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This guy echoes what I believe about this dumbass movement. Not busting a nut is not going to make you more attractive to women or increase your energy levels. All of that is bullshit. The men who get laid the most in this world are desirable Chads and high status men. Nofap is mostly a cope for porn-addicted men who do it because they think it will get them laid. JFL. Keep coping. The reason you were able to get more done on nofap is because you've stopped watching porn for hours, silly.



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Its not bullshit. When I was on nofap I thought about sex/women less and had better control of my urges
Also Watching porn makes you more likely to buy it/buy onlyfans.
 
Take it as you will but a reduction in masturbatory activities or just complete cut from that habit itself does improve a person’s well being. You are essentially arguing against the abuse of dopamine and the major effects that will compound if you masturbate for many years, but your point is right, being that the whole practice to just get girls is a sham, since I myself was convinced that it was true, but the result didn’t show, however, I did feel less picked on when I didn’t masturbate for long periods than I did during school, whether it was based on elevated T levels that supported this or something else idk but I had done and checked it time to time to reassure this wasn’t slightly false, but I’m for certain some link is there based on hormones alone in the general perceived nature of normgroids to not annoy me as much. Maybe it’s cope but that’s what I received from doing NoFap for a long period.
 
Its not bullshit. When I was on nofap I thought about sex/women less and had better control of my urges
Also Watching porn makes you more likely to buy it/buy onlyfans.

I swear this has to be the most "not on purpose" troll post I've ever seen in my entire life, I would first assume you are trolling but I think I can recall a bit of your post history, and you actually are that stupid, it isn't trolling, you are quite genuine with the nonsense you are saying right now :feelskek:

But the average person reading this would think you are trolling and these ridiculous statements are like this on purpose

1. Your first statements makes no sense at all, if you are used to having orgasms, and then you stop "nofap" you aren't going to think about sex less, you are going to think about it more (more like you were doing NoT rather than NoFap lol, let me guess, you are in your 30's, was I right?)

2. Every single person I know who watches porn (including myself) just downloads the HD stuff for free, and veteran porn users no where to get the good shit in HD, they know all the sites and torrent forums, they guys paying for onlyfans are in a completely different category, they aren't paying for "porn", they are paying for "a connection", a woman who messages them back and performs specific sexual acts/poses on their behalf, they are looking for a "pseudo relationship"

Guys who just want to jerk off don't pay for onlyfans, chaturbate, etc, they simply download porn (or stream it)
 
I swear this has to be the most "not on purpose" troll post I've ever seen in my entire life, I would first assume you are trolling but I think I can recall a bit of your post history, and you actually are that stupid, it isn't trolling, you are quite genuine with the nonsense you are saying right now :feelskek:

But the average person reading this would think you are trolling and these ridiculous statements are like this on purpose

1. Your first statements makes no sense at all, if you are used to having orgasms, and then you stop "nofap" you aren't going to think about sex less, you are going to think about it more (more like you were doing NoT rather than NoFap lol, let me guess, you are in your 30's, was I right?)

2. Every single person I know who watches porn (including myself) just downloads the HD stuff for free, and veteran porn users no where to get the good shit in HD, they know all the sites and torrent forums, they guys paying for onlyfans are in a completely different category, they aren't paying for "porn", they are paying for "a connection", a woman who messages them back and performs specific sexual acts/poses on their behalf, they are looking for a "pseudo relationship"

Guys who just want to jerk off don't pay for onlyfans, chaturbate, etc, they simply download porn (or stream it)
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however, I did feel less picked on when I didn’t masturbate for long periods than I did during school

JFL, you guys and your placebos, how the hell did you even quantify this, you have to see how much this sounds like complete bullshit

"When I stopped eating fast food for a week I guess I felt less "leered at" by normies, must be that elevated T level magic that intimidated normies huh NoFap bro?" :feelstastyman:

How does one quantify something like this, would I be counting how many times someone leered at me?

@MegaSpicCel
These are the guys who will go all over this site saying normies are illogical and women are emotional thinkers, THESE ARE THE GUYS
:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

The lack of selfawareness so many users have on this site is staggering, its like every single user has their own personal special exception rule for illogical shit they give themselves "a pass" to believe

Be it religion, nofap, oneitis, "true love", creating tulpas, etc

Heck I can even say in my case too (except I would not assert the belief as valid), I think alchemy might be possible, I plan on practicing it after wealthmaxxing and studying a bit of chemical engineering JFL, but at least I'm SELF AWARE, I know its crazy, I know its implausible, but the rest of you ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE SHIT THAT YOU KNOW IS ILLOGICAL, IS PLAUSIBLE

That's the crazy part
 
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No it works. I did it before. After 1 week I always have insanely higher energy levels.
 

So was I right about you being 30+? JFL

Guess it was NoT rather than NoFap huh?

If you are in your 20's you must have some kind of hormonal condition, it isn't natural to just lose your sex drive because you stop using it, with every other guy I've talked to (and this is my experience to) it only escalates and becomes "unbearable"
 
JFL, you guys and your placebos, who the hell did you even quantify this, you have to see how much this sounds like complete bullshit

"When I stopped eating fast food for a week I guess I felt less "leered at" by normies, must be that elevated T level magic that intimidated normies huh NoFap bro?" :feelstastyman:

@MegaSpicCel
These are the guys who will go all over this site saying normies are illogical and women are emotional thinkers, THESE ARE THE GUYS
:feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:

The lack of selfawareness so many users have on this site is staggering, its like every single user has their own personal special exception rule for illogical shit they give themselves "a pass" to believe

Be it religion, nofap, oneitis, "true love", creating tulpas

Heck I can even say in my case too, I think alchemy might be possible, I plan on practicing it after wealthmaxxing and studying a bit of chemical engineering JFL, but at least I'm SELF AWARE, I know its crazy, I know its implausible, but the rest of you ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE SHIT THAT YOU KNOW IS ILLOGICAL IS PLAUSIBLE

That's the crazy part
I did say I questioned it because I usually got picked on too much during school and I was an addict to jerking off which I state multiple times. So I gave myself a correlation based on that. I’m not wholly jumping on it if that’s what you implied it to be, but I’m not going to deny abstinence helps well being.

I’m very aware of what is going on within my body as well as what is being caused by what, so by far from being addicted to the one thing being PMO and abstaining since I started at 15, I’m very certain of what was the cause of most of the bodily issues I was facing during that time. Even with parameters such as sleep, diet and exercise in shape, I still felt crap.
 
I agree it doesn't help with women, but tbh I feel more energetic when I do it, even though I can't do it for long since I'm addicted as fuck. It also feels nice to stay away from porn degeneracy, the same kind that's fucking up this world.
 
You guys should stop eating food that makes you prone to fap. Just read about what kind of food raises your hormones levels.
 
I did say I questioned it because I usually got picked on too much during school and I was an addict to jerking off which I state multiple times. So I gave myself a correlation based on that. I’m not wholly jumping on it if that’s what you implied it to be, but I’m not going to deny abstinence helps well being.

I’m very aware of what is going on within my body as well as what is being caused by what, so by far from being addicted to the one thing being PMO and abstaining since I started at 15, I’m very certain of what was the cause of most of the bodily issues I was facing during that time. Even with parameters such as sleep, diet and exercise in shape, I still felt crap.

You felt like crap because you fapped TOO MUCH, not because you fapped PERIOD

That's the fallacy in all this NoFap bs, its a bunch of guys with no self control, who can't do anything in moderation, completely throwing all of the blame and accountability off of themselves, and onto the act of masturbation itself

"Its bad for you bro"

No, lack of moderation is

Water is very good for your body, but it actually is possible to drink too much water

There is no medicine or source of nutrition that doesn't become a poison or health problem when done in excess

I've always masturbated basically once a day, never felt any lack of energy when doing it, and every once in a while I go a few days without doing it and I don't feel any magical boost of energy (I don't stop masturbating on purpose either, it just happens sometimes, forcing your body not to feel good is retarded, let it happen naturally)

Another thing too, I only masturbate at night, and usually before I go to sleep, so I go straight to bed well satisfied to get my rest, and I wake up feeling just like any other day

Ever think maybe its you guys that are the problem, and not porn and masturbation
 
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Masturbating rises testosterone, nofap doesn't have any benefits, even if you masturbate 3 times a day body need 2 day max to replenish sperm and after that it trashes with urine, if you are over 30 not fapping can cause Ed and penis can get smaller in long run.
 
Its not bullshit. When I was on nofap I thought about sex/women less and had better control of my urges
Also Watching porn makes you more likely to buy it/buy onlyfans.
Some Chinese monks dont even feel anything from looking at giga stacies and shit appreantly. Honestly I think its cope still but ik what ur on about
 
No bro it gives you superpowers and makes you give off pheromones which makes women attracted to you! :feelstastyman:
 
Some Chinese monks dont even feel anything from looking at giga stacies and shit appreantly. Honestly I think its cope still but ik what ur on about

I think a lot of pedophillia and homosexuality takes place in these kinds of situations, and its not just when it comes to the west and catholic priets, those communities are just more secluded and less advanced (less reporting and media coverage) so it probably goes on unknown for the most part
 
The only change I personally see is if you are a daily fapper like me you can experience a pretty intense orgasm after withdrawing for a few days. Four days is enough for me at the moment to get the feeling.
 
Just another stupid cope. Nothing more , nothing less
 
I think a lot of pedophillia and homosexuality takes place in these kinds of situations, and its not just when it comes to the west and catholic priets, those communities are just more secluded and less advanced (less reporting and media coverage) so it probably goes on unknown for the most part
That's a pretty good point, actually. But sadly none of this shit has been studied properly for all we know they manipulate the part of the brain that's associated with fetishes. For example the most common fetish in Texas is being whipped. The state that has the most amount of whips and culturally is associated with them . Monks are usually trained from infancy. So I can see how a pedo or an attachment to some other shit occurs for them tbh.
 
The only change I personally see is if you are a daily fapper like me you can experience a pretty intense orgasm after withdrawing for a few days. Four days is enough for me at the moment to get the feeling.

Really and truly 2 days is enough or even one (or none in my case, I fap everyday because I have a large catalogue), but you need more variety in porn (this is why I download porn and sort them in category folders JFL)

The way porn works on your brain is that if you keep seeing the same stimuli, you get used to it and its less arousing over time, but if you swap between "categories" (fetishes) you can get an intense orgasm every day even, so long as you have enough categories and videos, and you can keep adding to it

TBH I add in, and I end up deleting some videos that were of lower quality or "not as good" for the current category as better stuff exists now
 
You felt like crap because you fapped TOO MUCH, not because you fapped PERIOD

That's the fallacy in all this NoFap bs, its a bunch of guys with no self control, who can't do anything in moderation, completely throwing all of the blame and accountability off of themselves, and onto the act of masturbation itself

"Its bad for you bro"

No, lack of moderation is

Water is very good for your body, but it actually is possible to drink too much water

There is no medicine or source of nutrition that doesn't become a poison or health problem when done in excess

I've always masturbated basically once a day, never felt any lack of energy when doing it, and every once in a while I go a few days without doing it I don't feel a boost of energy either (I don't stop masturbating on purpose either, it just happens sometimes, forcing your body not to feel good is retarded, let it happen naturally)

Another thing too, I only masturbate at night, and usually before I go to sleep, so I go straight to bed well satisfied to get my rest, and I wake up feeling just like any other day

Ever think maybe its you guys that are the problem, and not porn and masturbation
Bud I know that it’s the conscious actions of my own that lead me to that. I don’t know why I’m being seen as unaware for it, unless it sounded like it came from an unaware person.

Also even when I refrained from doing it after awhile, and just done it once, the problems still onset, with anxiety being the first hit, and it’s mainly due to how I’m wired.

Adding on however, I don’t see why I shouldn’t be abstinent from doing it, considering you said it’s natural and it makes you feel good. I also find rape and murder to make me feel good and natural to do but does that mean I should take the choice in doing them, what you just said is the literal reason for why crime exists being that those who commit lack foresight in what events unfold and much rather bite the natural instinct like a bunch of flies swarming a fruit bowl.
 
Also even when I refrained from doing it after awhile, and just done it once, the problems still onset, with anxiety being the first hit, and it’s mainly due to how I’m wired.

No that's a placebo, you've interalized masturbation as something "sinful" and/or "shameful" especially because its a reminder of how you can't get orgasms "the manly way" (through sex and female validation), and its that mindset that causes all the "negatives" you percieve from masturbation

There is no magical "masturbation switch" in your mind that specifically tries to detect if you masturbate and then makes you feel ill effects

BY YOUR LOGIC, I GUESS YOU CAN'T HAVE SEX EVER, BECAUSE IF YOU STARTED HAVING SEX REGULARLY YOU'D FEEL LIKE SHIT ALL THE TIME, RIGHT?


Dude stop it with this nonsense, you know for a fact it has to do with self loathing (all in your head) and has nothing to do with biology, else you literally can't even have sex, as orgasming from sex would yield the same ill effects (unless you are now going to make the completely illogical and retarded argument that specifically porn induced orgasms deplete your energy and lower your health)

Adding on however, I don’t see why I shouldn’t be abstinent from doing it, considering you said it’s natural and it makes you feel good. I also find rape and murder to make me feel good and natural to do but does that mean I should take the choice in doing them, what you just said is the literal reason for why crime exists being that those who commit lack foresight in what events unfold and much rather bite the natural instinct like a bunch of flies swarming a fruit bowl.

I'm not a moralfag, I'm a nihilist, so an argument like this means nothing to me, if you want to rape, rape, but either way your analogy doesn't fit because masturbation has nothing to do with you harming anyone, its 100% pleasure to your benefit at the cost of no ones safety or well being

You just deny yourself the pleasure for egotistical reasons that make you internalize self hatred for not being "a real man"

Normie males just jerk off, at work we were even talking about it once, a guy sent me a video JFL, no normie males are talking about this nofap bullshit because they don't overdo it

Its the same way how health freaks say to avoid all fast food where as regular fit people just eat fast food every now and then

When you do things in moderation you don't have to worry
 
you need more variety in porn
Interesting. I have like two fetishes (I'm not gunna say whoch ones), and have spent 100% of my more porn time searching those since I began watching porn more than 12 years ago. I've always felt my fetishes contributed to my soical anxiety around women, and thats why I have been inclined to think fapping to porn is bad.
 
Interesting. I have like two fetishes (I'm not gunna say whoch ones), and have spent 100% of my more porn time searching those since I began watching porn more than 12 years ago. I've always felt my fetishes contributed to my soical anxiety around women, and thats why I have been inclined to think fapping to porn is bad.

Please tell me its not femdom and female masturbation (solo) vids JFL
 
Really and truly 2 days is enough or even one (or none in my case, I fap everyday because I have a large catalogue), but you need more variety in porn (this is why I download porn and sort them in category folders JFL)

The way porn works on your brain is that if you keep seeing the same stimuli, you get used to it and its less arousing over time, but if you swap between "categories" (fetishes) you can get an intense orgasm every day even, so long as you have enough categories and videos, and you can keep adding to it

TBH I add in, and I end up deleting some videos that were of lower quality or "not as good" for the current category as better stuff exists now
Two days might also work for me. I tried four just last week to experiment, this week I'll try two.

I want to see what the "limit" will be before my returns(so to speak) are diminished since I plan on buying another hooker in the next few months (at least before the new year). The reason is for a time I was a little bit disappointed with my first experience with a hooker (I don't want to get into detail) but I think because I'd been masturbating 'incorrectly' for so long -- when I actually stuck it in(used a condom) it felt like sticking my dick into a bag of warm water. Because you see - I'm uncut and the way I solely masturbated back then wasn't by "sliding" against it (I didn't use lube), instead - it was me using the foreskin to just jerk myself off dry. It was a huge mistake on my part. Since then I've been alternating between both methods - I want to see if it's possible to make the lube one better than dry jerking(which still feels more intense but I want to change that). I think this topic has been discussed before.
 
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If it was, would it contribute to my social anxiety around women?

Uh yeah no shit, everything about those fetishes would make you internalize your sense of self worth around women

Whereas in my case I watch JAV rape porn, western rape porn, maybe a bit of gangbangs, and hentai (a lot) even the 3D shit, heck I've seen some of the monster porn too JFL

(Please dude, watch some JAV, I downloaded SHKD-794, one of the best ever, might watch it again tonight)

All of these themes are about dominating women and not giving a fuck about whether they like you, I've pretty much spent years projecting myself onto rapists and monsters and jerking off, its no wonder I just want to pay whores to fuck and I don't give a fuck about female validation

I've conditioned myself not to care about validation at all, because I guess as far as my psyche is concerned, I'm a "predator", and a predator doesn't give a fuck about whether its prey "desires" them by virtue of the nature of predator and prey

I guess I've also internalized the idea that I am "unwanted" and accepted it even, that I am "the bad guy" in the story, and you know what, its great lol
 
Its helpful if you have an extreme porn addiction, otherwise its a cope for the most part.
 
I'm not a moralfag, I'm a nihilist, so an argument like this means nothing to me, if you want to rape, rape, but either way your analogy doesn't fit because masturbation has nothing to do with you harming anyone, its 100% pleasure to your benefit at the cost of no ones safety or well being

You just deny yourself the pleasure for egotistical reasons that make you internalize self hatred for not being "a real man"

Normie males just jerk off, at work we were even talking about it once, a guy sent me a video JFL, no normie males are talking about this nofap bullshit because they don't overdo it

Its the same way how health freaks say to avoid all fast food where as regular fit people just eat fast food every now and then

When you do things in moderation you don't have to worry
The whole stance on it wasn’t around moral fagging, but more of a physicalist/animalistic one that behaves on the whim like a addict but sure I’m not denying the moderation part but masturbation has been a vice for me in comparison to when I paid for sex.
 
Uh yeah no shit, everything about those fetishes would make you internalize your sense of self worth around women

Whereas in my case I watch JAV rape porn, western rape porn, maybe a bit of gangbangs, and hentai (a lot) even the 3D shit, heck I've seen some of the monster porn too JFL

(Please dude, watch some JAV, I downloaded SHKD-794, one of the best ever, might watch it again tonight)

All of these themes are about dominating women and not giving a fuck about whether they like you, I've pretty much spent years projecting myself onto rapists and monsters and jerking off, its no wonder I just want to pay whores to fuck and I don't give a fuck about female validation

I've conditioned myself not to care about validation at all, because I guess as far as my psyche is concerned, I'm a "predator", and a predator doesn't give a fuck about whether its prey "desires" them by virtue of the nature of predator and prey

I guess I've also internalized the idea that I am "unwanted" and accepted it even, that I am "the bad guy" in the story, and you know what, its great lol
Will try.
 
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one that behaves on the whim like a addict

You are in denial about the nature of a biological existence if you don't realize that everything we do relates to "pleasure chasing" (addiction)

Be it eating food, entertainment, music, sleep, etc

Its all about chasing the "feel good" hormone

Either way its ridiculous to use the term "addict" with relation to sex because its a "natural high", you aren't going to start vomiting and getting shakes and die in your sleep if you stop, nor are you going to "over dose" on sex

Being addicted to dopamine (which we all are) is basically being addicted to "living", all our biological functions revolve around dopamine

Eating feels good, sleeping feels good, being entertained feels good, all of that is part of our brains reward system, and it wouldn't work like that if it wasn't good for us

Again, YOU'LL NOTICE A TREND HERE - YOU KEEP COMPARING INSTANCES OF DOING SOMETHING IN EXCESS TO NATURAL PLEASURE SEEKING

Using the term "addict" as if someone is using cocaine which fucks your body up, when talking about orgasms is ridiculous

Stop blaming the "act" and take personal responisibility, if you become "addicted" that's on you and your lack of self control

but sure I’m not denying the moderation part but masturbation has been a vice for me in comparison to when I paid for sex.

I do plan on not masturbating one day, but only when I can consistently pay for sex, but I wouldn't see that as me "stopping a vice", it would just be me substituting one form of sexual pleasure for a better one, its the same thing really, its really ridiculous to see consuming porn as a "vice" but paying for sex isn't, the end result is the same, you are chasing the pleasure of orgasms




You are probably wondering how I guessed so well lol (assuming I guessed right), when you think about it its obvious, that's the kind of shit men who seem "mentally cucked" would watch, you need to consume more things related to dominance, you need to remove self loathing and replace it with acceptance, don't loathe being "the unwanted", accept it, embrace it, somebody has to fulfill that role, if its going to be me, I might as well enjoy it (at least that's my perspective)

I'm pretty sure the majority of guys on this site that refuse to pay for sex, by majority consume female solo masturbation porn or femdom porn, they don't watch the shit I do, because if they did, they would not value women so much that female validation means more to them than sex, their perspective on women is kind of a give away to their fetishes, because basically everything you think and do as a biological creature is related to your sexuality and your sex drive, its all kind of connected

Get SHKD-794 lol, damn that shit was good JFL, I'm sure you can find an HD download if you search a bit
 
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To me fapping is the closest thing I'll get to sex. Fapping once every 2-3 days is ideal for me because I can enjoy it more. Fapping everyday just feels like a chore. I want my fap sessions to be longer and more pleasurable. Can't do that if I fap everyday.
2-3 days is ideal time period for me. Anything more than that is pointless and not worth it.
 
To me fapping is the closest thing I'll get to sex. Fapping once every 2-3 days is ideal for me because I can enjoy it more. Fapping everyday just feels like a chore. I want my fap sessions to be longer and more pleasurable. Can't do that if I fap everyday.
2-3 days is ideal time period for me. Anything more than that is pointless and not worth it.

Depends, are you stopping yourself from fapping to make it to the 2-3 day quota, if so then the actual chore is repressing your sex drive for days on end, whereas if you have the urge to fap everyday and then fapping everyday comes naturally and isn't a chore at all
 
You are in denial about the nature of a biological existence if you don't realize that everything we do relates to "pleasure chasing" (addiction)

Be it eating food, entertainment, music, sleep, etc

Its all about chasing the "feel good" hormone

Either way its ridiculous to use the term "addict" with relation to sex because its a "natural high", you aren't going to start vomiting and getting shakes and die in your sleep if you stop, nor are you going to "over dose" on sex

Being addicted to dopamine (which we all are) is basically being addicted to "living", all our biological functions revolve around dopamine

Eating feels good, sleeping feels good, being entertained feels good, all of that is part of our brains reward system, and it wouldn't work like that if it wasn't good for us

Again, YOU'LL NOTICE A TREND HERE - YOU KEEP COMPARING INSTANCES OF DOING SOMETHING IN EXCESS TO NATURAL PLEASURE SEEKING

Using the term "addict" as if someone is using cocaine which fucks your body up, when talking about orgasms is ridiculous

Stop blaming the "act" and take personal responisibility, if you become "addicted" that's on you and your lack of self control



I do plan on not masturbating one day, but only when I can consistently pay for sex, but I wouldn't see that as me "stopping a vice", it would just be me substituting one form of sexual pleasure for a better one, its the same thing really, its really ridiculous to see consuming porn as a "vice" but paying for sex isn't, the end result is the same, you are chasing the pleasure of orgasms
Bud I don’t see myself jacking off 10+ times a week, being a deviant that can’t even do it irl as being productive for myself. It was fine when I was in year 5 onwards but I can’t carry on being a coomer. I’m not easily the type to just kick the excessiveness easily, even at satisfactory levels I still would jerk off like a mad dog.

I’ve done various methods all leading me back to the same spot. The only way for me is cold turkey or bust.

This isn’t a cry for help but stating how it’s always been and will be if I leave it at that with no intervention involved.
 
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Depends, are you stopping yourself from fapping to make it to the 2-3 day quota, if so then the actual chore is repressing your sex drive for days on end, whereas if you have the urge to fap everyday and then fapping everyday comes naturally and isn't a chore at all
I agree. I don't have very high sex drive. Fapping everyday makes my dick numb. I can't achieve full erections.
 
I agree. I don't have very high sex drive. Fapping everyday makes my dick numb. I can't achieve full erections.
Doing cardio (for me) and staying at a healthy weight helps a ton with making the intensity better.
 

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