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Blackpill sub human's copernican revolution in blackpill theory

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It has been said by numerous people here that the blackpill as a system is "incomplete" and that it is "debunked every time an incel ascends" or "every time an ugly guy gets a girlfriend". I used to think that these were just outliers. But since I've been leaving my room a lot lately and travelling, I have seen too many ugly guys with gfs for me to believe this cope anymore. The goal of this thread is to try and salvage the blackpill in light of these arguments by making two amendments to it.

First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".

My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.

My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages. Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.

My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.

TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
 
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It's over for ugly mentalcels:feelsrope:
 
It has been said by numerous people here that the blackpill as a system is "incomplete" and that it is "debunked every time an incel ascends" or "every time an ugly guy gets a girlfriend". I used to think that these were just outliers. But since I've been leaving my room a lot lately and travelling, I have seen too many ugly guys with gfs for me to believe this cope anymore. The goal of this thread is to try and salvage the blackpill in light of these arguments by making two amendments to it.

First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".

My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.

My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages. Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.

My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.

TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
Yea I’ve pretty much accepted my fate. I wouldn’t say I’m a 2-3/10 I’m ugly but averagely ugly and I’m ND so honestly I’ll probably be single forever unless I somewhere, somehow obtain social skills:cryfeels:
 
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Many will beat the system and many also won't.
 
I think the same I always thought it was obvious that the blackpill is relative and not all-encompassing.
 
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It might sound like blue pill but to be honest I can ascend only if I could make money and my parents potentially will search a foid for me. But I dont have that confident that the foid they will choose will be a virgin and not have any past history. In many cases foids who got pregnant and got abortion get into this kind of marriage these days here in India or the foid will be so ugly that she never got any boyfriends.
 
Yeah most guys with autism I’ve met never had a gf
 
This is obvious and accepted, not a copernican revolution
 
This is obvious and accepted
it's not tho. people have seethed at me before for mentioning these things
not a copernican revolution
like how Copernicus shifted the center of the universe from the earth to the sun, i am proposing we shift the center of the incelosphere from focusing on looks to autism
 
Autism and schizophrenia both cut a man's chances in dating, as well as most other aspects of life, by a significantly larger amount than any other trait has been recorded to do. I do believe it is a more important feature of consideration than even looks and height when it comes to ascension.
 
Also Just Be Her Type: Face ratings ultimately mean nothing, women rate mens faces differently to men, so you see a lot of normie looking NT cutecels with gfs and getting IOIs.

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@Transcended Trucel
 
Holy shit it's almost like you read my mind and put my thoughts into words. Most based post on the board in ages.
 
It has been said by numerous people here that the blackpill as a system is "incomplete" and that it is "debunked every time an incel ascends" or "every time an ugly guy gets a girlfriend". I used to think that these were just outliers. But since I've been leaving my room a lot lately and travelling, I have seen too many ugly guys with gfs for me to believe this cope anymore. The goal of this thread is to try and salvage the blackpill in light of these arguments by making two amendments to it.

First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".

My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.

My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages. Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.

My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.

TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
refusing arranged marriage is not volcel. It is avoiding betabuxxing, forced slavery and avoiding spending tens of thousands to get starfish sex once a year.
 
First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".
tbh the best definition of the blackpill is "low value men are low value and can't get foids because of factors out of their control". this is the best definition and likely the most accurate one for incels, as it includes every uncontrollable factor that can hinder your chances: looks, height, autism, face, race, all fall into this category and i think we all know that all of these are factors that doom you to inceldom
 
Autists are the brains of society. We have just as much a blockage to simping as normies have not so simp. Its innately genetic. Like blinking or breathing. Nature wants us to LDAR & provide chad with our ideas. Gimme 3 kids and sure. Then i´ll have a stake in society. Otherwise, fuck off. Im not gonna be some court jew/shaman and even sell my ideas in the open market. FUCK ALL LAND OWNER CHADS. Dukes, counts, monarchy, untitled but still land owners etc. GIMME MY FUCKING WIFE. Wheres MY arranged marriage? And yet theyve nagged me to go to work for the past 10 years. Up yours rulers.
 
Good thread, very valid points. Having autism ruined my social life and my chances on dating
 
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mentioning nt pill= bluepilled


average escortcel :feelsjuice:
 
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
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>tfw I used to cope that autism ain't so bad
A social disability is just cruel :cryfeels:
 
tbh the best definition of the blackpill is "low value men are low value and can't get foids because of factors out of their control". this is the best definition and likely the most accurate one for incels, as it includes every uncontrollable factor that can hinder your chances: looks, height, autism, face, race, all fall into this category and i think we all know that all of these are factors that doom you to inceldom
High IQ response to high IQ post. :bigbrain:
 
It has been said by numerous people here that the blackpill as a system is "incomplete" and that it is "debunked every time an incel ascends" or "every time an ugly guy gets a girlfriend".
There are reasons for this, and they are not the generally accepted one on here.
I used to think that these were just outliers. But since I've been leaving my room a lot lately and travelling, I have seen too many ugly guys with gfs for me to believe this cope anymore. The goal of this thread is to try and salvage the blackpill in light of these arguments by making two amendments to it.
I've seen it my whole life.
First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all".
It's still generally correct, and the "systemic solutions" required involve many of things myself or K9otaku have been citing to, we believe.
Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".
The "only looks matter" is a small but persistent piece of Inceldom, but not the only piece, perhaps not even the biggest piece.
My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.
Yes, this is almost 100% spot on:feelsokman:
My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages.
Mostly correct.
Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.
The ones who do this, do it early on, and because of cultural mixing and decay it's complicated, eventually they end up Incel. Honestly, you as a Westerner would also probably resist it if the looksmatch is grossly unattractive and/or the cultural gap is too wide. The ones who are resisting pretty foids arranged marriages are not Incels per say. They are just following the Western model set by white high tier normie and Chad to "have fun" till they can't anymore then they get married and settle.
My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.
This is your combined trauma speaking and it's total garbage. You're wrong. And your not really a "NNT" as you want to define it. A combination of cultural decay, being ugly, and loss of religion and culture consistency has led us all to loath social interactions. Some can force themselves to do it for survival others cannot. It doesn't mean something is wrong or unique with your brain chemestry. If things worked in culture like they used to, you wouldn't need to even have "friends" in the same way or be social in the way people do today. It just that socializing has become a sick ugly ridiculous thing and so "autistic" tendencies are a reaction to that. I believe this.
TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
Ascending is for morons, Chad and the wealthy. Just because you are none of those, you are not autistic.
 

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