Discussion Sex is inherently patriarchal

[Homegrownman326]

With the sexual revolution and feminism came the idea that sex is an equal transaction between two parties. There wasn't one party dominating another. This Liberal notion is fundamentally incorrect for simple reasons.

1. The male penetrates the female; this is basic, but the mere fact alone is already a major power imbalance. The female is inherently being dominated by this alone. (We're talking about normal heterosexual sex here, nothing weird)

2. The consequence of sex without contraceptives for women is pregnancy. It's the female who is burdened in the long term as a result of sex, not the male. Pregnancy is a lasting mark of male domination on the female body, and it obstructs female agency. \

3. Human females evolved to be hypergamous, requiring males to be more dominant and capable than they are, which inherently puts them at male mercy.

How anyone can think there's an equal power balance in heterosexual sex is beyond me; it's clearly a feminist cope for wanting to ride the chad cock carousel without losing their "dignity". Many such cases. A real feminist would be very sexually prudent.

 

[FBI]

With the sexual revolution and feminism came the idea that sex is an equal transaction between two parties. There wasn't one party dominating another. This Liberal notion is fundamentally incorrect for simple reasons.

1. The male penetrates the female; this is basic, but the mere fact alone is already a major power imbalance. The female is inherently being dominated by this alone. (We're talking about normal heterosexual sex here, nothing weird)

2. The consequence of sex without contraceptives for women is pregnancy. It's the female who is burdened in the long term as a result of sex, not the male. Pregnancy is a lasting mark of male domination on the female body, and it obstructs female agency. \

3. Human females evolved to be hypergamous, requiring males to be more dominant and capable than they are, which inherently puts them at male mercy.

How anyone can think there's an equal power balance in heterosexual sex is beyond me; it's clearly a feminist cope for wanting to ride the chad cock carousel without losing their "dignity". Many such cases. A real feminist would be very sexually prudent.

I like you because you actually put effort into your posts, unlike most of what passes for discussion here. I agree with you that sex is inherently patriarchal, but what is inherent is not always what we see in practice today.

Take access, for example. Women now hold more power over it. Men can want sex all they like, but it only happens if the woman allows it (yes, a man can force it, but that is socially condemned and, in most developed societies, illegal).

The same shift can be seen with pregnancy. It once represented a lasting form of male dominance, but now it can just as easily become leverage for women. They can use it to secure commitment, extract resources, or even control a man's future through custody.

So while sex may be inherently patriarchal, I would argue that if there is domination today, it is not men over women in sex, but women over men in who gets to have it.

 

[Homegrownman326]

So while sex may be inherently patriarchal, I would argue that if there is domination today, it is not men over women in sex, but women over men in who gets to have it.

I was talking about the act of sex itself, not what leads to it.

 

[FBI]

I was talking about the act of sex itself, not what leads to it.

I know you were talking about the act itself, and I already agreed with you there. My point was not to deny that but to add how things look in practice today. Yes, penetration and pregnancy make sex inherently patriarchal, but the surrounding social and legal framework has flipped much of that dynamic. That is why I pointed out how women now control access and can leverage pregnancy, not to argue against you but to give the broader context and hopefully push the discussion further.