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Religion is a cope for the downtrodden

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Why do you think there's less religious people in first world countries than in third world ones? Because people who have their needs met don't need to cope as much. People living in squalor need to cope just to make it through another day. They need to cope that if this life isn't good then at least the next will be.
All I see is people meeting every Sunday to get their weekly motivational speech so that they don't lose hope about life. Religion is one big cope that romanticizes your plight to make you feel like whatever you went through or are going through are all for a bigger purpose. Shit doesn't work. Everything is random there's no actual purpose to anything. There's predators and victims in every corner of the world; it happens all the time. Sometimes there's justice but many times there's not.
 
God is real and he's saving a wife for me :yes::yes:
 
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I give this thread a 10/10
 
Why do you think there's less religious people in first world countries than in third world ones? Because people who have their needs met don't need to cope as much. People living in squalor need to cope just to make it through another day. They need to cope that if this life isn't good then at least the next will be.
All I see is people meeting every Sunday to get their weekly motivational speech so that they don't lose hope about life. Religion is one big cope that romanticizes your plight to make you feel like whatever you went through or are going through are all for a bigger purpose. Shit doesn't work. Everything is random there's no actual purpose to anything. There's predators and victims in every corner of the world; it happens all the time. Sometimes there's justice but many times there's not.
If your life isn't ideal and you haven't killed yourself, you are coping. Even Atheism can be considered a cope.
 
Really? There are multiple threads of much higher quality, like those of @Edmund_Kemper for example.
He's too long-winded and inserts his life story in every thread, like c'mon man, his threads top out at 9/10 tbh.
 
He's too long-winded and inserts his life story in every thread, like c'mon man, his threads top out at 9/10 tbh.
Brain rottingcel detected.
 
Yeah but not every religious person is a coper, some just do believe in god. Not everyone is a atheist
 
Brain rottingcel detected.
I take offense with that. IncelKing and BlkPilPres take half the space @Edmund_Kemper does and come across much smarter than him. You just suck him off because you relate to his life story that he has to bring up every. Single. Time. Hurr durr I'm 24 and it's over for me, yes we know, discuss it in the Lounge or in another thread, I'm here for the paper or the essay.
 
I take offense with that. IncelKing and BlkPilPres take half the space @Edmund_Kemper does and come across much smarter than him. You just suck him off because you relate to his life story that he has to bring up every. Single. Time. Hurr durr I'm 24 and it's over for me, yes we know, discuss it in the Lounge or in another thread, I'm here for the paper or the essay.
BlkPilPres doesn't have good threads for the most part.
 
I've never paid a escort in my life. I just agree with him on everything else.
The guy is mostly redpilled:redpill:. He is not blackpilled. For instance, he believes this redpill delusion that money matters more than looks, which total BS. A NEET Chad has more smv than a moneymaxxed normie. Also, women ARE capable of loving a man, just not you or an ugly man.
 
The guy is mostly redpilled:redpill:. He is not blackpilled. For instance, he believes this redpill delusion that money matters more than looks, which total BS. A NEET Chad has more smv than a moneymaxxed normie. Also, women ARE capable of loving a man, just not you or an ugly man.
[citation needed]
 
“Religion is absolutely essential in order to impose moral law on the masses who otherwise would be out of control” - Leo Strauss (neocon philosopher)
 
I like this quote from Nietzsche: "To live is to suffer. To survive is to find a meaning in the suffering."
Religion gives a meaning to the suffering.
So according to Nietzsche, copes are necessary to survive. I think this is why men developed to be bluepilled and why the blackpill is so painful.
 
See his threads.:feelsseriously:
No evidence, then. He's never denied that Chads pay in Looks currency, which is way more valuable than US$, he even came up with the L currency himself.

He's a bit of a subversive guy, he says that lust isn't love which I disagree with, hence he can get away with saying women can't love. It's bullshit but I kind of get where he's coming from.
 
No evidence, then. He's never denied that Chads pay in Looks currency, which is way more valuable than US$, he even came up with the L currency himself.

He's a bit of a subversive guy, he says that lust isn't love which I disagree with, hence he can get away with saying women can't love. It's bullshit but I kind of get where he's coming from.
Samuel L Jackson Movie GIF by Star Wars

I don't trust him. But, I always try to keep an open mind and see a different opinion.
 
I take offense with that. IncelKing and BlkPilPres take half the space @Edmund_Kemper does and come across much smarter than him. You just suck him off because you relate to his life story that he has to bring up every. Single. Time. Hurr durr I'm 24 and it's over for me, yes we know, discuss it in the Lounge or in another thread, I'm here for the paper or the essay.
Now almost 25
 
True. I'm a big fuckin loser and I need religion on my life. I need to find a wifey in a church but at my age, unlikely. Still lookin for my unicorn foid and if that does work, I will try overseas.
 
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this is a pointless argument.by this reasoning everything is a cope for the "downtrodden"(as if it was only practised by those who suffer when in reality it's nothing like that), since anything anyone enjoys can be considered a "cope".several millions of royal chads and stacies have intensely believed in the catholic faith,yet none of them were living in squalor or in misery.saint augustine lived a chad life,yet threw all of that pleasure away to live as a celibate priest.

anything that makes someone feel good is considered a cope here,so i suppose chads life is also cope.afterall several chads have given up on sex before and lived celibate lives.i guess life is a cope then too.after all,all in life is going to vanish at some point,so all is cope.


it is true that people stop going to religious places and caring less about religion the richer a country gets,but most people 200 years ago were degenerates,so giving them even more pleasure was obviously going to get them even more corrupt,so it's not surprise.just because someone thinks about christ for 20 minutes instead of not thinking about him at all,doesn't mean much,if they don't actually desire to be with christ.

people naturally love sin and it's their choice if they want that sin or god himself
 
Some people have angst because of religion. I wish the atheist world view were real so we could just die and then cease existing.
Yeah but not every religious person is a coper, some just do believe in god. Not everyone is a atheist
 
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religion is for those who wish for another world (eternal life) because the real one is too troubling for them to swallow
 
Yeah but not every religious person is a coper, some just do believe in god. Not everyone is a atheist
Every religious person is a coper, but "religionmaxxers" are logical, there's a difference between the two:

Being religious - Actually believing in a religion

Religionmaxxing - Merely using religious affiliation as a tool to achieve specified goals, or supporting a religion that caters to your world view or desires

One is logical, the other is not

If some Islamic extremist group came and took over my country, I'd convert in a minute and gladly join them, because it would benefit me lol, I don't have to believe in any of the doctrine, just say I do and reap the benefits
 

Lol dude, I'm literally getting frustrated listening to that woman on the phone talk. I really can't argue with religiouscels in person, I would legit hospitalize her if she kept saying stupid shit.

These retards literally can't comprehend the most basic logical fallacies that they keep knowing

Religious Person: "I've spoken directly to God, I've heard his voice"
Logical Person: "How do you know that, how do you know it's not just delusions"
Religious Person: "I just know, because I know"

They cannot be reasoned with, they're just too fucking stupid. This video is giving me flashbacks of arguing with that religious friend I had that was in full on delusion mode.
 
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Yes because everything you believe is the truth and everyone else is just coping :feelsseriously:
Has nothing to do with me. You can keep pretending all you want that it's just the thoughts of one guy on a random forum. But it's not a coincidence that the more advanced and developed a society is, the less religious it is.

That's because the people in that society no longer need the concept of God to explain natural phenomena they were once ignorant about.

If I told you that lightning storms was God showing his anger you'd tell me I was stupid, because based on what you've learned in school, you know exactly how clouds are formed, what causes lightning, what causes the sound of thunder, etc.

You've probably even heard of the fact that humans today even create artificial rain based on this scientific knowledge.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2j4WEvrJbs


What is common knowledge today, is where we attributed God in the past.

This is called "God of the gaps". We always attribute gaps in human knowledge to the influence of God. As more time passes and we attain more knowledge, and uncover the reality of these gaps, the less we attribute to God, and as a consequence, the less we believe in God.

Go back in the past a few thousand years and there's another guy like you telling everyone else that we need to sacrifice some goats or some people to appease the angry sky God so that he'll end the lightning storm lol. But ironically a religious person like you today would call that same person stupid.

In that respect, every religious person is "partially an atheist" in their own way :feelskek:.

I'm agnostic btw. I think a God possibly exists, but there's no proof of it, and definitely no proof that a SPECIFIC God is the "one true God".
 
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Has nothing to do with me. You can keep pretend all you want that it's just the thoughts of one guy on a random forum. But it's not a coincidence that the more advanced and developed a society is, the less religious it is.

That's because the people in that society no longer need to concept of God to explain natural phenomena they were once ignorant about.

If I told you that lightning storms was God showing his anger you'd tell me I was stupid, because based on what you've learned in school, you know exactly how clouds are formed, what causes lightning, what causes the sound of thunder, etc.

You've probably even heard of the fact that humans today even create artificial rain based on this scientific knowledge.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2j4WEvrJbs


What is common knowledge today, is where you attributed God in the past.

This is called "God of the gaps". We always attribute gaps in human knowledge to the influence of God. As more time passess and we attain more knowledge, and uncover the reality of these gaps, the less we attribute to God, and as a consequence, the less we believe in God.

Go back in the past a few thousand years and there's another guy like you telling everyone else that we need to sacrifice some goats or some people to appease the angry sky God so that he'll end the lightning storm lol. But ironically a religious person like you today would call that same person stupid.

In that respect, every religious person is "partially an atheist" in their own way :feelskek:.

I'm agnostic btw. I think a God possibly exists, but there's no proof of it, and definitely no proof that a SPECIFIC God is the "one true God".

Your text is full of allegations without any proof. Thanks for you OPINION but it’s still nothing else than YOUR OPINION. :feelsseriously:
 
Your text is full of allegations without any proof. Thanks for you OPINION but it’s still nothing else than YOUR OPINION. :feelsseriously:
:feelskek: Ok buddy, I hope God will answer your prayers tonight :feelskek::feelskek:

I know you want the last say so go right ahead.
 
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:feelskek: Ok buddy, I hope God will answer your prayers tonight :feelskek::feelskek:
Again. What you say is your opinion. Don’t say it as if it were the ultimate truth, as if you knew everything and everyone else is just a dumb coper.

Exactly this attitude makes you the dumbest one here.
 
Why do you think there's less religious people in first world countries than in third world ones? Because people who have their needs met don't need to cope as much. People living in squalor need to cope just to make it through another day. They need to cope that if this life isn't good then at least the next will be.
All I see is people meeting every Sunday to get their weekly motivational speech so that they don't lose hope about life. Religion is one big cope that romanticizes your plight to make you feel like whatever you went through or are going through are all for a bigger purpose. Shit doesn't work. Everything is random there's no actual purpose to anything. There's predators and victims in every corner of the world; it happens all the time. Sometimes there's justice but many times there's not.
Totally agree OP, I think religion is one of the main things that would be a useful tranquilizer to the emotional state of defensive and oversensitive people.

Without having a virtual fairy tale or ritual to resort to from time to time, religious people would relapse to the point that most (if not all) of them would probably attempt suicide or LDAR. Throughout humanity, it has been shown religion was an effective pacifier to the emotions of people. It helps to maintain social order, it encourages people to remain civil, and it works as an incentive for people to continually show up to their wageslave jobs. It's easier to retain the compliance of multiple people when you constantly feed them with :bluepill: rather than expose them to :redpill:, because the :bluepill: pacifies emotions and the :redpill: / :blackpill: stimulates the bitter, miserable emotions in people. Personally, I think some people are just not built for the :redpill: and it may be safer for them to remain :bluepill:, because the :redpill: and :blackpill: emotionally (and physically) destroys people. Every single day, there are news stories about people who commit suicide or murder other people, because their :bluepill: fantasy was shattered by an unprecedented event that forced them to take the :redpill: and drove them to react with a :blackpill: action, like they found out their GF/wife cheated or wanted to leave, they lost all their financial capital, one of their friends or family members died, or they were denied of something they expected to receive. The :redpill: and :blackpill: cause emotional damage, and many people are driven to commit murder or suicide as a result of taking the :redpill: or :blackpill:. If everyone on the planet were to be forcefully removed from their :bluepill: reality, many of them would simply become dysfunctional and default from existence. Many people are just not mentally apt enough to survive outside of their :bluepill: fantasy. They have to cope with something that hasn't been proven to exist outside of the abstract. Otherwise, they would relapse emotionally and in consequence, resort to suicide or LDAR.

As humanity is a progressive species, they would need an incentive to be progressive. An emotional tranquilizer can be a useful motivator for progress. At some point in history, religion was probably the most feasible tranquilizer that humans had to employ on themselves. Why would humans continue to mate and survive without being convinced that their existence has any purpose? A progressive species needs an incentive to improve their intelligence and their resources. There may be people who want to live just out of pure curiosity for what the universe has to offer, and there may also be people who are just not intelligent enough to understand certain things. But when people use conjecture to justify their existence, it would just be a defence mechanism they are using to supress their innate anxiety about certain facets of life. What anxiety? The fear of being in the position to "not know", and the fear of not being able to understand something they can perceive. It terrorizes them - The thought of not knowing or not being able to understand what they can see.

When the religious people don't want to accept they are uncertain about the reason for a certain phenomena, they just default to the 'deity excuse' like a robot, saying something along the lines of "God knows", or "God wanted it that way", or "Ask God and he will tell you". When really, people are just too afraid to accept they are uncertain about the truth to certain issues in life. The thing about this terror of the 'unknown' is that it seems to surpass all other known fears. If this terror is left unmanaged, it can immobilize people and prevent them from being able to function properly (see Terror Management Theory). Ultimately, that is why people may choose to resort to religion, socialization and other activities, with the aim to tranquilize their emotional state, numb their sensitivity to the terrifying facets of life, and incentivize themselves to support a potentially meaningless cause. They don't want their innate anxiety to override their emotional state. So they cope with whatever they can to soothe their emotions and avoid the scary questions about life that would make them feel unsettled and disturbed.
 
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Totally agree OP, I think religion is one of the main things that would be a useful tranquilizer to the emotional state of defensive and oversensitive people.

Without having a virtual fairy tale or ritual to resort to from time to time, religious people would relapse to the point that most (if not all) of them would probably attempt suicide or LDAR. Throughout humanity, it has been shown religion was an effective pacifier to the emotions of people. It helps to maintain social order, it encourages people to remain civil, and it works as an incentive for people to continually show up to their wageslave jobs. It's easier to retain the compliance of multiple people when you constantly feed them with :bluepill: rather than expose them to :redpill:, because the :bluepill: pacifies emotions and the :redpill: / :blackpill: stimulates the bitter, miserable emotions in people. Personally, I think some people are just not built for the :redpill: and it may be safer for them to remain :bluepill:, because the :redpill: and :blackpill: emotionally (and physically) destroys people.

Every single day, there are news stories about people who commit suicide or murder other people, because their :bluepill: fantasy was shattered by an unprecedented event that forced them to take the :redpill:, like they found out their GF/wife cheated or wanted to leave, they lost all their financial capital, one of their friends or family members died, or they were denied of something they expected to receive. The :redpill: and :blackpill: cause emotional damage, and many people are driven to commit murder or suicide as a result of taking the :redpill: or :blackpill:. If everyone on the planet were to be forcefully removed from their :bluepill: reality, many of them would simply become dysfunctional and default from existence. People are just not emotionally apt enough to survive outside of their :bluepill: fantasy. They have to cope with something that hasn't been proven to exist outside of the abstract. Otherwise, they would relapse and resort to suicide or LDAR.

As humanity is a progressive species, they would need an incentive to be progressive. An emotional tranquilizer can be a useful motivator for progress. At some point in history, religion was probably the most feasible tranquilizer that humans had to employ on themselves. Why would humans continue to mate and survive without being convinced that their existence has any purpose? A progressive species needs an incentive to improve their intelligence and their resources. There may be people who want to live just out of pure curiosity for what the universe has to offer, and there may also be people who are just not intelligent enough to understand certain things. But when people use conjecture to justify their existence, it would just be a defence mechanism they are using to supress their innate anxiety about certain facets of life. What anxiety? The fear of being in the position to "not know", and the fear of not being able to understand something they can perceive. It terrorizes them - The thought of not knowing or not being able to understand what they can see.

When the religious people don't want to accept they are uncertain about the reason for a certain phenomena, they just default to the 'deity excuse' like a robot, saying something along the lines of "God knows", or "God wanted it that way", or "Ask God and he will tell you". When really, people are just too afraid to accept they are uncertain about the truth to certain issues in life. The thing about this terror of the 'unknown' is that it seems to surpass all other known fears. If this terror is left unmanaged, it can immobilize people and prevent them from being able to function properly (see Terror Management Theory). Ultimately, that is why people may choose to resort to religion, socialization and other activities, with the aim to tranquilize their emotional state, numb their sensitivity to the terrifying facets of life, and incentivize themselves to support a potentially meaningless cause. They don't want their innate anxiety to override their emotional state. So they cope with whatever they can to soothe their emotions and avoid the scary questions about life that would make them feel unsettled and disturbed.
 
Why do you think there's less religious people in first world countries than in third world ones? Because people who have their needs met don't need to cope as much. People living in squalor need to cope just to make it through another day. They need to cope that if this life isn't good then at least the next will be.
All I see is people meeting every Sunday to get their weekly motivational speech so that they don't lose hope about life. Religion is one big cope that romanticizes your plight to make you feel like whatever you went through or are going through are all for a bigger purpose. Shit doesn't work. Everything is random there's no actual purpose to anything. There's predators and victims in every corner of the world; it happens all the time. Sometimes there's justice but many times there's not.
And? Who hasn't seen this exact statement before, even from that quote by Marx?
 
If your life isn't ideal and you haven't killed yourself, you are coping. Even Atheism can be considered a cope.
How can atheism be considered a cope? Is literally everything that you think or believe in "a cope" if you haven't gone and already roped yourself? Including an absence in a personal belief of gods?

If you're religious, just say so :feelsUgh:
 
but at least ppl in the third world get to ascend
 
If your life isn't ideal and you haven't killed yourself, you are coping. Even Atheism can be considered a cope.
Atheism can be a cope only if you subscribe completely to free will. There are things that are determined by god but you have a choice in every stage no matter how little the difference you can make, subscribing to both radicals would be delusional nor determinism is right nor free will.
 
Totally agree OP, I think religion is one of the main things that would be a useful tranquilizer to the emotional state of defensive and oversensitive people.

Without having a virtual fairy tale or ritual to resort to from time to time, religious people would relapse to the point that most (if not all) of them would probably attempt suicide or LDAR. Throughout humanity, it has been shown religion was an effective pacifier to the emotions of people. It helps to maintain social order, it encourages people to remain civil, and it works as an incentive for people to continually show up to their wageslave jobs. It's easier to retain the compliance of multiple people when you constantly feed them with :bluepill: rather than expose them to :redpill:, because the :bluepill: pacifies emotions and the :redpill: / :blackpill: stimulates the bitter, miserable emotions in people. Personally, I think some people are just not built for the :redpill: and it may be safer for them to remain :bluepill:, because the :redpill: and :blackpill: emotionally (and physically) destroys people.

Every single day, there are news stories about people who commit suicide or murder other people, because their :bluepill: fantasy was shattered by an unprecedented event that forced them to take the :redpill:, like they found out their GF/wife cheated or wanted to leave, they lost all their financial capital, one of their friends or family members died, or they were denied of something they expected to receive. The :redpill: and :blackpill: cause emotional damage, and many people are driven to commit murder or suicide as a result of taking the :redpill: or :blackpill:. If everyone on the planet were to be forcefully removed from their :bluepill: reality, many of them would simply become dysfunctional and default from existence. People are just not emotionally apt enough to survive outside of their :bluepill: fantasy. They have to cope with something that hasn't been proven to exist outside of the abstract. Otherwise, they would relapse and resort to suicide or LDAR.

As humanity is a progressive species, they would need an incentive to be progressive. An emotional tranquilizer can be a useful motivator for progress. At some point in history, religion was probably the most feasible tranquilizer that humans had to employ on themselves. Why would humans continue to mate and survive without being convinced that their existence has any purpose? A progressive species needs an incentive to improve their intelligence and their resources. There may be people who want to live just out of pure curiosity for what the universe has to offer, and there may also be people who are just not intelligent enough to understand certain things. But when people use conjecture to justify their existence, it would just be a defence mechanism they are using to supress their innate anxiety about certain facets of life. What anxiety? The fear of being in the position to "not know", and the fear of not being able to understand something they can perceive. It terrorizes them - The thought of not knowing or not being able to understand what they can see.

When the religious people don't want to accept they are uncertain about the reason for a certain phenomena, they just default to the 'deity excuse' like a robot, saying something along the lines of "God knows", or "God wanted it that way", or "Ask God and he will tell you". When really, people are just too afraid to accept they are uncertain about the truth to certain issues in life. The thing about this terror of the 'unknown' is that it seems to surpass all other known fears. If this terror is left unmanaged, it can immobilize people and prevent them from being able to function properly (see Terror Management Theory). Ultimately, that is why people may choose to resort to religion, socialization and other activities, with the aim to tranquilize their emotional state, numb their sensitivity to the terrifying facets of life, and incentivize themselves to support a potentially meaningless cause. They don't want their innate anxiety to override their emotional state. So they cope with whatever they can to soothe their emotions and avoid the scary questions about life that would make them feel unsettled and disturbed.
Great post brocel. Reality is horrifying no matter the quality of existence.
 
How can atheism be considered a cope? Is literally everything that you think or believe in "a cope" if you haven't gone and already roped yourself? Including an absence in a personal belief of gods?

If you're religious, just say so :feelsUgh:
Atheism can be considered cope, because one then can believe that they can do whatever they want without any repercussions (the classic "we're all gonna be the same after we die" thing)
 
Atheism can be a cope only if you subscribe completely to free will. There are things that are determined by god but you have a choice in every stage no matter how little the difference you can make, subscribing to both radicals would be delusional nor determinism is right nor free will.
I agree with this. :yes:
 

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