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Why would got bother to make a human he knew would never be able to start a family and reproduce? Why would he play such a cruel joke on us like that?
 
Imagine being religous and calling yourself blackpilled.
 
He needs to laugh at someone's expense
 
Imagine being religous and calling yourself blackpilled.
if you’re a nihilist why do you care about being incel? why do you care about being blackpilled? it doesn’t matter right?
 
if you’re a nihilist why do you care about being incel? why do you care about being blackpilled? it doesn’t matter right?
Im not really a textbook nihilist, i just chose that name because it fits my pessimistic viewpoint.
 
Some people are just destined to be alone. A catholic priest for example isn't allowed to marry
 
Why would got bother to make a human he knew would never be able to start a family and reproduce? Why would he play such a cruel joke on us like that?
God made Adam and Eve who did reproduce. Every human after that was created through by humans.

OP you can do better than this.
 
God made Adam and Eve who did reproduce. Every human after that was created through by humans.

OP you can do better than this.
What does this have to do with what I said? GrAy?
 
Why would got bother to make a human he knew would never be able to start a family and reproduce? Why would he play such a cruel joke on us like that?
God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil, he creates a movie theater where everyone has a role, some people are meant to play the role of the swamp ogre who causes women to cry, others are the brave noble sailor who gets to plunder all the delightful booty he wants.

You can't do anything about it.
 
God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil, he creates a movie theater where everyone has a role, some people are meant to play the role of the swamp ogre who causes women to cry, others are the brave noble sailor who gets to plunder all the delightful booty he wants.

You can't do anything about it.
This is incompatible with a supposedly just and fair God.
 
This is incompatible with a supposedly just and fair God.
God is beyond the category of just and fair. Justice and fairness only exist in the context of human social dynamics, which God is outside of.
God is neither fair nor unfair.
 
God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil, he creates a movie theater where everyone has a role, some people are meant to play the role of the swamp ogre who causes women to cry, others are the brave noble sailor who gets to plunder all the delightful booty he wants.

You can't do anything about it.
That's complete nonsense. "God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil" doesn't make any sense, not in Christianity at the very least. Have you ever heard of a dogma named "The Univocity Of Being"? It's a well established Christian theological dogma stating that properties that can apply to "earthly" beings can apply to God as well. So that means that God would be "good" in the exact same sense as a human being is "good". So no, "God" is not beyond our judgment or comprehension. Also, God is explicitly described as being omnibenevolent in literally every piece of scripture. How do you reconcile that with the existence of suffering in the world? And before you take the position of Augustine and suggest it, no, free will doesn't exist, there's a reason only 14% of philosophers support the notion of free will. And even if free will did exist, which it doesn't, then it would be inherently invalidated, as God would, by definition (as he is supposedly omniscient) have knowledge of the future, and this is without even getting into the philosophy of time.

Simply put:

P1a. God exists.

P1b. God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient.

P1c. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.

P1d. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.

P1e. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.

P1f. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.

P1. If there exists an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient God, then no evil exists.

P2. Evil exists (logical contradiction).

P3. An omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God does not exist.
 
What does this have to do with what I said? GrAy?
You claimed God created humans he knew wouldn’t reproduce. This is false.
 
That's complete nonsense. "God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil" doesn't make any sense, not in Christianity at the very least. Have you ever heard of a dogma named "The Univocity Of Being"? It's a well established Christian theological dogma stating that properties that can apply to "earthly" beings can apply to God as well. So that means that God would be "good" in the exact same sense as a human being is "good". So no, "God" is not beyond our judgment or comprehension. Also, God is explicitly described as being omnibenevolent in literally every piece of scripture. How do you reconcile that with the existence of suffering in the world? And before you take the position of Augustine and suggest it, no, free will doesn't exist, there's a reason only 14% of philosophers support the notion of free will. And even if free will did exist, which it doesn't, then it would be inherently invalidated, as God would, by definition (as he is supposedly omniscient) have knowledge of the future, and this is without even getting into the philosophy of time.

Simply put:

P1a. God exists.

P1b. God is omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient.

P1c. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.

P1d. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.

P1e. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.

P1f. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.

P1. If there exists an omnipotent, omnibenevolent and omniscient God, then no evil exists.

P2. Evil exists (logical contradiction).

P3. An omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God does not exist.
Transworld Depravity, read that and it debunks all your garbage theory.

Also Free Will does exist, you’re making an appeal to authority with philosophers.
 
oh my god shut up. please. shut the fuck up. stop making these shit threads
 
some people need to suffer in order for others to thrive
 
I am a Christian solely because of some things that have happened in my life that has 100 percent confirmed that God exists. In fact, the christian God is 1000000 percent real. I don't want to go into too much detail but I do ponder on the idea of loneliness often. It is explained in scriptures why some people are just born unlucky, the world is cursed, there is no justice unfortunately.
 
That's complete nonsense. "God is beyond our conceptions of good and evil" doesn't make any sense, not in Christianity at the very least. Have you ever heard of a dogma named "The Univocity Of Being"? It's a well established Christian theological dogma stating that properties that can apply to "earthly" beings can apply to God as well. So that means that God would be "good" in the exact same sense as a human being is "good". So no, "God" is not beyond our judgment or comprehension. … Also, God is explicitly described as being omnibenevolent in literally every piece of scripture.
Isaiah 45:7. Not “literally” ever piece of scripture.
God must will the existence of evil and imperfection, otherwise God isn’t omniscient or omnipotent - after all, why doesn’t he stop it?

As for God being beyond our comprehension, there is a point at which God is beyond our capacity of understanding, hence what is required by faith. That’s the entire point of the Book of Job.

Those principles of goodness that we apply to human beings can be applied to God, but that doesn’t mean that God is constrained by human notions of good and evil which tend to be defined by our earthly interaction. God is part of a higher form of “goodness” that’s beyond our categorization of goodness and evil as defined by our conceptions of good and evil.
 
oh my god shut up. please. shut the fuck up. stop making these shit threads
It apparently captured your attention enough to bother commenting.

Fucking retard.
 
You claimed God created humans he knew wouldn’t reproduce. This is false.
In that case you're just wrong. Millions of people have died unable to reproduce. This is obvious.
 
One solution is this:

"For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.” (Matthew 19:12)

"I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided."(1 Corinthians 7:32-34)
 
It apparently captured your attention enough to bother commenting.

Fucking retard.
someone shitting on the street will also capture my attention and disgust me
 
In that case you're just wrong. Millions of people have died unable to reproduce. This is obvious.
You clearly have zero reading comprehension:
God made Adam and Eve who did reproduce. Every human after that was created by humans.
read that very carefully
 
Why would got bother to make a human he knew would never be able to start a family and reproduce? Why would he play such a cruel joke on us like that?
Because u touch urself at night, mang… lest you forget, jesus was tortured to death without any pussy to his name :smonk:
 
Don't you people believe that God creates everyone's soul?
Soul=/=body

When sexual reproduction happens, which is caused by humans, this is simply how God responds. God tells humans that they can reproduce but he doesn’t force them to. Furthermore, not getting laid isn’t God’s fault, it’s the fault of humans who don’t care for the needs of men like us.
 
Soul=/=body

When sexual reproduction happens, which is caused by humans, this is simply how God responds. God tells humans that they can reproduce but he doesn’t force them to. Furthermore, not getting laid isn’t God’s fault, it’s the fault of humans who don’t care for the needs of men like us.
Sure, but where does the soul come from? That's what I was referring to initially, I should've been more specific.
 
God creates the soul.
And God being omniscient knows all of the insurmountable hardships that a person will face in their lives
 
And God being omniscient knows all of the insurmountable hardships that a person will face in their lives
One solution is this:

"For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.” (Matthew 19:12)

"I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— and his interests are divided."(1 Corinthians 7:32-34)
 
And God being omniscient knows all of the insurmountable hardships that a person will face in their lives
He responded to sexual reproduction.
 
From my configuration at least for us sufferingcels its a sentence , regardless i still believe in god i know my soul doesnt align with the body or my life
 

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