PUA = Fake Natties On Steroids For The Most Part

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You know how every guy with muscle on YouTube juices while telling you to do 5x5 or some other gay shit while drinking milk?

That's the same with pua.

Just say the magic words bro. 

It doesn't matter if you are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 or 0....or -10

You can have every girl with my program.

Not kidding bro...

Example:

typical faggot on medium doses

next pick up grandmaster - the good looking loser

he's been caught paying models and guys to write comments for his shitty products - dick pumps, supplements and all kinds of gay shit

the whole world is scamming incels

tinder - incels are paying for superlikes and boosts so that the chads and staceys can meet and fuck - chads and girls never pay

incels are the driving force of tinder 


gym - incels buying whey powder and creatine - 100% useless while chads are injecting mild doses

pua - the only pua you need is "hello. how are you?" but incels are paying for workshops, guides and other gay shit

...etc.

it never ends

the whole economy is built on milking incels in all their forms

 

[It's All a Cope]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwpQs2Z86I[/video]

 

[CopingGymcel]

Example:

Just lol if you think he is on steroids.

Flat upper chest
Biceps and triceps not popping
Delts too flat and not rounded
Nonexistant trap development'
Looks too flat overall

Guy is clearly not on steroids. Impressive physique for a natty, but not steroids.

 

[Homosapicuckus]

More like fakecels trying to bluepill you about the matter of kunfidence

 

[ItheIthe]

5x5 is nonsense. Not varying set/rep schemes is THE perfect way to hit a plateau.

PUA and TRP are so cringy. Just a bunch of delusional try-hard morons who literally only live to try to "get lucky" once in a while. It's all they care about.

They pretend to have a bunch of self-awareness, which is ironic because they're mostly cringy morons.

 

[CopingGymcel]

next pick up grandmaster - the good looking loser

he's been caught paying models and guys to write comments for his shitty products - dick pumps, supplements and all kinds of gay shit

Say what you want about the guy, but he has actually helped a lot of guys get laid or get much more pussy, just check out his forum for further proof. What he writes about is pretty legit (he is red pilled on looks and always states its importance, look as good as possible pretty much).

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/fundamentals/looks-and-style/how-to-be-good-looking-how-much-losing-face-fat-can-help-your-sex-appeal-with-40-pictures
Pretty legit shit. Explains it better than I can.

 

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Just lol if you think he is on steroids.

Flat upper chest
Biceps and triceps not popping
Delts too flat and not rounded
Nonexistant trap development'
Looks too flat overall

Guy is clearly not on steroids. Impressive physique for a natty, but not steroids.

oh brother...

dude is clearly on at least 300mg of test just lol tbh

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Say what you want about the guy, but he has actually helped a lot of guys get laid or get much more pussy, just check out his forum for further proof. What he writes about is pretty legit (he is red pilled on looks and always states its importance, look as good as possible pretty much).

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/fundamentals/looks-and-style/how-to-be-good-looking-how-much-losing-face-fat-can-help-your-sex-appeal-with-40-pictures
Pretty legit shit. Explains it better than I can.

by his dick pumps

 

[CopingGymcel]

oh brother...

dude is clearly on at least 300mg of test just lol tbh

Keep coping with your shitty gains. The guy is almost certainly natural. 

If he kept that physique year round, then I would agree with you, but he doesn't. 

"He looks better than me, he has to be on steroids."

 

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Keep coping with your shitty gains. The guy is almost certainly natural. 

If he kept that physique year round, then I would agree with you, but he doesn't. 

"He looks better than me, he has to be on steroids."

he does copping moron

https://www.instagram.com/vitruvian_physique/

go buy his skype call - $50 an hour

maybe u too will look like him

some natty gains there brother

 

[CopingGymcel]

he does copping moron

https://www.instagram.com/vitruvian_physique/

go buy his skype call - $50 an hour

maybe u too will look like him

Just lol at thinking that Instagram is real life. Instagram = filters, amazing lighting and pump. Most of them take a bunch of pictures when they are in their best physique and then post the pictures of the several months where they are not in their prime.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uidwvPKWWKc[/video]

The guy is struggling with 105kg for 8 reps. You serious telling me that he needs steroids for that? Fuck off, you coper. Anyone who takes steroids is able to lift more than that in no time. "But he looks so big in his thumbnail" - it's to draw in people, he doesn't look anywhere near that big normally.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347NLFcNFXY[/video]

This is what a fake natty on lower doses of gear looks like. Look at  the strength difference.

 

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Just lol at thinking that Instagram is real life. Instagram = filters, amazing lighting and pump. Most of them take a bunch of pictures when they are in their best physique and then post the pictures of the several months where they are not in their prime.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uidwvPKWWKc[/video]

The guy is struggling with 105kg for 8 reps. You serious telling me that he needs steroids for that? Fuck off, you coper. Anyone who takes steroids is able to lift more than that in no time. "But he looks so big in his thumbnail" - it's to draw in people, he doesn't look anywhere near that big normally.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=347NLFcNFXY[/video]

This is what a fake natty on lower doses of gear looks like. Look at  the strength difference.

where is the physique difference?

lmfao

u have a surprisingly low IQ for an incel

 

[mylifeistrash]

goodlookingloser basically only uses TRT doses now and admits that face / height is all that matter
he said looking like a bloated juicer hurt him a lot with women

also first guy is juiced to hell and back, just look at his nipples

 

[CopingGymcel]

where is the physique difference?

lmfao

u have a surprisingly low IQ for an incel

Calling me low IQ when you make low IQ threads, ok.

I'm done with arguing, as it leads nowhere anyway. Let me close with my main reasons why I believe on is natty and the other is not:

David Laid stays super lean physique all year round. If you actually watch VitruvianPhysique's videos, you would know that he is not super lean year round (he mostly wears a t-shirt for a reason). He has parts of the year where he looks shredded and others where not so much. Pretty much what you'd expect of a normal bulking/cutting cycle for a natural lifter.

David Laid isn't super huge, but that's more what you could expect from low doses of steroids and a smaller frame (average shoulder width, small joints and very round muscle bellies, god tier combo). Without steroids, he wouldn't look anywhere near as impressive as he does.


VitruvianPhysique has had a similar physique for years (with steroids people usually get bigger, even at smaller doses) and David Laid is getting bigger and bigger (although not at super speed you'd expect for huge doses of test). 



VitruvianPhysique strength has been stagnant for years and not impressive (not very steroidlike); David Laid has gotten insanely strong lately and his new bench PB is a testament to that. 

David Laid:
Gets bigger every year
Gets stronger and stronger, very strong very fast lately
Sub 10% body fat year round

100% F A K E N A T T Y. 


VitruvianPhysique:

Same size for the most part, apart from gaining some muscle when he bulks, that he then loses when he tries to go sub 10% body fat (natty life).
Same strength for years. Very shitty bench press.
Above 10% body fat for most of the year. 

Most likely N A T T Y.

Yes, they're not super far apart in size, but one has a bigger frame and been working out for longer, and one is using smaller doses of steroids to stay shredded year round. If Vitruvian was super shredded year round and was stronger, I would agree with you, but he is not.

 

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Calling me low IQ when you make low IQ threads, ok.

I'm done with arguing, as it leads nowhere anyway. Let me close with my main reasons why I believe on is natty and the other is not:

David Laid stays super lean physique all year round. If you actually watch VitruvianPhysique's videos, you would know that he is not super lean year round (he mostly wears a t-shirt for a reason). He has parts of the year where he looks shredded and others where not so much. Pretty much what you'd expect of a normal bulking/cutting cycle for a natural lifter.

David Laid isn't super huge, but that's more what you could expect from low doses of steroids and a smaller frame (average shoulder width, small joints and very round muscle bellies, god tier combo). Without steroids, he wouldn't look anywhere near as impressive as he does.


VitruvianPhysique has had a similar physique for years (with steroids people usually get bigger, even at smaller doses) and David Laid is getting bigger and bigger (although not at super speed you'd expect for huge doses of test). 



VitruvianPhysique strength has been stagnant for years and not impressive (not very steroidlike); David Laid has gotten insanely strong lately and his new bench PB is a testament to that. 

David Laid:
Gets bigger every year
Gets stronger and stronger, very strong very fast lately
Sub 10% body fat year round

100% F A K E N A T T Y. 


VitruvianPhysique:

Same size for the most part, apart from gaining some muscle when he bulks, that he then loses when he tries to go sub 10% body fat (natty life).
Same strength for years. Very shitty bench press.
Above 10% body fat for most of the year. 

Most likely N A T T Y.

Yes, they're not super far apart in size, but one has a bigger frame and been working out for longer, and one is using smaller doses of steroids to stay shredded year round. If Vitruvian was super shredded year round, I would agree with you, but he is not.

this is embarrassing

am I on reddit.com

or bb.com?

Why is this even debatable ffs?

they all look identical...

they are not fucking natural

their frames are not that special - yes they are not incel level but still

discussing this is comical

both are lean 100% of the year

both are about the same size

I don't give a fuck who benches more or how much one gains per year (maybe he just up the dose)

 

[CopingGymcel]

this is embarrassing

am I on reddit.com

or bb.com?

Why is this even debatable ffs?

they all look identical...

they are not fucking natural

their frames are not that special - yes they are not incel level but still

discussing this is comical

both are lean 100% of the year

both are about the same size

I don't give a fuck who benches more or how much one gains per year (maybe he just up the dose)

Let's just agree that you can't be 100% certain that he is on steroids, even if we disagree on the certainty.

 

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Let's just agree that you can't be 100% certain that he is on steroids, even if we disagree on the certainty.

of course, brother let's agree to disagree and return to our incel lives

x-x

 

[CopingGymcel]

of course, brother let's agree to disagree and return to our incel lives

x-x

Indeed. I think you make some very valid points and you definitely made me lean more towards fake natty than where I was before, but i still think it's very possible that he is natty. I guess the only way one can actually 100% know is if one knows the guy, but with guys like Simeon Panda, it's 100% obvious from the start.

 

[thetruecelibate]

PUA only works if your a chad.

 

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PUA only works if your a chad.

this

even chadlites will get shit very often when he tries pua

you need to be chad + dressed well + attack at the right time


otherwise, it's game over

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Indeed. I think you make some very valid points and you definitely made me lean more towards fake natty than where I was before, but i still think it's very possible that he is natty. I guess the only way one can actually 100% know is if one knows the guy, but with guys like Simeon Panda, it's 100% obvious from the start.

thanks, brother

let them pin or whatever

i personally don't plan to do roids because my hair is one of my best features 

i may not loose if from roid or i may...who knows

but i know for a fact that it is more important for slaying than big arms