Hypocrisy Subcommunication of a Clean House.

[Pinpoint]

My first insecurity more than anything about looks was my house, and whether or not it was clean. I grew up around fat losers.
A clean house gives a good public image value because of how it subcommunicates your offhanded inclinations. Your personal nature.
People have an underlying notion that society is built upon people with natural inclinations towards progress. It's about being a part of the suprasapien inner characteristic. Where you have classiness encoded in your very being. The notion that society has is that people who are natural geniuses/ excellent are the only ones who can build anything because the mentally ill/ coarse are too hung up on their own incapability/ dysfunctionality; barbarians. That people in general aren't self aware or have the willpower enough to make greatness happen.
And so only those who primarily have the natural inclination to have a clean house will be the ones who are successful as they are the ones who produce civilization... and their house is a microlevel extension of that inclination.
WOmen are preservers of nature. And having a clean house shows a natural aptitude for organization and self-coordination.


That people are real and not fakers because who in the right mind would give a shit about impressions to the point of doing it in their everyday personal space?
It's a semi-fallacy because people really DO give a shit.
It's just that people who clean the house rely on the normieness of people's minds to never suspect someone to clean the house out of trying to signal value. To be pretentious.
Most people who have super clean houses are pretentious liars. And then there are some people who mess it up so that they don't look like they're doing it.

PEOPLE THINK the world is run by people with offhanded classy inclinations that have clean houses. And that messy people are coarse in nature and are barbaric, and have a cluttered mental capacity. Unfocused.
Semi fallacy also since there are geniuses out there. But the truth is irrelevant. It's about the wide public's ignorant impressions more so. Some people can have the view that people who have a dirty house correlates/ doesn't correlate with high intelligence/ refined character. Just like how people think looks do. But ultimately the wide public's human subjective capacity to generalize and correlate traits with traits that feel/ resonate the same is the majority. So if you care about being impressive/ having status then the house is very essential.



A clean house is an insecurity a ton of people had.

I was more insecure about the state of my house than my looks.

Essentially your private space is supposed to indicate your offhand inclinations. When a space is under your total control, and it's where you rest yourself at.

It's supposed to signal the classiness or coarseness of your character.

My dad, a short glasses redneck guy... he needs to have a clean house in order to show some degree of classiness in some respect to have one aspect where his ego is afloat.

He feels that without something to justify an arrogant ego, then you are unworthy to live.


Does anyone get insecure about their house/ livingspace? Maybe on the degree or not on the degree as looks, but still, is being a digusting slob an incel trait?

 

[Deleted member 12256]

My mother still cleans my room if it was up to me it would propably be a mess.

 

[Pinpoint]

My mother still cleans my room if it was up to me it would propably be a mess.

But that's because you probably think of showing classiness halo effect with your clean house is futile.
if you don't have good looks you're essentially out of the game even if you had a clean house unless you wanna betabuxx ltr.

 

[Incellectual]

My mother still cleans my room if it was up to me it would propably be a mess.

I would fucking kill someone to get someone to clean my room for me consistently. you are so lucky

 

[Deleted member 12256]

I would fucking kill someone to get someone to clean my room for me consistently. you are so lucky

Lucky to live with parents...well it has some pros i guess, but i would prefer to live alone, i would just pay a clean lady every now and then or call my mother.

 

[Modus Coperandi]

Why should I clean my apartment? No one visits me anyway.

 

[Pinpoint]

Why should I clean my apartment? No one visits me anyway.

That's the thing is that I planned it out anyway that people would visit me but I couldn't. When you're not presentable you won't get people's presence. People's presence no matter how humanitarian comes only by presentability 99% of the time.
I was only 12, 11 at the earliest when this struck me as a huge insecurity.

 

[Incellectual]

Why should I clean my apartment? No one visits me anyway.

I used to be the same way but recently I've tried being cleaner/neater and I honestly feel better because of it. I can find things really fast now where before I used to have to search for shit a lot.

 

[VisVoi]

I think there comes a point in every rotter's life where they go to take a shit or get a drink then walk back into their room and think "this isn't just the room of a lazy person, this is the room of a severely mentally ill person".

 

[Pinpoint]

People think winners have everything together from the beginning. From their inborn composition. And it's just offhanded. With their looks/ reflexes/ patterns/ habits that all come and surface automatically. This is a notion that carries on. And it's largely true... those born with this format often output a civilized structure to society. Even if there are exceptions... you don't want to be something that the general public wouldn't broadly recognize because it implies vulnerability when not everyone has a primal recognization of it. Failo effect comes from non-autorespected traits.
You won't see people cheering on einstein when he's dirty and gross. Even if he has amazing value intellectually, a chad can walk in and failo effect him.
If the chad's body structure subtranslates into people seeing him as people of high finesse/ grace/ graceful but dangerously elite reflexes/ a detail oriented mentality/ etc... just by his very BODY/ face/ etc. ... then aspiestein is irrelevant EVEN IF he is 20 times smarter.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I personally prefer a clean space. But the reality is, most people with messy houses either don't have the time/energy to clean it, or they simply don't care. It says nothing about their character or competence. It's one thing to be generally clean and organized. But being OCD levels of clean is cope and overcompensation. They once did a study that CEO's with messy desks actually got more done.

 

[Juxtaposition6]

I don't clean half of my room because filth and/or disorganization are trivial to me when they are not ruining my precious items, so paper and cables and pens and rocks and all around useless shit litters it, the other half that i clean has my bed and desk along with my boomshelf, the only reason why i clean it is because it is a spot for me to put my valuable items in, inside and on furniture, my amp and my musical instruments are neatly kept inside of a drawer, my bass is outfitted with a nice piece of fabric and my amp is inside a carboard box, my computer is on the desk, my books are on the shelves.

 

[visage]

I hire a cleaner to clean my room and vacume apartment 1x/week.

 

[The Abyss]

A lot of career ppl just hire others to clean their home plus they're out all the time if extraverted so it's hard to make a place less than spotless if it's maintained weekly & you're hardly there other than to sleep.

 

[TheIncelStaresBack]

Idk, I’ve always been a clean/organized person, even at 5. My mom told me that when I was a baby I cried if the food on my plate wasn’t separated.... so it might be my autism.

 

[Pinpoint]

I personally prefer a clean space. But the reality is, most people with messy houses either don't have the time/energy to clean it, or they simply don't care. It says nothing about their character or competence. It's one thing to be generally clean and organized. But being OCD levels of clean is cope and overcompensation. They once did a study that CEO's with messy desks actually got more done.

Contextually maybe. But there are also contexts of impressions made from having a clean house about someone being naturally orderly. Some people can figure out around it though. Ultimately though you had to make it seem offhanded and not done out of overcompensation.
My issue was that it was so indicative of my fat loser family that I was afraid I would get humiliated in front of all of them. And any resonance/ trace of them. I had to break the bubble and create something I would be proud of. Something that would set the stage for worthiness.
A house is a shared livingspace. It's beyond my control so if I swayed them to control it might help bring a foundation of esteem in my house built in 2001 to begin looksmaxxing/ self improvement skirmish. With anything that could break the bubble and be correlated to worthlessness... it would all fall apart.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

Contextually maybe. But there are also contexts of impressions made from having a clean house about someone being naturally orderly. Some people can figure out around it though. Ultimately though you had to make it seem offhanded and not done out of overcompensation.
My issue was that it was so indicative of my fat loser family that I was afraid I would get humiliated in front of all of them. And any resonance/ trace of them. I had to break the bubble and create something I would be proud of. Something that would set the stage for worthiness.
A house is a shared livingspace. It's beyond my control so if I swayed them to control it might help bring a foundation of esteem in my house built in 2001 to begin looksmaxxing/ self improvement skirmish. With anything that could break the bubble and be correlated to worthlessness... it would all fall apart.

I understand where you're coming from. I went to high school in a rich area, and my parents only had an older, modest house. My friends never wanted to hang at my house because it wasnt as nice, and it made me feel massively insecure.

 

[1984cel]

Interesting. I used to clean a lot more before realizing it was over.

 

[Pai Mei]

I think there comes a point in every rotter's life where they go to take a shit or get a drink then walk back into their room and think "this isn't just the room of a lazy person, this is the room of a severely mentally ill person".

I personally prefer a clean space. But the reality is, most people with messy houses either don't have the time/energy to clean it, or they simply don't care. It says nothing about their character or competence. It's one thing to be generally clean and organized. But being OCD levels of clean is cope and overcompensation.

 

[ShadowMonk]

For me cleaning help against depression. Seeing that effort gives reward boosts me. It is hard for me to feel low after I've done complete clean.

Even on my worst days I make sure, if nothing else, to make my bed in the morning.

 

[rabitter]

My first insecurity more than anything about looks was my house, and whether or not it was clean. I grew up around fat losers.
A clean house gives a good public image value because of how it subcommunicates your offhanded inclinations. Your personal nature.
People have an underlying notion that society is built upon people with natural inclinations towards progress. It's about being a part of the suprasapien inner characteristic. Where you have classiness encoded in your very being. The notion that society has is that people who are natural geniuses/ excellent are the only ones who can build anything because the mentally ill/ coarse are too hung up on their own incapability/ dysfunctionality; barbarians. That people in general aren't self aware or have the willpower enough to make greatness happen.
And so only those who primarily have the natural inclination to have a clean house will be the ones who are successful as they are the ones who produce civilization... and their house is a microlevel extension of that inclination.
WOmen are preservers of nature. And having a clean house shows a natural aptitude for organization and self-coordination.


That people are real and not fakers because who in the right mind would give a shit about impressions to the point of doing it in their everyday personal space?
It's a semi-fallacy because people really DO give a shit.
It's just that people who clean the house rely on the normieness of people's minds to never suspect someone to clean the house out of trying to signal value. To be pretentious.
Most people who have super clean houses are pretentious liars. And then there are some people who mess it up so that they don't look like they're doing it.

PEOPLE THINK the world is run by people with offhanded classy inclinations that have clean houses. And that messy people are coarse in nature and are barbaric, and have a cluttered mental capacity. Unfocused.
Semi fallacy also since there are geniuses out there. But the truth is irrelevant. It's about the wide public's ignorant impressions more so. Some people can have the view that people who have a dirty house correlates/ doesn't correlate with high intelligence/ refined character. Just like how people think looks do. But ultimately the wide public's human subjective capacity to generalize and correlate traits with traits that feel/ resonate the same is the majority. So if you care about being impressive/ having status then the house is very essential.



A clean house is an insecurity a ton of people had.

I was more insecure about the state of my house than my looks.

Essentially your private space is supposed to indicate your offhand inclinations. When a space is under your total control, and it's where you rest yourself at.

It's supposed to signal the classiness or coarseness of your character.

My dad, a short glasses redneck guy... he needs to have a clean house in order to show some degree of classiness in some respect to have one aspect where his ego is afloat.

He feels that without something to justify an arrogant ego, then you are unworthy to live.


Does anyone get insecure about their house/ livingspace? Maybe on the degree or not on the degree as looks, but still, is being a digusting slob an incel trait?

I don't even have a house of my own.
And while I prefer a clean space, I have no energy to actually do the cleaning. Only if I was a richcel...

 

[Pinpoint]

I understand where you're coming from. I went to high school in a rich area, and my parents only had an older, modest house. My friends never wanted to hang at my house because it wasnt as nice, and it made me feel massively insecure.

That's the thing. The size of your house, your living space, they all contribute to halo effect/ legacy/ source value of the person. The way your family looks does too. Everything.
You don't want people undervaluing your lineage even if you have good looks. A good looking person with bad family genetics. Like an amazing burger really being made of spraypainted sludge.
That's why it's best to make sure your family isn't around you and fucks you up.
Go overseas or move somewhere else and make catfish family to get laid. Then make her fall in love and had a kid with you and say they were old pictures and they aged from working hard or something.

The house isn't overcompensation. Women look far beyond looks. Looks aren't the highest umbrella of attractive traits. Distinctness is. Then it's subcollumned by looks. A woman wants the highest primal value distinction. And a clean big house shows huge finesse about your accomplishment and personal inclination ordinances to lead to such achievement.

Size of house = achievement scale.
Cleanliness of house = organized, refined nature.

 

[Zesto]

I can't wait to move into my clean, spotless apartment in Tokyo with my waifu.

 

[Pinpoint]

It's the same principle that describes a character's castle.
Darth Vader's castle is epic.
Jabba a fat lazy fuck's palace is trash.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

That's the thing. The size of your house, your living space, they all contribute to halo effect/ legacy/ source value of the person. The way your family looks does too. Everything.
You don't want people undervaluing your lineage even if you have good looks. A good looking person with bad family genetics. Like an amazing burger really being made of spraypainted sludge.
That's why it's best to make sure your family isn't around you and fucks you up.
Go overseas or move somewhere else and make catfish family to get laid. Then make her fall in love and had a kid with you and say they were old pictures and they aged from working hard or something.

The house isn't overcompensation. Women look far beyond looks. Looks aren't the highest umbrella of attractive traits. Distinctness is. Then it's subcollumned by looks. A woman wants the highest primal value distinction. And a clean big house shows huge finesse about your accomplishment and personal inclination ordinances to lead to such achievement.

Size of house = achievement scale.
Cleanliness of house = organized, refined nature.

Your absolutely right. As far as people are concerned, the appearance of wealth is more important than actually accumulating wealth. Even though my family is wealthy, our modest abode made people assume otherwise.

 

[Pinpoint]

Your absolutely right. As far as people are concerned, the appearance of wealth is more important than actually accumulating wealth. Even though my family is wealthy, our modest abode made people assume otherwise.

It's the result.
Caring about when the process is relevant is a sign of low value.
It's be rich and have the entire set of an autowinner that really matters.
Without autowinner halo effect you are irrelevant. Or seen as a lowerborn.
That success isn't an inclination for you. And there is weakness in the underlying notion of forced inclination.
Takes dark triad to have primal value. From anyone or their ancestors who hoard good genes.
Women want primarchs and evolutionarchs.
Image/ Lineage > Process.
And the right image/ lineage is in an invulnerable status. That's what it's supposed to imply. Fall and your are nothing at all.

It's not just the appearance... it's the emission and the resonant instillment of being imposing that matters.
People aren't supposed to do that deliberately though. It's supposed to be an unintentional gesture of extravagant wealth.
Women want a guy who isn't occupied with trying to be high value but just comes off that way.
He's supposed to be occupied being a batman esque ninja/ professional sportmen, war commando, goth philosophic bad ass, whatever kind of primarchical value exclusive placement that women want to use abreast to define THEIR value.