Theory [Serious][Blackpill][Discussion]What is degeneracy?

[based_meme]

Something that's considered degenerate to one person may not be to another. The default is to use one's own moral systems and ethical foundations to make evaluative claims on what makes a thing or act degenerate, and since moral systems and ethical foundations are not objective or universally absolute, we cannot definitively conclude that a thing or act is degenerate using moral reasoning. We must, therefore, appeal to different bases to make that determination.

The primary basis for determining whether or not a thing or act is degenerate must be, at minimum, teleological, and any appeals to moral systems in evaluating for degeneracy must adhere to its (thing or act) purpose or function. Moral reasoning is then superimposed on the teleological foundation. From here, we can also begin evaluate the degree to which a thing or act is degenerate. When a thing or act deviates from its intended purpose or function it runs the risk of shifting categories and becoming something different. For example, cuckoldry is considered degenerate, because the primary function of a male-female union is to have and raise offspring. However, when a man willingly engages in this behavior, he is actively undermining and working against his own evolutionary success by allowing his mate (failure to mate guard) to carry the DNA of another male and then investing his own time and resources in propagating that DNA. He is, in effect, less of a man, and the purpose of his union with his mate serves an alternative purpose, namely his own pleasure and ego.

Gambling is another example (sociological) of degenerate behavior. The primary function of acquiring resources (money) is to sustain your life and the lives of other members of your clan or tribe, more specicially you own family. By partaking in games of chance and frivolous risk-taking, you are undermining your own ability to perform this function - sometimes neutering that function altogether.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Sexual liberalism is the start of degeneracy imo

 

[Indari]

Sexual liberalism is the start of degeneracy imo

I lost my car. cant find it

 

[LeFrenchCel]

I lost my car. cant find it

Sandnigs stole it

 

[based_meme]

Sexual liberalism is the start of degeneracy imo

The philosophical foundations for sexual liberalism is what ultimately leads to degeneracy. The prioritization of the self and the emphasis on hedonistic ideals, coupled with conceptions of autonomy and the parsing of various other philosophical positions, such as libertarianism and utilitarianism, to suit the multitude of various personalized worldviews under the auspices of ideologies like feminism and liberalism itself is what leads to degeneracy when we take such philosophies and ideologies to their logical endpoints.

 

[weaselbomber]

Sexual liberalism is the start of degeneracy imo

i think that if you want to pinpoint a specific period where it all begins, I think the Enlightenment is it. The way they treated absolutely everything before them as barbaric, delusionally religious, anti-intellectual nonsense (none of which were true), creating myths like the "dark ages" (ignoring Carolingian and Ottonian rennaissances, and the fact that their precious pre-Christian Roman books only exist because of them), pretty much opened the floodgates to the borderline suicidal and self-hating behaviour the West engages in

 

[based_meme]

I lost my car. cant find it

Sandnigs stole it

[Serious][Discussion], you fucking niggers.

 

[kay']

Anything outside the intended use of a dick and vagina which is penetration to impregnate and have kids is degeneracy.

And it comes in degrees.

But not like i care anymore everyone is degenerate if not in public then in private so who fucking cares nothing matters and we re all gona die and in out of cigs tbh.

 

[based_meme]

i think that if you want to pinpoint a specific period where it all begins, I think the Enlightenment is it. The way they treated absolutely everything before them as barbaric, delusionally religious, anti-intellectual nonsense (none of which were true), creating myths like the "dark ages" (ignoring Carolingian and Ottonian rennaissances, and the fact that their precious pre-Christian Roman books only exist because of them), pretty much opened the floodgates to the borderline suicidal and self-hating behaviour the West engages in

The pendulum began to swing in the opposite direction during the Enlightenment, and now it has swung completely on the opposite side. We are experiencing the start of a cultural pushback to this with the rejection of feminism becoming more mainstream, as evidenced by the fad of social media whores adopting the "trad" meme.

Anything outside the intended use of a dick and vagina which is penetration to impregnate and have kids is degeneracy.

And it comes in degrees.

But not like i care anymore everyone is degenerate if not in public then in private so who fucking cares nothing matters and we re all gona die and in out of cigs tbh.

The issue is that it is, in fact, now in public. Crossdressers, homosexuals, and transexuals no longer used to engage in their deviancy and degeneracy behind closed doors. They now parade themselves nude in front of everyone and indoctrinate children with transexual and homosexual propaganda. Their degeneracy is having detrimental effects on society and has changed the culture to the point where rejection of their degeneracy is equated with bigotry.

 

[kay']

The pendulum began to swing in the opposite direction during the Enlightenment, and now it has swung completely on the opposite side. We are experiencing the start of a cultural pushback to this with the rejection of feminism becoming more mainstream, as evidenced by the fad of social media whores adopting the "trad" meme.


The issue is that it is, in fact, now in public. Crossdressers, homosexuals, and transexuals no longer used to engage in their deviancy and degeneracy behind closed doors. They now parade themselves nude in front of everyone and indoctrinate children with transexual and homosexual propaganda. Their degeneracy is having detrimental effects on society and has changed the culture to the point where rejection of their degeneracy is equated with bigotry.

Yea, and we cant stop it anyways so best you can do is just ignore them and if you have kids to teach them to ignore them too.

But because we give them attention they got this far.

Im sure there is an agenda being pushed but im not sure why and whats the end goal. Maybe normalizing pedophilia is the end goal. I mean they have a suicide rate of 41% jfl just ignore them.

If everybody ignores them then they ll either kill themselves even more or realize their mistake.

You can look at r/detrans alot of these brainwashed retards are also waking up.

Alot of normal people exist and are fed up with them, thats also why trump is winning, so its not as horrible in countries other than jewmerica.

vote right and hope for the best, eventho i do not agree with right policies either but they are still better than looney troons world.

 

[Rationalizer1999]

For me, is basically everything that can't sustain a society for long terms, just like water penetrating the cake's integrity. The problem is defining the society without digenic parameters that starts within itself centuries ago (we can always leaf through factors until reach human behavior or humanity itself), or at the point where it's started to hurt the social cohesion, particularly in such a way that could not retain inevitable entropic features; this is where the cake can't return the original form after dry. Liberalism and democracy are indeed the embryo of sexual liberation, but, from a fatalist perspective deriving from a teleological-macrohistoric view, they are also inevitable just as many susceptible factors from before because of Hegelian dialect (although I don't endorse everything he said or apply this for all the cases).

This leads me to think about adaptation (fascist-style government without all conquest bullshit that lead to self-destructive wars), whereby modern society can make reconciliation between moral and technology, allowing a half-term in which we can define a "do not cross" line along deleterious social outcomes, like political contestation and resulting entropic social division. Therefore, sexual liberation is my best guess on where to get start, yet we can advance this viewpoint to the informational capitalism and women entering workforce or regress, with that-people-you-may-known ruling class worried just with their pockets before deciding to be social engineers. Keep in mind that every problem intensified after Internet and social media, so this is also one endpoint to define exactly what causes degeneracy (even inceldom, considering hypergamy a natural thing that wouldn't be harsh without that).

 

[Rationalizer1999]

so its not as horrible in countries other than jewmerica.

Have you ever heard about Europe, Japan, SK and Latin America? The alphabetic LGBTHIV+ self-titled and infected "queer" people aren't the only problem we globally face. Now, fags and dykes (the "big shoes") practicing public fellatio only a sum; and if fags were the only problem... My country is becoming just like Mexico, flooded with criminals and feminists that we can't put in a wall and pull the trigger because "muh democracy" and many others leftist tendencies pushed by USA media and their Foreign Affairs policy. The same for socialists ruling the economy, minority agenda, egalitarianism and birth rate (women laboring), etc.

I know maybe you are just talking about that because of the quote, but nobody have specified other "politic agent" after it, and this is also valid for the responded, giving me the feeling of being copper while ignoring other issues. For OP: anti-feminist trends will not solve the simps, whoring and birth rate problems. This is just women being women and noticing new ways of getting attention.

 

[PixyBLACKPOWER]

Degeneracy= anything I don’t like
Pure and virtuous= anything I do like

I’m not being sarcastic btw

 

[Med Amine]

its everything i do when i open my 5 gb folder of toddler's pics

 

[ResidentHell]

The default is to use one's own moral systems and ethical foundations to make evaluative claims on what makes a thing or act degenerate, and since moral systems and ethical foundations are not objective or universally absolute, we cannot definitively conclude that a thing or act is degenerate using moral reasoning. We must, therefore, appeal to different bases to make that determination.

Agreed, this is why I don't like to describe neoliberal foid behavior as "degenerate". Anyone who has a notion of what represents "degeneracy" would necessarily have a conscious or sub-conscious notion of morality. Plus as foid behavior is now normalized in society, it wouldn't make sense for me to describe them as "deviant" either. Moreover I am neither pro-social nor pro-life. I do not believe there is a "right" or "wrong" way for people to act; I do not impose or project "ideals" onto people.I have no notion of morality. I only dislike the dishonest nature of "gaslighting" and people spewing "bluepills"

If the world were to be destroyed by a supernova today, I would not care. I hope for nothing; I only bear thoughts of malice and hatred. Like Bruce Wayne's butler said, "There's some people who just want to watch the world burn". I am very close to being one of those people. The only difference is that I wouldn't feel disappointment if I don't live long enough to see it happen, and I may not try to make it happen. But I'd only prefer to see it happen, if it ever happens. I am not an advocate of cuckoldry, and TBH I think I would prefer a patriarchal society over a gynocentric society, but only for reasons to do with preference. I do not share the same values as normies AFAIK. So there is no halfway point for me and normies to establish an alliance for a common cause

Normies are largely white knights or bluepilled bots. This alone is enough to create the socio-philosophical schism between me and them