There was no gap. Roman civilization never discontinued.
I was referring to the intellectual and scientific progress - you can't just make an assertion without evidence. In any case, the Roman Empire fell in around 4/5th century, after that you had the Byzantine (essentially Eastern Roman Empire) but were a far cry from it's historical past. The Byzantines spent centuries in decline and backwardness, internally fraught and in the shade of Islamic empires.
As for ancient Egypt they were cucks just like Persians who were humiliated by the Greeks despite vastly outnumbering them. They couldn't even beat 300 Spartans with their entire army JFL. All these non-European civilizations were weak and matriarchal in nature. Westerners were tough semi-barbarians.
Like I'm saying again, I'm referring to the philosophical and scientific developments made during these periods. Where was the "West"? Simple it didn't even exist. I really couldn't give a fuck about comparing two different civilizations from different time zones and comparing them politicall to see who is more 'based'. JFL. Anyway, lmao at calling Ancient Egyptians cucked and matriarchal.
Christians were fighting among themselves too and crusades were never that important for Europeans. The fact remains that in the battles of the crusades, the crusaders were winning against vastly bigger Muslim armies all the time. The same goes in Spain where Muslims were humiliated by Christians Chads. Reconquista was a Chad uprising.
Killing majority Muslim civilians isn't killing vastly bigger Muslim armies. Muslims were never a majority population in Spain apart from Grenada and Sevillia wtf you talking about.
Mongols conquered a lot of Muslim land, they didn't manage to conquer any Catholic land. Mongols ended completely humiliated in Hungary and Poland and had to leave.
Defeating a small contingent of mongols who were thousands of miles from their base and considered your lands strategically insignificant isn't a 'humiliation. JFL. Obviously they conquered most Muslim lands because that's what they were geographically close to and most Muslims had the most dominant empires around them. Low IQ again.
That's because the West abandoned Christianity. It only shows that Christianity is so important and true religion. No one supports the current West here.
It doesn't show shit.
I did visit several North African countries. Music of European civilization = Gregorian chants, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, Verdi etc.
Obviously Islam has some fine art and culture where it is allowed to be creative. But it bans too many things in my opinion, it reminds me of protestants who were against art as well and wanted everyone to be minimalistic. For example Protestant countries have much worse architecture than Catholic ones because of that. To me Muslims look just like another version of Protestants. I dont' really see much difference other that they're more collectivist.
You're conflating Muslims with Wahhabis/Salafis (mainly existing in Saudi) and the Hanbali Legal school of thought (which represents less than 2% of Muslims) ignoring other legal traditions which not only allow but enable creativity and Sufis who are by far the majority. After all most Muslims today are only Muslims because of sufi proselytisers (Indonesians, Bengalis, Nigerians)
Teutonic Knight said:
Christians mog Muslims from Antioch to Antarctica in terms of looks. Also women too. Just look at Christian stacies and compare them to average Muslim women. JFL. Christians are moggers.
Even Arab Muslims admitted how better looking Europeans were, there was one Arab author who in 10th century described how badly Vikings mogged them. Also during crusades crusaders were described as moggers.
I know whites mog non-whites on average. I just said it's nothing to do with Christianity. JFL.
Paincel2 said:
I really like seeing debates between muslimcels and christiancels.
You know what? I could probably agree with this guy than disagree on a lot of issues.
The main enemies of all religious people are the secularists and materialists that dominate the modern world. The problem is, is that there are a lot of Salafi/Wahhabi Muslims and white supremacist Christians (like this guy) who just want to discredit other religions, while the modern, 'progressive' world order cucks every religion.
CrackingYs said:
Want to destroy Islamic culture?
Step 1: Give women rights
Step 2: Create Tinder for muslims
Step 3: Wait 5 years
Step 1: Done many years ago
Step 2: Already done ("Minder" and "Muzmatch")
Step 3: Too early. A lot of Islamist bros still out there. Western ideas are slowly creeping in. Muslim world will be provide much resistance than Christianity ever did. All I can hope is that there are some legit thinkers out there who can intellectually destroy and/or coopt western progress just like China (to some extent) and Japan (to a lesser extent) have done.