Smoking is back and it’s still cool (and deadly) ... The Guardian

[WizardofSoda]

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jul/02/smoking-is-back-and-its-still-cool-and-deadly



My comments: I would debate that smoking is deadly. The baby boomers parents smoked hardcore, and the baby boomers smoked to a much lesser degree, yet the baby boomers are dying younger than their parents did. Japan is the heaviest smoking industrialized nation and also the longest lived. The Southern Euros smoke more than the Northern Euros, and again it appears the Southern Euros live longer.

If smoking was as dangerous as they said you wouldn't see the above. It would be clear in the statistics.


Why did the boomers become anti-smoking zealots. They thought they could live forever and be in perfect healthy if only they gave up pleasurable things. Its a common belief by people through the ages that pleasurable things are sinful and unhealthy. You see similar with the normies today trying to not eat sugar, fat and salt, thinking that sacrificing those pleasures will make them healthy. The actual controlled clinical studies just don't back that up either.

It sort of goes with the normies 'just world' belief. That you get out of life what suffering you are willing to take. While in reality that just isn't true, Chads suffer much less, and get 1,000 times more.

 

[DarkStarDown]

In my cucked shithole-state in Jewmerica you can buy cigarettes and smoke them to your hearts content, yet can't even cope with weed JFL: I hate the US so much it is unreal.

 

[ecwsan13]

Based research

 

[WizardofSoda]

It's almost as if there are hundreds of factors that cause generational and geographical differences in life expectancy, of which smoking is a comparatively insignificant one, which doesn't negate all the empirical and anecdotal proof of its horrendous consequences for a person's health and quality of life.

One of the things with smoking that people forgot was it reduces appetite. Thats why when like women quit smoking they gain 30-50 pounds in the following year. The smoking was keeping them thinner than they otherwise would be. That weight gain has serious health consequences that are much worse than smoking.

There is also the amount people smoke. Its a big difference between smoking two packs a day and half a pack a day.

 

[WizardofSoda]

In my cucked shithole-state in Jewmerica you can buy cigarettes and smoke them to your hearts content, yet can't even cope with weed JFL: I hate the US so much it is unreal.

Ya they should both be legal and on private property the owners of the property can set the rules of smoking. Eg.. some movie theatres should be allowed to have people smoking and doping and drinking.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I agree, this is why heroin and meth are the most hated. They feel the best

 

[iamanon11111]

i smoke cigs since i was 14. i think it was cool back then. i still smoke but with an intent to spite the toxic liberals

 

[AnilBashir]

It's almost as if there are hundreds of factors that cause generational and geographical differences in life expectancy, of which smoking is a comparatively insignificant one, which doesn't negate all the empirical and anecdotal proof of its horrendous consequences for a person's health and quality of life.

While I agree, this was written like a cringe passive aggressive redditor

 

[Osman279]

Alcohol is actually way more damaging

 

[IncelsNeverCry]

I like cigars, cigarillos and cherry tobacco out of a cornpipe with a nice vanilla coke and some alco, very comfy way to relax

 

[Schizoidcel]

Cigs are based slow suicide method (if you can't refrain yourself and smoke 1-2 packs a day), also boosts testosterone slightly

 

[Schizoidcel]

Nicotine itself can be a powerful nootropic if used correctly, as well as a strong appetite suppressant. Fats are needed to make testosterone. As with all things, it isn't just black and white. The dose makes the poison. Even pure water in high doses will kill you.

 

[zerozerozero]

there is a laundry list of scientifically proven health benefits of smoking tobacco.

“I would debate that smoking is deadly”

Stopped reading there, you clearly have no grasp on reality

This post should be deleted I mean we aren’t really going to humor this are we?

If this site is genuinely about improving the male experience in life and bettering men this should be deleted. Don’t fuckin smoke cigarettes

bluepilled and dumb as shit

 

[TBIcel]

Tobacco boosts T and enhances cognitive function. Hence why the (((media))) is against it

 

[TBIcel]

Link and source?

Endogenous testosterone levels and smoking in men. The fifth Tromsø study - PubMed

Smoking is a risk factor of coronary heart disease (CHD), while the role of testosterone in the development of CHD is controversial. The reported effects of cigarette smoking on testosterone levels in men are conflicting, and smoking may be an important confounding factor when evaluating the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7912116/#:~:text=Nicotine%20has%20demonstrated%20neuroprotective%20abilities,76%5D%20and%20other%20neuroinflammatory%20conditions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6018192/

 

[WizardofSoda]

When looking across like a million people, what happens when people don't smoke is they gain weight year by year. This becomes a big problem as the pounds pack on. It turns out the increased weight is more damaging to health than the smoking.


Americans used to be slim when everybody smoked. Now Americans gave up smoking and they became obese. And people are dying younger than before.

 

[zerozerozero]

Link and source?

reddit reply. google it, im not going to spoon feed you

 

[IceStorm]

“I would debate that smoking is deadly”

Stopped reading there, you clearly have no grasp on reality

This post should be deleted I mean we aren’t really going to humor this are we?

If this site is genuinely about improving the male experience in life and bettering men this should be deleted. Don’t fuckin smoke cigarettes

Cope , I smoke because I want to

 

[IceStorm]

Tobacco boosts T and enhances cognitive function. Hence why the (((media))) is against it

Exactly

@30klhlvwizard @Murder Mario

 

[IceStorm]

I certainly don’t care if anyone chooses to smoke. Most of my family smokes. But to act like it’s “good for you” sure is a take. And yea, I know it helps de stress people and whatever shit it makes them feel, but it’s not good for you

Not physically but for a turbo non-NT person like me , it sure as fuck helps me mentally a lot

@30klhlvwizard @Murder Mario

 

[IceStorm]

The media is probably against it because it turns your lungs into black tar

If you smoke 2 packs for 40 years maybe

 

[IceStorm]

Tobacco boosts T and enhances cognitive function. Hence why the (((media))) is against it

@Adolf Hitler

 

[TBIcel]

The media is probably against it because it turns your lungs into black tar

the same (((media)) that is pro pot smoking which does the same thing

 

[Lonelyus]

It says it gives cancer or kills me, Im not dead yet, I can still breth like a normal person!

 

[CrackingYs]

Endogenous testosterone levels and smoking in men. The fifth Tromsø study - PubMed

Smoking is a risk factor of coronary heart disease (CHD), while the role of testosterone in the development of CHD is controversial. The reported effects of cigarette smoking on testosterone levels in men are conflicting, and smoking may be an important confounding factor when evaluating the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7912116/#:~:text=Nicotine%20has%20demonstrated%20neuroprotective%20abilities,76%5D%20and%20other%20neuroinflammatory%20conditions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6018192/

That says nicotine, not tobacco.

You're better off vaping than smoking. Cigarettes are so goddamned expensive I don't know how anyone can justify it.

 

[Cletus Longthing]

People smoke because their lives ate shit

 

[TBIcel]

That says nicotine, not tobacco.

You're better off vaping than smoking. Cigarettes are so goddamned expensive I don't know how anyone can justify it.

true but vaping does not feel the same and I was smoking way before vaping was a thing.