Should incels strive for egalitarianism or is the hierarchy?

[AutistSupremacist]

There seems to be a divide amongst whether we should strive for this utopian egalitarian ideal or a hierarchical system. I'd be more in favor of Hierarchy since I believe it's organic amongst pretty much all social animals and it is impossible to have a society in which class or hierarchy does not exist. It is for this reason why I have come to reject the ideas of Communism since I deem them as unrealistic. However, even if this hierarchy is established, I'd want there to still be opportunities for people to achieve things and live comfortably. In India (for example) ones life was determined by their position within the caste system with the highest being priests and the lowest being the street cleaners and the other undesirables but that would be too unfair. If only there was a way to mix these two ideas. This is why I somewhat am leaning towards fascism or absolute monarchy (where the monarch takes care of the people)

 

[Sloth Vs Koala]

Egalitarianism won't ever exist, so hierarchy is the only option
We just have to help the lower classes whilst keeping the said hierarchy

 

[Moroccancel]

Every hierarchical system tends towards corruption.

Hence, either the proposal is to completely or largely eliminate freedom of choice or a kind of Darwinian anarchy where life is free for all.

 

[Limitcel]

power

 

[yeetbender.koala]

Egalitarianism won't ever exist, so hierarchy is the only option
We just have to help the lower classes whilst keeping the said hierarchy.

 

[Castaway]

There seems to be a divide amongst whether we should strive for this utopian egalitarian ideal or a hierarchical system. I'd be more in favor of Hierarchy since I believe it's organic amongst pretty much all social animals and it is impossible to have a society in which class or hierarchy does not exist. It is for this reason why I have come to reject the ideas of Communism since I deem them as unrealistic. However, even if this hierarchy is established, I'd want there to still be opportunities for people to achieve things and live comfortably. In India (for example) ones life was determined by their position within the caste system with the highest being priests and the lowest being the street cleaners and the other undesirables but that would be too unfair. If only there was a way to mix these two ideas. This is why I somewhat am leaning towards fascism or absolute monarchy (where the monarch takes care of the people)

Hierarchy with a certain degree of cooperation between the different social classes and an emphasis on merit.

 

[based_meme]

Egalitarianism may be the ideal under the law (fairness for all equally), but you cannot remove hierarchy from human systems no matter how hard you try.

 

[PureImagination]

So you think the cast system is unfair because it determines your position in life from birth, but you still support fascism which is basically a globally applied cast system on all races?

 

[AutistSupremacist]

So you think the cast system is unfair because it determines your position in life from birth, but you still support fascism which is basically a globally applied cast system on all races?

Classical fascism was never racial. You're thinking of national socialism

 

[PureImagination]

Classical fascism was never racial. You're thinking of national socialism

But all fascism evolves around is that your oen people are better than everyone else or not?

 

[lazy_gamer_423]

Egalitarianism won't ever exist, so hierarchy is the only option
We just have to help the lower classes whilst keeping the said hierarchy

 

[smegma producer]

if i get my own foid i can fuck that is only mine i dont care

 

[MaldireMan0077]

There seems to be a divide amongst whether we should strive for this utopian egalitarian ideal or a hierarchical system. I'd be more in favor of Hierarchy since I believe it's organic amongst pretty much all social animals and it is impossible to have a society in which class or hierarchy does not exist. It is for this reason why I have come to reject the ideas of Communism since I deem them as unrealistic. However, even if this hierarchy is established, I'd want there to still be opportunities for people to achieve things and live comfortably. In India (for example) ones life was determined by their position within the caste system with the highest being priests and the lowest being the street cleaners and the other undesirables but that would be too unfair. If only there was a way to mix these two ideas. This is why I somewhat am leaning towards fascism or absolute monarchy (where the monarch takes care of the people)

Hate to say it but I wish this would be put upon us. And what I mean is that many of us just wanna do nothing but complain, do [redacted], worship terrorists or mass shooters. But they dont want to do somthing about it. I had plans well IDK if its a good idea to buy super cheap super rural land to form a incel city in America Idealy in the desert of weastern Utah. I give advice on certain things. Not gonna tell all but one I mentioned was legalizing prostitution to remove womens ability to be selective and shit. Others was convincing other to trade max. But no one seems to do a anything ambitious. Look at Darth Aurelius. He had a plan for somthing that actually impressed me and wouldve excited if he wasnt banned and live in the mid west region of America. But no one seemed to care for it. That and he got banned for somthing IDK why though. But I wish we could have more ambition. Im not giving up anytime soon. But I hope I can gather some real motivated members to be more driven and form a group. And do a little more then cope.

 

[weaselbomber]

Egalitarianism is utopian and unachievable. It's not as if hierarchies are good, but they're inherent to not just human nature, but to all social animals.

 

[DarkStar]

Egalitarianism is utopian and unachievable. It's not as if hierarchies are good, but they're inherent to not just human nature, but to all social animals.

Hierarchies are just part of the blackpill sadly

Hierarchy with a certain degree of cooperation between the different social classes and an emphasis on merit.

This is out ideal

Egalitarianism won't ever exist, so hierarchy is the only option
We just have to help the lower classes whilst keeping the said hierarchy