Putin's biggest mistake was invading Ukraine.

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Had he invaded the Baltic states to link up with Konigsberg or whatever no one would have batted an eye even NATO.
Had He invaded Georgia no one would have given a shit.
Had he invaded Kazakhstan a country rich with resources and a 30+% Ethnic Russian population no one would care.
3 easy wins that would have cemented his legacy in Russian history but then he fucks it up.
Most tards here would start foaming in the mouth and say he is a 500 IQ genius but he really isn't
He thought Ukraine was an easy win and lost heavily.
Russia could bounce back and they are adapting but still they were considered a European country but now people consider them as Eastern savages or as Goebels once said.
Mongol Storm/horde

Putin thought I might get the most prized lands in the world and no one would stand up to me.
Ukraine's potential is fucking massive because it has a super rich history farmland mineral resources.
He fucked up in Syria Georgia Chechnya Ukraine Africa .

I hope Ukraine gets ever inch back

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Brootal No Reply
Over for Greycels

 

[Scatius Deletus]

 

[Skyrim]

 

[Emba]

I'm glad he didn't invade Georgia. Then he would have tooken over the FBI and CDC!

We sure dogged a bullet

 

[fullofchagrin]

what would be the point of taking baltics or kazakhstan

 

[fullofchagrin]

I'm glad he didn't invade Georgia. Then he would have tooken over the FBI and CDC!

We sure dogged a bullet

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

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Greycel here may I ask why you reply with my PFP

 

[Justanotherbloke]

what would be the point of taking baltics or kazakhstan

If it were successful and an actual 3 day military operation, it could have acted as a deterrent and strong posture of Russia against NATO / collective West, knowing that Russia is fully capable of defending its own interest through the means of military intervention.

 

[Scatius Deletus]

Greycel here may I ask why you reply with my PFP

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[SyrianSchizoSage]

what would be the point of taking baltics or kazakhstan

Well he doesn't want NATO on his doorstep so Invade Nato states and make them Russia they have 0 strategic importance which means that NATO won't pursue and liberate them.
He invaded a country that wasn't even in NATO
Kazakhstan is insanely rich in resources if he wants muh Old Russian Borders and more leverage on CHina Kazakhstan would be Key

 

[Cryotron]

You overestimate the importance of that western puppet.

 

[fullofchagrin]

If it were successful and an actual 3 day military operation, it could have acted as a deterrent and strong posture of Russia against NATO / collective West, knowing that Russia is fully capable of defending its own interest through the means of military intervention.

but it's not like Russia knew how it would play out. They also got shocked by how weak they actually are in reality

 

[fullofchagrin]

Well he doesn't want NATO on his doorstep so Invade Nato states and make them Russia they have 0 strategic importance which means that NATO won't pursue and liberate them.
He invaded a country that wasn't even in NATO
Kazakhstan is insanely rich in resources if he wants muh Old Russian Borders and more leverage on CHina Kazakhstan would be Key

Russia already gets Kazakhstan's resources, invading kazakhstan would be a waste of them (of course it wouldn't be worse than ukraine, but they didn't foresee how invading ukraine would play out)

Invading baltic states would not work, it would lead to nuclear war, stakes too high (in reality of course the jews are orchestrating everything and zelenski and putin are on the same side so it would not matter but I'm just talking by normie terms)

 

[japcel84]

He invaded a country that wasn't even in NATO

ukraine has been used as a 'runway' for russian invasion twice in it's history both by napoleon and hitler. why should putin tolerate nato's continued encroachment east and ultimately ukraine's enlistment after the us's promise after the cold war that it would not? russia sees this as existential as did we.

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

ukraine has been used as a 'runway' for russian invasion twice in it's history both by napoleon and hitler. why should putin tolerate nato's continued encroachment east and ultimately ukraine's enlistment after the us's promise after the cold war that it would not? russia sees this as existential as did we.

Problem is NATO is a defensive alliance it isn't justified to preemptively invade.
NATO didn't invade any of them it is just an alliance
US never promised anything there were no documents for such a statement it was one diplomat who made a comment that was not part of an official treaty or any formal agreement.
But there was a defensive agreement called Budapest memorandum that Russia said it won't invade Ukraine and respects their territory but they broke it.
Also Japcel, shouldn't you be advocating for the Kuril islands for Japan or something?

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Russia already gets Kazakhstan's resources, invading kazakhstan would be a waste of them (of course it wouldn't be worse than ukraine, but they didn't foresee how invading ukraine would play out)

Invading baltic states would not work, it would lead to nuclear war, stakes too high (in reality of course the jews are orchestrating everything and zelenski and putin are on the same side so it would not matter but I'm just talking by normie terms)

Invading Baltic states wouldn't lead to Nuclear just a conventional war in which Russia loses due to US SEAD and DEAD air ops and they are forced to pay reparations.
Zelenski and Putin are ZOGbots though since both sides have demographic issues yet are fucking their people regardless

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

but it's not like Russia knew how it would play out. They also got shocked by how weak they actually are in reality

Yes and it was surprising how resillient the Ukraines were + NATO intelligence is no joke fuckers were prepared the whole time Putin had no chance I remember CIA saw it from a month before it happened and they said it publicly

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

If it were successful and an actual 3 day military operation, it could have acted as a deterrent and strong posture of Russia against NATO / collective West, knowing that Russia is fully capable of defending its own interest through the means of military intervention.

But didn't he see Desert storm?
How was he was so overconfident? Yes men are a hell of a drug I guess.

 

[japcel84]

Problem is NATO is a defensive alliance it isn't justified to preemptively invade.
NATO didn't invade any of them it is just an alliance
US never promised anything there were no documents for such a statement it was one diplomat who made a comment that was not part of an official treaty or any formal agreement.
But there was a defensive agreement called Budapest memorandum that Russia said it won't invade Ukraine and respects their territory but they broke it.
Also Japcel, shouldn't you be advocating for the Kuril islands for Japan or something?

defensive alliance huh. tell that to the people of libya. tell that to the people of yugoslavia. tell that shit to the birds bro.

if they're "defensive" then why did they bombard belgrade for ninety days? if they're "defensive" then why are there ships sailing in the douth china sea, as far away from the north atlantic as possible?

...and why would i be advocating for japan as an american?

 

[Mitsuki14]

Russia is actually fucked. They lost their influence in the baltics, they lost Assad (their ally in middle east, lost their influence in Ukraine and Poland and Armenia is losing territory to Azerbaijan

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Russia is actually fucked. They lost their influence in the baltics, they lost Assad (their ally in middle east, lost their influence in Ukraine and Poland and Armenia is losing territory to Azerbaijan

Also by losing Syrian bases (temporarily if they strike a deal with Sharaa) they lose their influence in Africa too
especially with Jihadis ass fcuking their mercenaries
Edit: Also Russia actually sided with Azerbaijan by abandoning them in that war. They said fuck Christendom and went with Muzzies.

 

[Mitsuki14]

Also by losing Syrian bases (temporarily if they strike a deal with Sharaa) they lose their influence in Africa too
especially with Jihadis ass fcuking their mercenaries
Edit: Also Russia actually sided with Azerbaijan by abandoning them in that war. They said fuck Christendom and went with Muzzies.

Putin never cared about christians, if he did he wouldnt have invaded Ukraine

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

Putin never cared about christians, if he did he wouldnt have invaded Ukraine

Exactly
RIP MOSLEY
If only you could have saved us
Alas Britbong have destroyed the Earth

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Putin does not think logically. The war was specially made like this. He needs a war for internal repression under the guise of fighting Western spies and agents of Ukraine inside.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Putin was a noname before the second Chechen War. It was the second Chechen War and hysteria about Chechen terrorism that brought him to power.

 

[starystulejarz]

low iq take

 

[Hoppipolla]

He wasn't just invading for fun...

My understanding is that it was similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

He wasn't just invading for fun...

My understanding is that it was similar to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Not for fun but for his legacy
Also false equivalence
Ukraine was invaded for its resources farmland and historical/ strategic importance.
This wasn't about deterring NATO since you can't deter a defensive alliance.

 

[SyrianSchizoSage]

low iq take

Why?

 

[Sir Waco]

Had he invaded the Baltic states to link up with Konigsberg or whatever no one would have batted an eye even NATO.

Baltic countries are literally NATO members, unless you're talking about the 2000s. But even then what would be the point of connecting with Konigsberg since the area is already connected by sea, russian ships sail there to deliver resources all the time ever since Lithuania forbid road access in 2024. Also the conquered baltic population would hate the Kremlin regime and do 5th column shit.

Had He invaded Georgia no one would have given a shit.

He already did that and now he has 2 puppet regimes that do his bidding there, why take over the entire country? Georgia isn't resource rich, it has 2 ports that are not needed since Russia already had plenty of ports on the black sea, plus the georgians would hate their conquerors and become another thorn in the side just like the baltics, doesn't help that you already have unstable chechens in the area who are only loyal because Kadyrov tells them to be.

Had he invaded Kazakhstan a country rich with resources and a 30+% Ethnic Russian population no one would care.

Kazakhstan is already a close ally that provides Russia with shit, invading it would only increase tensions with China and other -stan countries. The world might not care directly but they would view Russia as an explosive bully that invades countries for no reason.

He thought Ukraine was an easy win and lost heavily.

Unironically he should have invaded Ukraine back in 2014 before they were modernised and westernised, they took Crimea with minimal resistance, could have taken Kyiv and installed a friendly puppet, plus incorporate the southern Ukrainian oblasts into Russia with much less casualties.
But yeah the entire 2022 invasion was a clusterfuck since they were expecting a quick win and thought that Ukraine was still stuck in 2014.

Russia could bounce back and they are adapting but still they were considered a European country but now people consider them as Eastern savages or as Goebels once said.
Mongol Storm/horde

Honestly yeah they are gonna bounce back since the Trump administration seems amicable towards them and the war is gonna end in this year. However they are gonna become more dependent on China and North Korea when it comes to replenishing military equipment which is terrible in my opinion since Russia used to be self sufficient and even bossed around those countries in the past decade.

He fucked up in Syria Georgia Chechnya Ukraine Africa .

Syria - yup he fucked up big time, but at least he was able to keep Assad in power for a while, plus he helped in exterminating ISIS
Georgia - wdym? As I already said Georgia got mogged pretty hard in 2008, Russia's goal was to take Abkhazia and Ossetia away from Georgia and they suceeded in that
Chechnya - yea, they had a tough time and I'm pretty sure Chechnya is gonna rebel again either in the 2030s or 2040s when Kadyrov dies and the pro-Ichkerians gain respite
Ukraine - yup, but at least he managed to salvage the situation, it could have ended a lot worse for Russia

I hope Ukraine gets ever inch back

Not realistic tbh, they will keep their independence but they will never get back those 5 oblasts that they lost

 

[outerdarkness]

Not sure if I agree.

Putin is a gambler, he bet that Zelenskyy would leave right away like the Afghan government did when the US left, he lost that bet. Not only that but NATO came together like it never had. And places like Finland, long considered neutral, joined NATO.

But he bet that Trump would win and break up NATO and stab Ukraine in the back. Unfortunately that bet is paying beyond his wildest dreams and western civilization’s nightmares.

 

[RandomGuy]

low iq take

Why?

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[Hoppipolla]

Not for fun but for his legacy
Also false equivalence
Ukraine was invaded for its resources farmland and historical/ strategic importance.
This wasn't about deterring NATO since you can't deter a defensive alliance.

Yes Ukraine was totally innocent before Putin invaded... it was completely unprovoked......

Do you really believe that?

 

[unionistcel]

Problem is NATO is a defensive alliance it isn't justified to preemptively invade.
NATO didn't invade any of them it is just an alliance
US never promised anything there were no documents for such a statement it was one diplomat who made a comment that was not part of an official treaty or any formal agreement.
But there was a defensive agreement called Budapest memorandum that Russia said it won't invade Ukraine and respects their territory but they broke it.
Also Japcel, shouldn't you be advocating for the Kuril islands for Japan or something?

NATO is an attack alliance mate I’m British and it’s attack

 

[glutty]

NATO is an attack alliance mate I’m British and it’s attack

well, nato didn't do anything in the Falklands lol.

 

[unionistcel]

well, nato didn't do anything in the Falklands lol.

British commonwealth UK had a reason to go