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Spain's fagging for Palestine is most hypocritical geopolitical stance of all time

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In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

The Basques are in fact the oldest people in Europe, predating all Indo-European cultures (I can't remember if the Sámi are older, but that's irrelevant). I have done lots of research into Basque culture, history, and language and it is difficult to conclude anything else than that they deserve their own state. Now imagine the irony of Basque nationalists aligning themselves with Palestine, only to be fucked over by Spain doing the same thing in order to appear as a virtuous force.

Sorry for the ramble but Iberian separatism has fascinated me for years, and it is interesting to connect to the more recent I/P conflict iteration.

@Tšuudi @cathuluelitist (can't think of anyone else… tag any Spaincels you know)
 
@Aventador (maybe)
 
Appreciate the tag!

Ah yes spain the moral authority:

- The same people who ruthlessly tortured other people who didn't obey the inquisition.

- Same spain who literally colonised america and plundered it's gold from the natives.

Is now lecturing Israel about morals, and how to deal with indigounes populations. :feelsseriously:

But lets be real for a second. No such thing as moralfagging in real politics.

If you are weak, you get crushed by stronger opponets. The world and it's politcs is the rule of the jungle, everything else is bullshit.

Morals unfortunately are not what decides government actions. Neither in spain nor israel do the voters actually make a difference.

So yeah, politics is a common cope for incels. Because we don't want to aknowledge that we are powerless.

Thanks for coming to my incel talk.
 
So yeah, politics is a common cope for incels.
Make no mistake, I don't believe voters have power or any of that bluepilled shit. I've always been interested in geopolitics and thinking about the broader world dynamics is a helpful distraction for me. But yeah in the end a lot of it is cope.
 
In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

The Basques are in fact the oldest people in Europe, predating all Indo-European cultures (I can't remember if the Sámi are older, but that's irrelevant). I have done lots of research into Basque culture, history, and language and it is difficult to conclude anything else than that they deserve their own state. Now imagine the irony of Basque nationalists aligning themselves with Palestine, only to be fucked over by Spain doing the same thing in order to appear as a virtuous force.

Sorry for the ramble but Iberian separatism has fascinated me for years, and it is interesting to connect to the more recent I/P conflict iteration.

@Tšuudi @cathuluelitist (can't think of anyone else… tag any Spaincels you know)
Those woke retards are actually controlled and financed by jews, they just have to pretend support Palestine because as lefties they need to appear being in favour of the damaged and poor people.
 
In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name O9A of tolerance and inclusion.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

The Basques are in fact the oldest people in Europe, predating all Indo-European cultures (I can't remember if the Sámi are older, but that's irrelevant). I have done lots of research into Basque culture, history, and language and it is difficult to conclude anything else than that they deserve their own state. Now imagine the irony of Basque nationalists aligning themselves with Palestine, only to be fucked over by Spain doing the same thing in order to appear as a virtuous force.

Sorry for the ramble but Iberian separatism has fascinated me for years, and it is interesting to connect to the more recent I/P conflict iteration.

@Tšuudi @cathuluelitist (can't think of anyone else… tag any Spaincels you know)
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This meme describes completely Spanish left and Israel-Palestine conflict, troons for Palestine: chicken for KFC .
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@retributor
 
Appreciate the tag!

Ah yes spain the moral authority:

- The same people who ruthlessly tortured other people who didn't obey the inquisition.

- Same spain who literally colonised america and plundered it's gold from the natives.

Is now lecturing Israel about morals, and how to deal with indigounes populations. :feelsseriously:

But lets be real for a second. No such thing as moralfagging in real politics.

If you are weak, you get crushed by stronger opponets. The world and it's politcs is the rule of the jungle, everything else is bullshit.

Morals unfortunately are not what decides government actions. Neither in spain nor israel do the voters actually make a difference.

So yeah, politics is a common cope for incels. Because we don't want to aknowledge that we are powerless.

Thanks for coming to my incel talk.
The inquisition was based cause it supported my politics ahh the jews are lame cause they dont.
 
Interesting, I did not know that about Spain.

Even though Spain is another European country I barely hear about it except when old people are talking about their yearly vacations.
 
Ireland are the top European supporters.
They are hypocritical in a way too. They watched on for decades as their own Catholics in Northern Ireland were treated as 2nd class citizens yet now they kicked up more of a fuss about a land thousands of miles away.
 
Interesting, I did not know that about Spain.

Even though Spain is another European country I barely hear about it except when old people are talking about their yearly vacations.
Strange country as Europeans go. Stayed neutral in WW2 only because they were too busy fighting themselves :feelskek:
 
Ireland are the top European supporters.
They are hypocritical in a way too. They watched on for decades as their own Catholics in Northern Ireland were treated as 2nd class citizens yet now they kicked up more of a fuss about a land thousands of miles away.
True I forgot about them for some reason
 
In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

The Basques are in fact the oldest people in Europe, predating all Indo-European cultures (I can't remember if the Sámi are older, but that's irrelevant). I have done lots of research into Basque culture, history, and language and it is difficult to conclude anything else than that they deserve their own state. Now imagine the irony of Basque nationalists aligning themselves with Palestine, only to be fucked over by Spain doing the same thing in order to appear as a virtuous force.

Sorry for the ramble but Iberian separatism has fascinated me for years, and it is interesting to connect to the more recent I/P conflict iteration.

@Tšuudi @cathuluelitist (can't think of anyone else… tag any Spaincels you know)
Browns supporting Browns. Spain is basically doing an inverted Reconquista now.
 
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Wrong take. There is nothing fanatical about not supporting apartheid or genocide. That should be the common sense. Countries should be more like Spain. That's not what hypocrisy done by state is.

All countries have committed atrocities. Saying they shouldn't support Palestine because of the fight against separatist movements is retarded. All countries would fight separatist movements.

Spain is a catholic country. For them to support the occupiers of Palestine would have been heresy.
 
Browns supporting Browns. Spain is basically doing an inverted Reconquista now.
Didn't they approve something like 500k more migrants from muslim countries recently? Never began for Reconquistacels.
 
Saying they shouldn't support Palestine because of the fight against separatist movements is retarded.
Well calling it "retarded" doesn't make it untrue. "I donate to orphanages every month and beat my children at home every day!" The morality of such a person's support does not negate its hypocrisy.

For them to support the occupiers of Palestine would have been heresy.
Islam is less heretical than Judaism?

Tbh you sound like some über-leftist that gets their stances from BreadTube.
 
good to know, honestly this is the first i heard of Spain in awhile, I can't recall when was the last time i heard them on the news its always britcucks and macaron
 
Those woke retards are actually controlled and financed by jews, they just have to pretend support Palestine because as lefties they need to appear being in favour of the damaged and poor people.
Evil subversive nature of Kikes and Leftist
 
Why we have so many Kikes, Zionist, JIDF here
 
Imagine being a palestine supporter and be replaced by mudslimes in ur own country jfl
 
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spain has become a third world country, they have daily power outages like south africa
 
Well calling it "retarded" doesn't make it untrue. "I donate to orphanages every month and beat my children at home every day!" The morality of such a person's support does not negate its hypocrisy.
ok, it's retarded and untrue. Your analogy is awful, not to mention wrong. Iberian separatism is completely different than the Palestine freedom movement, it's not hypocrisy to be against the first and support the last because that little hateful nation has been formed on principals of colonialism, land grab and genocide.

Islam is less heretical than Judaism?
This makes no sense. Heresy is about contradicting your own religion.
 
Iberian separatism is completely different than the Palestine freedom movement
Then why, as I stated in the post, have Basque nationalists historically found alignment with said movement? You're still just baselessly asserting I'm wrong because it hurts your pet worldview for some reason.

Also I took the liberty to skim past posts and this is just literal commieslop straight off a Hasan Piker stream :feelshaha: The stereotype of incels as hardcore right-wingers needs to be discarded… you'd get on just fine on reddit.
USA, seconded by the British Empire. The reason is their imperialism and external politics. Israel wouldn't exist if any one of these 2 didn't also.
Western terror attacks are done by military actions under false claims. Their goal is to further the interest of corporations and zionism.

Muslim terror attacks are done by civilians in resistance groups. They want to react against the aggressions of USA/Europe imperialism.

Enough time wasted here already.
 
I'm white and pro-Palestine, slightly center-right.
 
I'm white and pro-Palestine, slightly center-right.
And I imagine you have reasonable causes for being so, unlike the other guy. At the end of the day I don't care about Israel half as much as about opposing this medusa of third-worldist islamo-marxist madness that is somehow also radically feminist.
 
Sure it's mostly posturing and nothing else but I don't see Spaniards perpetrating a genocide with wanton murder of Basque children, for one.
medusa of third-worldist islamo-marxist madness that is somehow also radically feminist
Your brain has been fried by Zio-manufactured MKultra-esque /pol/tardism, I hope you recover lest you end up dismembered by an IED or dead for Israel thinking you're fighting this imaginary monster that is only real on the mind of the most servile goyim.
 
Sure it's mostly posturing and nothing else but I don't see Spaniards perpetrating a genocide with wanton murder of Basque children, for one.
Castilian–Basque relations have been far from ideal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Guernica

Your brain has been fried by Zio-manufactured MKultra-esque /pol/tardism, I hope you recover lest you end up dismembered by an IED or dead for Israel thinking you're fighting this imaginary monster that is only real on the mind of the most servile goyim.
Not really, I've never even gone on 4chan politics board. I saw first-hand the protests at my college of the exact fusional character I described. However, I tend to get carried away with things and I feel the imperialism arc has grown too extreme. I will probably change my custom title soon and stop sowing discord. The Iran attacks were emboldening since I had been praying on the regime's downfall for quite a while, but I'm not sure what we ultimately accomplished there.
 
In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

It's not supporting the Palestinian cause per se. It's more like not supporting being lied to our faces by anglo-zionists about their reasons to massacre mostly innocent civilians, reasons mostly based on a manufactured casus belli, the actual reasons being just getting a nice strip of beach for themselves. Manufacturing casus belli is something that the anglos have done all the time (remember the Maine).

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

Those people that were colonized on 711 were not spaniards in the modern sense, they were a mixture of goths and roman-iberian people. The real spaniards are a mixture of those guys and those same arabs that colonized them, and the historical reasons to hate those arabs were fabricated afterwards as ideological justifications for several christian-islamic conflicts during the following centuries, conflicts that were mostly power grabs as all conflicts are.

I don't like muslims (any muslim, not only the arab ones) for the same reason I don't like christians, because all religious people are mentally retarded.

Also, since you are going so back in time to support your reasoning, it could be argued that Spain has always hated the jews, since we were the first to expel them from our country, and if we accepted that kind of simplistic historical reasoning, that would be a much more solid reason for Spain to oppose Israel's current shenanigans, more solid than liking muslims.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

All those movements work towards the territorial disintegration of the country, they want to become their own countries, that's why they're seen by some people as a more immediate threat. Castilians have never invaded Catalonia or the Basque country in the same way that zionists invaded Palestine in the 1940s helped by the British.

Appreciate the tag!

Ah yes spain the moral authority:

- The same people who ruthlessly tortured other people who didn't obey the inquisition.

The extent of those tortures has been persistently magnified by the anglos during those centuries when Spain was the common enemy.

- Same spain who literally colonised america and plundered it's gold from the natives.

Apparently we didn't do as good a murdering job as the anglos, since native pre-columbian people and heritage still exist on a far greater scale than native north-american people and heritage (not even talking about the different way Spain treated its black slaves). Protestants were always very good at fabricating excuses to murder everyone, they're still doing it.

Is now lecturing Israel about morals, and how to deal with indigounes populations. :feelsseriously:

1500 Spain arguably wouldn't be in a position to lecture 2020s Israel, but 2020s Spain certainly is.
 
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Then why, as I stated in the post, have Basque nationalists historically found alignment with said movement? You're still just baselessly asserting I'm wrong because it hurts your pet worldview for some reason.
It's common sense to support Palestine freedom. It's the normal response if you're not brainwashed or getting something from what j00s do there.

Also I took the liberty to skim past posts and this is just literal commieslop straight off a Hasan Piker stream :feelshaha: The stereotype of incels as hardcore right-wingers needs to be discarded… you'd get on just fine on reddit.
This stereotype was never true to begin with. There are many here who simpatise with socialism and support governments like China's. Incels overwhelmingly agree that j00s are the main source of problems for the world though.
 
Whether the entire Iberian entity unites or each historical Iberian region gets its own state
 
Whether the entire Iberian entity unites or each historical Iberian region gets its own state
Secessionists are mentally ill/schizophrenic tbh
 
Aren't there a ton of muzzies living in spain tho?
 
Aren't there a ton of muzzies living in spain tho?
Yes and maybe the current far-left leadership is merely trying to cater to that voting bloc. The new approval of 500k more MENA migrants (that would vote the same way) also makes sense in this light.
 
In the last 2.5 years, Spain has emerged as probably the strongest non-Muslim supporter of the Palestinian cause globally. This has included such actions as recognizing a Palestinian state, and just now permanently withdrawing their ambassador to Israel. But we need to understand exactly how insanely hypocritical this is—it's not a simple case of European moralfagging as with Norway for example.

For one thing, Spain's fanatical support of a primarily Muslim cause is strange from the outset, when we consider how they were in fact colonized by Arab Muslims in the Al-Andalus period (ended by the Reconquista). But then again a lot of European countries are forgetting their own history in the name of tolerance and inclusion.

What really makes it ridiculous is that Spain itself contains multiple minority liberation movements that were/are actively suppressed. "Spain" as a country is really nothing more than Castilian hegemony over an array of subcultures, including Catalan, Galician, and the highly divergent (non-IE) Basque. Stylizing themselves as guardians of humanity or whatever sanctimonious virtue label makes no sense when the Castilian Spaniard-dominated core has repeatedly crushed and silenced legitimate efforts of minorities with distinct culture and language to achieve self-determination. Moreover even though I typically am opposed to leftist movements, Spain is a case where I make an exception, particularly in the case of Basques.

The Basques are in fact the oldest people in Europe, predating all Indo-European cultures (I can't remember if the Sámi are older, but that's irrelevant). I have done lots of research into Basque culture, history, and language and it is difficult to conclude anything else than that they deserve their own state. Now imagine the irony of Basque nationalists aligning themselves with Palestine, only to be fucked over by Spain doing the same thing in order to appear as a virtuous force.

Sorry for the ramble but Iberian separatism has fascinated me for years, and it is interesting to connect to the more recent I/P conflict iteration.

@Tšuudi @cathuluelitist (can't think of anyone else… tag any Spaincels you know)
Wow, a leftist government is doing something against European culture and history? Shocking!

You have to realize, the modern global banker puppet countries are not the same as the historical countries
 

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