgery both from personal experience and theoretical study.

Also, if you got a good job and have even reasonable basic conversational skills, you should really try speed dating. I've only had one date in the past few years, but I got it from speed dating. It's the only venue where women are forced to actually talk with you and engage with you one on one, and "what do you for a living?" is one of the first things that always comes up in conversation, which lets you use your job halo. Those types of girls are usually looking for someone with some success.

Short/ugly/ethnic over here, but I'm coping.

I like VR porn on my Gear VR to help me cope.

DMed

 

[theultimate341]

Just LDAR at this point. It's not worth it to expose yourself to suicidefuel

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

DMed

Wow. You're not even bad looking. Like at all. You have absolutely no deformities or obvious abnormalities. You have an incredible hairline most of us would kill for - low square, thick. Perfectly symmetrical face. Good jawline.

You are in the 5/10 range at a minimum. Ie. There is no objective problem with your face. In the lying down pic you are a 6/10 at least.

I would love to have your facial structure. Very broad face. Relatively robust. You have no obvious defects to correct. Most of surgery is to fix deformities (ie. bad jaw growth) and everything for you is in the normal range.

I think your problems stem from a couple things:

1) You are at a minimum normal and average to slightly above average looking. But you are not beautiful. Male beauty is rare and very few of us will ever possess it. Women are picky as fuck in 2018.

2) You are not white. You look like some type of middle eastern or Arabic or latino lightskinned brown. This is fine in general, but see my signature. 1/3+ ethnic guys are now celibate. So just based on race, you have a 35%+ or so chance of being incel. Women are racist as fuck in 2018.

3) You appear to be mildly chubby. Are you? If so, you need to try to trim down. What's your height also? Height/weight could be affecting you.

4) Your pic of you sitting up and looking off was not very flattering. The lying down one was, which shows you can take good pictures with the right lighting/angles. People always judge you by your worst picture, not your best.

Overall though there's nothing objectively wrong with your looks. You have a relatively nice face. I am mildly envious of your structure.

 

[actualbelowaverage]

Wow. You're not even bad looking. Like at all. You have absolutely no deformities or obvious abnormalities. You have an incredible hairline most of us would kill for - low square, thick. Perfectly symmetrical face. Good jawline.

You are in the 5/10 range at a minimum. Ie. There is no objective problem with your face. In the lying down pic you are a 6/10 at least.

I would love to have your facial structure. Very broad face. Relatively robust. You have no obvious defects to correct. Most of surgery is to fix deformities (ie. bad jaw growth) and everything for you is in the normal range.

I think your problems stem from a couple things:

1) You are at a minimum normal and average to slightly above average looking. But you are not beautiful. Male beauty is rare and very few of us will ever possess it. Women are picky as fuck in 2018.

2) You are not white. You look like some type of middle eastern or Arabic or latino lightskinned brown. This is fine in general, but see my signature. 1/3+ ethnic guys are now celibate. So just based on race, you have a 35%+ or so chance of being incel. Women are racist as fuck in 2018.

3) You appear to be mildly chubby. Are you? If so, you need to try to trim down. What's your height also? Height/weight could be affecting you.

4) Your pic of you sitting up and looking off was not very flattering. The lying down one was, which shows you can take good pictures with the right lighting/angles. People always judge you by your worst picture, not your best.

Overall though there's nothing objectively wrong with your looks. You have a relatively nice face. I am mildly envious of your structure.

Hairline means nothing. I had this hairline before surgery and I still got 0 matches, my problems definitely lie with proportional issues but nobody seems to be able to figure out what.

Is my jaw/chin decent? Is my chin to small/jaw weak/ratios off. I got that area augmented so I’m hoping it’s at least average.

Also, am I PSL average or conventionally average? Because if I’m conventionally average then I’m fucked. How far below average am I for a non-white

Also what’s unflattering about the second pic? If I’m average looking in my best picture then obviously something is bad. Do you think my lower third is average

I am overweight (at 40% bf), but want to know if bone structure wise if I’m at worst a 5/10

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Hairline means nothing. I had this hairline before surgery and I still got 0 matches, my problems definitely lie with proportional issues but nobody seems to be able to figure out what.

Is my jaw/chin decent? I got that area augmented so I’m hoping it’s at least average.

Also, am I PSL average or conventionally average? Because if I’m conventionally average then I’m fucked. How far below average am I for a non-white guy?


Also what’s unflattering about the second pic? If I’m average looking in my best picture then obviously something is bad. Do you think my lower third is average

Oh wow is that why your jawline looks so good? Fantastic work. What did you have done?

Yes the second pic is highly unflattering:

- You are hunched over.
- You are wearing bum clothes.
- You look fat (which might be from the hunching - can't tell).

I don't rate based on "conventional average" or "PSL average" as I am not some autist who sits in his room all day disconnected from the world. I deal with people for a living so I know what average people do or don't look like. 5/10 means, given a bell distribution, roughly half of people are better looking and half are worse. ie. Statistical average.

You can say "hairline doesn't matter" or "symmetry doesn't matter" or "a nice jaw doesn't matter" but the fact is those things do matter. You don't want to know how much surgery I've had already chasing those things myself. You're lucky to have been born with them and your jawline surgery obviously went very well. Those are what make you 5-6/10. You also have nice eye shape with good canthal tilt which no surgery could give me. You also have great FWHR which no surgery can provide.

Tinder experiments have relatively proven that women are subtracting roughly 3 points based on being nonwhite. A ripped 7/10 latino with pro pics for example does about as well as a skinnyfat 4/10 white guy with bedroom selfies.

Like I said, over 1/3 ethnic men are now celibate. This is probably most of your problem. Beyond this, weight and unflattering pics aren't helping. Don't hunch over. Don't wear sweatshirts and bum t shirts.

In a theoretical sense, if you want to know what prevents you from being truly beautiful, it is your jaw alignment above all else. This is why you look best lying down from front-on. It hides your profile. From the 3/4 shot, I believe it is evident you have a mildly recessed upper/lower jaw. This was cosmetically corrected for by chin/jaw implants. But in theory, a more complete correction would have been done by advancement of both the upper and lower jaw with jaw surgery. Now no jaw surgeon in his right mind would have done that. Jaw surgery is heavy stuff. But in theory, that might have provided a more ideal outcome, +/- a smaller chin implant after.

Either way, your face is quite good. Again, keep in mind even a 7/10 latino with ripped abs and pro photos struggles to get many matches on Tinder. The fact is the straight dating market is just not favorable for nonwhite men unless you are a professional model, which by definition >98% of us can't be.

I certainly wouldn't recommend any more facial surgery for you as your face is as optimized as it can be. I'd work on your weight and getting some better pictures. Then maybe try speed dating if you're still not succeeding online.

 

[actualbelowaverage]

Oh wow is that why your jawline looks so good? Fantastic work. What did you have done?

Yes the second pic is highly unflattering:

- You are hunched over.
- You are wearing bum clothes.
- You look fat (which might be from the hunching - can't tell).

I don't rate based on "conventional average" or "PSL average" as I am not some autist who sits in his room all day disconnected from the world. I deal with people for a living so I know what average people do or don't look like. 5/10 means, given a bell distribution, roughly half of people are better looking and half are worse. ie. Statistical average.

You can say "hairline doesn't matter" or "symmetry doesn't matter" or "a nice jaw doesn't matter" but the fact is those things do matter. You don't want to know how much surgery I've had already chasing those things myself. You're lucky to have been born with them and your jawline surgery obviously went very well. Those are what make you 5-6/10. You also have nice eye shape with good canthal tilt which no surgery could give me. You also have great FWHR which no surgery can provide.

Tinder experiments have relatively proven that women are subtracting roughly 3 points based on being nonwhite. A ripped 7/10 latino with pro pics for example does about as well as a skinnyfat 4/10 white guy with bedroom selfies.

Like I said, over 1/3 ethnic men are now celibate. This is probably most of your problem. Beyond this, weight and unflattering pics aren't helping. Don't hunch over. Don't wear sweatshirts and bum t shirts.

In a theoretical sense, if you want to know what prevents you from being truly beautiful, it is your jaw alignment above all else. This is why you look best lying down from front-on. It hides your profile. From the 3/4 shot, I believe it is evident you have a mildly recessed upper/lower jaw. This was cosmetically corrected for by chin/jaw implants. But in theory, a more complete correction would have been done by advancement of both the upper and lower jaw with jaw surgery. Now no jaw surgeon in his right mind would have done that. Jaw surgery is heavy stuff. But in theory, that might have provided a more ideal outcome, +/- a smaller chin implant after.

Either way, your face is quite good. But again, keep in mind even a 7/10 latino with ripped abs and pro photos struggles to get many matches on Tinder. The fact is the straight dating market is just not favorable for nonwhite men unless you are a professional model, which by definition >98% of us can't be.

I certainly wouldn't recommend any more facial surgery for you as your face is as optimized as it can be. I'd work on your weight and getting some better pictures. Then maybe try speed dating if you're still not succeeding online.

Thanks for the in depth, I’ll work on weight loss, but my maxilla is flat, is that what you mean by jaw alignment? Do you think with weight loss given my implant I can overcome my poor jaw alignment?

I doubt I have a good fwhr given the fact that I was told my Fade is short. I told the surgeon I want a long face but idk if it worked out. Do you think my face length and philtrum/chin ratio is ok?

I know you may not believe in conventional average but there is a conventional average. There is no “subjective beauty”, all women converge on what is attractive or not. If you look like Ryan Lochte women would say you’re good looking but nah not be attracted to you, that’s still better than where I am now.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Thanks for the in depth, I’ll work on weight loss, but my maxilla is flat, is that what you mean by jaw alignment? Do you think with weight loss given my implant I can overcome my poor jaw alignment?

I doubt I have a good fwhr given the fact that I was told my Fade is short. I told the surgeon I want a long face but idk if it worked out. Do you think my face length and philtrum/chin ratio is ok?

I know you may not believe in conventional average but there is a conventional average. There is no “subjective beauty”, all women converge on what is attractive or not. If you look like Ryan Lochte women would say you’re good looking but nah not be attracted to you, that’s still better than where I am now.

I believe in absolute beauty based on statistics and averages. I do not believe in "PSL beauty" or "conventional beauty" based on multiple subjective standards. As I said, I rate average as 5/10 which is the middle of a statistical bellcurve.

You do have a slightly short face which is what gives you a good FWHR. The only way to lengthen it again would be jaw surgery (ie. LF1) which would not likely be appropriate as it's heavy surgery and your face has no deformities.

Your philtrum to chin is perfect and I personally like your face length. My face length is too long so perhaps that biases me in the other direction though.

Either way, I don't think anything about your face is objectively "poor". You are at minimum average. Your failure is more related to weight, race, bad pics, and in a bigger scheme of things, women's racism and ridiculous standards in 2018. You can only control so much. So work on the weight and get some better pics.

If you still fail, well keep in mind like I said, 1/3 ethnics now do, and the circumstances are getting exponentially worse year by year. I estimate 50% celibacy for ethnics in the next 5 years at this rate.

 

[actualbelowaverage]

I believe in absolute beauty based on statistics and averages. I do not believe in "PSL beauty" or "conventional beauty" based on multiple subjective standards. As I said, I rate average as 5/10 which is the middle of a statistical bellcurve.

You do have a slightly short face which is what gives you a good FWHR. The only way to lengthen it again would be jaw surgery (ie. LF1) which would not likely be appropriate as it's heavy surgery and your face has no deformities.

Your philtrum to chin is perfect and I personally like your face length. My face length is too long so perhaps that biases me in the other direction though.

Either way, I don't think anything about your face is objectively "poor". You are at minimum average. Your failure is more related to weight, race, bad pics, and in a bigger scheme of things, women's racism and ridiculous standards in 2018. You can only control so much. So work on the weight and get some better pics.

If you still fail, well keep in mind like I said, 1/3 ethnics now do, and the circumstances are getting exponentially worse year by year. I estimate 50% celibacy for ethnics in the next 5 years at this rate.

FML dude it’s over. I thought surgery would fix my fucking short face. It’s over.

 

[Deleted member 776]

Yeah dude. Don't waste your time with Tinder. Before becoming blackpilled i wasted my time with online dating. Put in a lot of time to it and i think i got 3 matches on tinder. None of who would respond to my messages. I got another one who did but was a bot trying to sign me up to another website which was a scam. There was also a girl i messaged with on OKC and she ghosted after about a week when i suggesting meeting up. Probably because Chad wasn't paying attention to her. Don't waste your time. Its bad for your mental health.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I sat for an hour yesterday swiping right on every single real girl. I got 0 matches. 0. I swiped later on in the evening and still got 0. I went on OkC and did the same thing (still har to swipe right). Zero.

I'm done. I was planning to off myself by 30 if I didn't find dates. Then it was 25. Now I feel it should be today. I've put in more work than every other normie combined. I'm short, have an ugly face, an abusive father, and a mediocre IQ. I surpassed all of that to get a decent job after graduating from a college ranked top 20 in the world (no help btw because all girls avoided me and gave their homework answers to Chad so they could get the opportunity to blow him). My mom saved for 2 years to give me plastic surgery, and I paid her back with practically all of my signing bonus. And yet, after all that, I still get 0 matches.

I fucking hate my life and the universe hates me.

I would love to see your face too, especially if you had surgery. Of course only if you´re comfortable with it.

 

[_incelinside]

meanwhile a landwhale gets 10 matches in the first minute