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Experiment Religouscels - Why do you continue to believe?

That's false. You're an idiot.
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Rude tbh. Explain banana slugs or any other hermaphroditic species
 
Rude tbh. Explain banana slugs
Hermaphrodite. It's a fusion of both genders. Not uncommon in certain animal species. Also some animals can swap genders. But theres only 2.
 
I'd say at maybe 14 years old I stopped believing in God.
 
Hermaphrodite. It's a fusion of both genders. Not uncommon in certain animal species. Also some animals can swap genders. But theres only 2.
It can't be a fusion if there was no distinction down the line to begin with. Hermaphroditic species technically have no distinct sexes
 
It can't be a fusion if there was no distinction down the line to begin with. Hermaphroditic species technically have no distinct sexes
It's being both Male and female. Or asexual.

There are 2 genders you bluepilled cuck


You either fertalize or lay eggs. Or you're asexual when it's just a self fertalizing female
 
It's being both Male and female. Or asexual.

There are 2 genders you bluepilled cuck


You either fertalize or lay eggs. Or you're asexual when it's just a self fertalizing female
That's not accurate. Think hard about what "asexual" means
 
That's not accurate. Think hard about what "asexual" means
It's being able to have babies without a Male. Or rather babiesnwithoutnoutside fertilization

It's a female fertilizing its own babies
 
It's being able to have babies without a Male. Or rather babiesnwithoutnoutside fertilization

It's a female fertilizing its own babies
There's no "male" or "female" in asexual organisms, there's a "parent". You can't call it a female if there's no male counterpart.
Hermaphrodites on the other hand are different in that they produce two types of gametes. We call them "female" and "male" gametes but there was never such distinctinction for these organisms. All of the members of such a species are functionally identical
 
A female gives birth. A male fertalizes.
 
Even if religiouscels are wrong and athiests turn out to be correct they really have nothing to lose
 
Even if religiouscels are wrong and athiests turn out to be correct they really have nothing to lose
It's not about winning or losing or being right or wrong.

It's about what's true. And we see no reason a a species for a god aside from bronze age stories
 
It's not about winning or losing or being right or wrong.

It's about what's true. And we see no reason a a species for a god aside from bronze age stories
But there's no a way to determine the absolute truth not to say that we should just stop trying. There could be an intelligent creator, or we could have come about by complete randomness. No one really knows for sure.
 
But there's no a way to determine the absolute truth not to say that we should just stop trying. There could be an intelligent creator, or we could have come about by complete randomness. No one really knows for sure.
But there is literally no reason to think it's a god besides some books written by Sheep herders
 
Why? Few reasons. I always like to bring up these caveats, I was an atheist for most of my young adult life, when I was in university I was studying evolutionary biology (and i'm still very well versed in this subject even tho I got kicked out).

The more I learned about Biology and Christianity, the more I realized, what was objectively good for evolutionary growth of humans and the various sub species within it, almost entirely seems to match up with Christianities moral foundation and laws. I thought, that seems to be too much of a coincidence, so the more I started challenging certain problems I had with Christianity, the more I realized there weren't really any, at least from an empiricist viewpoint. "Rationalists" which are anything but Rational compared to Empiricists (i'd suggest looking up the difference between Rationalist and Empiricist viewpoints/philosophy), may not align with my views mostly from quite a bit of appealing to authority, but from an evolutionary biological perspective the shear coincidences are too much.

Outside of biology, i'll also give an example from another perspective. Who are the people that hate Incels the most, promoting the destruction of men and families the most, who are the people causing the most problems in the world? The people who have increased hypergamy to a level that has never been seen outside of primitive tribes thousands of years ago? Ashkenazi Supremacists, Marxists, Jewish Fundamentalists, Feminists, Communists, Secret Societies, Elite Bankers, whatever you want to call them, what do they all have in common? They all seem to hate Christianity with a passion, more so than any other religion, and a lot of them seem to unironically believe in the devil and in demons and worship them. Whether you believe in demons or the devil or not, this doesn't matter, the most powerful people in the world do, and they also consider Christianity to be one of their biggest enemies. Is this a coincidence? I don't think so, it's these same people that have infiltrated scientific communities and got me kicked out of University.

So from this perspective, this is the reason why I believe, why I will continue to believe unless I see some evidence to the contrary.
 
But there is literally no reason to think it's a god besides some books written by Sheep herders
I'm sure a lot of that stuff was falsified, but there are a lot of creation myths around the world that share plot elements and characters, yet the authors had little to no interaction with each other.
 
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You know you've lost when you misquote.


And no. You're still wrong. They ALL had interaction for the most part. Also pyramids (what I'll assume is your argument) are an insanely common shape this why early humans adapted them. Read: The Origin Of Conciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind

(Not that thats fact. But is more logical than any religion. Its apx 450 pages)
 
You know you've lost when you misquote.


And no. You're still wrong. They ALL had interaction for the most part. Also pyramids (what I'll assume is your argument) are an insanely common shape this why early humans adapted them. Read: The Origin Of Conciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind

(Not that thats fact. But is more logical than any religion. Its apx 450 pages)
Yeah my bad that wasn't my intention my post got fucked by my copying and pasting. I really had nothing to say about pyramids. Just to get back to the main post, there we're times where I had serious doubts and almost dropped my religion. I guess I'm still christian just because there's some truths said in the bible. A lot of those are ignored by the modern church. I don't preach to other people or really ever try to convince them of anything
 
Because if the western world didn't reject God, we won't be having the problems were having now.

Godlessness creates hypergamy. If we all had one man x one woman, there won't be as many incels, pua, and mgtow to begin with.

If we can all go back to traditional values and importance on family and having kids, wed eliminate most of society's problems.
 
Because if the western world didn't reject God, we won't be having the problems were having now.

Godlessness creates hypergamy. If we all had one man x one woman, there won't be as many incels, pua, and mgtow to begin with.

If we can all go back to traditional values and importance on family and having kids, wed eliminate most of society's problems.
But why do you believe.
 
Because I want another crusade to happen.
 
But why do you believe.

Long long story I can write a book on.

Short form...

Born and raised Catholic

Became atheist because of abusive hypocritical parents

Then dabbled into the new age, eastern spirituality, occult. Spirituality proved here but not biblical narrative.

Once proof of heaven and hell was obtained, then I believed. Way too many spiritual experiences to ever become an atheist again.
 
Long long story I can write a book on.

Short form...

Born and raised Catholic

Became atheist because of abusive hypocritical parents

Then dabbled into the new age, eastern spirituality, occult. Spirituality proved here but not biblical narrative.

Once proof of heaven and hell was obtained, then I believed. Way too many spiritual experiences to ever become an atheist again.
What is your "proof"
 
What is your "proof"

Started with demonic manifestation on a foid I had one-itis for.

Witnessed remote viewing capability and her knowing things she wasn't supposed to know. Very long story. Would sound like a SciFi plot and nobody would believe me.

I'd be dismissed as either larping or being on drugs.

Point is... It was enough to change my world view and position on many things.
 
Started with demonic manifestation on a foid I had one-itis for.

Witnessed remote viewing capability and her knowing things she wasn't supposed to know. Very long story. Would sound like a SciFi plot and nobody would believe me.

I'd be dismissed as either larping or being on drugs.

Point is... It was enough to change my world view and position on many things.
I'm not going to insult you as I believe everyone experiences reality differently.


But I'll tell you from absolute honestly. That is b.s. you can look into lots of evidence. But I'll take confusion or low IQ over just thinking when it comes to your reality. Rather low IQ than fakecel
 
my suffering has honestly made me extremely bitter and turned me away. i see things for how they are.
yeah, im the same, use to be positive til I was 20 bcs I still feel hopeful, but some shit made made me realize its over:feelsseriously: and being hopeful just to try and be let down all the time sucks. So I become completely 'negative'

We are fucking animals pretending. Constantly in a state of suffering or chase. Constantly sad and Depressed animals bc We are stuck between carnal and spirit unlike other creatures.
:blackpill::blackpill: this..is too real, nicely put highiqcel..
 
Yes. Like i said before the easier way to get to jesus christ is by finding out lucifer rules the world.
Just do a little research about freemasons.. More then half of founders of the us were freemasons, almost every president of the us has been apart of the freemasons group or subgroup. And if u read what top freemasons think about the world (albert pyke,helena blavatsky...) they clearly believe in lucifer as god.
 
I'm on and off Christian, sometimes I am apathetic about God's existance but I have never actively believed that there is no God.
I haven't seen any evidence for that.

If I had to say something for God's existance,
I'd have several arguments like the

Kalam cosmological argument:
  1. whatever begins to exist has a cause
  2. the universe began to exist
  3. therefore the universe has a cause
The universe is all matter, all energy, all space that exists. Therefore, the cause of the universe must be beyond nature.


I can see your viewpoint OP.
The world is shit.
But that is exactly what many religions teach us.


"Did you BECOME religous due to your suffering?"
I wasn't suffering from my inceldom at the time. Being a virgin didn't bother me at the time.

"Do you simply think "there must be something"
No, I was curious about different world views

"Do you just WANT there to be something?"
Same as above
 
A female gives birth. A male fertalizes.
Some species that don't have males include New Mexico whiptail, marbled crayfish or Amazon molly. Not all animals have 2 genders my dude
 
I go to church but I've basically given up all hope of a benevolent God. No benevolent God would create a man this ugly and give him a sex drive.
 
I go to church but I've basically given up all hope of a benevolent God. No benevolent God would create a man this ugly and give him a sex drive.
Wide IQ. But it goes beyond a god.

Still. Good on you
 
Its a good cope to think about Stacies burning in hell for eternity because of their fornication and abortions.
 
If there is a God that is responsible for all this misery, suffering, and injustice, I want to profane him and profane that which created him.
 
It correlates with IQ and there are differences in the averages but its not like every religious person is dumber than every every atheist.

There are other factors at play too.
Has to do the how logical and gullible and ignorant you are. Imho
 
I’m not religious but I act that way around family and friends of family. It’s ultimately just to please others and shut them up, nothing to do with God.
Same for the family part, I come from a muslim family so I have no other choice. I generally avoid interaction with muslims outside of family because I don't want to endure having to end up in a conversation about religion with them.
 
Is it all faith (aka you were just raised that way)
I wasn't raised religious.
Did you BECOME religous due to your suffering?
Difficult to say exactly, but that's probably at least part of the reason.
Do you simply think "there must be something"
In a manner of speaking, but it relates to God's true nature. A better way to put it would be "because there is something, there must be God". That the existence of anything speaks for the existence of it's creator, or rather, on some level it is it's creator.
Do you just WANT there to be something?
No, the opposite is true. I believe existence to be a net value reduction, respective of the difference between that and nonexistence.
scientific impossibilities of belief
Extremely bold statement tbh. If you want to make an argument for atheism, your lack of evidence stance has much sturdier ground to stand on, e.g. Russell's teapot. Science can no more prove the existence of God than disprove it, not to mention that there is a very large distinction between denying the existence of an aforementioned claim, and to you yourself making a claim asserting the impossibility of something for which you have no more reason to believe exists than not. The distinction I'm referring to is the difference between "does not" and "cannot".

If I assert that God does in fact exist, and then you proceed to deny this, all you're doing is refuting my previous claim. However if you go on to declare that God cannot exist, then I fail to see how your argument differs terribly from mine in it's nature, neither can be proven with tangible evidence and both are taken on faith. The only difference I can see present is perhaps a varying take on epistemology, but that's ultimately besides the point I'm trying to make.
Also what is your faith?
Christian Gnostic
 
Is it all faith (aka you were just raised that way)

Did you BECOME religous due to your suffering?

Do you simply think "there must be something"

Do you just WANT there to be something?


I'm curious. As I became atheist around 12 or 13 due to severe depression caused by bullying and just general stress.

A lot of my lack of believe comes down to the whole zero evidence and scientific impossibilities of belief.



Also what is your faith?
Honestly, it's fear. For me anyways. This fear has been reinforced in my life by events. A sort of karma.

I'm very aware is stupid, I have no evidence, etc but hey man I just believe.

Honestly, I wish Christians had a big and strong community like Islam. We don't though. That would be another reason for me too, to be in a community of like minded people that look out for each other.
 
Seriously religion is one of the biggest copes in existence. If you want to believe in some sky daddy be my guest. As long as you don't try and force your BS beliefs onto the rest of us I couldn't care less what you believe in.

Well, the problem is that you can't have both of those type of beliefs existing side by side. If it isn't religious people who are imposing their views on society, it is the atheists who are going to do it and they have been doing that for decades. All your "entertainment" is actually atheistic, new world order propaganda. Atheists will spare nothing to convert the world to their point of view and i think inceldom is partly an effect of their propaganda in the first place.

After all most incels are atheist, and their suffering is proportionate to the belief life has no meaning and that missing out on "happiness" in this world means one's purpose for existing is gone.

I mean, why not kill yourself or go on a murder spree? What difference does it make? Existence has no purpose and morality is a cope. Nihilism is just the inevitable consequence of atheism no matter how much the fedora people like to pretend otherwise.

Nietzsche understood that but he was a smarter kind of atheist than what we have today:

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2010/05/believe-it-or-not

Modern atheists are a joke which is why religion is making a come back. Their great leader Sam Harris got absolutely butchered by a Christian:

https://thinkingmatters.org.nz/2011...aig-thrashed-sam-harris-like-a-naughty-puppy/
 
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I believe in an incompetent, idiotic and retarded demiurge that is still taking a beginner course in "Universe Creation" at the Cosmological Divinity School, and this is his work.
 
I think the biggest problem is that Christianity doesn't really do a good job in explaining why evil exists. The best explanation i ever came across is the following:

http://www.sophia-perennis.com/evil.pdf

Especially this passage:

The Absolute by definition includes the Infinite — their common content being Perfection or the Good — and the Infinite in its turn gives rise, at the degree of that "lesser Absolute" that is Being, to ontological All-Possibility. Being cannot not include efficient Possibility, because it cannot prevent the Absolute from including the Infinite. Possibility has so to speak two dimensions, one "horizontal" and one "descending," or one "qualitative" and one "quantitative," analogically or metaphorically speaking. The first contains the indefinitely diverse qualities and archetypes, whereas the second projects them in the direction of "nothingness" or impossibility. In drawing away from its source — namely pure Being — the second dimension on the one hand coagulates the qualities and archetypes, and on the other manifests their contraries; whence ultimately the phenomenon of contrastive manifestation, and consequently of evil. Being, which coincides with the personal God, cannot prevent evil because, as we have said, It cannot abolish, and could not wish to abolish, the Infinitude of the pure Absolute.

God is an "Absolute" something, because that is the only alternative to an "absolute" nothingness, which cannot be by definition. Being Absolute, God is also Perfect and Good, but also Infinite. Infinity implies that which is not perfect and good, since infinity must include every possibility. That which is not perfect and not good cannot exist within God, so it is "projected" onto another level of reality, a lower one, which is what we call the world.

So the reason evil and suffering exists in our lives is because God cannot not be what he is and his nature necessitates the existence of the created order. So he cannot "change" how things work down here, but he can extend a mean by which manifested creatures can return to him which are the various religions, as well as earthly trials themselves.
 
A good way to think about death is this: what was it like before you were born? Eternal nothingness. Nothing. Then all the sudden life sprouted thanks to biology.

Its scary. But theres nothing to fear
Another thing to point out, affirming the existence of God doesn't directly imply a belief in the continuity of your personal consciousness after the onset of death, the topic can be very ambiguous.

It's experiences themselves which are scary, not their absence.
 
I'm not going to insult you as I believe everyone experiences reality differently.


But I'll tell you from absolute honestly. That is b.s. you can look into lots of evidence. But I'll take confusion or low IQ over just thinking when it comes to your reality. Rather low IQ than fakecel

can you tell me my dream and the interpretation of it? Like in the book of Daniel? Knew someone with that ability...
 
Everyone loves blaming god for all things going wrong in their life.

You do know there’s satan right? His number one goal is to destroy you and make you miserable.

Anyways... it’s illogical to beleive there isn’t a god. I can prove it.

Something has to create something.

Something cannot create itself.

Something cannot just wish itself into existence.

Therefore, the first something was created by a creator.

The Big Bang theory was invented by Satanic Freemason Scientiest to push the atheist agenda.

The Big Bang theory is laughable... a random explosion of existence out of nowhere?? Lol

Well... who or what created that first explosion of existence? A creator. Yet they conventiently stop asking questions about the start of the Big Bang just to fulfill their agenda.
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Add to that list every incel who went ER after not being able to satisfy their own needs which god created in the first place. :feelskek::feelsthink::feelsLSD:
 
Is it all faith (aka you were just raised that way)

Did you BECOME religous due to your suffering?

Do you simply think "there must be something"

Do you just WANT there to be something?


I'm curious. As I became atheist around 12 or 13 due to severe depression caused by bullying and just general stress.

A lot of my lack of believe comes down to the whole zero evidence and scientific impossibilities of belief.



Also what is your faith?
Let me ask you a question: how do you define religion?
 

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