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Iran in the past 2 days has done more for Palestine than any Sunni government has ever done. The same governments Iran is bombing advocated for the bombing of ISIS. Sunni governments will distort Islamic text for their own benefit. Sitting in their cuck chair they will beg Israel to help while their Muslim neighbour gets turned into a femishit cum dumpster.
 
Iran in the past 2 days has done more for Palestine than any Sunni government has ever done. The same governments Iran is bombing advocated for the bombing of ISIS. Sunni governments will distort Islamic text for their own benefit. Sitting in their cuck chair they will beg Israel to help while their Muslim neighbour gets turned into a femishit cum dumpster.
The Sunnis fought against the Jews at a time when Iran was the ally of the United States. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 6-day war, the Yom Kippur War. These were three full-fledged wars involving the use of ground forces, army movements, aviation and navy, rather than missile attacks.
 
The Sunnis fought against the Jews at a time when Iran was the ally of the United States. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the 6-day war, the Yom Kippur War. These were three full-fledged wars involving the use of ground forces, army movements, aviation and navy, rather than missile attacks.
And they became serfs so they could remain de-facto independent. It never truly began.
 
Their "supreme" leader was killed within a day.

But keep acting like Ayran is actually doing something :soy:
 
Iran in the past 2 days has done more for Palestine than any Sunni government has ever done. The same governments Iran is bombing advocated for the bombing of ISIS. Sunni governments will distort Islamic text for their own benefit. Sitting in their cuck chair they will beg Israel to help while their Muslim neighbour gets turned into a femishit cum dumpster.
Everything in this world is changing. Iran and Turkey were the least hostile nations to Israel at the time of its creation, as it was an ethnic conflict between Arabs and Jews from the very beginning, and it was only in the 1990s that it became a conflict between Islam and Judaism.
I can't blame the Sunnis, anyway. They've done everything they can. They've lost tens of thousands of their soldiers in wars, and they've been subjected to hate propaganda. They've crashed the global oil market in 1973. They've made every effort, and now the Sunni Arabs have lost all interest. Meanwhile, Iran and Turkey are trying to play the role of protectors of Palestine. It's ridiculous.
 
Iran in the past 2 days has done more for Palestine than any Sunni government has ever done. The same governments Iran is bombing advocated for the bombing of ISIS. Sunni governments will distort Islamic text for their own benefit. Sitting in their cuck chair they will beg Israel to help while their Muslim neighbour gets turned into a femishit cum dumpster.
Secondly, the Arab Sunni countries are not homogeneous, and they cannot all be judged in the same way. Egypt and Syria have done everything they could, with three wars and three defeats, tens of thousands of dead soldiers, and zero results. Jordan has always been a British proxy, and the current king, Abdullah II, is half-British. The Saudis have always been American proxies. Turkey was the first Islamic state to recognize Israel in 1949, and it is an American outpost in the Middle East, where US nuclear bombs are still based. Turkey, which has always been a unique geographical location for the projection of the army, has always received preferential treatment from the West: the West didn't care about the invasion of Cyprus, and the West didn't care about Turkey's support for radical groups as vassals.
 
Secondly, the Arab Sunni countries are not homogeneous, and they cannot all be judged in the same way. Egypt and Syria have done everything they could, with three wars and three defeats, tens of thousands of dead soldiers, and zero results. Jordan has always been a British proxy, and the current king, Abdullah II, is half-British. The Saudis have always been American proxies. Turkey was the first Islamic state to recognize Israel in 1949, and it is an American outpost in the Middle East, where US nuclear bombs are still based. Turkey, which has always been a unique geographical location for the projection of the army, has always received preferential treatment from the West: the West didn't care about the invasion of Cyprus, and the West didn't care about Turkey's support for radical groups as vassals.
True. I see I'm wrong. Syria was balkanized, Iraq has no power, Egypt is suffering, the Saudis are US proxies. The only functioning "muslim" states left in the middle east are Iran and Turkey. An actual coalition between Islamic countries would need them to all be capable. There is no Islamic country. Every one of them changes the Quran for their own benefit.

I wouldn't say it's Islam vs Jews. It was always a war between interests and it just grew its scope and involved Turkey and Iran.
 
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True. I see I'm wrong. Syria was balkanized, Iraq has no power, Egypt is suffering, the Saudis are US proxies. The only functioning muslim states left in the middle east are Iran and Turkey. An actual coalition between Islamic countries would need them to all be capable. There is no Islamic country. Every one of them changes the Quran for their own benefit.

I wouldn't say it's Islam vs Jews. It was always a war between interests and it just grew its scope and involved Turkey and Iran.
Turkey is not an enemy of Israel or the Jews. The fact that Turkey is a large military base and logistics hub for the United States gives Turkey many benefits. For 100 years, the United States has not recognized the genocide of the Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians because Turkey is the key to the Middle East and Israel's assistance. Turkey has forced the United States to pressure West Germany to accept migrants, despite the reluctance of the local authorities in West Germany. Turkey has not been punished for its invasion of Cyprus. Turkey has not been punished for sponsoring Islamic Sunni militants or being an international hub for radicals. This is because Turkey is the key to Israel's survival, as it is the only country through which the United States can provide support to Israel in the event of a war.
 
Turkey is not an enemy of Israel or the Jews. The fact that Turkey is a large military base and logistics hub for the United States gives Turkey many benefits. For 100 years, the United States has not recognized the genocide of the Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians because Turkey is the key to the Middle East and Israel's assistance. Turkey has forced the United States to pressure West Germany to accept migrants, despite the reluctance of the local authorities in West Germany. Turkey has not been punished for its invasion of Cyprus. Turkey has not been punished for sponsoring Islamic Sunni militants or being an international hub for radicals. This is because Turkey is the key to Israel's survival, as it is the only country through which the United States can provide support to Israel in the event of a war.
They have conflicting interests in Syria but yes, this will never actually become anything.
 
They have conflicting interests in Syria but yes, this will never actually become anything.
I also don't understand why Iran is involved in this shit. These crazy people in Iran's government are trying to sacrifice their country for some idea, just using their homeland as a match to start a global fire. Just like the Leninist Bolsheviks. Who even appreciates this martyrdom and self-sacrifice? No one will love the Persians, even if they bomb Israel every day. They are not Arabs and they are not Sunnis, they are strangers in this region, and they are being ruthlessly exploited and fucked over. The Turks have literally fucked over the Iranian proxy regime of Assad in Syria. NATO's radars are stationed in Turkey to monitor Iran. The Sunni Arabs despise Iran on religious grounds, as they consider them to be infidels. China is literally buying oil at discounted prices because no one else will buy it, and Iran is forced to tolerate and sell oil to China at a low cost. Russia has abandoned Iran many times, and it did not evacuate pro-Iranian militants on its planes when the Assad regime was falling. It did not give them cool weapon.
Iran is an incel in the world of countries. Sunni Arabs are ready to fight with the Jews on one side against it. China is ready to ruthlessly set conditions in the form of cheap prices for the import of Iranian oil. Russia is constantly cheating. Iran just needs to declare neutrality and stop investing in international politics, recognize Israel, lift the sanctions, trade, and get rich. All the Iranian government is doing is sacrificing its country to those who don't give a damn. The UAE and Bahrain can live well and enjoy luxury while children in gas are dying from bombs, so why can't Iran? Iran has fewer reasons to make sacrifices that no one will appreciate.
 
They have conflicting interests in Syria but yes, this will never actually become anything.
From any confrontation that begins to take shape in favor of the enemy - you need to be able to get out with the minimum possible losses. The Italians left the Axis in 1943, so they lost only Trieste, islands in the Adriatic Sea in favor of Yugoslavia, island in favor of Greece and a couple of villages in favor of France. Not such a big territorial loss. And look what happened to the Germans ? 10 million Germans were expelled from Eastern Europe. 25% of the territory was taken away in 1933: East Prussia, Silesia, Pomerania, and West Prussia.
Iran needs to do the same as Italy and get out of the conflict with minimal losses. Because no one wants to see Iranian martyrdom. Turkey recognized Israel in 1949, almost 80 years ago. Turkey has been trading weapons with Israel and civilian products. Has anyone criticized the Turks for this? No. So why should Iran do it? At the time of the Islamic Revolution, the average Iranian lived twice as well as the average Turk, and now the average Turk lives twice as well as the average Iranian. China trades a lot with Israel. China is Israel's main trading partner, not the United States. Who would complain about China? No one. China had unofficial ties with Israel until 1990, when the embassy was officially opened.
Iran should sign a peace treaty with Israel. Put the son of the former shah in charge, so that the US will lift sanctions and investments will flow into the country. So that Iran will supply oil to the West at a good price, and not to China. And so that the quality of life of Iranians will grow, and Turkey or Qatar will become the main scarecrow for Israel, while Iran will get rich and be friends with the West, so that the West will stop demonizing Iran.
 
I also don't understand why Iran is involved in this shit. These crazy people in Iran's government are trying to sacrifice their country for some idea, just using their homeland as a match to start a global fire. Just like the Leninist Bolsheviks. Who even appreciates this martyrdom and self-sacrifice? No one will love the Persians, even if they bomb Israel every day. They are not Arabs and they are not Sunnis, they are strangers in this region, and they are being ruthlessly exploited and fucked over. The Turks have literally fucked over the Iranian proxy regime of Assad in Syria. NATO's radars are stationed in Turkey to monitor Iran. The Sunni Arabs despise Iran on religious grounds, as they consider them to be infidels. China is literally buying oil at discounted prices because no one else will buy it, and Iran is forced to tolerate and sell oil to China at a low cost. Russia has abandoned Iran many times, and it did not evacuate pro-Iranian militants on its planes when the Assad regime was falling. It did not give them cool weapon.
Iran is an incel in the world of countries. Sunni Arabs are ready to fight with the Jews on one side against it. China is ready to ruthlessly set conditions in the form of cheap prices for the import of Iranian oil. Russia is constantly cheating. Iran just needs to declare neutrality and stop investing in international politics, recognize Israel, lift the sanctions, trade, and get rich. All the Iranian government is doing is sacrificing its country to those who don't give a damn. The UAE and Bahrain can live well and enjoy luxury while children in gas are dying from bombs, so why can't Iran? Iran has fewer reasons to make sacrifices that no one will appreciate.
The US has expressed many times they are against Iranian leadership. Their interests conflict those of Israel and therefore they have been sanctioned, and with the globalized dollar it has massive effect. China is building massive solar farms, they barely rely on Iranian oil.

The biggest talking points against Iran are the fact they enforce Islam and go against feminism, second comes nuclear weapons, and third comes their proxies which try to provide self determination to Shias in the middle east. Each of these problems have to be solved in order for sanctions to be lifted. The biggest loss for Iran if they accepted every US demand is that it would turn into a feminist state. Yes, it never truly began because Iran is not China, it cannot compete with the US economically.

Iran and Arabia are comparable - both have lots of natural resources. The biggest difference is that Saudi Arabia is a US proxy and therefore is a rich state by being able to trade.

I think the Iranians were hoping that the Chinese would be the next Soviet Union, a counterforce to US economics, they accepted sanctions and tried pivoting their economy to a Chinese based one.
 
The US has expressed many times they are against Iranian leadership. Their interests conflict those of Israel and therefore they have been sanctioned, and with the globalized dollar it has massive effect. China is building massive solar farms, they barely rely on Iranian oil.

The biggest talking points against Iran are the fact they enforce Islam and go against feminism, second comes nuclear weapons, and third comes their proxies which try to provide self determination to Shias in the middle east. Each of these problems have to be solved in order for sanctions to be lifted. The biggest loss for Iran if they accepted every US demand is that it would turn into a feminist state. Yes, it never truly began because Iran is not China, it cannot compete with the US economically.

Iran and Arabia are comparable - both have lots of natural resources. The biggest difference is that Saudi Arabia is a US proxy and therefore is a rich state by being able to trade.

I think the Iranians were hoping that the Chinese would be the next Soviet Union, a counterforce to US economics, they accepted sanctions and tried pivoting their economy to a Chinese based one.
The Chinese are cunning and much more cunning than the Soviet Union. They are not stupid, and they will not feed the hungry people of the Third World just for the sake of it. Aha, China builds infrastructure for the poor countries of the Third World with the help of Chinese workers and engineers, and they never forgive debts to these shitty countries. If you cannot pay for the construction of a port, China will lease it to you for the next 300 years. China is a tough businessman who knows how to manipulate the market to their advantage. China will not give anything to anyone for free, and it will not forgive anyone's debts. I support this as a normal foreign policy. The Soviet Union gave billions to various Arabs, Negroes, and Asians, while the Soviet population had to wait for hours to get milk and bread, as they needed to feed the Third World in exchange for fake friendship. Meanwhile, China was ruthlessly pursuing its own interests. The Soviet Union has long since collapsed, but the People's Republic of China is still thriving today.
You don't have to act like the Soviet Union or Iran. You have to act like China, which will put its own interests first. If China needed to become an ally of the United States and fight against the Soviet and Vietnamese communists in order to grow its economy, then that's what they did. If you need to keep Africa on a long leash, then that's what you need to do, and you can't forgive any debts. If you need to conflict with the US again, then the Chinese stupidly send chemicals to Mexico, where they cook fentanyl and send drones across the border to the US, because of which 100 thousand people die from overdose in the US every year. Who condemns China today ? There is no mass hatred of China, because the Chinese are not slaves of anyone's ideals or expectations. China does what is beneficial only to Himself and no one condemns him for it. If you want to benefit from the USSR, you get a nuclear bomb from the Soviet Union, and if you want to side with the United States to get markets and investments, they will fight against the USSR in Damansky in 1969.
And now China is filling the U.S. with fentanyl. In other words, China is beating the U.S., which it owes everything to. This is because the Chinese are ruthless and unprincipled. They are ready to stab in the back anyone who has fed them. No one in the world hates or condemns the Chinese. This is because China is strong, and a strong country can do whatever it wants without being judged. Only the weak can be judged.
 
The Chinese are cunning and much more cunning than the Soviet Union. They are not stupid, and they will not feed the hungry people of the Third World just for the sake of it. Aha, China builds infrastructure for the poor countries of the Third World with the help of Chinese workers and engineers, and they never forgive debts to these shitty countries. If you cannot pay for the construction of a port, China will lease it to you for the next 300 years. China is a tough businessman who knows how to manipulate the market to their advantage. China will not give anything to anyone for free, and it will not forgive anyone's debts. I support this as a normal foreign policy. The Soviet Union gave billions to various Arabs, Negroes, and Asians, while the Soviet population had to wait for hours to get milk and bread, as they needed to feed the Third World in exchange for fake friendship. Meanwhile, China was ruthlessly pursuing its own interests. The Soviet Union has long since collapsed, but the People's Republic of China is still thriving today.
You don't have to act like the Soviet Union or Iran. You have to act like China, which will put its own interests first. If China needed to become an ally of the United States and fight against the Soviet and Vietnamese communists in order to grow its economy, then that's what they did. If you need to keep Africa on a long leash, then that's what you need to do, and you can't forgive any debts. If you need to conflict with the US again, then the Chinese stupidly send chemicals to Mexico, where they cook fentanyl and send drones across the border to the US, because of which 100 thousand people die from overdose in the US every year. Who condemns China today ? There is no mass hatred of China, because the Chinese are not slaves of anyone's ideals or expectations. China does what is beneficial only to Himself and no one condemns him for it. If you want to benefit from the USSR, you get a nuclear bomb from the Soviet Union, and if you want to side with the United States to get markets and investments, they will fight against the USSR in Damansky in 1969.
And now China is filling the U.S. with fentanyl. In other words, China is beating the U.S., which it owes everything to. This is because the Chinese are ruthless and unprincipled. They are ready to stab in the back anyone who has fed them. No one in the world hates or condemns the Chinese. This is because China is strong, and a strong country can do whatever it wants without being judged. Only the weak can be judged.
I'm pretty sure the Chinese are involved and want the US to lose as much as possible. Iran uses Chinese sattelites, it uses Chinese weapons, Chinese computers, Chinese chips, Chinese manufactured systems. The Chinese are the only ones which provide images of whether an Iranian strike succeeded or not. They are involving themselves as much as possible without actually going too far and facing reprecussions. Iran is a serf to China. It would be best if Iran had its own abilities but there is no option like this after years of sanctions. It can only surrender.

Russia is not even doing the bare minimum. The Iranians managed to shut down Starlink over their country which allowed them to fully control internet access. Russia, a country with the second most achievements in space barely has its own communications networks and asked Iran how to access Starlink and started using it a couple days after Iran shut it down. Russia is more dangerous to its own people than Iran ever will be, even if Iran got nuked by the US. The US would remove sanctions and allow investments to flow in. If Iran was not sanctioned under its current regime, the people of Iran would live miles better than in Russia. Compared to this Russia is constantly oppressing its own population and has the nuclear detterence to not be hit.

What even is the Russian strategy? With Iran you can atleast make religious arguments.

The US has offered a total removal of sanctions if they stop the war in Ukraine. But the Russians insist on relying on a Chinese based economy while seeing Iran be torn apart from it. instead of branching out and actually gaining influence they want to experience the same fate.
 
Everything in this world is changing. Iran and Turkey were the least hostile nations to Israel at the time of its creation, as it was an ethnic conflict between Arabs and Jews from the very beginning, and it was only in the 1990s that it became a conflict between Islam and Judaism.
I can't blame the Sunnis, anyway. They've done everything they can. They've lost tens of thousands of their soldiers in wars, and they've been subjected to hate propaganda. They've crashed the global oil market in 1973. They've made every effort, and now the Sunni Arabs have lost all interest. Meanwhile, Iran and Turkey are trying to play the role of protectors of Palestine. It's ridiculous.
This time, they could actually defeat the evil if they all fought. Even on the Yom Kippur war, Egypt was hours away from Telaviv and the j00s had to blackmail USA for help.
 
There's no Sunni governments, they are all apostates. The only Sunni government in recent history was ISIS and the US did everything it could to defeat them
 

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