Based Roosh V's prediction on the "future of game" ten years ago.

[Personalityinkwell]

In 2010, Roosh V made an article predicting the future for men pursuing women. Granted, this was in 2010 before instagram or Tinder came out, so he was unable to see the catastrophe of those, he was still accurate.

The Future Of Game – Roosh Valizadeh

Like a doctor who takes a two-week seminar to refresh his skills, game guys must keep learning to keep their game as effective as possible. Always be approaching and always be experimenting. While the main principles of game will not change, the arena in which it's played will. Different environment

www.rooshv.com

Let's look at some excerpts.

1. "Hot Girls Under 30 Will Be Impossible To Lock Down

Populations will continue to get fatter, decreasing the attractiveness of the species. The few remaining girls who aren’t obese will have a never-ending line of suitors at the door (not only betas but alphas as well)"

Pretty fucking accurate. Most girls who are thin have a bunch of orbiters while simultaneously having multiple Chads blowing up their phone. They just want to ride the cock carousel until late 20's then find some foolish betabux


2. "Flaking Will Reach Epidemic Proportions

Western culture is teaching youth to glance upon the field and carefully analyze all available options before making a decision, or simply not make a decision at all. Therefore dates scheduled more than a day in advance will be rare. There will be no concept of keeping your word, being honorable, showing up, or acting respectful. Everyone will be looking out for their own."

Match a girl on Tinder? There's still a good chance you won't fuck her. She'll just toy with you for attention.


3. "The Definition Of Monogamy Will Loosen

You know how some people call themselves flex-vegetarians, meaning they are meat-eaters but like to pretend they are vegetarians? Beautiful women will have flex-monogamous relationships. In relationships they will cheat and stray regularly, as our culture will by then have perfectly taught youth the art of rationalization. “You don’t have to accept your current situation!” “Do what you like!” “You’re a unique snowflake!” “You don’t deserve to be uncomfortable!” She’ll cheat on strange men without a condom and not feel any remorse, and if you dump her she won’t care because she’ll do the same with the next guy in line (they’ll be several)."

I'll just leave you with this:

https://incels.is/threads/in-the-we...o-can-cheat-on-their-partner-the-most.156923/

4. "Game Plus Fame Will Be More Important Than Anything

It doesn’t have to be national fame, but you must be known for something with a reputation that precedes you. .... In a culture where a million people are “famous,” you’ll have to work your ass off for scraps if you’re not."

Instagram = Social Proof. These days girls want hot statusmaxxed guys, if you're someone without social status she'll think you're disgusting unless you're a full blown Chad.

Now of course granted PUA is 99% scam and looks are most important, Roosh V was pretty accurate here. Your thoughts?

 

[Unhappy-Man]

The only Game in town is the Just Be Chad.

 

[Barnacle]

Is Roosh white or ethnic?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Is Roosh white or ethnic?

He's Persian but his skin tone allows him to be white-passing

 

[Ropemaxx]

Brutal blackpill tbh. He even saw it was heading in a bad direction in 2010.
I dont know what to think of this pua. He admits game doesnt work and yet is a pua? im confused tbh

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Brutal blackpill tbh. He even saw it was heading in a bad direction in 2010.
I dont know what to think of this pua. He admits game doesnt work and yet is a pua? im confused tbh

I think game was somewhat effective for average looking (not ugly) men before the age of instagram/tinder/social media. So he's slowly backed off game being an effective approach

 

[littlemanhikicel]

He was right, but to make that opinion most probably he started to see that in 2010

 

[Ropemaxx]

I think game was somewhat effective for average looking (not ugly) men before the age of instagram/tinder/social media. So he's slowly backed off game being an effective approach

You are probably right tbh. Times have truly changed. For the worse ..

 

[Vorbei]

The weightpill is often overlooked. So many women are overweight or obese that a normal BMI alone is putting them quite far to the right on the bell curve of attraction. What would have been a 5/10 male's looksmatch a few decades ago is now getting approached by high SMV men. Her dating app and social media DMs have been blown up so much they are mistaken for Hiroshima ground zero.

 

[Hate_my_life]

Ask him to make a prediction for 2030.

 

[Deleted member 6214]

The weightpill is often overlooked. So many women are overweight or obese that a normal BMI alone is putting them quite far to the right on the bell curve of attraction. What would have been a 5/10 male's looksmatch a few decades ago is now getting approached by high SMV men. Her dating app and social media DMs have been blown up so much they are mistaken for Hiroshima ground zero.

High IQ

 

[Teutonic Knight]

"I used to think that Polish girls love me and they had sex with me just because of how I'm an amazing man but when it comes down to it's a little down to how I looked. They want to sleep with a man who doesn't look like a Polish man."

Roosh V, 2017


His entire game consisted of benefiting from slavpill as a non-Slavic man.

 

[Deleted member 17724]

He's Persian but his skin tone allows him to be white-passing

He's half-Persian, half-Armenian. His mother is an Armenian Christian.

 

[frustratedhapa]

Well he was right

 

[Personalityinkwell]

He's half-Persian, half-Armenian. His mother is an Armenian Christian.

Yeah middle eastern but can pass as white somewhat

 

[UglyScotsman]

He nailed it.

 

[Ropemaxx]

The weightpill is often overlooked. So many women are overweight or obese that a normal BMI alone is putting them quite far to the right on the bell curve of attraction. What would have been a 5/10 male's looksmatch a few decades ago is now getting approached by high SMV men. Her dating app and social media DMs have been blown up so much they are mistaken for Hiroshima ground zero.

Spot on. Women are just getting fatter and fatter and the media and society is just cheering them on and saying
"any size is beautiful,
"be proud of who you are girl"
"men have too high standards"
"you cant expect a model body!!!"

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

Let's look at some excerpts.

1. "Hot Girls Under 30 Will Be Impossible To Lock Down

Populations will continue to get fatter, decreasing the attractiveness of the species. The few remaining girls who aren’t obese will have a never-ending line of suitors at the door (not only betas but alphas as well)"

Pretty fucking accurate. Most girls who are thin have a bunch of orbiters while simultaneously having multiple Chads blowing up their phone. They just want to ride the cock carousel until late 20's then find some foolish betabux


2. "Flaking Will Reach Epidemic Proportions

Western culture is teaching youth to glance upon the field and carefully analyze all available options before making a decision, or simply not make a decision at all. Therefore dates scheduled more than a day in advance will be rare. There will be no concept of keeping your word, being honorable, showing up, or acting respectful. Everyone will be looking out for their own."

Match a girl on Tinder? There's still a good chance you won't fuck her. She'll just toy with you for attention.


3. "The Definition Of Monogamy Will Loosen

You know how some people call themselves flex-vegetarians, meaning they are meat-eaters but like to pretend they are vegetarians? Beautiful women will have flex-monogamous relationships. In relationships they will cheat and stray regularly, as our culture will by then have perfectly taught youth the art of rationalization. “You don’t have to accept your current situation!” “Do what you like!” “You’re a unique snowflake!” “You don’t deserve to be uncomfortable!” She’ll cheat on strange men without a condom and not feel any remorse, and if you dump her she won’t care because she’ll do the same with the next guy in line (they’ll be several)."

I'll just leave you with this:

https://incels.is/threads/in-the-we...o-can-cheat-on-their-partner-the-most.156923/

4. "Game Plus Fame Will Be More Important Than Anything

It doesn’t have to be national fame, but you must be known for something with a reputation that precedes you. .... In a culture where a million people are “famous,” you’ll have to work your ass off for scraps if you’re not."

Instagram = Social Proof. These days girls want hot statusmaxxed guys, if you're someone without social status she'll think you're disgusting unless you're a full blown Chad.

Now of course granted PUA is 99% scam and looks are most important, Roosh V was pretty accurate here. Your thoughts?

1. Don't forget the insane amount of alcohol, cigarretes and even drugs that young girls consume since they hit their mid teens, thus incredibly accelerating aging. Just look at Tana Mongeau at 22, having a non-wrinkly skin and not being obese at 30 isn't that complicated.
2. In a more academic term, ultraliberalism
3. Cuckold relationships, open relationships, cheating fetishes are everywhere nowadays. But the traditional definition of monogamy didn't exist since the mid 20th century, back in the 80s-00s a conservative woman lost her virginity to his HS boyfriend, had 5-7 other bfs from her teens to her mid twenties until she finally settled down around that age. Traditional woman in 2020 is basically a woman who doesn't have sex tapes uploaded to PornHub.
4. More like Looks plus Fame, this is why:

He openly admitted that "game" was no longer effective 2 years ago

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

The PUAs were prophets. It's a shame that they're so invested in red pill fallacies (or making money off of them) that even their link to reality isn't firm.

Also, Roosh V quit the PUA community entirely last year in favor of religion. Which translates to, the shit didn't work anymore. 10 years ago this guy slayed, but in 2020 no amount of charm and manipulation can let a normie slip past the Chad filter of dating apps.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

Roosh is a smart dude, that’s how he scammed and made money off of incels and low tier normies for years until the writing was on the wall and he couldn’t do it anymore. PUA is dying, I doubt any men will fall for redpilled bullshit by the end of 2030.

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

The PUAs were prophets. It's a shame that they're so infested in red pill fallacies (or making money off of them) that even their link to reality isn't firm.

Also, Roosh V quit the PUA community entirely last year in favor of religion. Which translates to, the shit didn't work anymore. 10 years ago this guy slayed, but in 2020 no amount of charm and manipulation can let a normie slip past the Chad filter of dating apps.

PUAs were pre-redpillers, they believed that any men could be sexually successful with the right amount of charisma, exact words and the right time but didn't recognized female sexual nature
TRPers did, but they couldn't acknowledge the fact that no matter how much you invest in your SMV at 30, if you were a failure (mostly genetically) since your teens you'll probably just decline attractiveness-wise as time goes by.

 

[just_world_ogre]

He seems to be smart, last time I checked his videos he was traveling around America with his big beard speaking about god, I think he is just trying to change target and maybe sell books to mgtow men.
This is high iq marketing, he knows pua is dying and a lot of men will only be able to cope, so he changes his contents accordingly with other copes.

 

[Monk of Failure]

He used his money to get pussies, otherwise he would hsve struggled with becky.

 

[Deleted member 17724]

Yeah middle eastern but can pass as white somewhat

I think Armenians consider themselves white.

 

[Joker]

The only Game in town is the Just Be Chad.

 

[The Incel Decade]

Yet he's caught religion and jumped back on the plantation now

PUAs were pre-redpillers, they believed that any men could be sexually successful with the right amount of charisma, exact words and the right time but didn't recognized female sexual nature
TRPers did, but they couldn't acknowledge the fact that no matter how much you invest in your SMV at 30, if you were a failure (mostly genetically) since your teens you'll probably just decline attractiveness-wise as time goes by.

They were the last generation before social media changed the whole dynamic.

PUA is a scam anyway. Its low inhib jester maxers telling Incels to just approach bro. In 2020 its useless advice as you need to look good to have a chance in a bar or tinder

 

[Deleted member 22549]

It actually went even worse than he expected, actually what happened was this:

1 - Girls under 30 are basically impossible to get unless you're chad, and those over 30 got insanely harder even for betabuxxers.
2 - Flaking is utterly absurd, you have to jestermaxx to hold a conversation with a foid so she won't ghost you.
3 - Monogamy is basically destroyed and even frowned upon.
4 - Game is essentially dead at this point, PUAs are losing their consumer base day by day, and in 5 years the community will be basically abandoned, like a ghost town.

This thread opened my eyes to something funny, i'm going to make a thread using those trends that happened in the PUA/Redpill community and apply them to The Blackpill/Incel culture/MGTOW to make predictions for the next 10 years.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

The only Game in town is the Just Be Chad.

tbh

 

[ShyManlet]

The weightpill is often overlooked. So many women are overweight or obese that a normal BMI alone is putting them quite far to the right on the bell curve of attraction. What would have been a 5/10 male's looksmatch a few decades ago is now getting approached by high SMV men. Her dating app and social media DMs have been blown up so much they are mistaken for Hiroshima ground zero.

the avrg men must be getting fatter too? so it should even out..

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

still pretty prophetic ngl, there were still people thinking everything's okay in 2010 lol

It actually went even worse than he expected, actually what happened was this:

1 - Girls under 30 are basically impossible to get unless you're chad, and those over 30 got insanely harder even for betabuxxers.
2 - Flaking is utterly absurd, you have to jestermaxx to hold a conversation with a foid so she won't ghost you.
3 - Monogamy is basically destroyed and even frowned upon.
4 - Game is essentially dead at this point, PUAs are losing their consumer base day by day, and in 5 years the community will be basically abandoned, like a ghost town.

This thread opened my eyes to something funny, i'm going to make a thread using those trends that happened in the PUA/Redpill community and apply them to The Blackpill/Incel culture/MGTOW to make predictions for the next 10 years.

to be fair it's been 10 years since, things move so fast now. no wonder he's given up.

 

[skohlkal]

the avrg men must be getting fatter too? so it should even out..

Women are the choosers of sex, they don't have to lower their standards.

 

[speedtypingincel]

Your thoughts?

I disagree with the fourth point. Status cannot create attraction. Mark Zuckerberg is no less disgusting because he's a multibillionaire. Here's 2 photos of him getting savagedly mogged:

Spoiler

Spoiler

I also made a thread on how status is beta:

https://incels.is/threads/status-is-beta.163127/

 

[Sportbro]

Ask him to make a prediction for 2030.

2030:
Hypergamy has reached a boiling point
Low status men are sent to re-education camps, where they are reached the values and virtues of being a male feminist
They are put on a soy only diet.
2035:
Government issues an order to execute sub 8 males on sight
Landwhales form death squads killing all sub-8 males they see, while hunting and captivating Chads to be sex toys for the rest of the female population.

 

[FinnCel]

It was over back then and it's even more over now

 

[Barnacle]

He's Persian but his skin tone allows him to be white-passing

So he is just white as Persian is an ethnicity and not a race

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Is Roosh white or ethnic?

Roosh sound white to you?

 

[Barnacle]

Roosh sound white to you?

He "sounds" white? What does that mean?

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

He "sounds" white? What does that mean?

His name. Cannot believe I have to spell it out for you.

 

[Barnacle]

His name. Cannot believe I have to spell it out for you.

Ohh okay, so I guess names(Roosh is not his name) define races now. High IQ post from you, like always.

Hey, Will Smith is an Anglo-Saxon noble man.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Ohh okay, so I guess names(Roosh is not his name) define races now. High IQ post from you, like always.

Hey, Will Smith is an Anglo-Saxon noble man.

Way more plausible than "Roosh." What is next, Rajesh might be "white" to you? It is not me, but you who is OBVIOUSLY high IQ.

 

[Sheogorath]

He's Persian but his skin tone allows him to be white-passing

If this guy is still slaying (if he ever did) it must be due to some kind of mystical rasputin-like qualities considering the massive gray beard he now sports in his recent YT vids.

PUAs were prophets.
It's a shame that they're so invested in red pill fallacies
(or making money off of them)
that even their link to reality isn't firm.

Specific examples or STFU please.

Roosh V quit the PUA community entirely last year in favor of religion.

I'm taking that with a grain of salt. Supposedly Trump got religious too, but I think it's just strategy for PR. These guys know long-game.

Pu As were pre-redpillers,
they believed that any men could be sexually successful with the right amount of charisma,
exact words and the right time
but didn't recognized female sexual nature

TRPers did,
but they couldn't acknowledge the fact that no matter how much you invest in your SMV at 30,
if you were a failure (mostly genetically) since your teens
you'll probably just decline attractiveness-wise as time goes by.

I think you are misrepresenting both communities/movements.

PUAs I think only believed any man could be MORE successful with charisma/words/timing. Not that you could reach unlimited success (ie reaching whatever you desired) despite your shit genes, just that genes could be optimized. I don't think they were ignoring foid nature, just doing their best to work within it's confines.

I don't think TRP ignored that there's a baseline attractiveness aspect which decreases with age. The lack of appeal in the elderly is obvious and common sense and I don't see where it's denied.

It is definietly possible to be more attractive as a 30 year old man than as a 28 year old man if you improved your physique, dressed well, were more confident, etc. The question is how much those factors could compensate for age. Could you ever, for example, be more attractive at 40 than you were at 20?

It's a question of how far you came from, I think. If you were 500 pounds at 20, and dropped to 200 at 40, then sure, but only because you had sunk really low. If you were already average at 20 them gym-maxing might not take you beyond where you were then by 40.

So he is just white
as Persian is an ethnicity
and not a race

This is cope. I don't care how often people will say Kurds/Azeris are Caucasian, not buying it.

Maybe in the vague sense that some Indians are "Aryan", but being WHITE means being nordic-aryan. Otherwise, you are not white, you are swarthy.

 

[The Incel Decade]

PUA as an industry pre-dated social media. It's totally useless now.

You need online game with zoomer and millenial foids and you're nothing without good facial features and social circle/status maxed just to have a chance.

Back in the 90s or early 2000s being a 6 out of 10 low inhib jester maxed clown might work in the club with your looksmatch if you could pull the act off. Try doing that now and at best you'll be used for free drinks all night, while she messages her Tinder Chad matches.

It's a different generation to Roosh and the PUA's.

 

[Barnacle]

Way more plausible than "Roosh." What is next, Rajesh might be "white" to you? It is not me, but you who is OBVIOUSLY high IQ.

Man are you dumb or something? What if a Norwegian named is son "Rajesh", does this turn him into a southern Asian, are names now magical spells? Besides, I know someone from India who is white and most Indians are atleast partially of the so called "Caucasian race".
What kind of stupid argumenation is this?

@Wizard32 "Maybe in the vague sense that some Indians are "Aryan", but being WHITE means being nordic-aryan. Otherwise, you are not white, you are swarthy."

I agree

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Man are you dumb or something? What if a Norwegian named is son "Rajesh", does this turn him into a southern Asian, are names now magical spells? Besides, I know someone from India who is white and most Indians are atleast partially of the so called "Caucasian race".
What kind of stupid argumenation is this?

@Wizard32 "Maybe in the vague sense that some Indians are "Aryan", but being WHITE means being nordic-aryan. Otherwise, you are not white, you are swarthy."

I agree

Clearly you cannot admit being a moron so you are continuing this debate. Accept it, you are dumb, your thought process is low IQ and you cannot deal with the fact an ethnic has won an argument. Now shut the fuck up.

 

[Barnacle]

Clearly you cannot admit being a moron so you are continuing this debate. Accept it, you are dumb, your thought process is low IQ and you cannot deal with the fact an ethnic has won an argument. Now shut the fuck up.

Wow, good sign for why India is such a shi... great country.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Wow, good sign for why India is such a shi... great country.

Superpower 2020!

 

[Deleted member 4159]

"Hot Girls Under 30 Will Be Impossible To Lock Down

Not just hot girls, but non landwhales in general.

Not that you could reach unlimited success (ie reaching whatever you desired) despite your shit genes,

But that's what they marketed it as though

He's Persian but his skin tone allows him to be white-passing

Lol no

 

[Sheogorath]

that's what they marketed it as though

Who is "they"? Give me an exact quote and who said it.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

Who is "they"? Give me an exact quote and who said it.

PUA's. No, I'm not going to give you "an exact quote". Anyone who is even vaguely familiar with PUA knows how they tried to market it. You're just nitpicking me like you did when I gave a very detailed response to your thread about former fat girls. Get the fuck over yourself.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Who is "they"? Give me an exact quote and who said it.

I'm pretty sure in Neil Strauss's "the Game" there's one point which suggested game could be used to get a new girl every night of the week