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Serious Someone should create an official incel timeline.

ColdLightOfDay

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I want to know more about the history of inceldom as an internet phenomenon. It can only benefit the community to continue to categorise and document itself. A lot of you are very tech savy, there should be a concerted effort between high IQ members to create timelines and demographic graphs that better represent this community and it’s evolution from PUAhate to the modern day, with specific events such as The Isla Vista attack and it’s proceeding fallout and affect on the incel community highlighted. It would be interesting to see something like this on a specific area of the site, maybe along with the Blackwell archive.
 
Somebody actually did an attempt at something similar some time ago. Have no idea what the thread was called though. Maybe you could dig it up?
 
Somebody actually did an attempt at something similar some time ago. Have no idea what the thread was called though. Maybe you could dig it up?
I would like to see it, can you remember the month the thread was the thread made, or thereabouts?
 
All I know is that it all started on /misc/.
 
All I know is that it all started on /misc/.
Really? Was incel used as an insult before it became a word that people identified themselves with? Or was it the other way around ?
 
Like an Incel Bayeux Tapestry.
 
I could only create timeline from r/incels 1 month before it got shutdown 'till now :/ So I could probably contribute to that, if somebody is interested and has been on incels longer than me you could write down earlier history than me and I would do mine.
 
Good one.
So this is false? What is your understanding of the genesis of inceldom as an established community? I know the word was first used by some woman in the 90s, though that has little to do with our modern understanding of the word.
I could only create timeline from r/incels 1 month before it got shutdown 'till now :/ So I could probably contribute to that, if somebody is interested and has been on incels longer than me you could write down earlier history than me and I would do mine.
Please do, I’d be very interested in seeing it. The more detail the better!
 
So this is false? What is your understanding of the genesis of inceldom as an established community? I know the word was first used by some woman in the 90s, though that has little to do with our modern understanding of the word.

There were two major incel communities, LoveShy, which started in the mid-2000s and PUAHate which adopted the Incel viewpoint in the late 00's. LoveShy was very pessimistic but never considered serious self-improvement, sort of nihilistic. PUA Hate at this point was more about becoming a Chad or at least more desirable to women. This is when you saw the Misc begin to copy them at first in a mocking way but then seriously. Even pre-ER, we've dealt with Fatrelle and the like, merely bringing up looks angers people.

Eventually the paranoia and passivity of the LoveShy community led them to become very inactive and irrelevant in the Incelosphere. PUAHate had exited its peak from 2012 but still held steady until ER happened in May 2014. A month later, SlutHate, as the name suggests, opened as an "edgy" replacement and now the focus was mostly on how they were discriminated by their looks and were seen as second-class citizens. There were some who felt that this alone led nowhere so Lookism was started but the aesthetics got lost in RPing and cryptomining from the outset. This is the part where I get hazy, I think the Reddit presence started with truecels then incels and finally here?

It appears that there have been three major communities, the first didn't leave a huge imprint but it did foreshadow today's pessimism. The second community is where most of the jargon and concepts came from. It has moved to various forums but their presence is what launched the community we're a part of today. Finally, the third is sort of a hybrid in terms of the two schools of thought. I'm privileged to have met some from the first although honestly the majority were contemptible people. Being a part of the second was really where I left a legacy at least compared to the average guy who has done fuckall with their lives. That's my "history of the incels".
 
There were two major incel communities, LoveShy, which started in the mid-2000s and PUAHate which adopted the Incel viewpoint in the late 00's. LoveShy was very pessimistic but never considered serious self-improvement, sort of nihilistic. PUA Hate at this point was more about becoming a Chad or at least more desirable to women. This is when you saw the Misc begin to copy them at first in a mocking way but then seriously. Even pre-ER, we've dealt with Fatrelle and the like, merely bringing up looks angers people.

Eventually the paranoia and passivity of the LoveShy community led them to become very inactive and irrelevant in the Incelosphere. PUAHate had exited its peak from 2012 but still held steady until ER happened in May 2014. A month later, SlutHate, as the name suggests, opened as an "edgy" replacement and now the focus was mostly on how they were discriminated by their looks and were seen as second-class citizens. There were some who felt that this alone led nowhere so Lookism was started but the aesthetics got lost in RPing and cryptomining from the outset. This is the part where I get hazy, I think the Reddit presence started with truecels then incels and finally here?

It appears that there have been three major communities, the first didn't leave a huge imprint but it did foreshadow today's pessimism. The second community is where most of the jargon and concepts came from. It has moved to various forums but their presence is what launched the community we're a part of today. Finally, the third is sort of a hybrid in terms of the two schools of thought. I'm privileged to have met some from the first although honestly the majority were contemptible people. Being a part of the second was really where I left a legacy at least compared to the average guy who has done fuckall with their lives. That's my "history of the incels".
That was great, thank you. Do you reckon anyone from first generation, loveshyers are still lurking on this site today? It’s crazy to think they would be oldcels by now.
 
That was great, thank you. Do you reckon anyone from first generation, loveshyers are still lurking on this site today? It’s crazy to think they would be oldcels by now.

Hmm, I only knew of a few that made it to the end of second gen. One of them posts on YouTube as Master Yoda but I think he ALWAYS posts as that so he hasn’t made the leap here. One of the mods from truecels was governmentsgetgirlfriends, an old-timer from LS but once again, I haven’t seen him on here. Their age + our focus on looks which they HATE probably has them either in secluded chats or they moved on. FaceandLMS is probably the longest active poster on here but even he was early 2nd generation. Lurkers from then... I think the ER coverage scared any of those away.
 
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I want to know more about the history of inceldom as an internet phenomenon. It can only benefit the community to continue to categorise and document itself. A lot of you are very tech savy, there should be a concerted effort between high IQ members to create timelines and demographic graphs that better represent this community and it’s evolution from PUAhate to the modern day, with specific events such as The Isla Vista attack and it’s proceeding fallout and affect on the incel community highlighted. It would be interesting to see something like this on a specific area of the site, maybe along with the Blackwell archive.
I agree with you ,something like a tv program in discovery max exploring the origins and increase of the incels community with interesting data for examples persons before 20th century that can be considered involuntary celibates
 
All I know is that it all started on /misc/.
Yup. The incel crisis started in the past 15 years or so due to the rise of social media. This almost perfectly coincides with the new internet lifting movement. A bunch of guys who completly missed sex in high school started pouring into the gym with "hardcore" internet programs, as opposed to the curlbro programs that had been working for Chad for decades. Once these squat centered programs failed to get them laid, so misc was born. The rest is history.
 
Hmm, I only knew of a few that made it to the end of second gen. One of them posts on YouTube as Master Yoda but I think he ALWAYS posts as that so he hasn’t made the leap here. One of the mods from truecels was governmentsgetgirlfriends, an old-timer from LS but once again, I haven’t seen him on here. Their age + our focus on looks which they HATE probably has them either in secluded chats or they moved on. FaceandLMS is probably the longest active poster on here but even he was early 2nd generation. Lurkers from then... I think the ER coverage scared any of those away.

Interesting to learn about Master Yoda, I heard about it from a different source. If anyone is interested @ColdLightOfDay you can find two interviews of him with Steve Hoca from way back




He's fairly active on youtube, I've seen him commenting on videos from FACEandLMS, Steve Hoca, Hugh Latraviata, HBTDL but sadly many are lost now due to youtube censorship/flagging.

Important history lession from @TheRealChincel, I would be interested in you documenting your experiences if you ever feel like it. I would also like to ask if you were aware of the TFL movement back in late 00's, I believe it started with Hoca and Bill greathouse but they both deleted most of their content.
 
Interesting to learn about Master Yoda, I heard about it from a different source. If anyone is interested @ColdLightOfDay you can find two interviews of him with Steve Hoca from way back




He's fairly active on youtube, I've seen him commenting on videos from FACEandLMS, Steve Hoca, Hugh Latraviata, HBTDL but sadly many are lost now due to youtube censorship/flagging.

Important history lession from @TheRealChincel, I would be interested in you documenting your experiences if you ever feel like it. I would also like to ask if you were aware of the TFL movement back in late 00's, I believe it started with Hoca and Bill greathouse but they both deleted most of their content.


If I document my experiences, it’ll be during late fall prob. TFL, I just know it was Bill, Dwayne (obese blackcel who lived at home) and Steve. They were definitely an odd threesome, I thought their idea of TFL was solid but you couldn’t have picked worse guys to represent it. Steve with the narcissism and belief that things were honky-dory in the 80’s, Dwayne allowing himself to get that way, and Bill having had a wife and kids. Men’s societies, just wtf.
 
I would like to see it, can you remember the month the thread was the thread made, or thereabouts?

As I'm a Maycel, I believe it was in May. Also check June.
 

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