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Blackpill Social status is genetic, lifelong, heritable and can be guessed from both photos of your face and your brain scans

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So, I just used the Scientific Blackpill page on Incels.wiki to reply to another thread on here, and as I did so, I discovered the study below the one I used as a reply and decided to give it a read:

A man's looks are significantly correlated with his popularity and peer status - Incels.wiki

Now, it's a brutal read, but unfortunately, the studies themselves aren't linked there, so I tried searching for them. I didn't find the Anderson et al. studies this mostly talks about, but I did find this study that is referenced near the end:

Another study by Alt et al. (2021) examined the influence people’s perceptions of facial traits had on individuals’ actual social popularity and influence, building on a social network characterization study comprising a sample of undergraduate students.

Here is that study, and its abstract:

We examined whether, even at zero acquaintance, observers accurately infer others’ social network positions—specifically, the number and patterning of social ties (e.g., brokerage—the extent to which a person bridges disconnected people) and the trait impressions that support this accuracy. We paired social network data ( n = 272 professional school students), with naive observers’ ( n = 301 undergraduates) judgments of facial images of each person within the network. Results revealed that observers’ judgments of targets’ number of friends were predicted by the actual number of people who considered the target a friend (in-degree centrality) and that perceived brokerage was significantly predicted by targets’ actual brokerage.
Lens models revealed that targets’ perceived attractiveness, dominance, warmth, competence, and trustworthiness supported this accuracy, with attractiveness and warmth most associated with perceptions of popularity and brokerage. Overall, we demonstrate accuracy in naive observers’ judgments of social network position and the trait impressions supporting these inferences.

The Face of Social Networks: Naive Observers’ Accurate Assessment of Others’ Social Network Positions From Faces

Now, this alone is pretty brutal. Even people who have no idea of who you are, just by looking at a photo of you once or twice, are able to accurately predict your social status, because both your actual and perceived social status are based on your facial attractiveness, warmth, and other facial traits you have no control over. Which, btw, is another blackpill that there are other facial traits apart from just attractiveness that influence this. People love to claim that just because you aren't attractive doesn't mean that you can't be a "cool guy", giving off "chill, friendly vibes", and how they all know a socially successful guy who's not facially attractive to try to bluepill us.

Meanwhile, this study simply flatly admits that facial warmth is different from attractiveness, however, it is nevertheless an actual facial trait you can't just choose, and it decides your social status similarly strongly as attractiveness does.

Now, that alone is brutal enough, but most people here who have been reading blackpill threads and Incels.wiki would've already known this.

So, I decided to look at the studies this study is cited by, and I found this absolutely brutal and quite recent one:

White matter connectivity in brain networks supporting social and affective processing predicts real-world social network characteristics

Right from the beginning this is pretty brutal:

Human behavior is embedded in social networks. Certain characteristics of the positions that people occupy within these networks appear to be stable within individuals. Such traits likely stem in part from individual differences in how people tend to think and behave, which may be driven by individual differences in the neuroanatomy supporting socio-affective processing.

Right from the beginning, you get the confirmation that your (shitty) social status will be with you for your entire life, simply because of how you are wired.

To investigate this possibility, we reconstructed the full social networks of three graduate student cohorts (N = 275; N = 279; N = 285), a subset of whom (N = 112) underwent diffusion magnetic resonance imaging.

Are those large enough numbers of participants for the science-loving types that suspiciously dismiss all blackpill studies as having too small cohorts to be convincing to take this seriously:waitwhat:?

Although no single tract in isolation appears to be necessary or sufficient to predict social network characteristics, distributed patterns of white matter microstructural integrity in brain networks supporting social and affective processing predict eigenvector centrality (how well-connected someone is to well-connected others) and brokerage (how much one connects otherwise unconnected others). Thus, where individuals sit in their real-world social networks is reflected in their structural brain networks. More broadly, these results suggest that the application of data-driven methods to neuroimaging data can be a promising approach to investigate how brains shape and are shaped by individuals’ positions in their real-world social networks.

It's not just your face, as the previous study showed. It's also your brain. Better yet, it's your genes, the genes that predetermined you into a permanent low social status life by giving you a brain wired for it and a face to match so that everyone looking at you could immediately tell your place in the social hierarchy.

I love when people say that, even if they switched places with us, they would definitely be able to find friends and lovers, because they would still have their "kind,friendly personalities,", while we would struggle even with their faces and bodies:feelskek:. Cool, how about we switch not only faces but also brain circuitry as well? Let's see how you try to be popular with brain architecture of a permanent social outcast:feelskek::lul::feelsjuice:.

Those are the social networks they were studying, each dot is another person with red ones being those who had their brains scanned:

SocialClusters


"Silly inkwell, there's no such thing as a social outcast, everyone feels lonely sometimes, not just you:foidSoy::foidSoy:."

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

You just gotta love that type of cope, or the crazy numbers of teenagers (mostly teen girls) who claim that they are "like, totally lonely and depressed:foidSoy::foidSoy:." Meanwhile, stuff like this shows a simple truth. Social networks truly are masses of NPC normies, with a smattering of outcasts, the people who are actually lonely but who are the most likely to be attacked by normies when pointing out the fact that they have it worse than them, who are barely holding onto the few, if any, links they have with those large NPC masses.

For each dMRI participant, we characterized their position in the social network of their cohort in terms of five social network position characteristics: out-degree centrality (the number of people whom the participant names as a friend), in-degree cen- trality (the number of people who name the participant as a friend), eigenvector centrality (the extent to which the participant is well-connected to other well-connected individuals), between- ness centrality (a global measure of brokerage measuring the fraction of shortest paths between other members of the social network that pass through the participant), and constraint (a local measure of brokerage accounting for the extent to which someone has access to non-redundant social partners

Jfl:feelskek:. I've already said this once I think when talking with @Copexodius Maximus, but it's a bit crazy how much ahead of us actual scientists studying this stuff are in understanding blackpill topics like this. There's barely even any talk about social status on incel forums currently, normies think it all just comes to making some friends or whatever which they've bullshitted themselves into thinking that they can do so whenever they want (despite evidence that people mostly stop making new friends at 25 or so) and don't think much more about that. Meanwhile, those scientists looked at how many people you say are your friends, how many people say you are their friend (btw, the social bonds in the above image were solely those where both parties claimed the other as a friend:feelshaha::worryfeels:), how close to the social centre you are by looking at how well-connected you are with people who themselves are well-connected, and even split brokerage (the stuff that the face study above was talking about, how much of a social butterfly linking multiple different social groups you are) into two distinct things to get a better look at each,and to seperate the real brokers from their friends who are merely benefiting from their brokerage.

So, what did they find?

Patterns of microstructural integrity across white matter tracts in the affec- tive processing network significantly predicted individuals’con- straint (r=0.263, p=0.002, p FDR-corrected =0.010), betweenness centrality (r=0.240, p=0.006, p FDR-corrected =0.015), and eigenvector centrality (r=0.211, p=0.013, p FDR-corrected =0.026). Patterns of microstructural integrity across white matter tracts in the mirroring network significantly predicted individuals’con- straint (r=0.210, p=0.013, p FDR-corrected =0.026), eigenvector centrality (r=0.244, p=0.005, p FDR-corrected =0.019), and out- degree centrality (r=0.239, p=0.006, p FDR-corrected =0.022). Patterns of microstructural integrity across white matter tracts in the mentalizing network significantly predicted individuals’ eigenvector centrality (r=0.186, p=0.025, p FDR-corrected =0.033) and betweenness centrality (r=0.172, p=0.034, p FDR- corrected =0.046). Patterns of microstructural integrity across white matter tracts in the face perception network significantly predicted individuals’betweenness centrality (r=0.229, p=0.008, p FDR-corrected =0.015).

Well, they already spoiled it in the abstract, but basically, the actually serious markers of social status, that is, centrality in the social network and brokerage across it, as in, how closely you are to the center of it and how easily you can move across it and link various different groups (all of which welcome you, of course) were also the ones most significantly affected by the wiring of your brain, and by multiple different regions even.

It's actually pretty hilarious and blackpilling when you think about this and remember the social advice we usually receive:lul::lul:. Mofos don't even realize how blackpilling telling low status losers to "make some friends" actually is:feelskek:. Just about everyone can make at least one or two friends, as this study shows. Just "make friends bro" and don't think too hard about what you are missing out on and could never have, because while for you it is an achievement to do what absolutely anyone can do, unless you were born for it, you will never know the sweet feeling of having your social network revolving around you with all its doors opened for you to visit at any moment:lasereyes::feelsree::feelscry::feelsrope:.

And now for the last part...

Research in sociology and ecology has demonstrated that social network position characteristics whose calculation often depends on sociocentric network data (e.g., in-degree centrality, eigenvector centrality, constraint, betweenness centrality) have particularly impactful consequences in real-world social networks. These include measures of evolutionary fitness and likelihood of survival across a variety of social species43,44, as well as social influence2, professional success1,2,9, others’perceptions of one’s competence and leadership5,45, and the likelihood of becoming the target of negative gossip and scapegoating46.
It never began for low status losers.

Furthermore, whereas out-degree centrality has not been found to be heritable, other, often sociocentrically-derived, social network position characteristics have been shown to be heritable individual difference variables12.
YES, YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS.

Thus, the latter may constitute stable traits that are relatively invariant across contexts27.
NO, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

Even on this website, a lot of people think that believing that money and status matter is "not blackpilled" because "you can just gain them."

No. No you absolutely can't. There's a crapload of research showing just how much income, wealth and socioeconomic position are hereditary and genes-based, and thankfully, there's research like this into status coming out as well. No, just like a truecel can't simply become a Chad overnight, so can't a poorfag dude just gain money, or an outcast loser just become a social butterfly. It simply doesn't work that way.

Indeed, a growing body of research has integrated sociocentric network analysis and neuroimaging to demonstrate that people spontaneously encode and track the extent to which others hold positions of in-degree centrality47,48, eigenvector centrality, and brokerage22 in real- world social networks.

This links to another study which cited the first one:

Neural Encoding of Novel Social Networks: Evidence that Perceivers Prioritize Others’ Centrality

Basically, it says that deducing and analyzing social status of others is a deep-rooted function of the brain, and even when shown photos of complete strangers, your brain will quickly try analyzing the positions of each of them in their social circle, how popular they probably are, their centrality, brokerage and so on, all of which, as the first study showed, can be guessed from the face alone.

First off, shout out to and tagging @Balding Subhuman for also recently making a thread on how brain structure predicts social status (in mice, not in humans, but whatever.) Tagging some boyos who might be interested @GeckoBus @OutcompetedByRoomba @Mortis @lifefuel @Lv99_BixNood @prajeet88 @Puppeter @Stupid Clown @wereq @Epedaphic @NorthernWind @BlackCel_from_ZA (we've once had a discussion on how heritable money and status are, hopefully, this thread will be an informative and interesting read:feelsokman::feelsthink:).
 
Bump. Yet again proof it was over before it began. If you want to see proof face is everything for making friends, try making online friends then revealing your face to them. The way they treat you will completely change.
 
Kinda water since we already knew that personality is heritable. Also isn't facial warmth just how friendly you look to others (high trust look)? I am a bit confused whether it's the same thing they are talking about here.
 
Kinda water since we already knew that personality is heritable.
True, but I don't think that there were threads yet that specifically looked at the effects of this re: status and peer acceptance, plus how it correlates with face.

Also isn't facial warmth just how friendly you look to others (high trust look)? I am a bit confused whether it's the same thing they are talking about here.
That's how I understood that as well.
 
So, I just used the Scientific Blackpill page on Incels.wiki to reply to another thread on here, and as I did so, I discovered the study below the one I used as a reply and decided to give it a read:

A man's looks are significantly correlated with his popularity and peer status - Incels.wiki

Now, it's a brutal read, but unfortunately, the studies themselves aren't linked there, so I tried searching for them. I didn't find the Anderson et al. studies this mostly talks about, but I did find this study that is referenced near the end:



Here is that study, and its abstract:




The Face of Social Networks: Naive Observers’ Accurate Assessment of Others’ Social Network Positions From Faces

Now, this alone is pretty brutal. Even people who have no idea of who you are, just by looking at a photo of you once or twice, are able to accurately predict your social status, because both your actual and perceived social status are based on your facial attractiveness, warmth, and other facial traits you have no control over. Which, btw, is another blackpill that there are other facial traits apart from just attractiveness that influence this. People love to claim that just because you aren't attractive doesn't mean that you can't be a "cool guy", giving off "chill, friendly vibes", and how they all know a socially successful guy who's not facially attractive to try to bluepill us.

Meanwhile, this study simply flatly admits that facial warmth is different from attractiveness, however, it is nevertheless an actual facial trait you can't just choose, and it decides your social status similarly strongly as attractiveness does.

Now, that alone is brutal enough, but most people here who have been reading blackpill threads and Incels.wiki would've already known this.

So, I decided to look at the studies this study is cited by, and I found this absolutely brutal and quite recent one:

White matter connectivity in brain networks supporting social and affective processing predicts real-world social network characteristics

Right from the beginning this is pretty brutal:



Right from the beginning, you get the confirmation that your (shitty) social status will be with you for your entire life, simply because of how you are wired.



Are those large enough numbers of participants for the science-loving types that suspiciously dismiss all blackpill studies as having too small cohorts to be convincing to take this seriously:waitwhat:?



It's not just your face, as the previous study showed. It's also your brain. Better yet, it's your genes, the genes that predetermined you into a permanent low social status life by giving you a brain wired for it and a face to match so that everyone looking at you could immediately tell your place in the social hierarchy.

I love when people say that, even if they switched places with us, they would definitely be able to find friends and lovers, because they would still have their "kind,friendly personalities,", while we would struggle even with their faces and bodies:feelskek:. Cool, how about we switch not only faces but also brain circuitry as well? Let's see how you try to be popular with brain architecture of a permanent social outcast:feelskek::lul::feelsjuice:.

Those are the social networks they were studying, each dot is another person with red ones being those who had their brains scanned:

View attachment 1088219

"Silly inkwell, there's no such thing as a social outcast, everyone feels lonely sometimes, not just you:foidSoy::foidSoy:."

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

You just gotta love that type of cope, or the crazy numbers of teenagers (mostly teen girls) who claim that they are "like, totally lonely and depressed:foidSoy::foidSoy:." Meanwhile, stuff like this shows a simple truth. Social networks truly are masses of NPC normies, with a smattering of outcasts, the people who are actually lonely but who are the most likely to be attacked by normies when pointing out the fact that they have it worse than them, who are barely holding onto the few, if any, links they have with those large NPC masses.



Jfl:feelskek:. I've already said this once I think when talking with @Copexodius Maximus, but it's a bit crazy how much ahead of us actual scientists studying this stuff are in understanding blackpill topics like this. There's barely even any talk about social status on incel forums currently, normies think it all just comes to making some friends or whatever which they've bullshitted themselves into thinking that they can do so whenever they want (despite evidence that people mostly stop making new friends at 25 or so) and don't think much more about that. Meanwhile, those scientists looked at how many people you say are your friends, how many people say you are their friend (btw, the social bonds in the above image were solely those where both parties claimed the other as a friend:feelshaha::worryfeels:), how close to the social centre you are by looking at how well-connected you are with people who themselves are well-connected, and even split brokerage (the stuff that the face study above was talking about, how much of a social butterfly linking multiple different social groups you are) into two distinct things to get a better look at each,and to seperate the real brokers from their friends who are merely benefiting from their brokerage.

So, what did they find?



Well, they already spoiled it in the abstract, but basically, the actually serious markers of social status, that is, centrality in the social network and brokerage across it, as in, how closely you are to the center of it and how easily you can move across it and link various different groups (all of which welcome you, of course) were also the ones most significantly affected by the wiring of your brain, and by multiple different regions even.

It's actually pretty hilarious and blackpilling when you think about this and remember the social advice we usually receive:lul::lul:. Mofos don't even realize how blackpilling telling low status losers to "make some friends" actually is:feelskek:. Just about everyone can make at least one or two friends, as this study shows. Just "make friends bro" and don't think too hard about what you are missing out on and could never have, because while for you it is an achievement to do what absolutely anyone can do, unless you were born for it, you will never know the sweet feeling of having your social network revolving around you with all its doors opened for you to visit at any moment:lasereyes::feelsree::feelscry::feelsrope:.

And now for the last part...


It never began for low status losers.


YES, YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS.


NO, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

Even on this website, a lot of people think that believing that money and status matter is "not blackpilled" because "you can just gain them."

No. No you absolutely can't. There's a crapload of research showing just how much income, wealth and socioeconomic position are hereditary and genes-based, and thankfully, there's research like this into status coming out as well. No, just like a truecel can't simply become a Chad overnight, so can't a poorfag dude just gain money, or an outcast loser just become a social butterfly. It simply doesn't work that way.



This links to another study which cited the first one:

Neural Encoding of Novel Social Networks: Evidence that Perceivers Prioritize Others’ Centrality

Basically, it says that deducing and analyzing social status of others is a deep-rooted function of the brain, and even when shown photos of complete strangers, your brain will quickly try analyzing the positions of each of them in their social circle, how popular they probably are, their centrality, brokerage and so on, all of which, as the first study showed, can be guessed from the face alone.

First off, shout out to and tagging @Balding Subhuman for also recently making a thread on how brain structure predicts social status (in mice, not in humans, but whatever.) Tagging some boyos who might be interested @GeckoBus @OutcompetedByRoomba @Mortis @lifefuel @Lv99_BixNood @prajeet88 @Puppeter @Stupid Clown @wereq @Epedaphic @NorthernWind @BlackCel_from_ZA (we've once had a discussion on how heritable money and status are, hopefully, this thread will be an informative and interesting read:feelsokman::feelsthink:).
Must read worthy.
Tagging best mod @PLA1092
move this to must read ASAP! :feelsaww::feelsaww::feelsaww:

And no, this is not water wet at all for many people, as it breaks the usually confined space of "sex and relationships with women" that the blackpill is reduced to.

I especially love the diagrams showing just how insane the NPC hivemind is, how everyone is connected with everyone. The few outliers (people like us with autism and such), clearly visible. Crazy how many connections the average person, let alone foid, has.

I have always noted this and it is relieving that see that my intuition was again right.
Normies live in a different reality from outcasts like us.
Their entire life is built upon social connections, their identity, beliefs, getting jobs etc...

@WorthlessSlavicShit , I tagged you in a PM with @Mortis recently where I presented tons of evidence for things like "social skills" not being real.

This confirms what I was writing about. These NPC normies have never not been socially included, so they assume everyone is like them. This is why the "NT-Pill" persists on this forum. These people can literally not imagine having ZERO, and I mean zero social connections for their entire life.

My conclusion from studying the "NT-Pill" and discovering how social skills are not a thing + other information lead me to the belief that social life is not a choice. You do not choose to be included. People choose you, whether you like it or not.
For instance, on the r/aspergers subreddit I would read anecdotes from good looking asperger men who recounted how people would just assume they had a great social life, because of their looks.

Meanwhile these guys would spend most of their time working on autistic projects at home instead of going out.
They also said that when they reject peoples invites to social events, these same people would assume he already was invited somewhere else.
The possibility that he would spend time alone did not even occur to them.

In my personal life, I have four siblings. i have seen what happens when you are good looking enough and you try to avoid socializing. They will come and fucking get you. My brothers friends would literally roll up to our house and knock on his bedroom window and shit. It is not a choice.

Another thing that I tried to explain to my parents years ago, long before I got blackpilled, was how I would never have friends.
They said I should go out more and meet people.
I explained that I was currently in the best possible position for finding somebody to like me.

I was still in school, surrounded by 1000s of students daily for years.
If it did not happen yet, it would not happen ever.
That situation is unique in a humans life and the best time to find likeminded people.

If out of 1000s of people none like you enough to be with you, it is over.

One of these people literally told me at one occasion that when he first saw me, he thought "hopefully i am not in a class with him."
For reference, that guy was an estrogenic hyper sub human with manboobs and 15 allergies. He had a prince valiant haircut too.

prince-valiant-1954-robert-wagner-pval-004cp-bkgwtd.jpg


if this abomination thought I was beneath him, and if as you point out in this amazing thread, people can OBJECTIVELY guess your social status from your looks... holy fuck, holy fucking shit it is so fucking over for me like holy fuck, i have nothing

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I will save this entire thread and try to back it up, as I have done with other threads of yours, super great thread! :feelsaww::feelsaww::feelsaww:
You are one of the best contributors on this entire forum :feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:
 
Depressing read. What even is "you" at this point if almost everything is heritable. Seems like it can only get worse if you inherinted all the shit bits of you family.

It already was bad, and consequently made it even worse. Fuck this shit.
 
Meanwhile, this study simply flatly admits that facial warmth is different from attractiveness, however, it is nevertheless an actual facial trait you can't just choose, and it decides your social status similarly strongly as attractiveness does.
Brootal
 
Over generalizing and dismissing that people has a brain that can learn. So whatever values are attractive you should be able to learn and mimic it by enough practice. You can't change your face but you can reprogram your brain.
 
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@WorthlessSlavicShit You forgot again. :fuk:

@gymletethnicel GTFIH.
 
So, I just used the Scientific Blackpill page on Incels.wiki to reply to another thread on here, and as I did so, I discovered the study below the one I used as a reply and decided to give it a read:

A man's looks are significantly correlated with his popularity and peer status - Incels.wiki

Now, it's a brutal read, but unfortunately, the studies themselves aren't linked there, so I tried searching for them. I didn't find the Anderson et al. studies this mostly talks about, but I did find this study that is referenced near the end:



Here is that study, and its abstract:




The Face of Social Networks: Naive Observers’ Accurate Assessment of Others’ Social Network Positions From Faces

Now, this alone is pretty brutal. Even people who have no idea of who you are, just by looking at a photo of you once or twice, are able to accurately predict your social status, because both your actual and perceived social status are based on your facial attractiveness, warmth, and other facial traits you have no control over. Which, btw, is another blackpill that there are other facial traits apart from just attractiveness that influence this. People love to claim that just because you aren't attractive doesn't mean that you can't be a "cool guy", giving off "chill, friendly vibes", and how they all know a socially successful guy who's not facially attractive to try to bluepill us.

Meanwhile, this study simply flatly admits that facial warmth is different from attractiveness, however, it is nevertheless an actual facial trait you can't just choose, and it decides your social status similarly strongly as attractiveness does.

Now, that alone is brutal enough, but most people here who have been reading blackpill threads and Incels.wiki would've already known this.

So, I decided to look at the studies this study is cited by, and I found this absolutely brutal and quite recent one:

White matter connectivity in brain networks supporting social and affective processing predicts real-world social network characteristics

Right from the beginning this is pretty brutal:



Right from the beginning, you get the confirmation that your (shitty) social status will be with you for your entire life, simply because of how you are wired.



Are those large enough numbers of participants for the science-loving types that suspiciously dismiss all blackpill studies as having too small cohorts to be convincing to take this seriously:waitwhat:?



It's not just your face, as the previous study showed. It's also your brain. Better yet, it's your genes, the genes that predetermined you into a permanent low social status life by giving you a brain wired for it and a face to match so that everyone looking at you could immediately tell your place in the social hierarchy.

I love when people say that, even if they switched places with us, they would definitely be able to find friends and lovers, because they would still have their "kind,friendly personalities,", while we would struggle even with their faces and bodies:feelskek:. Cool, how about we switch not only faces but also brain circuitry as well? Let's see how you try to be popular with brain architecture of a permanent social outcast:feelskek::lul::feelsjuice:.

Those are the social networks they were studying, each dot is another person with red ones being those who had their brains scanned:

View attachment 1088219

"Silly inkwell, there's no such thing as a social outcast, everyone feels lonely sometimes, not just you:foidSoy::foidSoy:."

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

You just gotta love that type of cope, or the crazy numbers of teenagers (mostly teen girls) who claim that they are "like, totally lonely and depressed:foidSoy::foidSoy:." Meanwhile, stuff like this shows a simple truth. Social networks truly are masses of NPC normies, with a smattering of outcasts, the people who are actually lonely but who are the most likely to be attacked by normies when pointing out the fact that they have it worse than them, who are barely holding onto the few, if any, links they have with those large NPC masses.



Jfl:feelskek:. I've already said this once I think when talking with @Copexodius Maximus, but it's a bit crazy how much ahead of us actual scientists studying this stuff are in understanding blackpill topics like this. There's barely even any talk about social status on incel forums currently, normies think it all just comes to making some friends or whatever which they've bullshitted themselves into thinking that they can do so whenever they want (despite evidence that people mostly stop making new friends at 25 or so) and don't think much more about that. Meanwhile, those scientists looked at how many people you say are your friends, how many people say you are their friend (btw, the social bonds in the above image were solely those where both parties claimed the other as a friend:feelshaha::worryfeels:), how close to the social centre you are by looking at how well-connected you are with people who themselves are well-connected, and even split brokerage (the stuff that the face study above was talking about, how much of a social butterfly linking multiple different social groups you are) into two distinct things to get a better look at each,and to seperate the real brokers from their friends who are merely benefiting from their brokerage.

So, what did they find?



Well, they already spoiled it in the abstract, but basically, the actually serious markers of social status, that is, centrality in the social network and brokerage across it, as in, how closely you are to the center of it and how easily you can move across it and link various different groups (all of which welcome you, of course) were also the ones most significantly affected by the wiring of your brain, and by multiple different regions even.

It's actually pretty hilarious and blackpilling when you think about this and remember the social advice we usually receive:lul::lul:. Mofos don't even realize how blackpilling telling low status losers to "make some friends" actually is:feelskek:. Just about everyone can make at least one or two friends, as this study shows. Just "make friends bro" and don't think too hard about what you are missing out on and could never have, because while for you it is an achievement to do what absolutely anyone can do, unless you were born for it, you will never know the sweet feeling of having your social network revolving around you with all its doors opened for you to visit at any moment:lasereyes::feelsree::feelscry::feelsrope:.

And now for the last part...


It never began for low status losers.


YES, YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS.


NO, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

Even on this website, a lot of people think that believing that money and status matter is "not blackpilled" because "you can just gain them."

No. No you absolutely can't. There's a crapload of research showing just how much income, wealth and socioeconomic position are hereditary and genes-based, and thankfully, there's research like this into status coming out as well. No, just like a truecel can't simply become a Chad overnight, so can't a poorfag dude just gain money, or an outcast loser just become a social butterfly. It simply doesn't work that way.



This links to another study which cited the first one:

Neural Encoding of Novel Social Networks: Evidence that Perceivers Prioritize Others’ Centrality

Basically, it says that deducing and analyzing social status of others is a deep-rooted function of the brain, and even when shown photos of complete strangers, your brain will quickly try analyzing the positions of each of them in their social circle, how popular they probably are, their centrality, brokerage and so on, all of which, as the first study showed, can be guessed from the face alone.

First off, shout out to and tagging @Balding Subhuman for also recently making a thread on how brain structure predicts social status (in mice, not in humans, but whatever.) Tagging some boyos who might be interested @GeckoBus @OutcompetedByRoomba @Mortis @lifefuel @Lv99_BixNood @prajeet88 @Puppeter @Stupid Clown @wereq @Epedaphic @NorthernWind @BlackCel_from_ZA (we've once had a discussion on how heritable money and status are, hopefully, this thread will be an informative and interesting read:feelsokman::feelsthink:).
This seems like a more sophisticated version of Jordan Peterson’s lobster meme where he says lobsters who are higher on the social dominance hierarchy have higher levels of serotonin. Depressed people also have smaller brains that look dried out. So it’s no surprise years of rotting would also lead to changes on other ways in the brain and lead to it being a predictor. Or visa versa where a genetically structure predisposes you to a certain kind of social behaviour.
 
@WorthlessSlavicShit You forgot again. :fuk:

@gymletethnicel GTFIH.
Unfortunately:feelscry:. I was going through the list of current users and after posting remembered that I should've tagged you as well:dafuckfeels:. You and @cvh1991 as well, definitely.

Must read worthy.
Tagging best mod @PLA1092
move this to must read ASAP! :feelsaww::feelsaww::feelsaww:

And no, this is not water wet at all for many people, as it breaks the usually confined space of "sex and relationships with women" that the blackpill is reduced to.
:feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:

I especially love the diagrams showing just how insane the NPC hivemind is, how everyone is connected with everyone. The few outliers (people like us with autism and such), clearly visible. Crazy how many connections the average person, let alone foid, has.
Exactly:worryfeels:.

@WorthlessSlavicShit , I tagged you in a PM with @Mortis recently where I presented tons of evidence for things like "social skills" not being real.

This confirms what I was writing about. These NPC normies have never not been socially included, so they assume everyone is like them. This is why the "NT-Pill" persists on this forum. These people can literally not imagine having ZERO, and I mean zero social connections for their entire life.
Yup, that was one of the first things I thought about when doing this actually. I didn't reply there yet, but I did read that:feelsokman:.

My conclusion from studying the "NT-Pill" and discovering how social skills are not a thing + other information lead me to the belief that social life is not a choice. You do not choose to be included. People choose you, whether you like it or not.
:yes::yes::yes:

For instance, on the r/aspergers subreddit I would read anecdotes from good looking asperger men who recounted how people would just assume they had a great social life, because of their looks.

Meanwhile these guys would spend most of their time working on autistic projects at home instead of going out.
They also said that when they reject peoples invites to social events, these same people would assume he already was invited somewhere else.
The possibility that he would spend time alone did not even occur to them.
This shit is one of the most brutal suifuels tbh:feelsree::lasereyes::feelscry::feelsbadman:.

if this abomination thought I was beneath him, and if as you point out in this amazing thread, people can OBJECTIVELY guess your social status from your looks... holy fuck, holy fucking shit it is so fucking over for me like holy fuck, i have nothing

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It truly is. I remember one of the comparisons is non-payer player trying to succeed in a pay-to-play game? Probably a bit tame when compared to how hard this shit is, but definitely goes in the right direction to show it:fuk:.

I will save this entire thread and try to back it up, as I have done with other threads of yours, super great thread! :feelsaww::feelsaww::feelsaww:

You are one of the best contributors on this entire forum :feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:
Thanks:feelsokman::feelsokman:.

btw is this the anderson study you were looking for?

Definitely seems like it could be:feelswhere:.
 
Unfortunately:feelscry:. I was going through the list of current users and after posting remembered that I should've tagged you as well:dafuckfeels:. You and @cvh1991 as well, definitely.


:feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:


Exactly:worryfeels:.


Yup, that was one of the first things I thought about when doing this actually. I didn't reply there yet, but I did read that:feelsokman:.


:yes::yes::yes:


This shit is one of the most brutal suifuels tbh:feelsree::lasereyes::feelscry::feelsbadman:.


It truly is. I remember one of the comparisons is non-payer player trying to succeed in a pay-to-play game? Probably a bit tame when compared to how hard this shit is, but definitely goes in the right direction to show it:fuk:.


Thanks:feelsokman::feelsokman:.


Definitely seems like it could be:feelswhere:.
Thank you for the tag, I’m working right now but I’ve saved this to read later. It’s good to have real studies like this because evidence is needed to convince anyone who doesn’t experience what we do over the long haul.
 
This is one of the reasons why having a massive family us life fuel for social outcasts. Were it not for my 3 brother, and 6 cousins, I would have no friends. Having multiple children as a parent is a mercy to your kids
 
The most brootal part is that it makes sense, there is a reason why fuedal society's lasted so long with inherited titles/class and will probably have a better track record than modern meritocracy copes or the delusion of DEI. Those born Lords (chads of yesteryear) are simply better.
 
All information about your is written on your face together with your life history.
It's simply impossible to escape this reality.
There could be some nuances but first impression is extremely hard to overcome.
 
Bump. Yet again proof it was over before it began. If you want to see proof face is everything for making friends, try making online friends then revealing your face to them. The way they treat you will completely change.
SHIT AND PISS! - i did not see your reply yesterday!
yes
i can relate to that actually. And I know others too with the same experience.
You meet people online, you get along. Then more life details get revealed and you realize they mog the fucking shit out of you.
When you show your looks, they suddenly call you retard, autistic etc. and then they ghost you.

You can literally get along giga well with somebody, have great conversation, shared interests - they will dump you anyway. Face is everything. You are trapped in this meatsuit that hinders your development into a full person every step of the way.
 
Yes its extremely brutal. The physical shape of your brain and how its wired determines the quality of your life. Its just pure genetic determinism. Even if one could argue that "meh ugly people can still live fulfilling lives." What if your problems don't stop there? What if your brain is completely fucked?

Women won't understand this aspect ever. And why would they? Their brains are more wired for socialising with people. They live in a complete different reality. That, plus the fact that women are seen as the attractive gender they get all kinds of freebies from people. Nobody wants to talk to an ugly male loner. Nobody wants to hang around ugly people with low social status.
 
I've also found this in the past: dopamine receptor density also contributes to one's social status.


The researchers looked at social status and social support in normal healthy volunteers who were scanned using positron emission tomography (PET), a technology that allowed them to image dopamine type 2 receptors in the brain.

This data suggests that people who achieve greater social status are more likely to be able to experience life as rewarding and stimulating because they have more targets for dopamine to act upon within the striatum.

It makes sense. There's this another study stating that people with autism have dysfunctional D2 and D3 receptors.


Participants with ASD showed lower D2/3R availability throughout the D2/3R-rich extrastriatal regions of the dopaminergic pathways. Among these, the posterior region of the thalamus, which primarily comprises the pulvinar, displayed the largest effect size for the lower D2/3R availability, which correlated with a higher score on the Social Affect domain of the Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule-2 in participants with ASD. Moreover, lower D2/3R availability was correlated with lower functional connectivity of the thalamus-superior temporal sulcus and cerebellum–medial occipital cortex, specifically in individuals with ASD. The current findings provide novel molecular evidence for the social motivation theory of autism and offer a novel therapeutic target.


This probably partly explains why people with autism have such low social status, and why they're prone to being bullied by others.
 
I have face of a neet loser that died without achieving anything at life.
 
What exactly is “warmth”? Is that just an example of low trust vs high trust face?
 
Most brutal thread I’ve ever read tbh
 
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Nice read, an actual proof of Fate. I always suggested we are just observing whatever the fuck our bodies experience.
 
I hate being ugly:feelsrope:
 
I've also found this in the past: dopamine receptor density also contributes to one's social status.


The researchers looked at social status and social support in normal healthy volunteers who were scanned using positron emission tomography (PET), a technology that allowed them to image dopamine type 2 receptors in the brain.

This data suggests that people who achieve greater social status are more likely to be able to experience life as rewarding and stimulating because they have more targets for dopamine to act upon within the striatum.

It makes sense. There's this another study stating that people with autism have dysfunctional D2 and D3 receptors.





This probably partly explains why people with autism have such low social status, and why they're prone to being bullied by others.
Great finds and insight brocel:feelsokman::yes::yes::yes:. Saved.

What exactly is “warmth”? Is that just an example of low trust vs high trust face?
As I understood it, it's basically how approachable, kind and non-conftontational you look, trustworthiness was actually mentioned as an entire other trait.

Nice read, an actual proof of Fate. I always suggested we are just observing whatever the fuck our bodies experience.
Yup, for all intents and purposes, we are.
 
If the links weren't on the wiki you should definitely add them or pass them onto someone to add them to the page
 
Will do so as soon as possible:feelsokman:.
based af. the page doesnt really get updated as much as it should with the studies people find. When really it should be updated with new findings as often as possible. It's good to have it as a repository
 
This is one of the reasons why having a massive family us life fuel for social outcasts. Were it not for my 3 brother, and 6 cousins, I would have no friends. Having multiple children as a parent is a mercy to your kids
"Big families" aren't always strong, we can also be outcasted from them or they split off on their own
 
"Big families" aren't always strong, we can also be outcasted from them or they split off on their own
Maybe so, but it's better than nothing. I would be truly alone if it wasn't for my cousins and brothers. There's almost a sort or unspoken obligation to at least care for one another
 
What exactly is “warmth”? Is that just an example of low trust vs high trust face?
Yeah it just means, a face that signals good genetical health but isn't chad. Let's say an older granpa type of guy with healthy skin tone, good bone structure. People will trust him and assign authority to him but he has no smv to foids. This is just an example, this can apply to all age groups and different features.
 
i will stwrt ww3
 
Yeah it just means, a face that signals good genetical health but isn't chad. Let's say an older granpa type of guy with healthy skin tone, good bone structure. People will trust him and assign authority to him but he has no smv to foids. This is just an example, this can apply to all age groups and different features.
Gotcha. Do u think that’s what foids might seek as a betabuxx?
 
So, I just used the Scientific Blackpill page on Incels.wiki to reply to another thread on here, and as I did so, I discovered the study below the one I used as a reply and decided to give it a read:

A man's looks are significantly correlated with his popularity and peer status - Incels.wiki

Now, it's a brutal read, but unfortunately, the studies themselves aren't linked there, so I tried searching for them. I didn't find the Anderson et al. studies this mostly talks about, but I did find this study that is referenced near the end:



Here is that study, and its abstract:




The Face of Social Networks: Naive Observers’ Accurate Assessment of Others’ Social Network Positions From Faces

Now, this alone is pretty brutal. Even people who have no idea of who you are, just by looking at a photo of you once or twice, are able to accurately predict your social status, because both your actual and perceived social status are based on your facial attractiveness, warmth, and other facial traits you have no control over. Which, btw, is another blackpill that there are other facial traits apart from just attractiveness that influence this. People love to claim that just because you aren't attractive doesn't mean that you can't be a "cool guy", giving off "chill, friendly vibes", and how they all know a socially successful guy who's not facially attractive to try to bluepill us.

Meanwhile, this study simply flatly admits that facial warmth is different from attractiveness, however, it is nevertheless an actual facial trait you can't just choose, and it decides your social status similarly strongly as attractiveness does.

Now, that alone is brutal enough, but most people here who have been reading blackpill threads and Incels.wiki would've already known this.

So, I decided to look at the studies this study is cited by, and I found this absolutely brutal and quite recent one:

White matter connectivity in brain networks supporting social and affective processing predicts real-world social network characteristics

Right from the beginning this is pretty brutal:



Right from the beginning, you get the confirmation that your (shitty) social status will be with you for your entire life, simply because of how you are wired.



Are those large enough numbers of participants for the science-loving types that suspiciously dismiss all blackpill studies as having too small cohorts to be convincing to take this seriously:waitwhat:?



It's not just your face, as the previous study showed. It's also your brain. Better yet, it's your genes, the genes that predetermined you into a permanent low social status life by giving you a brain wired for it and a face to match so that everyone looking at you could immediately tell your place in the social hierarchy.

I love when people say that, even if they switched places with us, they would definitely be able to find friends and lovers, because they would still have their "kind,friendly personalities,", while we would struggle even with their faces and bodies:feelskek:. Cool, how about we switch not only faces but also brain circuitry as well? Let's see how you try to be popular with brain architecture of a permanent social outcast:feelskek::lul::feelsjuice:.

Those are the social networks they were studying, each dot is another person with red ones being those who had their brains scanned:

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"Silly inkwell, there's no such thing as a social outcast, everyone feels lonely sometimes, not just you:foidSoy::foidSoy:."

:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

You just gotta love that type of cope, or the crazy numbers of teenagers (mostly teen girls) who claim that they are "like, totally lonely and depressed:foidSoy::foidSoy:." Meanwhile, stuff like this shows a simple truth. Social networks truly are masses of NPC normies, with a smattering of outcasts, the people who are actually lonely but who are the most likely to be attacked by normies when pointing out the fact that they have it worse than them, who are barely holding onto the few, if any, links they have with those large NPC masses.



Jfl:feelskek:. I've already said this once I think when talking with @Copexodius Maximus, but it's a bit crazy how much ahead of us actual scientists studying this stuff are in understanding blackpill topics like this. There's barely even any talk about social status on incel forums currently, normies think it all just comes to making some friends or whatever which they've bullshitted themselves into thinking that they can do so whenever they want (despite evidence that people mostly stop making new friends at 25 or so) and don't think much more about that. Meanwhile, those scientists looked at how many people you say are your friends, how many people say you are their friend (btw, the social bonds in the above image were solely those where both parties claimed the other as a friend:feelshaha::worryfeels:), how close to the social centre you are by looking at how well-connected you are with people who themselves are well-connected, and even split brokerage (the stuff that the face study above was talking about, how much of a social butterfly linking multiple different social groups you are) into two distinct things to get a better look at each,and to seperate the real brokers from their friends who are merely benefiting from their brokerage.

So, what did they find?



Well, they already spoiled it in the abstract, but basically, the actually serious markers of social status, that is, centrality in the social network and brokerage across it, as in, how closely you are to the center of it and how easily you can move across it and link various different groups (all of which welcome you, of course) were also the ones most significantly affected by the wiring of your brain, and by multiple different regions even.

It's actually pretty hilarious and blackpilling when you think about this and remember the social advice we usually receive:lul::lul:. Mofos don't even realize how blackpilling telling low status losers to "make some friends" actually is:feelskek:. Just about everyone can make at least one or two friends, as this study shows. Just "make friends bro" and don't think too hard about what you are missing out on and could never have, because while for you it is an achievement to do what absolutely anyone can do, unless you were born for it, you will never know the sweet feeling of having your social network revolving around you with all its doors opened for you to visit at any moment:lasereyes::feelsree::feelscry::feelsrope:.

And now for the last part...


It never began for low status losers.


YES, YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS.


NO, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.

Even on this website, a lot of people think that believing that money and status matter is "not blackpilled" because "you can just gain them."

No. No you absolutely can't. There's a crapload of research showing just how much income, wealth and socioeconomic position are hereditary and genes-based, and thankfully, there's research like this into status coming out as well. No, just like a truecel can't simply become a Chad overnight, so can't a poorfag dude just gain money, or an outcast loser just become a social butterfly. It simply doesn't work that way.



This links to another study which cited the first one:

Neural Encoding of Novel Social Networks: Evidence that Perceivers Prioritize Others’ Centrality

Basically, it says that deducing and analyzing social status of others is a deep-rooted function of the brain, and even when shown photos of complete strangers, your brain will quickly try analyzing the positions of each of them in their social circle, how popular they probably are, their centrality, brokerage and so on, all of which, as the first study showed, can be guessed from the face alone.

First off, shout out to and tagging @Balding Subhuman for also recently making a thread on how brain structure predicts social status (in mice, not in humans, but whatever.) Tagging some boyos who might be interested @GeckoBus @OutcompetedByRoomba @Mortis @lifefuel @Lv99_BixNood @prajeet88 @Puppeter @Stupid Clown @wereq @Epedaphic @NorthernWind @BlackCel_from_ZA (we've once had a discussion on how heritable money and status are, hopefully, this thread will be an informative and interesting read:feelsokman::feelsthink:).
I'm very thankful that you keep tagging me. Not really posting much right now, still wouldn't want to miss your posts.
 
Bump. Yet again proof it was over before it began. If you want to see proof face is everything for making friends, try making online friends then revealing your face to them. The way they treat you will completely change.
True shit.
 
SHIT AND PISS! - i did not see your reply yesterday!
yes
i can relate to that actually. And I know others too with the same experience.
You meet people online, you get along. Then more life details get revealed and you realize they mog the fucking shit out of you.
When you show your looks, they suddenly call you retard, autistic etc. and then they ghost you.

You can literally get along giga well with somebody, have great conversation, shared interests - they will dump you anyway. Face is everything. You are trapped in this meatsuit that hinders your development into a full person every step of the way.
Yep. Never show your face if you want friends. It's that simple. I'm willing to bet a large amount of "incels" here would lose respect for you if you face revealed as well.
 
I'm willing to bet a large amount of "incels" here would lose respect for you if you face revealed as well.
i was thinking about that recently because someone made a request thread where he said we should have our real faces in avi.
Thats so fucking dumb lmao
it would start never ending civil war with everybody calling each other fakecel or chad.
 
Bump. Yet again proof it was over before it began. If you want to see proof face is everything for making friends, try making online friends then revealing your face to them. The way they treat you will completely change.
This was my experience as well. Showing my face on video with long time discord buddies get me treated differently. Everything changes after.
I get treated better and taken more seriously online, people look at what I write and say I am a great writer, articulate, intelligent, and people assume I have a lot of friends and successful. In person, it's like a lot of those traits I have aren't even recognized or people don't give me the time to get to know me. I get talked down to like I am retarded, baby talked by women. Like I had a doctor baby talk at me and go "hey buddy" and bring his hand out for a fist bump. I was already 28 at that time and paying my own bills and holding jobs since I was 18 lol.

Women are willing to talk to me online and think I am articulate, but in real life its like my mere presence irritates them.
 
Hands down the most brutal thread I've ever read, though it all makes sense. I always suspected things were like this but to see it put on paper is just sheer brutality. "Zero to hero" stories almost never happen. People like us have more in common with the homeless man under the bridge than a low-tier normie. Once you're born a loser it almost always gets progressively worse.
 
SHIT AND PISS! - i did not see your reply yesterday!
yes
i can relate to that actually. And I know others too with the same experience.
You meet people online, you get along. Then more life details get revealed and you realize they mog the fucking shit out of you.
When you show your looks, they suddenly call you retard, autistic etc. and then they ghost you.

You can literally get along giga well with somebody, have great conversation, shared interests - they will dump you anyway. Face is everything. You are trapped in this meatsuit that hinders your development into a full person every step of the way.
A great point. It's such a catch-22. "You need money to make money" can also be applied to social capital. Once people realize you're a loner and can't expand their social circle they want nothing to do with you. And there's little you can do to hide the fact you have no one. You're basically socially bankrupt and unless by some miracle someone pities you then you'll be stuck in that position for life.
 
Hands down the most brutal thread I've ever read, though it all makes sense. I always suspected things were like this but to see it put on paper is just sheer brutality. "Zero to hero" stories almost never happen. People like us have more in common with the homeless man under the bridge than a low-tier normie. Once you're born a loser it almost always gets progressively worse.
Yeah another thing about that I've been thinking about - discipline.
Ok so, correct me if I am wrong with my logic, but this does not make sense to me.

1. They tell you to get discipline.
2. What is discipline?

Applying yourself to something consistently for a long time, even if you don't like it.

And how do you get discipline in the first place?

3. By applying yourself to something consistently for a long time, even if you don't like it.

Obama Reaction GIF


So you need discipline to develop discipline?
What? :lul: :lul: :lul:

Honestly, I don't think anyone ever achieves shit. People just end up wherever they are and retroactively come up with narratives to explain what happened.
 
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Pointless thread, looks over everything. Tired of nevertrycels being surprised when fakecels proliferate for that reason.
 
We making it out of ID with this one:shock::feelsaww::dab:.
 

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