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Jesus the soylord: "All are equal in the eyes of God, both men and women."

Jesus titty fucking tap dancing Christ Jew on a stick! You would think people would of learned by now.... *sighs*
 
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Nautica1983 said:
Yeah and they're still around today. Certain people after awakening one of their chakras develop psychic powers such as telekinesis, healing, mins reading etc.

The CIA and military have a team of trained psychics.

I don't know about chakras but that may come under "noetic science" there's some actual truth to it. Probably quite a lot of bullshit as well.

'Consciousness – The Unifying Force?

There are some physicists who, since the dawn of the quantum era, have posited that consciousness is what unifies the two realms of quantum and classical reality. For example, physicist Sir James Jeans said that because of the implications of quantum theory, the “universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.” His statement still reverberates throughout physics because so much of quantum physics comes down to two primary questions: What ultimately connects everything in the universe? And what is it that causes quantum entities to behave differently under observation and experimentation? The answer to both questions appears to be consciousness. As physicist John Wheeler has suggested, we may actually live in a “participatory” universe, where our consciousness influences reality.



Frontier science, such as: neurotheology, P.N.I, epigenetics and noetic science, is uncovering evidence that we have both a quantum and a physical nature. There are not two realities, the classical and the quantum. There is only one ‘unified’ whole. Ultimately, everything in our world is reducible to the quantum realm. Your body, the chair you are sitting on, the computer you are looking at, the wind blowing against the window – they are all made of atoms (light), and atoms are made of subatomic particles, and particles are probabilities, not solid things. And the ultimate ‘measuring’ or ‘detecting’ instrument is consciousness. This is why what we think and feel really matters and has consequences, not just within the confines of our bodies, but within the world.





Particles or Waves?

When is a particle not a particle? When it’s a wave. It’s called complementarity, and more specifically ‘wave-particle duality.’ A subatomic particle, such as an electron, is both wave and particle simultaneously at the deepest level of reality – the quantum realm.



In our everyday world, it can show up only as a particle or a wave and not both, and how it shows up is restricted by the kind of experiment that is being conducted to detect it. It’s strange, but true that if an experimenter is seeking to explore the wave properties of a quantum particle, say an electron, then the electron shows up displaying its wave nature. If the experiment is designed to explore particles, the electron shows up with all the properties and dynamics of a tiny solid thing – a particle. Somehow it’s as if subatomic entities ‘know’ what we are asking and so appear in our world in ways that best accommodate our questions. This is truly mind-boggling and may further underline the role of consciousness in these matters because the energy that the human presence brings to these experiments unquestionably ‘influences’ the outcome.



Einstein quite rightly said that the moment you are observing an experiment you are part of what is taking place and therefore you are influencing the way that the atoms and subatomic particles behave. Particle-wave duality is an aspect of the quantum world that has been tested again and again, and always proved to be correct (see: The seminal experiment in this area, which is called the double-slit experiment).



Two of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, Neils Borh and Werner Heisenberg were amongst the first to point out that we can’t know everything there is to know about a quantum particle at once. There is a limit to our knowledge. For example, if you know how fast a particle is going (its velocity), you can’t tell with one hundred percent certainty where it is (its position). And vice versa, if you know precisely where it is, you can’t be sure how fast it is moving. By knowing a lot about one aspect of a particle, you sacrifice some knowledge about other aspects of it. This again is at odds with classical, Newtonian physics. Theoretically, in the classical world (our everyday world) Newtonian physics tells us that if we know all the initial conditions of a system, we can reveal everything there is to know about that system as it unfolds in time. The quantum reality paints a very different picture. This difference between our experience and calculation of things in the world of matter, versus what is happening at the quantum level, has been described as the ‘uncertainty principle’. In other words we can never be entirely sure of our position, or our speed because we cannot simultaneously appreciate and experience both.'
 
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I don't know about chakras but that may come under "noetic science" there's some actual truth to it. Probably quite a lot of bullshit as well.

'Consciousness – The Unifying Force?

There are some physicists who, since the dawn of the quantum era, have posited that consciousness is what unifies the two realms of quantum and classical reality. For example, physicist Sir James Jeans said that because of the implications of quantum theory, the “universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.” His statement still reverberates throughout physics because so much of quantum physics comes down to two primary questions: What ultimately connects everything in the universe? And what is it that causes quantum entities to behave differently under observation and experimentation? The answer to both questions appears to be consciousness. As physicist John Wheeler has suggested, we may actually live in a “participatory” universe, where our consciousness influences reality.



Frontier science, such as: neurotheology, P.N.I, epigenetics and noetic science, is uncovering evidence that we have both a quantum and a physical nature. There are not two realities, the classical and the quantum. There is only one ‘unified’ whole. Ultimately, everything in our world is reducible to the quantum realm. Your body, the chair you are sitting on, the computer you are looking at, the wind blowing against the window – they are all made of atoms (light), and atoms are made of subatomic particles, and particles are probabilities, not solid things. And the ultimate ‘measuring’ or ‘detecting’ instrument is consciousness. This is why what we think and feel really matters and has consequences, not just within the confines of our bodies, but within the world.





Particles or Waves?

When is a particle not a particle? When it’s a wave. It’s called complementarity, and more specifically ‘wave-particle duality.’ A subatomic particle, such as an electron, is both wave and particle simultaneously at the deepest level of reality – the quantum realm.



In our everyday world, it can show up only as a particle or a wave and not both, and how it shows up is restricted by the kind of experiment that is being conducted to detect it. It’s strange, but true that if an experimenter is seeking to explore the wave properties of a quantum particle, say an electron, then the electron shows up displaying its wave nature. If the experiment is designed to explore particles, the electron shows up with all the properties and dynamics of a tiny solid thing – a particle. Somehow it’s as if subatomic entities ‘know’ what we are asking and so appear in our world in ways that best accommodate our questions. This is truly mind-boggling and may further underline the role of consciousness in these matters because the energy that the human presence brings to these experiments unquestionably ‘influences’ the outcome.



Einstein quite rightly said that the moment you are observing an experiment you are part of what is taking place and therefore you are influencing the way that the atoms and subatomic particles behave. Particle-wave duality is an aspect of the quantum world that has been tested again and again, and always proved to be correct (see: The seminal experiment in this area, which is called the double-slit experiment).



Two of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, Neils Borh and Werner Heisenberg were amongst the first to point out that we can’t know everything there is to know about a quantum particle at once. There is a limit to our knowledge. For example, if you know how fast a particle is going (its velocity), you can’t tell with one hundred percent certainty where it is (its position). And vice versa, if you know precisely where it is, you can’t be sure how fast it is moving. By knowing a lot about one aspect of a particle, you sacrifice some knowledge about other aspects of it. This again is at odds with classical, Newtonian physics. Theoretically, in the classical world (our everyday world) Newtonian physics tells us that if we know all the initial conditions of a system, we can reveal everything there is to know about that system as it unfolds in time. The quantum reality paints a very different picture. This difference between our experience and calculation of things in the world of matter, versus what is happening at the quantum level, has been described as the ‘uncertainty principle’. In other words we can never be entirely sure of our position, or our speed because we cannot simultaneously appreciate and experience both.'
The problem with science is that its a man made way of explaining nature and the universe but is limited by its own manmade rules and the human ego. It tries to talk about the same things as spirituality, but it fails because it focuses too much on its on man made "logic" and perspective that is meaningless and dosent exist in the grand scheme of the universe. Science only gives you a limited view on how things really work.
 
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ThePopeofCope said:
Another religious thread? I'm Christian and even I'm getting a little tired of these. Find one of the other threads, bro.
considering the amount of degenerate demon worshipping faggots we have over here.Any of these threads is a welcome edition to combat the putrid that they spew out daily in their gifs,messages,comments etc etc etc.Most degenerates will only change when they see their entire view demolish in front of them(they will shit their pants when they are confronted with death,miracles,pain etc etc etc).And some will never change at all and will build themselves a nice home in hell.
 
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Nautica1983 said:
The problem with science is that its a man made way of explaining nature and the universe but is limited by its own manmade rules and the human ego. It tries to talk about the same things as spirituality, but it fails because it focuses too much on its on man made "logic" and perspective that is meaningless and dosent exist in the grand scheme of the universe. Science only gives you a limited view on how things really work.

Science + philosophy and you can use imagination a little bit, but don't get carried away. Anything else is probably made up. Telepathy is an interesting one, it may work as everything in the universe including consciousness is interlinked on some level science pretty much supports that at this point. And people do report some interesting experiences. Mum knew that her mum was in trouble when she feel down the stairs and broke her leg, she got someone to check on her as soon as that had happened. No real way she would have know that.

'Scientists have successfully demonstrated quantum entanglement with photos, electrons, molecules of various sizes, and even very small diamonds. ... The experiment used photons in entangled pairs and measured the phase of the particles — this is known as a Bell entanglement.'

 
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Amen.

rope2cope said:
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ScornedStoic said:
Jesus died a couple thousand of years ago mate.
Then ressurrected 3 days later and is since then interceding for our behalf with the Father. Also waiting for you to accept Him!

mental_out said:
nigga this literally goes against the concept of free will, this would imply god planned on people sinning.
God transcends time. He was the one who created time and there's no time in eternity. So He's already in the future and knows what will happen (therefore He can prophesize, like He did so many times in the bible), but this doesn't do away with people's free will like Calvinists think. The two things exist simultaneously.

God is mighty, all things are possible to Him.
 
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Mainländer said:
Amen.


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Then ressurrected 3 days later and is since then interceding for our behalf with the Father. Also waiting for you to accept Him!


God transcends time. He was the one who created time and there's no time in eternity. So He's already in the future and knows what will happen (therefore He can prophesize, like He did so many times in the bible), but this doesn't do away with people's free will like Calvinists think. The two things exist simultaneously.

God is mighty, all things are possible to Him.
You can't reject what you don't believe in. Do you reject Zeus' love, or Odin's?
 
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ScornedStoic said:
Do you reject Zeus' love, or Odin's?
I do! Those are demons.
 
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Amen brother.
 
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ScornedStoic said:
Jesus died a couple thousand of years ago mate.
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Mainländer said:
I do! Those are demons.
So you believe false gods exist, kind of like the Romans? You just think they're demons?
 
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ScornedStoic said:
So you believe false gods exist, kind of like the Romans? You just think they're demons?
Some are demons, some are just made-up. But the problem is, if you come up with some false god in your mind, or an object of idolatry, a demon can take the opportunity to fool you pretending to be such god or entering such object.
 
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Mainländer said:
Some are demons, some are just made-up. But the problem is, if you come up with some false god in your mind, or an object of idolatry, a demon can take the opportunity to fool you pretending to be such god or entering such object.
Why would any good god allow demons to torment/tempt people

Inaction is action, so even if he somehow isn't responsible for the demon's creation or nature (which is impossible since the god of the Bible is omnipotent and "has a plan", itself illogical) he is still responsible for every action said demon commits since god could effortlessly stop them without interfering with free will any more than if he hadn't.
 
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This thread is boring af.
 
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Mainländer said:
Amen.


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Then ressurrected 3 days later and is since then interceding for our behalf with the Father. Also waiting for you to accept Him!


God transcends time. He was the one who created time and there's no time in eternity. So He's already in the future and knows what will happen (therefore He can prophesize, like He did so many times in the bible), but this doesn't do away with people's free will like Calvinists think. The two things exist simultaneously.

God is mighty, all things are possible to Him.
That would still completely break free will, if he's actively planning our your life that straight up means you have no control over it and it's all predetermined, thus breaking free will.
 
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mental_out said:
That would still completely break free will, if he's actively planning our your life that straight up means you have no control over it and it's all predetermined, thus breaking free will.
But He didn't plan our lives. We do have free will (I mean, to some extent; we're slaves to biology, sin, addictions, patterns of behavior, etc), it's just that He is everywhere. He's in the past, in the present and in the future simultaneously.

We can't comprehend God's or eternity's atemporality because we are currently temporal beings. We work 100% based on time. But God is not like that.
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Why would any good god allow demons to torment/tempt people
We deserve much worse than merely being tormented by demons. He gives us a chance to be spared from what we truly deserve. Just accept Christ.

Also, if you accepted Christ and knows better (through reading the bible and following what's there to your best capacity) no demon will torment you anyway.
 
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Mainländer said:
But He didn't plan our lives. We do have free will (I mean, to some extent; we're slaves to biology, sin, addictions, patterns of behavior, etc), it's just that He is everywhere. He's in the past, in the present and in the future simultaneously.

We can't comprehend God's or eternity's atemporality because we are currently temporal beings. We work 100% based on time. But God is not like that.

We deserve much worse than merely being tormented by demons. He gives us a chance to be spared from what we truly deserve. Just accept Christ.

Also, if you accepted Christ and knows better (through reading the bible and following what's there to your best capacity) no demon will torment you anyway.
Okay but the person I was replying to was claiming god plans out everyones lives, which is dumb. also the bible never really says he transcends time to that extent, beyond 1000 years being a day to god which pretty much just means time isn't that relevant because he's eternal. Certainly doesn't say he exists in the future or any of that shit.
 
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mental_out said:
Okay but the person I was replying to was claiming god plans out everyones lives, which is dumb.
Calvinists think that. They think God already decided who'll be saved and who won't since the beginning of times. We're just His little robots according to them.

mental_out said:
also the bible never really says he transcends time to that extent, beyond 1000 years being a day to god which pretty much just means time isn't that relevant because he's eternal. Certainly doesn't say he exists in the future or any of that shit.
But we can infer it through many passages and especially through prophecy. How can God know the future if He isn't there/seeing it?

God permeates everything that exists and all times as well. It's mind-blowing but this is my God.
 

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