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It has been said by numerous people here that the blackpill as a system is "incomplete" and that it is "debunked every time an incel ascends" or "every time an ugly guy gets a girlfriend". I used to think that these were just outliers. But since I've been leaving my room a lot lately and travelling, I have seen too many ugly guys with gfs for me to believe this cope anymore. The goal of this thread is to try and salvage the blackpill in light of these arguments by making two amendments to it.
First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".
My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.
My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages. Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.
My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.
TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
First, I will define the blackpill so we are all on the same page. The wiki says that it is "a philosophy that men's dating problems require systemic rather than personal solutions, if a solution exists at all". Ultimately my amendments will stay true to this definition. But when I refer to the blackpill from here on, I will be referring to the colloquial use of it that "only looks matter".
My first amendment is that the value of pussy and men's looks differs based on the sexual market you are in. It is overly simplistic and reductionist to think that you would have the same chances of ascending everywhere. Some factors that would make it easier to ascend in a country are: legality (or decriminalization) of prostitution, hotter foids on average (or uglier males), preservation of traditional relationships and expressions of sexuality, and lower income levels. All of these things either make pussy cheaper, devalue men's looks, or make relationships easier to get into, all increasing the chance of ascension.
My country, USA, is probably the most brutal country to be an incel in. We have nothing going for us here. Europe is easier. In some places in Latin America and Asia, it is stupidly easy to ascend. Finally, the easiest countries to ascend in are ones with arranged marriages. Still I have not gotten an answer from moderation staff on why we don't consider incels who refuse arranged marriages as volcel. Some have literally admitted they are resisting attempts from their family to arrange ascension for them JFL.
My second amendment is that being NT matters just as much as looks and someone who is a 3 or 4 out of 10 but is NT will ascend. This would explain why so very many below average men are ascending in absence of money and status. Truecel territory is when you are both ugly and non NT, like me. If you are incel just because of your looks, or your height, but don't have autism, you're probably gonna ascend. In fact, most incels end up ascending. If you go back to some of the old threads, look how many people have deleted their accounts or been banned. Plus, most of the site is super young, and tbh very few people I have seen are actually genuine 2s or 1s out of 10. I have been reinterpreting this forum as a place for highly social, highly NT young men to vent their frustrations on about how stacy doesnt like them or that they cant be having sex every waking moment before they ascend and forget about this place. Meanwhile, the autismcels will be here forever. But the point is, that NT fakecels ascending says nothing about the plight of autismcels. It's over for us.
TLDR:
ascension can be way easier in a different sexual market
NTcels will ascend, autismcels are truecel and will be here forever.
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