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The manosphere claims its worldview is grounded in science, specifically the discipline of evolutionary psychology. That’s my discipline — I am an evolutionary psychologist and associate professor at UC Santa Barbara, the home of evolutionary psychology. In fact, it turns out incels have coopted some of my research to justify their ideology...

For example, incels maintain a wiki page of scientific citations they claim support their worldview — an annotated bibliography of misogyny. In one case, in a sort of Russian nesting doll of misrepresentation, the incel wiki quotes a paper citing a study of mine as demonstrating that women prefer dominant men — which they further twist into the incel notion that women actually prefer violent men as romantic partners.

Reading this entry, I thought, “That’s odd, I don’t remember ever publishing on dominance preferences — do the incels know my work better than I do?” No. I double-checked: That study didn’t even mention dominance preferences.

Curiously overlooked in this whole wiki section on women’s preferences is the fact that kindness is repeatedly found to be among the most desired qualities in large-scale, cross-cultural studies of mate preferences.

This is just one example. Peering into the manosphere has been like walking through a funhouse mirror version of my science. The manosphere view of evolutionary psychology is distorted, filtered, selective, and embellished…

At the end of the day, incels attempt to draw from evolutionary theory a power it does not have. Evolution is not destiny. It is a powerful tool for explaining how we came to be who we are today, but it cannot tell us who we should be today or who we can be tomorrow. In fact, we can leverage an understanding of our evolved psychology to create the world we want to live in. The manosphere interprets my science to mean that love is impossible — but a major focus of my lab is helping people form happy, enduring relationships...

If I could teach the young men flicking through passport bro videos anything about evolutionary psychology, it would be that believing evolution is important for explaining human behavior need not commit you to a regressive worldview. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling ideology, not science.

:soy::soy::soy:
 
Can't take it back now
 
Foids prefer kindness, that is why they constantly say being nice is bad
 
Cringe loser scientist thinking humans are above evo psyche.
 
World is ruled by petty egos.
 
Can anybody find the specific paper he's talking about? I'm too lazy but I do wanna see what he wrote. Bitches do prefer dominance.
 
Can anybody find the specific paper he's talking about? I'm too lazy but I do wanna see what he wrote. Bitches do prefer dominance.
 
thanks will give some of the studies a read later
 
He's not bad at shifting the goalposts when it suits him, any researcher should be honored when their work is cited
 
You don't studies to know bitches will settle with abusive partners when you have crime statistics, specifically domestic abuse ones.
 
At this rate, they'll force the authors of studies confirming the obvious fact shorter and uglier looking people have it harder in life than more attractive people to recant their findings, because it aligns with 'incel ideology' when it's just observing basic reality.
 
Crazy that scientists think humans are above nature. As if we're magical demigods or something

Also "soyentist" is my new favorite word :feelshaha:
 
“Evolution is not destiny”

Lol. Your genes are absolutely your destiny. Psychologists are quacks. Just people too stupid to become Psychiatrists.
 
Cringe loser scientist thinking humans are above evo psyche.
Maybe you all will realize one day the whole shitshow that is “modern soyience” is just about protecting modernist faggot worldview and not about investigating reality or truth.
 
Crazy that scientists think humans are above nature. As if we're magical demigods or something

Also "soyentist" is my new favorite word :feelshaha:
Darwinism is bs and it was only used as a way to de-spiritualize humans. That’s why they forget about it when it goes against the libshit narrative
 
Maybe you all will realize one day the whole shitshow that is “modern soyience” is just about protecting modernist faggot worldview and not about investigating reality or truth.
 
Darwinism is bs and it was only used as a way to de-spiritualize humans. That’s why they forget about it when it goes against the libshit narrative
Darwinism isn't modern it's just common sense.
 
Science now starts with a view to give credibility for, and works it's way backwards to try prove it
 
Darwinism is bs and it was only used as a way to de-spiritualize humans. That’s why they forget about it when it goes against the libshit narrative
I agree. The promotion of evolution through natural selection has always been ideological. Its most fervent promoters are often its most fervent deniers. The author of the article above is a perfect example, he’s pretty much debunking his original research.

The mainstream will soon abandon natural selection and evopsych as they are becoming popular amongst right-wing men to describe women
 
I agree. The promotion of evolution through natural selection has always been ideological. Its most fervent promoters are often its most fervent deniers. The author of the article above is a perfect example, he’s pretty much debunking his original research.

The mainstream will soon abandon natural selection and evopsych as they are becoming popular amongst right-wing men to describe women
Exactly. It always felt so weird that “science!!111” with its obsession with rationality never ever questioned the blatant stupidity and bs and inversion of reality of feminism. It turned out slowly and slowly that they never even cared about objective reality, they only wanted to enstablish a foundation for liberalism.

You can easily predict ANYTHING that doesn’t lead to spiritual materialism and political liberalism will be labeled as “pseudoscience” by soyentists NO MATTER the amount of evidence you can pile up to show them the truth.
 
Darwinism isn't modern it's just common sense.
Darwinism is bs. You can not create new species just through natural selection. And yes the idea of actual speciation out of mere natural selection is a modernist idea based mainly on ideology and need to naturalize malthusianism in 19th century england
 
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The promotion of evolution through natural selection has always been ideological
Spot on. If one cares to read and get enough infos he will be amazed to see how many things we deem to be basic and unrefutable scientific facts were crafted, shared and imposed gradually out of pure ideology
 
Science now starts with a view to give credibility for, and works it's way backwards to try prove it
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His opinion doesn't matter. The opinions of those who conduct studies is less important than the results themselves. He's too egotistical.


Crazy that scientists think humans are above nature. As if we're magical demigods or something

Also "soyentist" is my new favorite word :feelshaha:
They're progressives so they have to blindly believe that to sustain their ridiculous world view. It's ironic that it's no different from a religious zealout.
 
Kindness is only valued after a man meets a minimum threshold of physical attractiveness. “Kindness” is not an entry ticket… it’s a bonus trait once that threshold is crossed. Countless men have tried to lead with kindness and been rejected. While studies may ask, “What do you want in a partner?” in an abstract sense, actual mating behavior—such as swipe data and partner selection—shows that physical appearance is a much stronger predictor of success.
 
too funny jfl
 
“Women like kindness incel. It’s true. I just ran a survey and asked them if they preferred kindness or aggression. Women would never lie about that. Trust the science” :soy:
 
1."the incel wiki quotes a paper citing a study of mine as demonstrating that women prefer dominant men — which they further twist into the incel notion that women actually prefer violent men as romantic partners."

Daniel you're are implying that the incel wiki is only using your source to make the case that women prefer violent men, this notion is completely false, the wiki uses other sources to make that claim. You as a source is only in a small "quotes" section "Cross-culturally, women prefer men who are dominant as partners" that's your source's contribution to the wiki you are lying through omission.

2. “That’s odd, I don’t remember ever publishing on dominance preferences — do the incels know my work better than I do?” No. I double-checked: That study didn’t even mention dominance preferences.

Unforunately because your paper is behind a paywall I am unable to verify whether or not your quote was never said, But what is odd to me is that you never talk about what you were quoted on. Wouldn't you want to i don't know show your readers how your quote was misquoted?

3. "Curiously overlooked in this whole wiki section on women’s preferences is the fact that kindness is repeatedly found to be among the most desired qualities in large-scale, cross-cultural studies of mate preferences."

Again unfortunately your paper is paywalled so I cannot verify what methods you used to obtain women's preferences but if it's just asking them about what they want that is easily debunkable as people not just women are prone to lying about this.

4."So I’m sticking my neck out. And I’d encourage my level-headed colleagues to do the same. The manosphere and our peers who cater to it don’t represent our field"

This is not how science works, you don't just get to label someone else's study as bunk because you believe it has bad intentions. You must evaluate all the data to come to a conclusion even from sources you don't like. You don't just get to hand wave that stuff away because it doesn't fit your worldview you must analyze all the data. If you believe we are wrong about the world, then use your efforts to disprove it.
 
Average soyintists. Just a reminder these retards are PAID. It’s so funny they claim to believe in evolution until it doesnt fit their narrative anymore. How could a species evolve fast enough to no longer desire superior bone structure when the modern world is no more than 700 years old?
 
Funny this is a professor at the same place ER was a student at.
 
Dumb fag probably thinks the earth is round too!
 

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