Discussion Should women be allowed to dress freely?

[fullofchagrin]

I think we can all probably agree that women dress too freely nowadays. Even the ugliest, fattest whores are wearing crop tops not just in places like public gyms, but even outdoors. I don't know if there should be legal restrictions because I am against authoritarianism, but either way I think this behavior is whorish and immoral. My question is: where do we draw the line? Should it be about situation/environment, e.g. it's fine to wear a bikini at the beach, but wearing a short legging to the store is abnormal. Or is that a slippery slope? Should we go full taliban as a society? Is that the only way to keep women from becoming whores?

 

[FBI]

Should we go full taliban as a society? Is that the only way to keep women from becoming whores?

 

[BlackPilledNormi]

Tbh Im hormone driven animal and I want to watch jiggly ass and bouncing titts (this is one of the few reason to walk somwhere where possibly people good be).
But I agree I dont want to see ugly or fat whores and they should clothes which covers big parts of their body.
If your interested in what is good for society you should either ban certain clothes or legalize to spitt on women who wear such clothes (which I dont support I want to see as much naked skin as possible)

 

[VλREN]

NO

 

[Beck]

they shouldn't even be allowed to dress

 

[fullofchagrin]

Tbh Im hormone driven animal and I want to watch jiggly ass and bouncing titts (this is one of the few reason to walk somwhere where possibly people good be).

One of the reasons I don't go outside is because seeing women, or happy people in general makes me depressed. I barely ever feel lonely because it's just what I'm used to and I almost never leave my house, but when I do, I feel so lonely and giga depressed and jacking off doesn't really help with that either.

 

[Wizardmaxxer]

no

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

No, freedom of wardrobe shouldn't exist in the public, except in elites.
Going back about 100 years ago, there was separate swimming sites for women with their offspring, and men. Even in these sites - foids wasn't allowed to wear whatever they want (as well as men, covering their bodies with full suits). This freedom shouldn't exist also in the schools. They also should be uniformised & gender segregated.
Why elites shouldn't be restricted from wearing whatever they wants? Because they're extreme minority. If they're weird, wearing whatever they wants, banging with everyone else, being junkies etc. - they're not doing as much harm, as regular people doing this to each other. Huxley's Brave New World perfectly described why there's need to separate lower class humans from higher.
Because harmony would be distrupted. If everyone from lower clasess wanted to become superior, then there would be world full of wannabe superior elites, who acts like them and copy even their most destructive behaviors - that's why we're living in a Fight Club scenario, everyone are failed larpers of higher social class.
We live in an unequal world, inequality existed, exists and will exists, until we won't approach transhuman transcendence state - but that's not possible without genetical/chirugical engineering of human body & mind.

 

[I_like_pizza]

I think we can all probably agree that women dress too freely nowadays. Even the ugliest, fattest whores are wearing crop tops not just in places like public gyms, but even outdoors. I don't know if there should be legal restrictions because I am against authoritarianism, but either way I think this behavior is whorish and immoral. My question is: where do we draw the line? Should it be about situation/environment, e.g. it's fine to wear a bikini at the beach, but wearing a short legging to the store is abnormal. Or is that a slippery slope? Should we go full taliban as a society? Is that the only way to keep women from becoming whores?

i dont think we should restrict anything about how a person dress cause its really not how they dress the problem

 

[four1298]

I support topfreedom because bras cause breast cancer:

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I don't know if there should be legal restrictions because I am against authoritarianism, but either way I think this behavior is whorish and immoral.

I'm also an authoritarian.

 

[fullofchagrin]

i dont think we should restrict anything about how a person dress cause its really not how they dress the problem

this is a fair argument. The problem is more so in their behavior. But it's still weird that women (who are in relationships) wear explicitly seductive clothing, especially when they do it in open public spaces.

 

[four1298]

They also should be uniformised & gender segregated.

Gender segregation reduces the birth rate. Why would you want men to struggle more to get a woman?

 

[Slut_Annihilator298]

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[Livonica_Irreale]

Gender segregation reduces the birth rate. Why would you want men to struggle more to get a woman?

Why then in countries without gender segregation and full law equality there's lowest birth rate in human history?
Aren't modern world actually teached us, that freeing the love affairs made us completely childless & dateless?

 

[four1298]

Why then in countries without gender segregation and full law equality there's lowest birth rate in human history?
Aren't modern world actually teached us, that freeing the love affairs made us completely childless & dateless?

Gender segregation hurts the birth rate because men have less contact with the opposite sex. I don't know if what you're saying is true, but even if it is true, I never said I support "gender equality."

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

Gender segregation hurts the birth rate because men have less contact with the opposite sex. I don't know if what you're saying is true, but even if it is true, I never said I support "gender equality."

Gender segregation would actually support higher bithrate - because foids wouldn't have such broad choice of men. Restricted access to chads, and limitation of encountering a men makes them less prone to hypergamy.
Remember, when you're in a groceries, and you think about buying a chocolate, there's higher chance of you buying it if there's limited choice. But when you're flooded with whole stock of all world chocolates - you're confused and eventually, you'll left the shop without buying anything.
Or you'll buy just random slop and forget instantly.
That's modern dating sites for you.

 

[fullofchagrin]

Why then in countries without gender segregation and full law equality there's lowest birth rate in human history?
Aren't modern world actually teached us, that freeing the love affairs made us completely childless & dateless?

i will have to be the soyjak here: correlation does not necessarily equal causation

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

i will have to be the soyjak here: correlation does not necessarily equal causation

It's not, but it definitely does have an influence - depends on environment.
Fundamental & "bigot" states are more likely to have higher birthrate, than liberal ones. Even with developed & not poor economy.

 

[four1298]

Gender segregation would actually support higher bithrate - because foids wouldn't have such broad choice of men. Restricted access to chads, and limitation of encountering a men makes them less prone to hypergamy.
Remember, when you're in a groceries, and you think about buying a chocolate, there's higher chance of you buying it if there's limited choice. But when you're flooded with whole stock of all world chocolates - you're confused and eventually, you'll left the shop without buying anything.
Or you'll buy just random slop and forget instantly.
That's modern dating sites for you.

What you're saying also requires you to ban dating apps. Gender segregation doesn't just reduce contact between Chads and women - it also reduces contact between other men and women.

You're wrong because look at prison. It's gender segregated yet they probably don't get impregnated often. Why would you try to make life like prison?

 

[SociallyStupid]

I like when women wear sexy clothing so they shouldn't be restricted

 

[four1298]

It's not, but it definitely does have an influence - depends on environment.
Fundamental & "bigot" states are more likely to have higher birthrate, than liberal ones. Even with developed & not poor economy

I think think you're conflating conservatism with sex segregation. Conservatives might have more children because they opposed abortion and want more children anyways. This doesn't have anything to do with sex segregation.

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

What you're saying also requires you to ban dating apps. Gender segregation doesn't just reduce contact between Chads and women - also other men and women.

If i had a power - i'd do it immediately. It's pure evil that destroyed our society - and dating apps owners are to blame for our inceldom, at least partially.
Or i'd at least - ban swiping mechanism & enforced a rule - chatting with 1 person at once. If you don't like your chat partner, then you had to ban him forever in order to find next one.

You're wrong because look at prison. It's gender segregated yet they probably don't get impregnated often. Why would you try to make life like prison?

What did you come with this statement? Does in XIX's century Prussia, or modern Islamic countries kids didn't born?
I guess, girls/women wasn't living 24/7 at their restricted gender areas, and sometimes leaves their domain to interact socially. Still - it's better, because pool of potential men was far more limited than in nowadays online & public brothels.

 

[four1298]

What did you come with this statement? Does in XIX's century Prussia, or modern Islamic countries kids didn't born?
I guess, girls/women wasn't living 24/7 at their restricted gender areas, and sometimes leaves their domain to interact socially. Still - it's better, because pool of potential men was far more limited than in nowadays online & public brothels.

Are you saying Islam supports sex sex segregated schools? I didn't know that. I'm going to assume the Amish don't have sex segregated schools. The Amish have a lot of children.

You also didn't debunk my prison comment. Why do you want to live like a prisoner?

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

I think think you're conflating conservatism with sex segregation. Conservatives might have more children because they opposed abortion and want more children anyways. This doesn't have anything to do with sex segregation.

I think projecting western political division by conservatives/liberals on countries, that doesn't operate in western system it's a fallacy. In fundamental countries there's no such thing, they have radically different mindset. That's why "democratisation" of Afghanistan and Iraq failed so bad.

Are you saying Islam supports sex sex segregated schools? I didn't know that. I'm going to assume the Amish don't have sex segregated schools. The Amish have a lot of children.

Depends on wealth of a country & type of Islam. If you have money, you can afford for more schools for both genders. Saudi Arabia is an example. Also - Amishes are quite bad example, because they're off-grid and off-tech voluntarily. They're such a minority, that overall - they don't matter in shaping culture & reality. Just a peculiar trivia.

 

[four1298]

I think projecting western political division by conservatives/liberals on countries, that doesn't operate in western system it's a fallacy. In fundamental countries there's no such thing, they have radically different mindset. That's why "democratisation" of Afghanistan and Iraq failed so bad.

Depends on wealth of a country & type of Islam. If you have money, you can afford for more schools for both genders. Saudi Arabia is an example. Also - Amishes are quite bad example, because they're off-grid and off-tech voluntarily. They're such a minority, that overall - they don't matter in shaping culture & reality. Just a peculiar trivia.

Inceldom is literally a form of sex segregation. We aren't allowed to spend time with femoids.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

NO

 

[Livonica_Irreale]

Inceldom is literally a form of sex segregation. We aren't allowed to spend time with femoids.

Wasn't you spending time with foids in school, work, restaurants, etc.? Aren't you going to a public, and see lots of foids?
If so, why are we incels? Aren't co-ed schools supposed to integrate boys & girls more, so they could know themselves better?
I guess, something failed. And i think - it's our faulty, imperfect human nature. We aren't equal, men & foid minds are designed differently, and often doesn't work with conventional logic.
That's why full equality can't work ever, until lobotomise or transcend human's brain.