Serious Religion is the enslavement of your soul

[Icarus]

It is built on cowardice and fear.

Either obey or get punished for all eternity.

What it teaches is a slave mindset. Where everyone else decides who and what you're supposed to be.

Any personality you once had is gone, and you are brainwashed into becoming a working drone.

Your mind is filled with self hatred. It becomes blank. You lose your dreams. You lose yourself. Pretending to be something you're not.

You will go back on your word, and use anything to justify why you are so empty inside, when the reality is that you sold your soul to the church. To your masters.

Praying with pedophiles and grifters.

Preaching self righteousness for a god that is morally reprehensible.

 

[AutistSupremacist]

I'd be religious if I enjoyed my life and had teen love

 

[Icarus]

It's like poetry, it rhymes

 

[Icarus]

I'd be religious if I enjoyed my life and had teen love

It wouldn't be tbh. Everything is fake and hollow here. The god of this world is incapable of creating unconditional love, which is why everything is shit.

 

[LUCK]

morally reprehensible.

Define what is moral and give anyone a single reason not to plainly reject it coming from a mortal man

 

[Maocel]

fck those christcuck zoomer niggers who go to church and can fuck the church sluts for free

 

[Finis Est]

Rule of thumb, if it's man made it's a scam.

 

[zd60]

all religion is bullshit to me

 

[ParasiteToSociety]

all religion is bullshit to me

 

[deleted fren]

It's a necessary tool for sustaining social order. You need a dogma in place that can't be questioned. When you allow someone to oppose that dogma, then the entire system begins to erode as other conflicting ideologies begin to arise. Even without religion, another ideology will take its place. I favor traditional religion as certain elements could punish foids degeneracy.

 

[Giracel]

Any personality you once had is gone, and you are brainwashed into becoming a working drone.

Your mind is filled with self hatred. It becomes blank. You lose your dreams. You lose yourself. Pretending to be something you're not.

These are very valid points. But I know there's some people here who disagree. Religion helps them cope, and at the end of the day we have to let people do what works for them.

 

[Icarus]

fck those christcuck zoomer niggers who go to church and can fuck the church sluts for free

I want to piss in Mary's mouth

 

[Icarus]

Rule of thumb, if it's man made it's a scam.

Trvth nvke

 

[Icarus]

all religion is bullshit to me

Even the priests know it is as well. That's why they're degenerates behind the scenes.

 

[zd60]

Even the priests know it is as well. That's why they're degenerates behind the scenes.

exactly but most people are degenerates in this world just to varying degrees no ones sane in this wild fucked up word

 

[Icarus]

It's a necessary tool for sustaining social order. You need a dogma in place that can't be questioned. When you allow someone to oppose that dogma, then the entire system begins to erode as other conflicting ideologies begin to arise. Even without religion, another ideology will take its place. I favor traditional religion as certain elements could punish foids degeneracy.

I believe in chaos

Society should not function on how others interpret life. I wish everyone would just be themselves.

 

[FuckYou]

I'd be religious if I enjoyed my life and had teen love

I wouldn’t.

all religion is bullshit to me

 

[Icarus]

These are very valid points. But I know there's some people here who disagree. Religion helps them cope, and at the end of the day we have to let people do what works for them.

I understand that it helps people cope, but if it's delusional then I must call it out regardless.

 

[Icarus]

exactly but most people are degenerates in this world just to varying degrees no ones sane in this wild fucked up word

High IQ

And exactly

 

[Icarus]

Define what is moral and give anyone a single reason not to plainly reject it coming from a mortal man

I am what I believe. I am not what this world believes.

 

[Giracel]

I understand that it helps people cope, but if it's delusional then I must call it out regardless.

I was talking with a user who said Halloween was demonic. I just see it as a day to dress up in silly costumes, and it hurts me I don't have a gf to do that with. I don't really care about the symbolism.

 

[Excalibur]

You're talking about Abrahamism, not religion as a whole.

 

[Icarus]

I was talking with a user who said Halloween was demonic. I just see it as a day to dress up in silly costumes, and it hurts me I don't have a gf to do that with. I don't really care about the symbolism.

I believe in Satan so I am biased

 

[Icarus]

You're talking about Abrahamism, not religion as a whole.

Cope

 

[Excalibur]

Cope

Not cope. Not all religions believe in an omnipotent deity who sends people to hell for not following his arbitrary moral laws.

You’re clearly not very educated.

 

[Icarus]

Not cope. Not all religions believe in an omnipotent deity who sends people to hell for not following his arbitrary moral laws.

You’re clearly not very educated.

And you're clearly a dunce. News flash not everyone believes in something who looks down on you.

 

[Excalibur]

And you're clearly a dunce. News flash not everyone believes in something who looks down on you.

What does that have to do with anything? I pointed out your ignorance because you assume that all religions are bound by strict dogmas enforced by divine punishment, like the abrahamic religions.

Faith is another matter.

 

[Icarus]

What does that have to do with anything? I pointed out your ignorance because you assume that all religions are bound by strict dogmas enforced by divine punishment, like the abrahamic religions.

Faith is another matter.

Faith is believing in something blindly.

It has to do with everything. What you believe is what someone else believes. That is your religion.

 

[Icarus]

If you had even an ounce of a braincel you would not even insult me.

 

[Excalibur]

Faith is believing in something blindly.

It has to do with everything. What you believe is what someone else believes. That is your religion.

You’re changing the subject.

Your criticism of religion relates to its alleged dependence on the fear of divine retribution, which is true for the abrahamic religions, but not all. That is what I was trying to point out.

 

[Icarus]

You’re changing the subject.

Your criticism of religion relates to its alleged dependence on the fear of divine retribution, which is true for the abrahamic religions, but not all. That is what I was trying to point out.

Then give me an example of otherwise?

In Buddhism you just get reincarnated over and over again.

 

[Excalibur]

Then give me an example of otherwise?

In animistic religions such as Indo-European paganism, religion is simply a reflection of the natural world. All things, both living and non-living, have a spiritual meaning and are connected to the gods, each representing different aspects of the universe. It is all about respecting these spirits, connecting with them and communicating with them. There is no strict dogma telling people that they must pray to x god or they will burn forever. It all depends on the individual.

It should also be noted that Paganism does not believe that everyone is born evil and must dedicate their lives to atonement, as Christianity does, leading to constant self-denial and guilt. Paganism is simply about finding one's place in the cosmic order of things, rather than obeying the whim of a distant, tyrannical and all-powerful god.

 

[Icarus]

In animistic religions such as Indo-European paganism, religion is simply a reflection of the natural world. All things, both living and non-living, have a spiritual meaning and are connected to the gods, each representing different aspects of the universe. It is all about respecting these spirits, connecting with them and communicating with them. There is no strict dogma telling people that they must pray to x god or they will burn forever. It all depends on the individual.

It should also be noted that Paganism does not believe that everyone is born evil and must dedicate their lives to atonement, as Christianity does, leading to constant self-denial and guilt. Paganism is simply about finding one's place in the cosmic order of things, rather than obeying the whim of a distant, tyrannical and all-powerful god.

Cope

 

[Rapemaxxer]

I believe in chaos

Society should not function on how others interpret life. I wish everyone would just be themselves.

Only chad wins in anarchy. Chaos isn't good for us.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

In animistic religions such as Indo-European paganism, religion is simply a reflection of the natural world. All things, both living and non-living, have a spiritual meaning and are connected to the gods, each representing different aspects of the universe. It is all about respecting these spirits, connecting with them and communicating with them. There is no strict dogma telling people that they must pray to x god or they will burn forever. It all depends on the individual.

It should also be noted that Paganism does not believe that everyone is born evil and must dedicate their lives to atonement, as Christianity does, leading to constant self-denial and guilt. Paganism is simply about finding one's place in the cosmic order of things, rather than obeying the whim of a distant, tyrannical and all-powerful god.

Cope

 

[Icarus]

Only chad wins in anarchy. Chaos isn't good for us.

Nothing is good for us tbf

Everything is just on a limited timer until it's over

 

[Excalibur]

Cope

That’s all you got? You’re worse at arguing than christcucks jfl

 

[Shark]

In animistic religions such as Indo-European paganism, religion is simply a reflection of the natural world. All things, both living and non-living, have a spiritual meaning and are connected to the gods, each representing different aspects of the universe. It is all about respecting these spirits, connecting with them and communicating with them. There is no strict dogma telling people that they must pray to x god or they will burn forever. It all depends on the individual.

It should also be noted that Paganism does not believe that everyone is born evil and must dedicate their lives to atonement, as Christianity does, leading to constant self-denial and guilt. Paganism is simply about finding one's place in the cosmic order of things, rather than obeying the whim of a distant, tyrannical and all-powerful god.

Yeah paganism is closer to nature

 

[Shark]

Rule of thumb, if it's man made it's a scam.

To a certain degree yes

 

[Icarus]

That’s all you got? You’re worse at arguing than christcucks jfl

My response:

Paganism is simply about finding one's place in the cosmic order of things

This means that regardless you are still obeying some omnipotent force.

 

[Excalibur]

My response:

This means that regardless you are still obeying some omnipotent force.

That’s a fact of life whether you like it or not. Nature is beyond our control and it’s pretty vain imo to do nothing but complain instead of learning to accept it.

All I’m saying is that your grievances about religion are based on abrahamism, specifically christianity, and not religion as a whole. And no, I’m not saying you should be religious or anything or you’re a bad person for not wanting to be religious. I’m just recommending you have a more open and nuanced view instead of just thinking in black and white and lumping all human spiritual beliefs together. Try to be objective first rather viewing everything through an emotional lens.

 

[Icarus]

That’s a fact of life whether you like it or not. Nature is beyond our control and it’s pretty vain imo to do nothing but complain instead of learning to accept it.

All I’m saying is that your grievances about religion are based on abrahamism, specifically christianity, and not religion as a whole. And no, I’m not saying you should be religious or anything or you’re a bad person for not wanting to be religious. I’m just recommending you have a more open and nuanced view instead of just thinking in black and white and lumping all human spiritual beliefs together. Try to be objective first rather viewing everything through an emotional lens.

No

There's nothing vain about living in a world you have no control over, in which you never asked to be here.

My best interests are for my survival because it's pretty clear how little whatever created this cares.

So I will be as vain as I need to be, and I will do what I decide.

 

[darkie]

It's a necessary tool for sustaining social order. You need a dogma in place that can't be questioned. When you allow someone to oppose that dogma, then the entire system begins to erode as other conflicting ideologies begin to arise. Even without religion, another ideology will take its place. I favor traditional religion as certain elements could punish foids degeneracy.

Society is fake anyways and meant to make people slaves while the chads live free and dont follow their rules

 

[Excalibur]

There's nothing vain about living in a world you have no control over, in which you never asked to be here.

I never said that. Kvetching like a child about the chaotic state of nature is pointless, one must mature and learn to adapt to nature. It’s either that or simply commit suicide.

In any case, we're getting off track. My original post was about your narrow-minded approach of assuming that all religions operate on a dogmatic basis similar to that of Christianity and related religions.

 

[Icarus]

I never said that. Kvetching like a child about the chaotic state of nature is pointless, one must mature and learn to adapt to nature. It’s either that or simply commit suicide.

Just adapt brooo

In any case, we're getting off track. My original post was about your narrow-minded approach of assuming that all religions operate on a dogmatic basis similar to that of Christianity and related religions.

Nigga most of them are. It's used to control people and society.

 

[Caichan]

i hate religion aswell, it holds us back. the only good thing about religion is how it treated women. i wish christcucks weren’t lukewarm and used the verses from the bible to put women in their place

 

[Excalibur]

Just adapt brooo

Any other alternative then besides suicide?

Just adapt brooo

Nigga most of them are. It's used to control people and society.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

I just explained to you that some religious beliefs, such as paganism, have no dogmas or structures. They are simply spiritual beliefs and traditions that people developed naturally over the course of history to make sense of and connect with the world around them. They predate any notion of the state or mass society.

 

[Super Nigger Boy]

all religion is bullshit to me

all religions are cope mechanisms

 

[RuudVanNistelrooy]

I want to piss in Mary's mouth

Only Catholics and Orthodox believe in Mary nonsense.

 

[Icarus]

i hate religion aswell, it holds us back. the only good thing about religion is how it treated women. i wish christcucks weren’t lukewarm and used the verses from the bible to put women in their place

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