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Blackpill [Psychoanalysis] [hERstory] Why incels favor Palestine/Hamas over Israel/the Jews

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First of all, it helps to understand the motivations of Hamas by referencing history. I bring to your attention the Serbian assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the Austro-Hungarian throne, the act which precipitated WWI. During this time period, mind you, the Balkans were considered to be much like the Middle East is now -- a hotbed of radicalism and never-ending conflict among the recently created states of the region, with all its unsettled border disputes and ethno-religious rivalries.

The reason behind the assassination was not that the Austro-Hungarian Empire was oppressing the Serbs. Just the opposite, in fact: the Austro-Hungarian Empire's policy of ethnic integration threatened the Serbian Nationalist movement by attempting to subsume the Serbs within the Empire into a people that were merely provincial, yet content with the benefits of it, thus depriving the Serbian state of core territories and many of its own compatriots.

So the assassination was meant to "paint the battle lines," as it were, forcing the Empire to go to war with Serbia in retaliation for the killing, and forcing the Serbian people to rally behind the Nationalist cause in turn, making a "circling of the wagons" into the only viable political move for Serbs.

The situation between Palestine and Israel is similar to this. It's not that Israel was being overly-friendly with the Palestinians, of course. But that regional Arab states were being overly-friendly with Israel. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf sheikhdoms were becoming increasingly diplomatically cordial with Israel over the years, at the behest of their American intermediaries who promised the Arab states greater access to Judeo-American financial capital, which left the Palestinians feeling like a people made provincial: no longer part of a unified Islamic umma, or Arab nation, but a people left behind to suffer in poverty and ultimately die as a cohesive identity.

Just like the assassination of the Archduke, Hamas's attack was meant to "paint the battle lines" of the national struggle. It was intended to reinvigorate the consciousness of the Muslim/Arab world through the onus of retaliatory Israeli brutality.

Psychologically speaking, it is much to the joy of us who in our own personal lives feel abandoned by the world, abandoned by our race, abandoned by our religion (elders), abandoned by any unifying customs or culture to see the Palestinian Resistance rise up and literally launch a collective ER against their decadent oppressors, against the rich Jewish degenerates who were partying just a few kilometers away while the Palestinians rot in an open-air concentration camp (literally 40-50% of Gazans are unemployed NEETs, JFL).

It was a strike against the richest and most powerful group of people on earth -- the Jews -- by perhaps the most dispossessed and downtrodden -- the Palestinians.

Indeed, the operation launched by Hamas appeals to the psychology of a dispossessed adolescent, or someone who could never effectively mature past that age due to a complete lack of opportunity. It is notable in this regard that the population of Gaza is literally majority adolescent and younger. And virtually NONE of them have any future.

And it is very much relevant, to turn back to history, that the Serbian agents who committed the assassination of the Archduke were predominantly young men. Gavrilo Princip was 19 years old and gaunt. I remember reading a description of his life, it was like reading about a school shooter.

The only difference between his act and that of a school shooter is that it was "sublimated," or possessed within it a natural constituency of support by virtue of appealing to forces greater than himself. Princip had the benefit of being born in a solid social context, a Serbian nation where even if you were a loser, you could sacrifice yourself and become exalted as a hero.

We don't really have that in the modern West. Hence the analogues act in our countries now is a nihilistic school shooting with no real meaning behind it. And hence the fascination that many in the West (not just us) have towards Palestine -- a vicarious identification with the Palestinians that is borne from the fact that we have nothing to identity with ourselves anymore.

This is the funny thing about far-right White nationalists who say that they cannot support Palestinians because "Muslims hate Europe/The West." Europe/The West hates us too, lmao. Think about it.

Ultimately it's a more of a LARP to identify with Europe or "the West" than it is to identify with Palestine. Our occidental culture is so corroded that it is more vicarious and LARPy to be a White nationalist than to be a shitlib who adopts foreign national struggles as your own while being entirely cosmopolitan at home. Because the latter actually reflects reality. Our homes are cosmopolitan, just another identikit store at the mall while we romanticize and long for the chaos of the bazaar.
 
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High IQ post mang well done
 
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Any support for any group outside of incelistan can't be tolerated, Hamas is low-to-no-inhib chaddams only
 
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It's foolish to side with either side, neither of them being in power will benefit us in any way. Identifying with the west is the most logical conclusion because that's who it benefits. Even historically Muslims have tried to opress Europeans, this idea that we should stand behind palestine because israel is bad and we can relate to the palestinian struggle is braindead. It is essentially tribalist nonsense that is even more pathetic because at least the European larpers are being a tribalist for their own country. You can agree with some of their ideals without being a selfhating cuck to your own nation.
 
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Just like the assassination of the Archduke, Hamas's attack was meant to "paint the battle lines" of the national struggle. It was intended to reinvigorate the consciousness of the Muslim/Arab world through the onus of retaliatory Israeli brutality.
You're giving these sand dwellers way too much credit. You think these people were concerned with the painting of battle lines? Of course not, they just wanted to kill as much isrealis as they could in order to get back at an oppressive regime that subjugated them.
 
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Ultimately it's a more of a LARP to identify with Europe or "the West" than it is to identify with Palestine. Our occidental culture is so corroded that it is more vicarious and LARPy to be a White nationalist than to be a shitlib who adopts foreign national struggles as their own while being entirely cosmopolitan at home. Because the latter actually reflects reality. Our homes are cosmopolitan, just another identikit store at the mall while we romanticize and long for the chaos of the bazaar.
This is extremely high IQ btw
 
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Extremely high iq post like usual.
@The Enforcer this dude is probably as good as analyzing stuff as you are at investigating stuff. Savant tier skill.
 
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First of all, it helps to understand the motivations of Hamas by referencing history. I bring to your attention the Serbian assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the Austro-Hungarian throne, the act which precipitated WWI. During this time period, mind you, the Balkans were considered to be much like the Middle East is now -- a hotbed of radicalism and never-ending conflict among the recently created states of the region, with all its unsettled border disputes and ethno-religious rivalries.

The reason behind the assassination was not that the Austro-Hungarian Empire was oppressing the Serbs. Just the opposite, in fact: the Austro-Hungarian Empire's policy of ethnic integration threatened the Serbian Nationalist movement by attempting to subsume the Serbs within the Empire into a people that were merely provincial, yet content with the benefits of it, thus depriving the Serbian state of core territories and many of its own compatriots.

So the assassination was meant to "paint the battle lines," as it were, forcing the Empire to go to war with Serbia in retaliation for the killing, and forcing the Serbian people to rally behind the Nationalist cause in turn, making a "circling of the wagons" into the only viable political move for Serbs.

The situation between Palestine and Israel is similar to this. It's not that Israel was being overly-friendly with the Palestinians, of course. But that regional Arab states were being overly-friendly with Israel. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf sheikhdoms were becoming increasingly diplomatically cordial with Israel over the years, at the behest of their American intermediaries who promised the Arab states greater access to Judeo-American financial capital, which left the Palestinians feeling like a people made provincial: no longer part of a unified Islamic umma, or Arab nation, but a people left behind to suffer in poverty and ultimately die as a cohesive identity.

Just like the assassination of the Archduke, Hamas's attack was meant to "paint the battle lines" of the national struggle. It was intended to reinvigorate the consciousness of the Muslim/Arab world through the onus of retaliatory Israeli brutality.

Psychologically speaking, it is much to the joy of us who in our own personal lives feel abandoned by the world, abandoned by our race, abandoned by our religion (elders), abandoned by any unifying customs or culture to see the Palestinian Resistance rise up and literally launch a collective ER against their decadent oppressors, against the rich Jewish degenerates who were partying just a few kilometers away while the Palestinians rot in an open-air concentration camp (literally 40-50% of Gazans are unemployed NEETs, JFL).

It was a strike against the richest and most powerful group of people on earth -- the Jews -- by perhaps the most dispossessed and downtrodden -- the Palestinians.

Indeed, the operation launched by Hamas appeals to the psychology of a dispossessed adolescent, or someone who could never effectively mature past that age due to a complete lack of opportunity. It is notable in this regard that the population of Gaza is literally majority adolescent and younger. And virtually NONE of them have any future.

And it is very much relevant, to turn back to history, that the Serbian agents who committed the assassination of the Archduke were predominantly young men. Gavrilo Princip was 19 years old and gaunt. I remember reading a description of his life, it was like reading about a school shooter.

The only difference between his act and that of a school shooter is that it was "sublimated," or possessed within it a natural constituency of support by virtue of appealing to forces greater than himself. Princip had the benefit of being born in a solid social context, a Serbian nation where even if you were a loser, you could sacrifice yourself and become exalted as a hero.

We don't really have that in the modern West. Hence the analogues act in our countries now is a nihilistic school shooting with no real meaning behind it. And hence the fascination that many in the West (not just us) have towards Palestine -- a vicarious identification with the Palestinians that is borne from the fact that we have nothing to identity with ourselves anymore.

This is the funny thing about far-right White nationalists who say that they cannot support Palestinians because "Muslims hate Europe/The West." Europe/The West hates us too, lmao. Think about it.

Ultimately it's a more of a LARP to identify with Europe or "the West" than it is to identify with Palestine. Our occidental culture is so corroded that it is more vicarious and LARPy to be a White nationalist than to be a shitlib who adopts foreign national struggles as your own while being entirely cosmopolitan at home. Because the latter actually reflects reality. Our homes are cosmopolitan, just another identikit store at the mall while we romanticize and long for the chaos of the bazaar.
Low iq post.(((((Hamas))))) is controlled opposition like al-qaeda,isis or taliban or any other ((((terrorist))))) group jewish elites use them as pawns in their great game of geopolitical chess.Violent actions of Hamas do nothing but discredit the palestinian cause in the eyes of stupid GOYs
 
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the jews control the western world

(the same western world that treats incels like they are less than human)
 
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I prefer Israel over Hamas I kinda don't want to get brutally murdered >.>
 
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First of all, it helps to understand the motivations of Hamas by referencing history. I bring to your attention the Serbian assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the Austro-Hungarian throne, the act which precipitated WWI. During this time period, mind you, the Balkans were considered to be much like the Middle East is now -- a hotbed of radicalism and never-ending conflict among the recently created states of the region, with all its unsettled border disputes and ethno-religious rivalries.

The reason behind the assassination was not that the Austro-Hungarian Empire was oppressing the Serbs. Just the opposite, in fact: the Austro-Hungarian Empire's policy of ethnic integration threatened the Serbian Nationalist movement by attempting to subsume the Serbs within the Empire into a people that were merely provincial, yet content with the benefits of it, thus depriving the Serbian state of core territories and many of its own compatriots.

So the assassination was meant to "paint the battle lines," as it were, forcing the Empire to go to war with Serbia in retaliation for the killing, and forcing the Serbian people to rally behind the Nationalist cause in turn, making a "circling of the wagons" into the only viable political move for Serbs.

The situation between Palestine and Israel is similar to this. It's not that Israel was being overly-friendly with the Palestinians, of course. But that regional Arab states were being overly-friendly with Israel. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf sheikhdoms were becoming increasingly diplomatically cordial with Israel over the years, at the behest of their American intermediaries who promised the Arab states greater access to Judeo-American financial capital, which left the Palestinians feeling like a people made provincial: no longer part of a unified Islamic umma, or Arab nation, but a people left behind to suffer in poverty and ultimately die as a cohesive identity.

Just like the assassination of the Archduke, Hamas's attack was meant to "paint the battle lines" of the national struggle. It was intended to reinvigorate the consciousness of the Muslim/Arab world through the onus of retaliatory Israeli brutality.

Psychologically speaking, it is much to the joy of us who in our own personal lives feel abandoned by the world, abandoned by our race, abandoned by our religion (elders), abandoned by any unifying customs or culture to see the Palestinian Resistance rise up and literally launch a collective ER against their decadent oppressors, against the rich Jewish degenerates who were partying just a few kilometers away while the Palestinians rot in an open-air concentration camp (literally 40-50% of Gazans are unemployed NEETs, JFL).

It was a strike against the richest and most powerful group of people on earth -- the Jews -- by perhaps the most dispossessed and downtrodden -- the Palestinians.

Indeed, the operation launched by Hamas appeals to the psychology of a dispossessed adolescent, or someone who could never effectively mature past that age due to a complete lack of opportunity. It is notable in this regard that the population of Gaza is literally majority adolescent and younger. And virtually NONE of them have any future.

And it is very much relevant, to turn back to history, that the Serbian agents who committed the assassination of the Archduke were predominantly young men. Gavrilo Princip was 19 years old and gaunt. I remember reading a description of his life, it was like reading about a school shooter.

The only difference between his act and that of a school shooter is that it was "sublimated," or possessed within it a natural constituency of support by virtue of appealing to forces greater than himself. Princip had the benefit of being born in a solid social context, a Serbian nation where even if you were a loser, you could sacrifice yourself and become exalted as a hero.

We don't really have that in the modern West. Hence the analogues act in our countries now is a nihilistic school shooting with no real meaning behind it. And hence the fascination that many in the West (not just us) have towards Palestine -- a vicarious identification with the Palestinians that is borne from the fact that we have nothing to identity with ourselves anymore.

This is the funny thing about far-right White nationalists who say that they cannot support Palestinians because "Muslims hate Europe/The West." Europe/The West hates us too, lmao. Think about it.

Ultimately it's a more of a LARP to identify with Europe or "the West" than it is to identify with Palestine. Our occidental culture is so corroded that it is more vicarious and LARPy to be a White nationalist than to be a shitlib who adopts foreign national struggles as your own while being entirely cosmopolitan at home. Because the latter actually reflects reality. Our homes are cosmopolitan, just another identikit store at the mall while we romanticize and long for the chaos of the bazaar.
The Jews were asking for it.
 
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I think that the comparison of Israel and Palestine with Austria-Hungary and Serbia to be improper considering the fact that, unlike the assassination of Franz Ferdinand (good band), the Arab-Israeli conflict has been around since the creation of the Israeli state itself. And much like a lot of recent history it ceased to be ideological in the aftermath of the Cold War. Instead of being a struggle for Palestinian national liberation - the West Bank is not engaged in military conflict with Israel - it's more like the Iranian national security apparatus using Hamas as a means of diverging international (mostly Saudi) attention to Israel as a way to curtail and prevent the emerging Israeli-Saudi thaw, which would be a huge blow to Iranian geopolitical interests in the Middle East.
 
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Instead of being a struggle for Palestinian national liberation - the West Bank is not engaged in military conflict with Israel - it's more like the Iranian national security apparatus using Hamas as a means of diverging international (mostly Saudi) attention to Israel as a way to curtail and prevent the emerging Israeli-Saudi thaw, which would be a huge blow to Iranian geopolitical interests in the Middle East.
The West Bank is under Israeli military occupation and cannot really resist Israel even if it wanted to. At most the Palestinians in the West Bank could riot in intifada-fashion, but the Palestinian authority, as an Israeli puppet, is expected to help put down Palestinian disorder in the West Bank when it arises, and it has been doing so during this conflict, lol.

indeed, the main reason why Hamas's initial invasion of Israel was so successful is because Benjamin Natanyahu REMOVED soldiers from the frontier with Gaza and moved them INTO the West Bank, to better protect the Jewish colonists there :feelshaha:

It is worth noting that there is no smoking gun that proves the Hamas attack was directly orchestrated by Iran. While there is no doubt that Iran is an ally of Hamas, and Hezbollah is coming to bat for it, statements about there being Iranian generals in Beirut who gave the green light for Hamas's operation and such are clearly Israeli propaganda.
 
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It is worth noting that there is no smoking gun that proves the Hamas attack was directly orchestrated by Iran. While there is no doubt that Iran is an ally of Hamas, and Hezbollah is coming to bat for it, statements about there being Iranian generals in Beirut who gave the green light for Hamas's operation and such are clearly Israeli propaganda.
There is no definitive proof and it's likely there never will be but it's mighty convenient. And the Iranian general shit is Israeli propaganda indeed
 
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Low iq post.(((((Hamas))))) is controlled opposition like al-qaeda,isis or taliban or any other ((((terrorist))))) group jewish elites use them as pawns in their great game of geopolitical chess.Violent actions of Hamas do nothing but discredit the palestinian cause in the eyes of stupid GOYs
Exactly. It's all controlled opposition in some form or another. You wouldn't even hear about it in the mass media if it wasn't.
 
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Exactly. It's all controlled opposition in some form or another. You wouldn't even hear about it in the mass media if it wasn't.
This picture sums up the current state of the fake war narrative setup by the (((((media)))))
Hamas created by Israel
 
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If anything irgun and lehi did a better attempt of replicating the success of the Serbs by assasinating Moyne in Egypt along with the attacks in Mandatory Palestine however the Serbs did a better job considering there was no UN to draft "peace plans" aka let the kike have its cake and yours too. But considering Hamas they did the best they could if only their allies took a leaf out of their book and attacked from the North.

As for your thread it was wonderful to read.
 
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It's foolish to side with either side, neither of them being in power will benefit us in any way. Identifying with the west is the most logical conclusion because that's who it benefits. Even historically Muslims have tried to opress Europeans, this idea that we should stand behind palestine because israel is bad and we can relate to the palestinian struggle is braindead. It is essentially tribalist nonsense that is even more pathetic because at least the European larpers are being a tribalist for their own country. You can agree with some of their ideals without being a selfhating cuck to your own nation.
Not all of us incels are white lol. this board is nothing more than a representation of lonely men, not nazis. some of us literally could not give a shit and infact encourage the death of europe and the white race.
 
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Didn't ask grayfag, joined this fucking month you claim you represent anyone other than yourself. Also you don't need to be a "nazi" to understand that 2 fucking shithole countries bombing each other has nothing to do with us,
 
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If you compare the Palestinians to incels you just don't understand the black pill. We, incels, have no control over the things that made us incels. Palestinians, on the other hand, could choose a different way of life, and not being rabid chimps.
I was there. I saw things like slaughtered babies, kids, kittens, dogs. We don't do such things.
 
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If the personal is political then all terrorist attacks and autistic ethnic wars are just the international relations version of school shootings
 
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We don't do such things.
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Who's to say what's true anymore? There are so many lies on many sides. In the last siege of Gaza there was a complete media blackout when the IDF used white phosphorous. Why hide what was happening from the world, if everything was above board?

Granted, the comparison of incels to Hamas is a bit comical. It's bad enough that some governments already see us as terrorists. JFL
 
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Didn't ask grayfag, joined this fucking month you claim you represent anyone other than yourself. Also you don't need to be a "nazi" to understand that 2 fucking shithole countries bombing each other has nothing to do with us,
nigga you have 139 more posts than the cut off for a gray cel dont act like your some faggy veteran lmfao
 
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Ultimately it's a more of a LARP to identify with Europe or "the West" than it is to identify with Palestine. Our occidental culture is so corroded that it is more vicarious and LARPy to be a White nationalist than to be a shitlib who adopts foreign national struggles as your own while being entirely cosmopolitan at home. Because the latter actually reflects reality.
High IQ thought. Made me think, ngl.
 
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True Jews = Udi people

The original tribe of Judah is not Israel.
 
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nigga you have 139 more posts than the cut off for a gray cel dont act like your some faggy veteran lmfao
Postmaxxing is for faggots, of course an anime pfp retard will not have to worry about that because you already are one.
 
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If you compare the Palestinians to incels you just don't understand the black pill. We, incels, have no control over the things that made us incels. Palestinians, on the other hand, could choose a different way of life, and not being rabid chimps.
I was there. I saw things like slaughtered babies, kids, kittens, dogs. We don't do such things.
"Muh babies and whaaaamen" :lul: :lul: :lul:

Ur just like the normie cattle scum that should be put to sleep.

If u believe the "40 beheaded babies" ur just as retarded as the goyim who believe in the 6 gorillion lampshaded shrunken heads kikes in 1945:lul::lul::lul::lul:
 
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Israel is effectively an unofficial state of the US. If the US economically collapses from global petro dedollarization and reckless-abandon currency-printing, Israel would shortly follow, as it wouldn't be able to defend itself from the entire rest of the Middle East (and Russia and China).
 
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I was there. I saw things like slaughtered babies, kids, kittens, dogs. We don't do such things.

"It wasn't a lie," he told "GMA." "It was my imagination. And in my imagination, in my mind, I believed it. Even now, I believe it, that she was there and she threw the apple to me. ... In my imagination, it was true."

:lul:
 
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"Muh babies and whaaaamen" :lul: :lul: :lul:

Ur just like the normie cattle scum that should be put to sleep.

If u believe the "40 beheaded babies" ur just as retarded as the goyim who believe in the 6 gorillion lampshaded shrunken heads kikes in 1945:lul::lul::lul::lul:
His random hyperlink to the Google definition of "slaughtered" is sus af

JIDF software malfunctioning?
 
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I love chatgpt
The OP is 100% original content on my part.

ChatGPT merely imitates the high IQ Asperger prose tbh. Besides, you could not get it to talk about this topic with such candor. It's basically a PR statement generator now with respect to issues such as this.
 
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Low iq post.(((((Hamas))))) is controlled opposition like al-qaeda,isis or taliban or any other ((((terrorist))))) group jewish elites use them as pawns in their great game of geopolitical chess.Violent actions of Hamas do nothing but discredit the palestinian cause in the eyes of stupid GOYs
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