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It's Over social apocalypse is inevitable

connormacleod

connormacleod

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Women want only small percent men for reproduce.
A situation of mass male loneliness is created, where many men are without a family, even if he is a handsome man above average in appearance and height.
Birth rates are falling everywhere, even in Iran.
The average age of the population is growing rapidly, and an imbalance arises when there are few working-age youth and many pensioners.
This will create a burden on the pension system, which will not be able to cope with such a situation, the tax burden on the small youth population will increase, poverty will grow, and business will suffer.
In the end there will be many poor young people and many hungry old people.
Basic income is an illusion, no country will introduce it in real life, it's just a beautiful fairy tale. Throughout history, the elites have not given anything to ordinary people for free, they have only taken it away, history proves this, just remember the enclosures in England.
What will this lead to?
 
Cope. You will suffer in silence, just like how you do now.

There will be copes like ai and ai dolls but fundamentally you will suffer and suffer in silence.

Society will function just fine. They will encourage suicide like in Canada and Sweden.

Massive cope.
 
 
Society will function just fine.
I don’t agree.
In the current days even “rich developed countries” (uk, us, canada, australia, new zealand, western and north europe, south korea, japan, singapore, china) have low quality of life for many people because even ordinary housing become unaffordable luxury for most people.
Mass homelessness, mortgage slavery, all this indicates that things are bad.
 
NothingEverHappens
 
it will happen unlike rehab says but will be after we benefit we will either be old or dead
 
You're speaking facts. Except that "fertility rates are falling everywhere". They got a real boost in Central Asia in the last years, where they promoted radical islam instead of post-Soviet secularity.

Realisticly, as a sociologist, I see 3 main way of coping.

First way can be and is already emplemented in liberal societies, in demographics it is known as 'third demographic transition' (first described by David Coleman), they use immigration and integration of immigrants as replacement for autochthon population.

Second way implies changing perception of giving birth, effectively raising it higher than simple replacement level (conventionally 2.1, new demographic researchs show it's actually higher though). This way makes having children a duty in a society. On a whole world scale we either emplement it or die as a specie.

Third way, similarly to second, raise the fertility rates above the replacement level, however it does it through segregation and degradation. For instance, by imposing islam fundamentalism or closed conservative rural communities (like the orthodox Jews or the Amish people). This way would hurt society a lot, so it wouldn't be actually emplemented by civilised countries on a big scale.

Of course, I don't talk about raising clones or anything else that won't be possible to apply in the next 50-100 years.

Upd. the fertility rates are also quite stable in Israel
 
the fertility rates are also quite stable in Israel
Israel has a compound society. There, society is divided into different "types." For example, white Ashkenazi Jews who live by Western values do not give birth or give birth very little. But very religious Orthodox give birth very much.
 
UBI was first endorsed by a right wing economic guy, i forgot his name. It's a way for the elites to actually sustain their peasants who can no longer survive with less or long term jobs and housing and ai and automation. Without that you might get large angry mobs and civilian disobedience and even the most powerful police states might struggle in the chaos considering outside players might also get involved.

It's either UBI or immigration and replacement but that's risky and you can get a civil war anyway. UBI is the safer option imo. But it doesn't matter in the end as i will never procreate so i will be long dead before any of this matters. Even if society somehow survives late stage capitalism and consumerism will murder the environment until the planet is no longer habitable.
 
It has already began and will only get worse as long as society worships the Foid and they continue to have a sense of entitlement.
 
UBI was first endorsed by a right wing economic guy, i forgot his name. It's a way for the elites to actually sustain their peasants who can no longer survive with less or long term jobs and housing and ai and automation. Without that you might get large angry mobs and civilian disobedience and even the most powerful police states might struggle in the chaos considering outside players might also get involved.

It's either UBI or immigration and replacement but that's risky and you can get a civil war anyway. UBI is the safer option imo. But it doesn't matter in the end as i will never procreate so i will be long dead before any of this matters. Even if society somehow survives late stage capitalism and consumerism will murder the environment until the planet is no longer habitable.

I believe it was Charles Murray. Pretty based guy, openly supported eugenics.

He said to give ubi to keep the incels happy. Not in that verbiage but you get the idea. He said, give them money so they don’t overthrow the government.
 
Israel has a compound society. There, society is divided into different "types." For example, white Ashkenazi Jews who live by Western values do not give birth or give birth very little. But very religious Orthodox give birth very much.
Yeah, mentioned it in the answer
 

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