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Serious Seriously, how do most guys get their first kiss and lose their virginity? How did we end up kissless virgins?

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How is getting laid that easy for most people and we never manage to even get a girlfriend. What made us involuntarily celibate? What did we do wrong?

I don’t understand how something is so difficult yet achieved by most people.
 
Dunno about virginity.
As far as kissing goes, I remember that in middle school I had a high tier normie buddy whose dad was filthy rich. So I'd hang out at his place for parties and stuff.
We had that kissing game where a random guy and a random foid get locked in a closet and are only released after having kissed, with a second foid witnessing the kiss so that people don't "cheat".

Could have easily had a kiss if I hadn't been so fucking socially retarded that time :feelsrope:
 
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Because they were good looking enough when they were younger. It's over for KKHV oldcels.
 
Dunno about virginity.
As far as kissing goes, I remember that in middle school I had a high tier normie buddy whose das was filthy rich. So I'd hang out at his place for parties and stuff.
We had that kissing game where a random guy and a random foid get locked in a closet and are only released after having kissed, with a second foid witnessing the kiss so that people don't "cheat".

Could have easily had a kiss if I hadn't been so fucking socially retarded that time :feelsrope:
I rarely ever went to parties in my teen years. I’m in my early 20s and I never get to go to parties. In elementary school I got to go to parties all the time.
 
jfl most people are not "easily getting laid". They are larping to fit in and seem "cool". Some normtards dedicate their whole lives to pretending they get laid & relationships.
 
Jfl a lot of the guys i know lost their virginity via escortcelling
 
jfl most people are not "easily getting laid". They are larping to fit in and seem "cool". Some normtards dedicate their whole lives to pretending they get laid & relationships.
Normies are all obsessed with looking cool and being socially accepted, most of them are insecure virgins but would never accept their realities as incels as most of them are simply incels in denial
 
Most normies have a big social circle with foids, they do stuff together and yeah... you know how it ends.
I'm alienated, no one ever accepted me fully.
 
Normies are all obsessed with looking cool and being socially accepted, most of them are insecure virgins but would never accept their realities as incels as most of them are simply incels in denial
Yeah a lot of normies at my school are like this.
 
The opportunity just never came up. Personally for me, I would asked out girls but get rejected. I’d go to social events and get ignored and ostracized. Eventually I just quit being social after highschool and then that has snowballed into me being completely socially isolated.

Once you are socially isolated and out of college and highschool, it’s nearly impossible to make social connections. I’ve went to a few meetups but most people my age are progressive liberals and I can’t stand being around them. I went to a table top gaming meetup and it was like walking into a inceltears meetup, trannies included.

Now I’m older and all my health issues and poor life choices are catching up to me. I doubt I will ever be a normal person, most likely will die a virgin.
 
How is getting laid that easy for most people and we never manage to even get a girlfriend. What made us involuntarily celibate? What did we do wrong?

I don’t understand how something is so difficult yet achieved by most people.
this is a great question and i think the answer is genuine attraction, young people are awkward in these situations and all of that, but if they both like each other equally things will eventually happen, and after that they arent as shy in these situations and they learn to read all the ques, we on the other hand have never exepiernced these things because no one is geniually atracted to us, if we want a woman it would have to be by putting ourselves out there and waiting for her to "rescue us"
 
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Face, my lad, face.
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I dont even know how the hell you'd go about losing your KTH cards.

Do you just ask the foids if you can kiss/touch/hold hands?

This is why I say if you didnt do well in Highschool, you're socially stunted and doomed for life.
Unless you were a severely high inhib Chad.

this is a great question and i think the answer is genuine attraction, young people are awkward in these situations and all of that, but if they both like each other equally things will eventually happen, and after that they arent as shy in these situations and they learn read all the ques, we on the other hand have never exepiernced these things
 
How is getting laid that easy for most people and we never manage to even get a girlfriend. What made us involuntarily celibate? What did we do wrong?

I don’t understand how something is so difficult yet achieved by most people.
We do nothing wrong. First kiss maybe of diffent kind.... And dont forget that people are braging.
 
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I dont even know how the hell you'd go about losing your KTH cards.

Do you just ask the foids if you can kiss/touch/hold hands?

This is why I say if you didnt do well in Highschool, you're socially stunted and doomed for life.
Unless you were a severely high inhib Chad.
No never asked
 
If you think about it, it almost seems impossible to fail so hard at life .
 
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By being both unattractive and socially inept tbh. KHH should be gone by the end of middle school, and your virginity by the end of high school, or something in that ball park, it's hard to tell since normies lie about it a lot.
 
First of all, I'm buttfuck ugly, which kind of destroys my chances for kisses and sex as women simply do not see me as a potential sexual partner. Plus, I attended high school with a technical specialization (it's still a thing in Eastern Europe) that was almost 100% male due to its rather demanding curriculum and as a result, I now work in a male dominated field. Most people hook up in high school, college or at work, if they are still single post-Uni but due to my education and my job my social circle consists of other low-status ugly males like myself with no single women available. Nowadays, the only sociably acceptable matching services are dating apps and those are Chad's hunting grounds were subhumans like have no chance whatsoever of getting anything. My present status as a kissless, handholdless, hugless virgin is due to my sub-par looks, my upbringing and my field of work. The game was rigged from the start and I made some bad rolls on the genetic lottery while I was still in my mother's womb.
 
I had got a peck on the cheek when I was 15. Second time I went to "see" her I got cucked by a rich ass chad guy. I was close but not close enough sadly...
 
Having hapa features and crooked teeth
 
Growing up I was extremely sheltered and micromanaged. While I fantasized about the teenage roasties in high school, I was too terrified of the wrath of my super religious dad to act upon my normal teen urges (the Christian sect I was raised in is against premarital sex)
I lived at home during college, and it was the same scenario.
By the time I reached financial independence, it was too late. The critical courting skills that normies learn in their teen years was never learned by me.
Now I’m older but foids are turned off by the fact that I’ve never had a relationship
Being a manlet prone to weight gain didn’t help either.
 
Growing up I was extremely sheltered and micromanaged. While I fantasized about the teenage roasties in high scho....

I felt the social pressure to compete, to have a good grades, to behave properly, to dress according to codex. Also our school ban all social events, no school trips, no after school party or whatever. Out of my 16 classmates there are 4 virgins i know about for sure at 27.
 
Growing up I was extremely sheltered and micromanaged. While I fantasized about the teenage roasties in high school, I was too terrified of the wrath of my super religious dad to act upon my normal teen urges (the Christian sect I was raised in is against premarital sex)
I lived at home during college, and it was the same scenario.
By the time I reached financial independence, it was too late. The critical courting skills that normies learn in their teen years was never learned by me.
Now I’m older but foids are turned off by the fact that I’ve never had a relationship
Being a manlet prone to weight gain didn’t help either.
I have liberal atheist parents who constantly encouraged me to take part in "socialising" and "hitting on girls". I am a KHV nontheless. Upbringing and diet are both secondary to bone structure and neurology.
 
We were born with the wrong density of bones
 
I have liberal atheist parents who constantly encouraged me to take part in "socialising" and "hitting on girls". I am a KHV nontheless. Upbringing and diet are both secondary to bone structure and neurology.
Neurology, are you serious? Soft tissues are way higher on the totem pole than neurology, and I'm an autist.
 
I felt the social pressure to compete, to have a good grades, to behave properly, to dress according to codex. Also our school ban all social events, no school trips, no after school party or whatever. Out of my 16 classmates there are 4 virgins i know about for sure at 27.
Sounds great. But perhaps this is a case of 'grass is greener on the other side' effect. My early youth was pure chaos, I longed and still do, for order and discipline.
 
We had that kissing game where a random guy and a random foid get locked in a closet and are only released after having kissed, with a second foid witnessing the kiss so that people don't "cheat".

Sounds like a movie.
 
I went to an all boys school. The chads had parties with femoids from other schools, but I was never invited. So I spent 11-18 years of age with basically no female interaction. Plus even if I had been invited to said parties, my ultra-socially conservative parents would never have let me go to something taking place so late in the day where it's presumed there'd be alcohol.
 
I have liberal atheist parents who constantly encouraged me to take part in "socialising" and "hitting on girls". I am a KHV nontheless. Upbringing and diet are both secondary to bone structure and neurology.

That is depressingly true.

I’m sure you agree that a boy raised in the most sheltered of sheltered environments will slay if he’s “blessed” with good facial structure. If I was anywhere near decent looking foids would have forgiven my lack of experience
 
Dunno about virginity.
As far as kissing goes, I remember that in middle school I had a high tier normie buddy whose dad was filthy rich. So I'd hang out at his place for parties and stuff.
We had that kissing game where a random guy and a random foid get locked in a closet and are only released after having kissed, with a second foid witnessing the kiss so that people don't "cheat".

Could have easily had a kiss if I hadn't been so fucking socially retarded that time :feelsrope:
Thanks for suifuel :cryfeels:
 
Most guys are brugging
No one needs rotten apple when you can get fresh one.
No one fucks personality.
For personality friendship is enough
 
In my situation it was because I didn't go to nightclubs as a teenager as I am autist, if I did I may have got kiss from girl but it wouldn't have resulted in relationship, I'm 100% sure of that
That is depressingly true.

I’m sure you agree that a boy raised in the most sheltered of sheltered environments will slay if he’s “blessed” with good facial structure. If I was anywhere near decent looking foids would have forgiven my lack of experience

There was a documentary on BBC about a student from Iraq or somewhere who moved to USA to study and he slayed because the girls viewed his sheltered background as a novelty, however a girl accused him of rape and that's what the documentary was about.
 
most of my normie ex-friends lost V card to hookers only solid 7/10 had a gf back then
 
By being both unattractive and socially inept tbh. KHH should be gone by the end of middle school, and your virginity by the end of high school, or something in that ball park, it's hard to tell since normies lie about it a lot.
 
By being at least average looking and NT. Seriously, normies only ascend through social circles. It's the norm at that age.
 
It's really all facial-cranial bone structure, that's all it is. Midgets probably cant comprehend what it's like to play in the NBA for the same reason.
 
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I dont even know how the hell you'd go about losing your KTH cards.

Do you just ask the foids if you can kiss/touch/hold hands?

This is why I say if you didnt do well in Highschool, you're socially stunted and doomed for life.
Unless you were a severely high inhib Chad.
"severely high inhib chad" is an oxymoron
 
I think for most men it just kind of happens if you have a social circle and a minimum level of looks.
 
Also, this is the same concept as poor getting poorer vs. rich getting richer. The neurotypical, attractive normies start very early (middle school) and just keep building and building up their connections and confidence and looks, while everyone else gets more unconfident and isolated.
 
Because we ugly and lacked the social skills and circle to obtain foids
 
I just never had any females show interest in me at any point in my life, not as a child, not as a older child, not as a young teen, not as a middle-age teen, not as a older teen, and also never in my early 20s, or never in my mid 20s, and never in my late 20s.

Now aged 32 soon.
 

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