Python worth learning for codecels?

[Deleted member 7448]

Over many years now, every now and then I try to get into programming. Of course I fail since I'm a lazy ADD bastard with no energy or discipline.

Every time I research how to get into programming, Python stands out. So many people on reddit recommend it.

But I've always had a distaste for Python. It just seems so fucking useless. I get that it's good for beginners, and it's good for understanding basic concepts of programming before you move on to actually useful languages. But to my lazy ass, learning one language is a gargantuan, seemingly impossible challenge cause I'm so energy deprived and ADD and lazy. Learning one just so I could eventually move onto another one seems like such a waste.

Though I did try to get into Java and C# at times and those were just fucking brutal, so I doubt I'll ever be able to learn them. Ehh, probably shouldn't bother with programming altogether then, my ADD lazy, unorganized brain just isn't suited for it.

 

[andinocel]

Python is one of the easier coding languages to learn, it's worth it. I'm far, FAR from being proficient but it made my confidence in coding a little better

R and Matlab are pretty cool also, but they're mostly limited to academia and research

 

[Deleted member 21752]

I think @foidologist knows python

 

[Deleted member 28903]

But I've always had a distaste for Python. It just seems so fucking useless.

It's one of the most widely used languages in the world? The most prominent language in machine learning and data science along with R?

learning one language is a gargantuan

Learning another language after you've learned the basic concepts of programming takes very little time or effort.

Though I did try to get into Java and C#

Those are both relatively simple and beginner-friendly languages as well. Idk how much time you spent on them though.

But just pick one; it doesn't really matter. The first language I tried to learn was C# but I got bored and quit pretty early. Then a while later I learned JavaScript and started doing some web development which was the first real experience I got with programming. After that, learning other languages has been easy. The only real struggle I remember after that was when I learned C, I found some lower-level concepts like pointers confusing because they're not really relevant in most higher-level languages. Other than that, it's just a matter of memorizing new syntax.

I think @foidologist knows python

Yes, I learned it just a bit ago. The first thing I did with it was make that bot for postmaxxing here lol.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

It's one of the most widely used languages in the world? The most prominent language in machine learning and data science along with R?

Exactly, I don't plan on ever getting into machine learning and data science, hence it would be useless for me.

Learning another language after you've learned the basic concepts of programming takes very little time or effort.

Those are both relatively simple and beginner-friendly languages as well. Idk how much time you spent on them though.

But just pick one; it doesn't really matter. The first language I tried to learn was C# but I got bored and quit pretty early. Then a while later I learned JavaScript and started doing some web development which was the first real experience I got with programming. After that, learning other languages has been easy. The only real struggle I remember after that was when I learned C, I found some lower-level concepts like pointers confusing because they're not really relevant in most higher-level languages. Other than that, it's just a matter of memorizing new syntax.

Ohh, alright. Thought it would be a hard thing to learn another programming language, like learning German after learning English or something like that. Maybe it's worth learning programming then if it's so easy to switch.

Yes, I learned it just a bit ago. The first thing I did with it was make that bot for postmaxxing here lol.

If you're good at making bots you can make runescape bots and sell them for real $.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Exactly, I don't plan on ever getting into machine learning and data science, hence it would be useless for me.

Those aren't its only uses. That's just a field Python is most prominent in. It's a very widely used general scripting language.

Ohh, alright. Thought it would be a hard thing to learn another programming language, like learning German after learning English or something like that. Maybe it's worth learning programming then if it's so easy to switch.

It's much easier than learning a new natural language. The general concepts are pretty much the same across all languages.

Anyway, I think if you want to learn the best thing is to find something you would like to do with the language after you learn the basics, some kind of project. It doesn't necessarily need to be anything useful or original, just something which may be interesting to you.

If you're good at making bots you can make runescape bots and sell them for real $.

I didn't even know runescape still existed tbh

 

[Emba]

I don't like snakes

 

[ULTRAMAN]

I also try to learn C and Java in the hope that the other languages will cost me less to have that base. But it is difficult, the programming is not my thing. I could understand that the nature didn't give me the opportunity to have a woman but that it will also take away a natural talent to program, something that if other incel-nerds have it, it is something that disconcerts me.

 

[LifetimeCel]

Over for pythoncels.
Javascript much better in every aspect except in data science and machine learning.

 

[Caesercel]

The way you describe your undisciplined ass you won't be able to learn any language at all. Its a long term deal which requires a combination of motivation, goal setting and atleast some enjoyment in the task. Not as easy as just sitting on a computer and pushing buttons. Ideally you should be in a classroom with specialized instructions, time bound plans, like minded peers and tests to achieve maximum learning. To do it yourself you need to find and use tutorials, make disciplined time bound plans, assess your progress and keep motivated all by yourself

You should reassess why you really want to do it. If the reason is not good enough to see you through the task YOU WILL FAIL.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

The way you describe your undisciplined ass you won't be able to learn any language at all. Its a long term deal which requires a combination of motivation, goal setting and atleast some enjoyment in the task. Not as easy as just sitting on a computer and pushing buttons. Ideally you should be in a classroom with specialized instructions, time bound plans, like minded peers and tests to achieve maximum learning. To do it yourself you need to find and use tutorials, make disciplined time bound plans, assess your progress and keep motivated all by yourself

You should reassess why you really want to do it. If the reason is not good enough to see you through the task YOU WILL FAIL.

Great points mate, you're absolutely right. That's why I haven't actually properly started learning. I know I need it to "click", I need my brain to get its shit together and actually want to put effort into something.

 

[curryboy420]

It's one of the most widely used languages in the world? The most prominent language in machine learning and data science along with R?

Learning another language after you've learned the basic concepts of programming takes very little time or effort.

Those are both relatively simple and beginner-friendly languages as well. Idk how much time you spent on them though.

But just pick one; it doesn't really matter. The first language I tried to learn was C# but I got bored and quit pretty early. Then a while later I learned JavaScript and started doing some web development which was the first real experience I got with programming. After that, learning other languages has been easy. The only real struggle I remember after that was when I learned C, I found some lower-level concepts like pointers confusing because they're not really relevant in most higher-level languages. Other than that, it's just a matter of memorizing new syntax.

Yes, I learned it just a bit ago. The first thing I did with it was make that bot for postmaxxing here lol.

can you make game hacks with python like you can with c++?

 

[LifetimeCel]

if you fail to ascend as a good coder,
just move to ui/ux design (much easier route).
you can make good money if you reach the level of having good skills in-
basic html,css,javascript combined with figma,adobe xd,photoshop,illustrator,sketch

 

[sadboyo123]

Yes.