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Sex is Life

Kointo said:
How can you be so self aware and delude yourself at the same time?



Just the word "community" makes me wince.

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Not happening.



I guess because the concept of "delusion" requires an objective reality which doesn't exist. 

Existential debates are always very subjective.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism = This is what I believe

Search the term Absurd Hero (It might gjve you an answer)
 
WarmIncelation said:
(Repost of mine )


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[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]So is coming on incels [/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]So is vidya [/font]


[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Anything besides laying down and focusing on how much of a subhuman piece of loveless shit you are is cope. Anything that takes your mind off that misery for even a fraction of a second is a cope. Getting up to check the mail is a massive cope. Going to take a shit from stomach pains is another cope. [/font]

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I recommend just laying down in a room and soiling yourself and not eating, just focusing on how miserable you are until you expire. That is the only way to not cope. But if you fall asleep? Massive fucking cope![/font]

I agree


Facade said:
I guess because the concept of "delusion" requires an objective reality which doesn't exist. 

Existential debates are always very subjective.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism = This is what I believe

Search the term Absurd Hero (It might gjve you an answer)

Makes sense except for finding meaning in the meaningless struggle of life.
 
[video=youtube]https://youtu.be/KI25easQs2k[/video]
Kointo said:
I agree



Makes sense except for finding meaning in the meaningless struggle of life.



I guess this video explains it pretty well [video=youtube]https://youtu.be/KI25easQs2k[/video]

Whatever I'll end the discussion about this topic here I guess  just choose the philosophy that you like.
 
everything everyone does in life revolves around sex
 
Definitely not the meaning to my life. I dont want to pass on my ugly genes either. Not to mention as an ugly man if i ended up somehow getting married eventually for betabuxing or some whore looking to settle down for kids the relationship would end up in a divorce and i'll have to pay child support and alimony. Not worth it. Im taking myself out the genepool.
 
Nautica1983 said:
Definitely not the meaning to my life. I dont want to pass on my ugly genes either. Not to mention as an ugly man if i ended up somehow getting married eventually for betabuxing or some whore looking to settle down for kids the relationship would end up in a divorce and i'll have to pay child support and alimony. Not worth it. Im taking myself out the genepool.

You and I are both failures of human beings.
 
Kointo said:
If anyone asks for the "meaning" of life, then the answer's simple. It's to pass down your genes to the next generation of people that will go on to pass down their genes to people that will pass down their genes, etc. Nothing more, nothing less.

When a bluepiller says, "There's more to life than sex", they are wrong. Sex is Life. Everything else in life is just build up for when you find a mate to further your species. Everything else is meaningless.

This means that people who won't carry on our genes, like us, have no point in life. Our lives our meaningless. No matter whatever else you do, you have failed as a human being. You are meaningless. You have no point. 

It can also be debated that reproducing in and of itself isn't even a "meaning of life". Think about it. We keep producing more offspring, but for what? There's no ultimate goal for that offspring, so what's the point? Life has no point. 

Life has no meaning. Life is. It exists to exist.

Sex=life=genetics

Therefore by the transitive property of algebra, sex=genetics

Lookism proved by maths
 
"Every one of our ancestors managed not just to live for a while, but to convince at least one sexual partner to have enough sex to produce offspring. Those proto-humans that did not attract sexual interest did not become our ancestors, no matter how good they were at surviving."
 
KyloRen said:
"Every one of our ancestors managed not just to live for a while, but to convince at least one sexual partner to have enough sex to produce offspring. Those proto-humans that did not attract sexual interest did not become our ancestors, no matter how good they were at surviving."

This is a sneak peak of your upcoming thread?
 
Kointo said:
This is a sneak peak of your upcoming thread?

Yep. Pure SuicideFuel.
 
It's not really the meaning to pass on our genes since we weren't really created to do it, it's just a process, no real rhyme or reason behind it. It's better described as the function of life. Plus, at the end you're dead so it doesn't matter to you how your great-great-great grandson is doing. That said, we evolved to put sex at a very high pedestal, one of the most basic instincts(if not the most basic) we have is sex. If you don't get it, you're not going to have a very good time. While there's nothing at the end of the road, the ride is long and hard.
 
mikepence said:
It's not really the meaning to pass on our genes since we weren't really created to do it, it's just a process, no real rhyme or reason behind it. It's better described as the function of life. Plus, at the end you're dead so it doesn't matter to you how your great-great-great grandson is doing. That said, we evolved to put sex at a very high pedestal, one of the most basic instincts(if not the most basic) we have is sex. If you don't get it, you're not going to have a very good time. While there's nothing at the end of the road, the ride is long and hard.

I think I agree.
 
I realized this when I was 14 are you an autistcel

objectively there is no truth. The universe just is.
 
The system shit me out; Made me from base constituents. Now I'm a walking, talking part of a world that I can't pretend to know the purpose of.

On the surface it's reproduction and survival, but I can't assume from a few thousand years of inquiry that I know why anything is. Why should I? Experiments with predictive power and repeatable results are one thing, but all of that is tacked on to the ass of the physical system.

Wouldn't it be a tad presumptuous for me, a piece of meat caught up in this thing, to make any guesses on it's ultimate function? It'd be like a piston in your engine explaining how engines work.
 
disposableman said:
I realized this when I was 14 are you an autistcel

objectively there is no truth. The universe just is.

I realized it around the same age. I'm just sharing my thoughts.


A Good Friend said:
The system shit me out; Made me from base constituents. Now I'm a walking, talking part of a world that I can't pretend to know the purpose of.

On the surface it's reproduction and survival, but I can't assume from a few thousand years of inquiry that I know why anything is. Why should I? Experiments with predictive power and repeatable results are one thing, but all of that is tacked on to the ass of the physical system.

Wouldn't it be a tad presumptuous for me, a piece of meat caught up in this thing, to make any guesses on it's ultimate function? It'd be like a piston in your engine explaining how engines work.

Except pistons in a machine aren't sentient and conscious, while humans are.
 
Kointo said:
Except pistons in a machine aren't sentient and conscious, while humans are.

Which means what, exactly? It's important to us. We think it's a neat trick. But how do we know it has one tiny thing to do with anything; To do with the true why?

We have a consciousness bias, but rats are conscious, they're not even very far from us as far as cognition in animalia. Does that qualify them to have a say?

What makes us so special that we think we can close the book on the why of everything? Where is it written exactly that we should know this?
 
A Good Friend said:
Which means what, exactly? It's important to us. We think it's a neat trick. But how do we know it has one tiny thing to do with anything; To do with the true why?

We have a consciousness bias, but rats are conscious, they're not even very far from us as far as cognition in animalia. Does that qualify them to have a say?

What makes us so special that we think we can close the book on the why of everything? Where is it written exactly that we should know this?


It means that we can have thorough and complex ideas about more than just survival. It's what causes suicidal temptations in us.

I doubt rats are even close to comparing to the intellect of humans.

Mammals and birds are conscious, but they can't think about what humans think about.
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
Which means what, exactly? It's important to us. We think it's a neat trick. But how do we know it has one tiny thing to do with anything; To do with the true why?
We have a consciousness bias, but rats are conscious, they're not even very far from us as far as cognition in animalia. Does that qualify them to have a say?
What makes us so special that we think we can close the book on the why of everything? Where is it written exactly that we should know this?
It means that we can have thorough and complex ideas about more than just survival. It's what causes suicidal temptations in us.
I doubt rats are even close to comparing to the intellect of humans.

Right, but, who says intellect has anything to do with the ultimate nature of existence, and it isn't just some weird bubble in the soup?

I get your point about sex. For us, that may as well be it. But being part of a physical system doesn't give me privileged information about the whole system, just my little window.
 
Life doesn't have any purpose or any meaning. It just exists. Even if you reproduce you didn't "win" anything. The only reason you feel this way is due to instincts. But everything that happens just is. There's zero purpose.

I honestly don't know how people here don't advocate for antinatalism. Because the nature of sentient existence is the only reason why the people here are suffering. Females or even humans in general aren't the root of the problem. 

They propagate it through their own nature, but humans can't decide their own nature and didn't create it so it's illogical to blame them as the root. At most you can blame them for propagating it, but I see people here talking about reproducing if they were given the chance which just furthers the problem. Apparently people are blackpilled and can see the true nature of the world until it's time to reproduce. Then the world magically becomes a fairy tale experience.
 
disposableman said:
I realized this when I was 14 are you an autistcel

objectively there is no truth. The universe just is.

Sadly I realized when I turned 20, If only I knew the truth sooner
 
Fatality said:
Life doesn't have any purpose or any meaning. It just exists. Even if you reproduce you didn't "win" anything. The only reason you feel this way is due to instincts. But everything that happens just is. There's zero purpose.
I honestly don't know how people here don't advocate for antinatalism. Because the nature of sentient existence is the only reason why the people here are suffering. Females or even humans in general aren't the root of the problem.
They propagate it through their own nature, but humans can't decide their own nature and didn't create it so it's illogical to blame them as the root. At most you can blame them for propagating it, but I see people here talking about reproducing if they were given the chance which just furthers the problem. Apparently people are blackpilled and can see the true nature of the world until it's time to reproduce. Then the world magically becomes a fairy tale experience.

I actually am an antinatalist but I retired from debating it. Someone always brings up "subjective suffering" and the whole things turns retarded. Suffering can only be considered "subjective" in a pure academic sense.

If you're a thing with a central nervous system, suffering is OBJECTIVELY bad.
 
A Good Friend said:
Right, but, who says intellect has anything to do with the ultimate nature of existence, and it isn't just some weird bubble in the soup?

I get your point about sex. For us, that may as well be it. But being part of a physical system doesn't give me privileged information about the whole system, just my little window.

From what I've learned and read over the years about evolution and such things, I can conclude that there's most likely no higher goal in life.

MOST LIKELY

Of course I can't know for sure since I'm not a god, but that's like saying "If we can't see anything over there, then we can't disprove that there isn't a giant floating spaghetti monster over there"

Of course you can't disprove that, but it's ridiculous to think of such a thing in the first place.
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
Right, but, who says intellect has anything to do with the ultimate nature of existence, and it isn't just some weird bubble in the soup?
I get your point about sex. For us, that may as well be it. But being part of a physical system doesn't give me privileged information about the whole system, just my little window.
From what I've learned and read over the years about evolution and such things, I can conclude that there's most likely no higher goal in life.
MOST LIKELY
Of course I can't know for sure since I'm not a god, but that's like saying "If we can't see anything over there, then we can't disprove that there isn't a giant floating spaghetti monster over there"
Of course you can't disprove that, but it's ridiculous to think of such a thing in the first place.

Nothing has dealt a larger blow to the atheist movement than FSM, man. At first it was funny, but the message got lost. It started out by saying "the burden of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim" so we could just say "there might as well be a flying spaghetti monster."

The problem started when atheists started to use their smug thought experiments to rule out non-physical explanations for existence. Then the tide turned to the atheist/skeptic community making a very large, very unsubstantiated claim. I mean people like Lawrence Krauss going on about "vacuum fluctuations explains everything" while seemingly giving zero thought to the arena these fluctuations happen in. Why? Why should this happen? That's what I'd like to know, but am humble enough to realize I probably never will.
 
A Good Friend said:
Nothing has dealt a larger blow to the atheist movement than FSM, man. At first it was funny, but the message got lost. It started out by saying "the burden of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim" so we could just say "there might as well be a flying spaghetti monster."

The problem started when atheists started to use their smug thought experiments to rule out non-physical explanations for existence. Then the tide turned to the atheist/skeptic community making a very large, very unsubstantiated claim. I mean people like Lawrence Krauss going on about "vacuum fluctuations explains everything" while seemingly giving zero thought to the arena these fluctuations happen in. Why? Why should this happen? That's what I'd like to know, but am humble enough to realize I probably never will.

I haven't watched an atheist video in years so I just used FSM as an example from what I remember it representing.

As for why things like that happen. I don't know either, brother. It's like trying to explain why time exists.
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
Nothing has dealt a larger blow to the atheist movement than FSM, man. At first it was funny, but the message got lost. It started out by saying "the burden of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim" so we could just say "there might as well be a flying spaghetti monster."
The problem started when atheists started to use their smug thought experiments to rule out non-physical explanations for existence. Then the tide turned to the atheist/skeptic community making a very large, very unsubstantiated claim. I mean people like Lawrence Krauss going on about "vacuum fluctuations explains everything" while seemingly giving zero thought to the arena these fluctuations happen in. Why? Why should this happen? That's what I'd like to know, but am humble enough to realize I probably never will.
I haven't watched an atheist video in years so I just used FSM as an example from what I remember it representing.
As for why things like that happen. I don't know either, brother. It's like trying to explain why time exists.

That's the position of a smart atheist. I wish we could go back to saying we don't know why, but we're pretty sure it has nothing to do with the big three religions. I hope they ban Neil Degrasse Tyson's twitter. Fucking idiot, man.
 
A Good Friend said:
That's the position of a smart atheist. I wish we could go back to saying we don't know why, but we're pretty sure it has nothing to do with the big three religions. I hope they ban Neil Degrasee Tyson's twitter. Fucking idiot, man.

I like Neil Degrasse Tyson sometimes, but I wouldn't know what he posts on Twitter since I don't go on Twitter.

What are some of the stupid things he's said?
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
That's the position of a smart atheist. I wish we could go back to saying we don't know why, but we're pretty sure it has nothing to do with the big three religions. I hope they ban Neil Degrasee Tyson's twitter. Fucking idiot, man.
I like Neil Degrasse Tyson sometimes, but I wouldn't know what he posts on Twitter since I don't go on Twitter.
What are some of the stupid things he's said?

tbh I don't go on Twitter either, but his posts make it to image boards often. He just kinda joins the chorus of Dawkins and Krauss who I mentioned before of pushing faith in observation into the realm of "my wild speculations are right because I never said God."
 
A Good Friend said:
tbh I don't go on Twitter either, but his posts make it to image boards often. He just kinda joins the chorus of Dawkins and Krauss who I mentioned before of pushing faith in observation into the realm of "my wild speculations are right because I never said God."

Yeah. Isn't it kind of like how people think they know for sure that the big bang created the universe?

It's called the big bang THEORY for a reason. It's theoretical.
 
I only believe in gang bang theory.
 
Solitarian_Walker said:
I only believe in gang bang theory.

This guy knows the answers.
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
tbh I don't go on Twitter either, but his posts make it to image boards often. He just kinda joins the chorus of Dawkins and Krauss who I mentioned before of pushing faith in observation into the realm of "my wild speculations are right because I never said God."
Yeah. Isn't it kind of like how people think they know for sure that the big bang created the universe?
It's called the big bang THEORY for a reason. It's theoretical.

Well, the beauty of the word "theory" is that it's open ended. Music Theory tells me that certain combination of individual notes will make a specific chord, that's a fact, but the "theory" part comes in when I say "I could also play these notes that clash and make a really shitty chord, what is a proper chord after all?...." and so on.

So we can be 99.9999999% sure in a Big Bang model by looking at the present state and drawing conclusions about initial conditions, but we don't close the book on the mechanics of the thing.
 
A Good Friend said:
Well, the beauty of the word "theory" is that it's open ended. Music Theory tells me that certain combination of individual notes will make a specific chord, that's a fact, but the "theory" part comes in when I say "I could also play these notes that clash and make a really shitty chord, what is a proper chord after all?...." and so on.

So we can be 99.9999999% sure in a Big Bang model by looking at the present state and drawing conclusions about initial conditions, but we don't close the book on the mechanics of the thing.

Makes sense.
 
Solitarian_Walker said:
I only believe in gang bang theory.

I studied Bukake Mechanics.



EDIT: I just want to say how proud I am that my 800th post had the word "bukake" in it. I just texted my mother about it and she congratulated me.
 
Kointo said:
A Good Friend said:
tbh I don't go on Twitter either, but his posts make it to image boards often. He just kinda joins the chorus of Dawkins and Krauss who I mentioned before of pushing faith in observation into the realm of "my wild speculations are right because I never said God."
Yeah. Isn't it kind of like how people think they know for sure that the big bang created the universe?
It's called the big bang THEORY for a reason. It's theoretical.

To be fair, the BB theory has a good amount of evidence behind it. Gravity and evolution are theories too, yet they're isn't much reason to doubt either. I agree though that New Atheism fucked themselves over by acting like complete idiots, and simplifying the discussion to "science gud religun bad" when the reality is much more complex than that. It was always a juvenile movement, and when the millennials grew up they grew out of it. The truth is, we have no clue how the universe started. Does it require a traditional god? Not necessarily, but we'll never know for certain. Plus, religion is a great motivator, even if it is a cope.
 
mikepence said:
To be fair, the BB theory has a good amount of evidence behind it. Gravity and evolution are theories too, yet they're isn't much reason to doubt either. I agree though that New Atheism fucked themselves over by acting like complete idiots, and simplifying the discussion to "science gud religun bad" when the reality is much more complex than that. It was always a juvenile movement, and when the millennials grew up they grew out of it. The truth is, we have no clue how the universe started. Does it require a traditional god? Not necessarily, but we'll never know for certain. Plus, religion is a great motivator, even if it is a cope.

Yeah I didn't give it enough credit. I thought that it would have much less evidence going for it since it happened so long ago, but I believe I was wrong.
 
After all, let's remember sex is what creates life.
 
Kointo said:
If anyone asks for the "meaning" of life, then the answer's simple. It's to pass down your genes to the next generation of people that will go on to pass down their genes to people that will pass down their genes, etc. Nothing more, nothing less.

When a bluepiller says, "There's more to life than sex", they are wrong. Sex is Life. Everything else in life is just build up for when you find a mate to further your species. Everything else is meaningless.

This means that people who won't carry on our genes, like us, have no point in life. Our lives our meaningless. No matter whatever else you do, you have failed as a human being. You are meaningless. You have no point. 

It can also be debated that reproducing in and of itself isn't even a "meaning of life". Think about it. We keep producing more offspring, but for what? There's no ultimate goal for that offspring, so what's the point? Life has no point. 

Life has no meaning. Life is. It exists to exist.
I have the exact same worldview.
 

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