Experiment Short or skinny, wich is worse?

[ScrawnyCel]

A short analysis between me and my chadlite twin brother, I am 5 11 but built like a noodle, he is shorter (5 6) but rather buff. In terms of face we don't look the same but no one has a clear advantage

The thing is: He has no problems with femoids, at all. Believe me i've heard...
So what I want to know is: is build more important than length? Or is it because i'm just autistic?

 

[stuttercel]

Short obviously. When you are skinny you can delicatemaxx

 

[Bagelcel]

IMO it's

Face > Frame > Height
If you're over 5ft8 ^

I'd say build is more important than height tbh, but in terms of frame what matters the MOST is:
-Your bone to bone shoulder breadth (width from shoulder to shoulder)
-Bideltoid breadth (width from shoulder deltoid to shoulder deltoid)
-Shoulder circumference at the widest point
-Pelvis circumference (at widest point)
-Wrist size

If you measure all those and you're decent it doesn't matter if you think you look "skinny" you don't and you likely just have too low BF% and need to bulk up.

 

[Involuntarily]

Sounds like your pathetic cope.

"You're too tall for me, I can't date you"

Says every girl to every tall guy.

 

[happiless]

Welcome and congrats, your first post is a very low IQ thread. Your brother has an attractive face or is otherwise an exception to the norm. Oh and being short is by far worse than something which can be fixed with dumbbells and a diet. Frame on the other hand can be an issue.

 

[tehgymcel420]

Ethnic.

 

[Not_Important]

Short ofc, skinnycels can always gymmaxx

 

[Summer202]

Short no doubt.

 

[San Salvador]

Welcome and congrats, your first post is a very low IQ thread. Your brother has an attractive face or is otherwise an exception to the norm. Oh and being short is by far worse than something which can be fixed with dumbbells and a diet. Frame on the other hand can be an issue.

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Short

 

[BitterCel]

Low as fuck IQ thread

of course being short would be worse since you could get fit anytime you want being skinny. You can't get taller at will

 

[Jockcel]

Short. By far.

 

[Bagelcel]

Short ofc, skinnycels can always gymmaxx

Skinnycels can onlly gymmax if they have
-Wide clavicles/shoulders to begin with
-Narrow pelvis

Frame > Height according to various studies when you're looking at Height vs Shoulder width to Pelvis ratio

Low as fuck IQ thread

of course being short would be worse since you could get fit anytime you want being skinny. You can't get taller at will

bRo u kEn juSt gYM, frAmE iS cOpE

Frame > height

The above only doesn't apply if OP is "Skinny with decent natural shoulder width and narrow pelvis"
Otherwise if he's an actual framecel
Frame > Height

 

[ScrawnyCel]

Then maybe I ment frame? Sorry, not too good at english. The absolute rudeness of some people here though.

 

[Akira]

I think being short is more of a problem. Some girls like lean/tall guys. Maybe work out to gain muscle? That's my current plan.

 

[EARTH]

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This guy is short on top of things. No surprise: You will never ever see proper 6'2+ guys with frames like this.

The biggest framecels I knew in school were never tall, rather, they were short. I remember this one boy he was 5'5, 105lbs, tiny arms, hands, skull tiny everything at age 17. Certified incel. Meanwhile, the tall framecels were just lean kids who would blow up in size if they ate properly.

Tall framecels are very rare and mainly occur within India, Somalia and the like:

And by very rare I mean almost never because 6'2+ is 99.5th percentile as it is in those countries.

 

[Deleted member 8499]

Frame is close to irrelevant. Height on the other hand is super important.

 

[Anger]

Ethnic.

 

[Mickeyonacid]

Short ofc, skinnycels can always gymmaxx

 

[Deleted member 8499]

Sounds like your pathetic cope.

"You're too tall for me, I can't date you"

Says every girl to every tall guy.

"you are too handsome for me"

 

[Deleted member 6470]

Short easly.
If you're skinny you can always find your way to the top.

 

[Hunter]

low IQ thread. skinny can be changed, short cannot.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

I am both

 

[Bagelcel]

This guy is short on top of things. No surprise: You will never ever see proper 6'2+ guys with frames like this.

The biggest framecels I knew in school were never tall, rather, they were short. I remember this one boy he was 5'5, 105lbs, tiny arms, hands, skull tiny everything at age 17. Certified incel. Meanwhile, the tall framecels were just lean kids who would blow up in size if they ate properly.

Tall framecels are very rare and mainly occur within India, Somalia and the like:

And by very rare I mean almost never because 6'2+ is 99.5th percentile as it is in those countries.

He has wide shoulders and a narrow pelvis, that's the MAJORITY of what you need.

True Framecels are triangular (wide pelvis narrow shoulders AND thin bones)

 

[striderhiryu]

I'm just over 5' 10" so I don't think I'm short but I'm not tall either. From the age 0f 16 til I was 35 my weight flatlined at 9.5 stone. As I got into my mid to late 30s my weight has went up to just over 10 stone but the new weight is round my belly. I would say skinny is worse, I've honestly never met an adult man as skinny as my self. I'm not even wiry, I have no muscle tone or physical strength at all. That's why I couldn't wrap my head around being accused of being angry and aggressive by a former woman boss when all I did was stand my ground a little and argue my point. You'll rarely ever meet a less physically imposing or intimidating man than me. I can even get my hand round my ankle.

 

[DyingInside]

Short is worse by far. If your skinny and your frame isn't THAT bad you can a least make an attempt to change it, but you can do nothing for shortness.

 

[BansBandit]

Skinnycels can onlly gymmax if they have
-Wide clavicles/shoulders to begin with
-Narrow pelvis

Frame > Height according to various studies when you're looking at Height vs Shoulder width to Pelvis ratio

View attachment 28378
bRo u kEn juSt gYM, frAmE iS cOpE

Frame > height

The above only doesn't apply if OP is "Skinny with decent natural shoulder width and narrow pelvis"
Otherwise if he's an actual framecel
Frame > Height

Very low IQ

JFL @ frame > height

Like a frame on a sub 5’11 manlet even fucking matters

 

[Stoiccel]

the one you can't fix.

 

[Bagelcel]

Very low IQ

JFL @ frame > height

Like a frame on a sub 5’11 manlet even fucking matters

JFL at you thinking 5ft10 is manlet LOOOL
Manlet is only reserved for those who are under 5ft8

Frame > Height according to VARIOUS studies that say that over 70-80% of your SMV is from your shoulder width
Shoulder width even came ahead of HEIGHT AND PENIS SIZE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html

Height accounted for 6% of your SMV
Penis size 5%
SHOULDER WIDTH TO PELVIS RATIO 80%

I'm not saying be a broad manlet (true manlet, not you low iq posters idea of a manlet)

I'm saying if you're over 5ft8, your frame is the bulk of your SMV when not taking face into account.
And what i'm saying is substantiated by various studies

 

[superighteous]

Give me a break, it is an insult to manlets to even compare being a framecel to being short. You’re skinny. So fucking what? No girl cares, women care much more about the face. There are studies to back this up.

 

[Heightframeface]

You're autistic. Girls flock to 6' plus lanklets if they have a decent face

 

[superighteous]

JFL at you thinking 5ft10 is manlet LOOOL
Manlet is only reserved for those who are under 5ft8

Frame > Height according to VARIOUS studies that say that over 70-80% of your SMV is from your shoulder width
Shoulder width even came ahead of HEIGHT AND PENIS SIZE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html

Height accounted for 6% of your SMV
Penis size 5%
SHOULDER WIDTH TO PELVIS RATIO 80%

I'm not saying be a broad manlet (true manlet, not you low iq posters idea of a manlet)

I'm saying if you're over 5ft8, your frame is the bulk of your SMV when not taking face into account.
And what i'm saying is substantiated by various studies

Kek. Of course of all people YOU are the only one to agree with OP.

 

[BansBandit]

JFL at you thinking 5ft10 is manlet LOOOL
Manlet is only reserved for those who are under 5ft8

Frame > Height according to VARIOUS studies that say that over 70-80% of your SMV is from your shoulder width
Shoulder width even came ahead of HEIGHT AND PENIS SIZE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html

Height accounted for 6% of your SMV
Penis size 5%
SHOULDER WIDTH TO PELVIS RATIO 80%

I'm not saying be a broad manlet (true manlet, not you low iq posters idea of a manlet)

I'm saying if you're over 5ft8, your frame is the bulk of your SMV when not taking face into account.
And what i'm saying is substantiated by various studies

JFL nice LARP, NOTHINGburger links

pulling random numbers out of thin air

LMAO at you thinking chicks care about shoulder width 13x more than they do height anything below 5’11 is manlet tier

Manlet gigacope thinking ITS ALL ABOUT FRAME BRO

 

[Felix97]

JFL at you thinking 5ft10 is manlet LOOOL
Manlet is only reserved for those who are under 5ft8

Frame > Height according to VARIOUS studies that say that over 70-80% of your SMV is from your shoulder width
Shoulder width even came ahead of HEIGHT AND PENIS SIZE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html

Height accounted for 6% of your SMV
Penis size 5%
SHOULDER WIDTH TO PELVIS RATIO 80%

I'm not saying be a broad manlet (true manlet, not you low iq posters idea of a manlet)

I'm saying if you're over 5ft8, your frame is the bulk of your SMV when not taking face into account.
And what i'm saying is substantiated by various studies

Do you think a 5‘8 ft guy with a V-type body has better chances of getting chicks than a 6’2 ft lanky guy? (Assuming both have same PSL face)

That‘s what you wanna tell us right?

 

[Deleted member 3291]

Low as fuck IQ thread

of course being short would be worse since you could get fit anytime you want being skinny. You can't get taller at will

You're autistic. Girls flock to 6' plus lanklets

low IQ thread. skinny can be changed, short cannot.

Frame is close to irrelevant. Height on the other hand is super important.

height they don't give a shit about the other

 

[Bagelcel]

Do you think a 5‘8 ft guy with a V-type body has better chances of getting chicks than a 6’2 ft lanky guy? (Assuming both have same PSL face)

That‘s what you wanna tell us right?

100%, as long as the 6ft2 guy has narrower shoulders and wide pelvis
AKA a bad shoulder to pelvis ratio...

If the 5ft8 guy has a ratio of above 1.6 and the lanky guy has a ratio of below 1.35 then the short guy would win every time.
Given face being the same and NTness being the same.

height they don't give a shit about the other

You'd be very wrong to assume that, studies show that's not true.

Obviously no woman likes a manlet, but no one wants a framecel either.

 

[Hunter]

JFL at you thinking 5ft10 is manlet LOOOL
Manlet is only reserved for those who are under 5ft8

Frame > Height according to VARIOUS studies that say that over 70-80% of your SMV is from your shoulder width
Shoulder width even came ahead of HEIGHT AND PENIS SIZE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637716/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/9979264/Size-does-matter-study-finds.html

Height accounted for 6% of your SMV
Penis size 5%
SHOULDER WIDTH TO PELVIS RATIO 80%

I'm not saying be a broad manlet (true manlet, not you low iq posters idea of a manlet)

I'm saying if you're over 5ft8, your frame is the bulk of your SMV when not taking face into account.
And what i'm saying is substantiated by various studies

what is the source of this data? foids?

 

[UBERCEL]

Very low IQ

JFL @ frame > height

Like a frame on a sub 5’11 manlet even fucking matters

High iq

 

[VisVoi]

IMO it's

Face > Frame > Height
If you're over 5ft8 ^

I'd say build is more important than height tbh, but in terms of frame what matters the MOST is:
-Your bone to bone shoulder breadth (width from shoulder to shoulder)
-Bideltoid breadth (width from shoulder deltoid to shoulder deltoid)
-Shoulder circumference at the widest point
-Pelvis circumference (at widest point)
-Wrist size

If you measure all those and you're decent it doesn't matter if you think you look "skinny" you don't and you likely just have too low BF% and need to bulk up.

Saying "Face > Frame > Height if you are above 5'8" is disingenuous. If you have to apply "if you are above 5'8" but not "if you have x length clavicles" means that height is obviously more important.

 

[Bagelcel]

Saying "Face > Frame > Height if you are above 5'8" is disingenuous. If you have to apply "if you are above 5'8" but not "if you have x length clavicles" means that height is obviously more important.

Height is more important OVERALL i agree, but if we don't account for actual manlets then it's frame.
It's not Disingenuous at all, it's just pointing something out, you're using that word out of context completely, it'd be disingenuous if i said Face > Frame > height without substantiating it with that caveat or the evidence i linked

what is the source of this data? foids?

Yes Foids, and before you say "Foids will lie/virtue signal", i agree they virtue signal when they think they're going to be held accountable/scrutinised for their decision... But these studies were done completely anonymously and they found that Shoulder width is overwhelmingly the most important male characteristic..
It's to be expected as it's a sign of dimorphism...
Shoulder to hip ratio in men is the sexual equivalent of an hourglass figure on a woman.

 

[EARTH]

@Bagelcel

My opinion:

Frame > Height only if "framecel" is included in the equation. Otherwise, 6'4 with a "decent" frame > 5'9 with a "massive" frame.

 

[Bagelcel]

@Bagelcel

My opinion:

Frame > Height only if "framecel" is included in the equation. Otherwise, 6'4 with a "decent" frame > 5'9 with a "massive" frame.

i can 100% agree with that statement @EARTH

 

[hardwiredmanlet]

It depends on how short. If you're 5'3", than any guy who looked like a concentration camp survivor could get girls over you. You can always beef up, too. You can't make yourself taller. Foids want the feeling of a tall dude, and in my experience, there are some who even like skinny dudes over beefy ones.