"could be" is not "guaranteed to"
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Based Roosh V's prediction on the "future of game" ten years ago.
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Tell you what, I'll look at it this weekend and try to find the quote
The premise was if you go to bars every night of the week (and have the social circle, time and money to do it), approach loads of foids, be NT, jester max, use negs, be low inhib, be confident bro, numbers game theory and all the rest of it then you'd have a chance of 'getting lucky' each night. You had to put loads of work in though every night just to have a chance.
If you had all that game to do it then you could get a new girl each night. This was back before social media and OLD though. Bar game doesn't work now unless you're a Chad.
Now you can get a girl every night of the week on Tinder with no effort. But you have to be Chad.
"You have to be Chad" has put the PUA's out of commission. If you were a 5-7 NT normie you could run bar game with a bit of PUA help before social media.
They're not going to fool Incels into buying courses anymore. The guys who can get girls get them so easily now they don't need to put any effort in. For the rest it's a losing game.
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You clearly didn't read my last comment, I claimed that PUA promised sexual success, not unlimited sexual success. But still, it was stale and a scam since the Facebook era, the main quote of PUAhate described it much better than I could:
My point wasn't that attractiveness declines with age (which is true though), it was that if a man was born ugly (mainly genetically) or became ugly thanks to puberty (again, mainly genetically) is extremely more likely that he wouldn't become more attractive as time goes by, his development at childhood and puberty is what broke him.
It's possible for any man to become more attractive at any age if only his problems are a lack of confidence, a bad choice of clothing and fatness. Things such as being 4'11ft tall at 21 or being born with bug eyes, a receding jawline and a deformed nose are not changeable with "confidence","personality" or "game".
I'd highly recommend to looksmaxx at your teens rather than your 30s (which seems to be one of main TRP viewpoints that a "man becomes more attractive as he gets older" aka sexual false conciousness), not many women around 30 are looking for kissless and dateless virgins.
It's not a matter of practical question, it's a matter of basic biology. One of the reasons the
was born and popularized was because the staleness and recent innefficiency of the
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Gaining muscle, fixing posture and personal grooming would also be small factors that could help, but even all those combined probably couldn't make up for gaining more than 5 years in age.
Right but: did red pill ever actually CLAIM those were changeable?
I always took it to mean "work with what can be changed" not "and that's guaranteed to make you a stacy-slayer".
Assuming that is a TRP viewpoint (which again: who specifically are you attributing that view to? which PUA?) it would confuse correlation with causation.
Older men are sometimes wealthier, sometimes more independent, and foids crave material resources, so that's probably the aspect that makes them more attractive.
Is it red's inefficiency, or the inefficiency of a caricature of red?It's not a matter of practical question, it's a matter of basic biology. One of the reasons the
I wonder if perhaps an image of red is being painted more extreme/exaggerated than main viewpoints maybe influenced by the sales pitch of a few more flamboyant characters in it?
Red tactics are also obviously going to be more useful for non-optimized normies or non-optimized chads than sub-normies, but I guess the question is: whether or not it ever actually falsely advertised stuff.
One character that comes to mind is "Dmitri the Lover", and (he even e-mailed me once, so cool!) how his general advice was to be more inclusive of women in a varied range of appearances (ie the "lower your standards" idea, though prefer to see it as expanding my concept of beauty) which seems like one decent piece of advice.
Of course, Dmitri and Roosh were probably at LEAST sixes, probably optimized to 7 or 8 in their prime by their confidence/wealth so it's hard to expect to do as well as them for sub-5s.
30+ year old dudes don't have the monopoly on self-improvement, tell a 13 year old kid to gain muscle, fix posture and improve his grooming and he'll probably do it better than his 30 year old version. Like I said before, any man can improve regardless of age.
TRP appealed (and still does) to low tier normies, failed normies and incels promising them lots of things, like they'll bang the young girls they wanted but they couldn't during their teens and twenties because our SMV peaks at 40 or shit like that. It was PUAscam 2.0, only worked for high-tier normies and above.
We live in a time where female economical empowerment is granted, promoted and achieved, more and more women are dating the (genetically attractive) men they like while excluding a vast majority that'd be considered "economically dateable" 10-15 years ago, you've 18-21 girls making 100k per month just by offering their nudes on Patreon.
But if this isn't enough proof, listen to the Father of the RedPill himself explaining the pattern of female pedophiles.
Why do you think people such as Roosh and Roisy abandoned TRP, the market is death.
TRP was the Snake Oil business of this century, so their sellers are retiring and looking for other ways of income.
"Dimitri the Lover"....LMAO
I don't need nor appreciate these hypothetical idealist examples. I've accepted the reality a while ago, and that reality means that most women don't see most men as worth of having sex, love and companionship with.
This isn't Dragon Ball or He-Man, nor even 1984; this is Our Twisted World
Srsly, I don't see the point of a redpiller and a blackpiller debating, it's like a teenager in his first day of high school trying to debate a college graduate.
True, more of a wealth correlation thing. 30s guy is more likely to have a driver license and car (though not guaranteed, case in point: me) to do stuff like go to gym.
I'm sure some things filed under TRP made exaggerated claims like that, I'm just not sure I'm comfortable painting the entire movement that way.
Surely we should just get specific and condemn specific authors by name? Maybe make articles about them on incels.wiki giving examples of their over-promising?
I'll leave that up to guys more familiar with specific PUA authors as I can't remember much, just vaguely browsed and didn't invest in (or get let down by) any particular system.
Or it could have something to do with people just copying the books for free and sharing them without paying the authors, this also causes problems in the RPG industry. I have no idea.
Respect the LEGEND.
I'm just not sure there's as clear a line of demarcation between the schools of thought as people are thinking.
Seems more of a "focus on what you can change to maximize your chances, however slim they be" approach vs "don't even bother, it's not worth what you'll get out of it" approach, while not necessarily disagreeing on anything.
The future is only going to get worse unless the natural order can reassert itself. I honestly believe that it will only be a few more years before people decide to give up all pretenses and a new, Chad-centric openly polygamist society will form, (also with all the trannies and modern sexual degenerates too). And who will be able to say anything?
Of course all it takes is nature to reassert itself like I said, and then women will have to sit down and shut the fuck up like they used to and keep their society-destroying HOLES in the home where they belong, under a man's ownership.
But I believe it could be too late. There is no natural precedent for technology. They may be able to "cure" natural, healthy human relationships altogether, just like they cured many diseases in the early 20th century.
Of course all it takes is nature to reassert itself like I said, and then women will have to sit down and shut the fuck up like they used to and keep their society-destroying HOLES in the home where they belong, under a man's ownership.
But I believe it could be too late. There is no natural precedent for technology. They may be able to "cure" natural, healthy human relationships altogether, just like they cured many diseases in the early 20th century.
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@ThirdWorldcel please fix your end tags
It had already deteriorated so much by that point already
The future is easy to predict: just imagine how things are right now but with better tech and a worse society.
Quote from the article:
He kind of had the right idea, but he missed the mark completely.
It should have read:
“and it will happen at such a frustrating level that I’m certain more men will be INCELS and more women will claim to be homosexual and even act on it and actually date girls—until Chad comes along and then she’s straight again”
He kind of had the right idea, but he missed the mark completely.
It should have read:
“and it will happen at such a frustrating level that I’m certain more men will be INCELS and more women will claim to be homosexual and even act on it and actually date girls—until Chad comes along and then she’s straight again”
Too long
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