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A lot of times the real reason someone may not like social gatherings and may be different when socialising is simply just because they are ugly.

When you are ugly, at the minimum, you are treated poorly and have less overall time spent in your life interacting with other humans. So OF COURSE you're not going to develop your social skills in the same way or at the same speed as the average person (average looking people).

Someone doesn't like going to parties? Maybe it's because they are ignored or treated badly in social situations due to their looks so why would they want to go?

Someone is quiet in class? Maybe it's not by choice and it's that they've naturally been ostrasized by their piers. Notice how on the first day of university, it's always that all the good looking people naturally gravitate towards eachother despite having never met before.


The problem with autism tests and personality tests is that they don't ask WHY someone has answered the way they answered. Someone may say they don't like socialising but that information is irrelevant unless you know WHY they feel that way.

But even if they do ask why on the test, the person themselves isn't even going to know why. Everyone is bluepilled and treats everyone based of their looks until you ask people if they think looks matter they'll say otherwise. So how is a person supposed to even know the reason why, especially when they're a kid.


Lastly, something that may happen is that a teacher may see a kid in class being quiet and lonely, therefore they send them to these special classes where they go to once a week perhaps and are taught one to one or taught in a small group perhaps with two other people, and perhaps those two other people actually do have autism.

This will completely fuck up the development of a normal kid even more than it already has been due to the fact that they're ugly. No child who's brain is in theta mode should be ostrasized and treated differently to everyone else when it's not needed. The child may be fine on his own, but is sent to these special classes that just emphasizes everything the more they go to these classes and the more they are ostrasized end it spirals into something bigger where they do in fact develop some traits of autism where it could've however been prevented.

Another thing is disability. Why do so many people born with physical disabilities also coincidentally have mental issues like autism? It's because of their upbringing being completely different and unfathomable to regular people. They will have an adult follow them everywhere they go their entire life since the second they're born and will be excluded from gallons of everyday social activities that the regular person gets to experience.


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Someone with wide spaced eyes may also have autism? How is there any correlation between the two?
 
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@Atavistic Autist thoughts on the matter?
 
High IQ thread.
 
I can relate to some of this, especially being sent to special ed and getting socially fucked up. If I looked like chad would women flock to me and teachers treat me better? I don't know, I think I would still be socially incompetent and boring as fuck. Attractive mentalcels exist's too, what would explain them?
 
I can relate to some of this, especially being sent to special ed and getting socially fucked up. If I looked like chad would women flock to me and teachers treat me better? I don't know, I think I would still be socially incompetent and boring as fuck. Attractive mentalcels exist's too, what would explain them?
I'm not saying everyone who has autism and is ugly is misdiagnosed
 
@Atavistic Autist thoughts on the matter?
Having a lack of social skills is not even a criterion in the diagnosis of autism; it is just a symptom.

The primary indicator of autism is restrictive and repetitive behaviors and interests.
 
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A lot of times the real reason someone may not like social gatherings and may be different when socialising is simply just because they are ugly.

When you are ugly, at the minimum, you are treated poorly and have less overall time spent in your life interacting with other humans. So OF COURSE you're not going to develop your social skills in the same way or at the same speed as the average person (average looking people).

Someone doesn't like going to parties? Maybe it's because they are ignored or treated badly in social situations due to their looks so why would they want to go?

Someone is quiet in class? Maybe it's not by choice and it's that they've naturally been ostrasized by their piers. Notice how on the first day of university, it's always that all the good looking people naturally gravitate towards eachother despite having never met before.


The problem with autism tests and personality tests is that they don't ask WHY someone has answered the way they answered. Someone may say they don't like socialising but that information is irrelevant unless you know WHY they feel that way.

But even if they do ask why on the test, the person themselves isn't even going to know why. Everyone is bluepilled and treats everyone based of their looks until you ask people if they think looks matter they'll say otherwise. So how is a person supposed to even know the reason why, especially when they're a kid.


Lastly, something that may happen is that a teacher may see a kid in class being quiet and lonely, therefore they send them to these special classes where they go to once a week perhaps and are taught one to one or taught in a small group perhaps with two other people, and perhaps those two other people actually do have autism.

This will completely fuck up the development of a normal kid even more than it already has been due to the fact that they're ugly. No child who's brain is in theta mode should be ostrasized and treated differently to everyone else when it's not needed. The child may be fine on his own, but is sent to these special classes that just emphasizes everything the more they go to these classes and the more they are ostrasized end it spirals into something bigger where they do in fact develop some traits of autism where it could've however been prevented.

Another thing is disability. Why do so many people born with physical disabilities also coincidentally have mental issues like autism? It's because of their upbringing being completely different and unfathomable to regular people. They will have an adult follow them everywhere they go their entire life since the second they're born and will be excluded from gallons of everyday social activities that the regular person gets to experience.


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This thread was inspired by the image above.

Someone with wide spaced eyes may also have autism? How is there any correlation between the two?
finally a high iq thread
qudos fast banana
 
Having a lack of social skills is not even a criterion in the diagnosis of autism; it is just a symptom.

The primary indicator of autism is restrictive and repetitive behaviors and interests.
Why is that a bad thing? Why do you need to be 'diagnosed' for that?
 
High IQ.

I'm convinced that I'd be diagnosed with autism if I went to a doctor and described him my behavior/issues at this point. I've always been withdrawn & poor social skills because I was bullied for years. Autism is a meme nowadays
 
Why is that a bad thing? Why do you need to be 'diagnosed' for that?
It interferes with normal functioning in life, and is a consequence of being easily over-stimulated and anxious due to an aberrant neurology (sensory senstivities due to having too many active brain cells, a larger amygdala, etc.).

I am not criticizing your aptitude to observe the world and make hypotheses, but there is an explanation for all your doubts regarding autism that even our very own autistic celibates on this forum can explain to you.

With respect to wide-set eyes being an indicator of neurological conditions, this only makes sense, because the brain is the area of the body where the most single amount of genes are dedicated to, and if there is a disorder in the brain, then a disorder in the body is almost to be expected.

For my part, one of my eyes is slightly below the other, an asymmetry which is seen in many of those who are not NT. While I do not have wide-set eyes, I have seen the face pic of an autistic celibate on this forum who does, and besides this, I have acute vision problems that are congenital and autism has been shown to correlate with these. I also have prominent under eye bags like some other autists do.
 
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A lot of times the real reason someone may not like social gatherings and may be different when socialising is simply just because they are ugly.

When you are ugly, at the minimum, you are treated poorly and have less overall time spent in your life interacting with other humans. So OF COURSE you're not going to develop your social skills in the same way or at the same speed as the average person (average looking people).

Someone doesn't like going to parties? Maybe it's because they are ignored or treated badly in social situations due to their looks so why would they want to go?

Someone is quiet in class? Maybe it's not by choice and it's that they've naturally been ostrasized by their piers. Notice how on the first day of university, it's always that all the good looking people naturally gravitate towards eachother despite having never met before.


The problem with autism tests and personality tests is that they don't ask WHY someone has answered the way they answered. Someone may say they don't like socialising but that information is irrelevant unless you know WHY they feel that way.

But even if they do ask why on the test, the person themselves isn't even going to know why. Everyone is bluepilled and treats everyone based of their looks until you ask people if they think looks matter they'll say otherwise. So how is a person supposed to even know the reason why, especially when they're a kid.


Lastly, something that may happen is that a teacher may see a kid in class being quiet and lonely, therefore they send them to these special classes where they go to once a week perhaps and are taught one to one or taught in a small group perhaps with two other people, and perhaps those two other people actually do have autism.

This will completely fuck up the development of a normal kid even more than it already has been due to the fact that they're ugly. No child who's brain is in theta mode should be ostrasized and treated differently to everyone else when it's not needed. The child may be fine on his own, but is sent to these special classes that just emphasizes everything the more they go to these classes and the more they are ostrasized end it spirals into something bigger where they do in fact develop some traits of autism where it could've however been prevented.

Another thing is disability. Why do so many people born with physical disabilities also coincidentally have mental issues like autism? It's because of their upbringing being completely different and unfathomable to regular people. They will have an adult follow them everywhere they go their entire life since the second they're born and will be excluded from gallons of everyday social activities that the regular person gets to experience.


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This thread was inspired by the image above.

Someone with wide spaced eyes may also have autism? How is there any correlation between the two?
Autism, social delinquency diagnoses in low status males more often that not equals "shut up and believe there is something wrong with you and not the society that made you feel so helpless and alone."
 
Autism, social delinquency diagnoses in low status males more often that not equals "shut up and believe there is something wrong with you and not the society that made you feel so helpless and alone."
Tbh
 
A lot of times the real reason someone may not like social gatherings and may be different when socialising is simply just because they are ugly.

When you are ugly, at the minimum, you are treated poorly and have less overall time spent in your life interacting with other humans. So OF COURSE you're not going to develop your social skills in the same way or at the same speed as the average person (average looking people).

Someone doesn't like going to parties? Maybe it's because they are ignored or treated badly in social situations due to their looks so why would they want to go?

Someone is quiet in class? Maybe it's not by choice and it's that they've naturally been ostrasized by their piers. Notice how on the first day of university, it's always that all the good looking people naturally gravitate towards eachother despite having never met before.


The problem with autism tests and personality tests is that they don't ask WHY someone has answered the way they answered. Someone may say they don't like socialising but that information is irrelevant unless you know WHY they feel that way.

But even if they do ask why on the test, the person themselves isn't even going to know why. Everyone is bluepilled and treats everyone based of their looks until you ask people if they think looks matter they'll say otherwise. So how is a person supposed to even know the reason why, especially when they're a kid.


Lastly, something that may happen is that a teacher may see a kid in class being quiet and lonely, therefore they send them to these special classes where they go to once a week perhaps and are taught one to one or taught in a small group perhaps with two other people, and perhaps those two other people actually do have autism.

This will completely fuck up the development of a normal kid even more than it already has been due to the fact that they're ugly. No child who's brain is in theta mode should be ostrasized and treated differently to everyone else when it's not needed. The child may be fine on his own, but is sent to these special classes that just emphasizes everything the more they go to these classes and the more they are ostrasized end it spirals into something bigger where they do in fact develop some traits of autism where it could've however been prevented.

Another thing is disability. Why do so many people born with physical disabilities also coincidentally have mental issues like autism? It's because of their upbringing being completely different and unfathomable to regular people. They will have an adult follow them everywhere they go their entire life since the second they're born and will be excluded from gallons of everyday social activities that the regular person gets to experience.


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This thread was inspired by the image above.

Someone with wide spaced eyes may also have autism? How is there any correlation between the two?
Number of molecules in the universe IQ. From personal experience: Mental health counseling hurt me more than it helped me. I got completely different diagnoses each time. While I visited such groups as a child my social skills completely eroded. These people were nothing like me. Some of the persons there were completely unapproachable, one of the men there just sat there and hit his own head while making jactitations. Furthermore I think that many persons want their child to have autism (due to mistaking it with savantism) and therefore urge the doctor towards such a diagnosis - by doing so they hope that their socially akward and bullied child is destined for greatness although autism (even if it wasn't such an overdiagnosed illness) most of the time just means a life-long social impediment. The consequences of a misdiagnosis are simply the worst.
 
Autism, social delinquency diagnoses in low status males more often that not equals "shut up and believe there is something wrong with you and not the society that made you feel so helpless and alone."
There is no rough dichotomy between social and individual responsibility; the truth is naturally a mixture of both.

Psychology stresses individual responsibility because this is what's in the realm of a typical person's power. If all you have to work with is your individual self, and you cannot control society, then controlling yourself and your own perceptions is the only logical response. Such thinking informs the philosophy of Stoicism.

What I find ironic is that critics of mental illness categories who complain about too much stress being placed on individuals and not society when it comes to their problems invalidate the very diagnoses these individuals depend on for social support :feelstastyman:

It is also ironic that those who believe in genetic determinism would scoff at neurological disorders when the most single amount of human genes are dedicated to the brain, and also ironic is the fact that they would demand society do more for people with bad genes when they do not believe environmental modifications would be useful in the first place :feelstastyman::feelstastyman:


High IQ.

I'm convinced that I'd be diagnosed with autism if I went to a doctor and described him my behavior/issues at this point. I've always been withdrawn & poor social skills because I was bullied for years. Autism is a meme nowadays
All diagnosticians go through a process called differential diagnosis, where they distinguish between different categories and determine which one suits you best.

Perhaps you are on the schizophrenic spectrum, and would be labeled as having schizoid or schizotypal personality (the former suggests that you have no interest at all in social acquaintance, and are ego-syntonic in solitude, and the latter suggests that you want social acquaintance but fear it, and are ego-dystonic in solitude, not unlike an avoidant or someone with AvPD, the difference being low emotional affect and reality testing).

finally a high iq thread
qudos fast banana
I am not surprised that you find a confirmation of your preconceptions to be high IQ.
 
I think this is the case for a lot of late autism diagnosis. It's becoming a catch all term for men who no longer meet the threshold to participate in society.
The primary indication of autism is restricted and repetitive behaviors and interests.
Late speech, toewalking and other non meme symptoms are identifiable early on. That's real autism to me. Being ugly, disinterested in school and stuck in your room is not repetitive behavior. It's either play Runescape all day or rope at 11.
 
I am not surprised that you find a confirmation of your preconceptions to be high IQ.
says the biggest highiq LARPER on the forum,
who whats more exclusively replies to threads hand picked because of his own confirmation bias

ill always beat you i know every trick in the book

and that one aint even a good one

you low iq crab
 
It interferes with normal functioning in life, and is a consequence of being easily over-stimulated and anxious due to an aberrant neurology (sensory senstivities due to having too many active brain cells, a larger amygdala, etc.).

I am not criticizing your aptitude to observe the world and make hypotheses, but there is an explanation for all your doubts regarding autism that even our very own autistic celibates on this forum can explain to you.

With respect to wide-set eyes being an indicator of neurological conditions, this only makes sense, because the brain is the area of the body where the most single amount of genes are dedicated to, and if there is a disorder in the brain, then a disorder in the body is almost to be expected.

For my part, one of my eyes is slightly below the other, an asymmetry which is seen in many of those who are not NT. While I do not have wide-set eyes, I have seen the face pic of an autistic celibate on this forum who does, and besides this, I have acute vision problems that are congenital and autism has been shown to correlate with these. I also have prominent under eye bags like some other autists do.
Maybe I'm wrong about people being diagnosed for autism for being ugly. It was just a theory that came to my head. When I saw the image shown in my original post.

But no one can deny that gettin treated differently for being ugly/disabled when it isnt needed definitely will have bad affects on you where your problems become magnified until they become actual problems.

There is this video on YouTube which I can't find. It's about this thing where if you assume someone is a certain type of person, even if in reality they aren't that type of person, if you treat them as if they are that type of person then they will actually become that type of person.
 
I think this is the case for a lot of late autism diagnosis.

Late speech, toewalking and other non meme symptoms are identifiable early on. That's real autism to me.
What you are describing here is the distinction between autism and Asperger's Syndrome -- the latter being typically diagnosed later in life.

Autism proper entails delayed speech development and lower verbal intelligence, but higher spatial intelligence. On the contrary, Asperger's Syndrome goes along with higher verbal intelligence but lower spatial intelligence. The latter is what I have, and it is an autism spectrum disorder, now analogues to Autism Level 1.

Restrictive and repetitive behavior is not playing Runescape all day (in which you actually encounter much variety), but pacing around your room back and forth for an hour while monologuing to yourself, playing the same shit indie game for 1,000 hours on the same class, listening to the same song or portion of a song for hundreds if not thousands of times over a consistent period, etc.

For the record, I found Runescape very anxiety inducing when I was a child because it was too large-scale. Autistic brains prefer smaller-scale enterprises because they are more easily controllable.
 
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There is no rough dichotomy between social and individual responsibility; the truth is naturally a mixture of both.
I agree but too many normies act like when it comes to nonchad males there is no effect from society or if there is that nonchad males should just ignore it and keep working.

Psychology stresses individual responsibility because this is what's in the realm of a typical person's power. If all you have to work with is your individual self, and you cannot control society, then controlling yourself and your own perceptions is the only logical response. Such thinking informs the philosophy of Stoicism.
Stoicism is cope though tbh

What I find ironic is that critics of mental illness categories who complain about too much stress being placed on individuals and not society when it comes to their problems invalidate the very diagnoses these individuals depend on for social support :feelstastyman:

It is also ironic that those who believe in genetic determinism would scoff at neurological disorders when the most single amount of human genes are dedicated to the brain, and also ironic is the fact that they would demand society do more for people with bad genes when they do not believe environmental modifications would be useful in the first place :feelstastyman::feelstastyman:

Imo autism and not being NT are definitely real and significant hurdles in leading a normal life for nonchad males.
A lot of criticism of mental illness categories is because it pathologizes and demonizes normal feelings of angst in nonchad males and is used to paint them as dysfuncitonal when the society they are in is just as much if not more dysfunctional.
 
Restrictive and repetitive behaviors is not playing Runescape all day (in which you actually encounter much variety), but pacing around your room back and forth for an hour while monologuing to yourself, playing the same shit indie game for 1,000 hours on the same class, listening to the same song or portion of song for thousands of times over a consistent period, etc.
I'll listen to the same part of a song over and over again if I really like that part of the song. Only like 10-20 times tho.

I'll stare out the window for 20mins just daydreaming about a non existent social situation/convosation with someone.

And the game ting seems normal I doesnt everyone do this?

I imagine you have this but worse? Why do you need to be diagnosed with something for this? What affects does it have on you? I don't understand.

Autism entails delayed speech development
This is what happens when you're ugly and have a lack of time spent socialising compared to the average person.
 
For the record, I found Runescape very anxiety inducing when I was a child because it was too large-scale. Autistic brains prefer small-scale enterprises because they are more easily controllable.
I'm diagnosed autistic and found the opposite to be true. But I would play it differently, getting skill capes primarily and rarely doing quests. Grinding could be a repetitive interest thing. I think you could apply that to men in general though.
 
Some people are being diagnosed ugly just because they're with autism
 
Grinding could be a repetitive interest thing. I think you could apply that to men in general though.
Yes. When I did play RuneScape, I grinded like hell.

We would unironically make good wageslaves if not for the social aspect, and if we were rewarded well enough for it.
 
I'm diagnosed autistic and found the opposite to be true. But I would play it differently, getting skill capes primarily and rarely doing quests. Grinding could be a repetitive interest thing. I think you could apply that to men in general though.
I only play games where you have lots of freedom tbh. I hate shooter games cuz Ur so limited and theyre all so similar in a way and the maps b small.

Minecraft and GTA and red dead and FIFA (freedom with tactics and how you play)

Tbh one weird thing I do in games that I know would bore a normie is solo roleplaying. Like in GTA I'll follow traffic lights and drive realistically.

And in Red dead I've started the whole story mode again if I did anything unrealistic or did the missions in an unrealistic order.

Is this an autism trait? I don't have (((autism))) btw.
 
I only play games where you have lots of freedom tbh. I hate shooter games cuz Ur so limited and theyre all so similar in a way and the maps b small.

Minecraft and GTA and red dead and FIFA (freedom with tactics and how you play)

Tbh one weird thing I do in games that I know would bore a normie is solo roleplaying. Like in GTA I'll follow traffic lights and drive realistically.

And in Red dead I've started the whole story mode again if I did anything unrealistic or did the missions in an unrealistic order.

Is this an autism trait? I don't have (((autism))) btw.
An autistic trait is to play a sandbox game like GTA and unironically follow traffic rules.
 
Yes. When I did play RuneScape, I grinded like hell.

We would unironically make good wageslaves if not for the social aspect, and if we were rewarded well enough for it.
That's perfectly normal thing to do. Especially on a game like RuneScape.

And of course you wouldn't do well on the social aspect: you're ugly.
An autistic trait is to play a sandbox game like GTA and unironically follow traffic rules.
Tbh I could probably easily get diagnosed with autism if I went to a doctor/psychologist and took a test.

But it doesn't affect my life negatively in any way. It's being ugly that affects my life and it's being ugly that gives me most of my (((autistic))) traits social-wise.
 
I only play games where you have lots of freedom tbh. I hate shooter games cuz Ur so limited and theyre all so similar in a way and the maps b small.

Minecraft and GTA and red dead and FIFA (freedom with tactics and how you play)

Tbh one weird thing I do in games that I know would bore a normie is solo roleplaying. Like in GTA I'll follow traffic lights and drive realistically.

And in Red dead I've started the whole story mode again if I did anything unrealistic or did the missions in an unrealistic order.

Is this an autism trait? I don't have (((autism))) btw.
I love GTA IV and RDR/RDR2 for the roleplay aspect. It was fun to change clothes regularly, follow traffic rules, turn the radar off, go out with friends (lol) and do shit realistically. Immersion I think is just a way of extending the life of our escapism.
 
I love GTA IV and RDR/RDR2 for the roleplay aspect. It was fun to change clothes regularly, follow traffic rules, turn the radar off, go out with friends (lol) and do shit realistically. Immersion I think is just a way of extending the life of our escapism.
This. Tbh.

Must be a trait of people who b in isolation and have a lack of social experiences for being ugly (@Atavistic Autist)
 
Going for night walks and taking the train unironically in a GTA game has to be an autism symptom. I'd also seethe if I ass pulled an AK47 instead of using a weapon that can't realistically be concealed.
 
That's perfectly normal thing to do. Especially on a game like RuneScape.
My grinding was so monotonous that it was distinctive.

And my all-pervasive accordance with traffic rules in GTA, as well as interest in trucking simulators and city builders screams autism tbhngl.

Tbh I could probably easily get diagnosed with autism if I went to a doctor/psychologist and took a test.

But it doesn't affect my life negatively in any way. It's being ugly that affects my life and it's being ugly that gives me most of my (((autistic))) traits social-wise.
You could actually get benefits from an autism diagnosis, unlike having a certificate of being ugly.

Do not ever tell a diagnostician that your autism doesn't negatively affect you, if he determines you have it, lol.
 
My grinding was so monotonous that it was distinctive.

And my all-pervasive accordance with traffic rules in GTA, as well as interest in trucking simulators and city builders screams autism tbhngl.


You could actually get benefits from an autism diagnosis, unlike having a certificate of being ugly.

Do not ever tell a diagnostician that your autism doesn't negatively affect you, if he determines you have it, lol.
What's the point of being 'diagnosed' with (((autism))) if it doesn't affect you negatively in any way?
My grinding was so monotonous that it was distinctive.

And my all-pervasive accordance with traffic rules in GTA, as well as interest in trucking simulators and city builders screams autism tbhngl.


You could actually get benefits from an autism diagnosis, unlike having a certificate of being ugly.

Do not ever tell a diagnostician that your autism doesn't negatively affect you, if he determines you have it, lol.
What's the point of being 'diagnosed' with (((autism))) if it doesn't affect you negatively in any way?

I'm not going for the NEET route of life otherwise I would get myself 'diagnosed'.
 
What's the point of being 'diagnosed' with (((autism))) if it doesn't affect you negatively in any way?

What's the point of being 'diagnosed' with (((autism))) if it doesn't affect you negatively in any way?

I'm not going for the NEET route of life otherwise I would get myself 'diagnosed'.
Money and a place to LDAR if you just give up entirely. I'm pretty sure you can still try to make it and get neetbux.
 
This. Tbh.

Must be a trait of people who b in isolation and have a lack of social experiences for being ugly (@Atavistic Autist)
If you have autism, then it usually follows that you are isolated and lack a social life and need to live vicariously, but you could be this way for similar mental health reasons (like ADHD and/or OCD), or, yes, because of offputting physical features, or all of the above.

What's the point of being 'diagnosed' with (((autism))) if it doesn't affect you negatively in any way?

I'm not going for the NEET route of life otherwise I would get myself 'diagnosed'.
If you were to get diagnosed with autism, then this sort of discredits the idea that it doesn't affect you negatively in any way. Such all-or-nothing thinking is typically caused by emotional immaturity and is often seen in autism, lul.

But to answer your question, it would enlighten you as to the reason for your behaviors and enable you to control them. Even if you don't want to become a NEET, you could get subsidized higher education and protections against discrimination in the workplace (which ranting about being ugly on the .co and insisting that it's the only contributing factor for your failures in academia and the workplace would not get you).
 
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If you were to get diagnosed with autism, then this sort of discredits the idea that it doesn't affect you negatively in any way. Such all-or-nothing thinking is a symptom of emotional
No. I would only get autism if I wanted to LDAR and NEET. And my reasonings behind that lifestyle and every 'autism trait' I have would be due to my looks.

Even if you don't want to become a NEET, you could get subsidized higher education and protections against discrimination in the workplace (which ranting about being ugly on the .co and insisting that it's the only factor for your failures would not get you).
I've never failed. All I do is win, win, win no matter what; got money on my mind I can never get enough.

The only way I've failed in life is in never having been in a relationship and people making fun of and treating me badly due to my looks.
 
This only applies to real 1-2/10 ugly truecels tho. I don't think this applies to 3-4/10 guys like me. I am a below average man and I bet 80% people here are 3+.
I don't think there are that many legit uggos 1-2/10 manlets here. Most are just unfortunate average-below average looking
 
The only way I've failed in life is in never having been in a relationship and people making fun of and treating me badly due to my looks.

I believe that this is probably the case for you, but the lives of most people here are more complicated than that and they combine differences in the brain with differences in the body that disadvantage them in multiple aspects of life.

I am an example of this: an incel for neurological, mental, and somatic reasons. My autism has prevented me from losing my virginity, when I could have as an NT normie under the same environmental conditions. Both my autism and appearance have contributed to my social exclusion and thus my fractured personality, but it is mainly my autism that is the problem, since it is even responsible for affecting my looks in the negative ways that it has (through genetics).
 
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normies never say the truth , the are hypocrites
 
Number of molecules in the universe IQ. From personal experience: Mental health counseling hurt me more than it helped me. I got completely different diagnoses each time. While I visited such groups as a child my social skills completely eroded. These people were nothing like me. Some of the persons there were completely unapproachable, one of the men there just sat there and hit his own head while making jactitations. Furthermore I think that many persons want their child to have autism (due to mistaking it with savantism) and therefore urge the doctor towards such a diagnosis - by doing so they hope that their socially akward and bullied child is destined for greatness although autism (even if it wasn't such an overdiagnosed illness) most of the time just means a life-long social impediment. The consequences of a misdiagnosis are simply the worst.
Evidently you have come to agree with a diagnosis of ADHD, though, as an ADHDcel, is that correct?

Parents wanting their children to have autism so they qualify as savants is an interesting form of narcissistic abuse. Typically the opposite case is spoken about: parents lying about their child's autistic qualities by minimizing them because of the negative stigma associated with the term autism, which has only increased in recent years due to the elimination of Asperger's Syndrome as a distinct diagnostic category.

What were you diagnosed with besides ADHD, btw? :feelswhere:
 
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Evidently you have come to agree with a diagnosis of ADHD, though, as an ADHDcel, is that correct?

Parents wanting their children to have autism so they qualify as savants is an interesting form of narcissistic abuse. Typically the opposite case is spoken about: parents lying about their child's autistic qualities and minimizing them because of the negative stigma associated with the term autism, which has only increased in recent years due to the elimination of Asperger's Syndrome as a distinct diagnostic category.

What were you diagnosed with besides ADHD, btw? :feelswhere:
I know someone irl who was 'diagnosed' with ADHD and certainly didn't have it, or at least it didn't negatively affect him in any way.

He was completely and utterly normal in every way. He was in top set for every subject and was normal socially (apart from the fact that he was a normie).

No one whom he told that he had autism wasn't surprised.

After he told me that he has to go to these weekly thingys cuz of his 'ADHD' I asked him why and that I couldn't even tell he had it and everything and even he said himself that he thought it was pointless. But obviously as a normie, he just goes with the flow and is to docile to do anything about anything.

He was a curry btw which is why he may have been misdiagnosed.


I saw this good vid once talkin bout how loads of black ppl in the US are getting misdiagnosed with ADHD cuz of how they're surrounded in class by white ppl and the teacher b white which subconsciously makes him unable to relate with these ppl causing him to be distracted and not pay attention n all dat. Also: ADHD treatment = (((money)))
 
I know someone irl who was 'diagnosed' with ADHD and certainly didn't have it, or at least it didn't negatively affect him in any way.

He was completely and utterly normal in every way. He was in top set for every subject and was normal socially (apart from the fact that he was a normie).

No one whom he told that he had autism wasn't surprised.

After he told me that he has to go to these weekly thingys cuz of his 'ADHD' I asked him why and that I couldn't even tell he had it and everything and even he said himself that he thought it was pointless. But obviously as a normie, he just goes with the flow and is to docile to do anything about anything.

He was a curry btw which is why he may have been misdiagnosed.


I saw this good vid once talkin bout how loads of black ppl in the US are getting misdiagnosed with ADHD cuz of how they're surrounded in class by white ppl and the teacher b white which subconsciously makes him unable to relate with these ppl causing him to be distracted and not pay attention n all dat. Also: ADHD treatment = (((money)))
Blacks are more likely to have ADHD due to inherent racial differences that frankly make them less conscientious/intelligent, and more psychopathic (ADHD being correlated with conduct disorder and ASPD). ADHD is primarily neurological, after all, and if you are a genetic determinist, then this explanation should be convincing.

As for your curry friend, it seems very strange that somebody who does well academically would be diagnosed with ADHD. Was he on any medication? And did you mean to say he also had autism, or is it just ADHD?
 
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Blacks are more likely to have ADHD due to inherent racial differences that frankly make them less conscientious/intelligent, and more psychopathic (ADHD being correlated with conduct disorder and ASPD). ADHD is primarily neurological, after all, and if you are a genetic determinist, then this explanation should be convincing.

As for your curry friend, it seems very strange that somebody who does well academically would be diagnosed with ADHD. Was he on any medication? And did you mean to say he also had autism, or is it just ADHD?
No just ADHD. I dunno if he needed medication for it but ik that he went to these weekly appointment thingys.

He didnae have autism.

Jfld at the thing about black people. It's funny cuz it's true. I would love to see how a normie would react to being told that.
 
Evidently you have come to agree with a diagnosis of ADHD, though, as an ADHDcel, is that correct?

Parents wanting their children to have autism so they qualify as savants is an interesting form of narcissistic abuse. Typically the opposite case is spoken about: parents lying about their child's autistic qualities by minimizing them because of the negative stigma associated with the term autism, which has only increased in recent years due to the elimination of Asperger's Syndrome as a distinct diagnostic category.

What were you diagnosed with besides ADHD, btw? :feelswhere:
ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome - always either one or another.
Some suggested organic personality disorder as a result of brain damage at first, but brain scans didn't reveal anything. They were probably afraid of antisocial tendencies.
Not going to lie: The ADHD-treatment helped a lot. Especially neurofeedback was a success, although it was experimental at that time. My parents did one good thing, they never allowed medication (especially Ritalin) and I wasn't turned into a druggie as a child.
 
ADHD, Asperger's Syndrome - always either one or another.
Some suggested organic personality disorder as a result of brain damage at first, but brain scans didn't reveal anything. They were probably afraid of antisocial tendencies.
Not going to lie: The ADHD-treatment helped a lot. Especially neurofeedback was a success, although it was experimental at that time. My parents did one good thing, they never allowed medication (especially Ritalin) and I wasn't turned into a druggie as a child.
Never heard of neurofeedback ngl. Can you explain what it entails?

I have ADHD myself, and have seen success in treating it with Red Reishi mushroom, which is known to be protective of dopamine circuits in the brain and to be useful in combating neurological disorders, which you correctly understand ADHD to be.
 
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Never heard of neurofeedback ngl. Can you explain what it entails?

I have ADHD myself, and have seen success with Red Reishi Mushroom, which is known to be protective of dopamine circuits in the brain and to be useful in combating neurological disorders, which you correctly understand ADHD to be.
It's a form of EEG that wants to teach you self-regulation of the brain. A psychiatrist can give a patient different tasks - my experience: Electrodes are put on the skull and you try to move a point through a labyrinth. It helped me to focus and also cleared me of headaches while I was doing it. Others report little to no effects, others get good results. The opinions differ.
 
It's a form of EEG that wants to teach you self-regulation of the brain. A psychiatrist can give a patient different tasks - my experience: Electrodes are put on the skull and you try to move a point through a labyrinth. It helped me to focus and also cleared me of headaches while I was doing it. Others report little to no effects, others get good results. The opinions differ.
I have looked into Red Reishi mushroom a little more and the way it protects dopamine receptors in the brain is by inhibiting microglial activation, which is actually implicated as a cause of autism!

ADHD, of course, comes with a lack of dopamine.



What's interesting about this theory is that it detracts from a purely neurological etiology, and prominently features the gut and immune system.
 
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