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Discussion Potential to ascend with legit consent without paying and even getting a FWB for casual relations or are these whole subs a scam?

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If these subreddits are serious and legit, this is the chance to many users here to ascend without paying or even finding someone if she is willing to have something more with JBF theory. Of course, in the vast majority might just be a trade and nothing come out of it, but who knows, maybe the girl will want something after it if JBF theory has an effect on her. If it doesn't work, you have ascended anyway with consensual non-paid sex, you didn't pay and got legit consent from someone and as many of them want FWBs, you can even get to have a FWB for regular fucks. (Some of them are looking for it)
There are lots of virgin girls looking to lose their virginity with other virgin guys, or whoever they can find, if you have some kind of experience as escortcel, you might be up to something if you do good with her, maybe getting her to be your FWB or GF and you can finally have what you want and live a more normal life.

Keep in mind that in the vast majority of these subs men looking for someone absurdly overwhelms the amount of women looking for someone (which just proves our whole point in this forum even further), for that reason I sorted by F4M. There are r4r subs for several countries and States in US, you might want to look for them.

Subs in question:


For Los Angeles


There is another sub like these where people are looking to lose their virginity to another virgin person, but everyone who posted on it are guys, if any girls has reached out to them is unknown, the only way to know would be asking the users themselves, and the sub pretty much has no activity. Anyway

Some highlights:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/o0vihw/25yr_old_female_living_in_vancouver_bc_looking_to/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/olz86w/37_f4m_cheshire_uk_dont_want_to_be_a_virgin/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/or4jrb/f4m_f4f_25yo_beaumont_houston_area/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/p46e25/i_travel_up_and_down_the_east_coast_of_the_us/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/qcriq2/19_f4m_nonvirgin_looking_to_help_out_sydney_aus/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginityExchange/comments/qkrep7/25_f4m_south_florida_looking_for_someone_to_gain/


Again, I don't know how legit these subreddits are, maybe someone who knows about them can tell. If they are legit, them this is a big chance for some people here to ascend with formal consent (non-paid sex) and maybe even get a GF or a FWB to have sex whenever one of you want if you live close or can travel to each other's place.
 
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Given that it's r*ddit, it's probably trannies or giga-landwhales.
 
Given that it's r*ddit, it's probably trannies or giga-landwhales.
Looked many of the posts and most of them claim to be short and slim/skinny.
 
validation factories for future whores, their inboxes are literally exploding with messages. no incel-tier man has a chance of getting picked
 
Looked many of the posts and most of them claim to be short and slim/skinny.
tbh I'm not going to go and look at the sub so I don't have a real argument, but "hot virgin singles in your area" has been, and will always be a meme.

Also it's going to be giga-chad-cel only if real. Also just get mugged / doxxed theory tbh.
 
tbh I'm not going to go and look at the sub so I don't have a real argument, but "hot virgin singles in your area" has been, and will always be a meme.

Also it's going to be giga-chad-cel only if real. Also just get mugged / doxxed theory tbh.
Tbh. Arranging a meeting in a highly active area of a city would be the best option for a first meeting to reduce risks.
 
Tbh. Arranging a meeting in a highly active area of a city would be the best option for a first meeting to reduce risks.
The way I see it is that Trying the 6 gorrilion non mainstream alternatives to tinder is not going to get me anywhere.
It's just all going to be bad experiences.
 
Also it's going to be giga-chad-cel only if real. Also just get mugged / doxxed theory tbh.
Perfect for half the users of this forum then. @Broly and @brolylover69 :cool:
 
The way I see it is that Trying the 6 gorrilion non mainstream alternatives to tinder is not going to get me anywhere.
It's just all going to be bad experiences.
I don't know where desire and desperation will lead some people into. Some will be willing to go through a million bad experiences and if they come a breaking point where literally nothing has worked after every option possible, they will just rope.
 
Jfl. This is a load of bullshit and you know it.
 
Highlights? More like cherries. Surely you've seen that subreddit. Or any r4r subreddit. There are not "lots" of any kind of woman. It's scores and scores of men getting no responses, and then the odd post from a woman here and there who is inundated with responses. As it is everywhere on Earth and the Internet.
 
Jfl. This is a load of bullshit and you know it.
Highlights? More like cherries. Surely you've seen that subreddit. Or any r4r subreddit. There are not "lots" of any kind of woman. It's scores and scores of men getting no responses, and then the odd post from a woman here and there who is inundated with responses. As it is everywhere on Earth and the Internet.
Reason why I asked about them if someone here is familiar with them on what they are really about and people are like.
 
Reason why I asked about them if someone here is familiar with them on what they are really about and people are like.

Well, that's the answer there. But you don't need us to tell you that. It's clear just from looking. Or if it's not that clear, try sorting by New. See what that looks like.
 
Well, that's the answer there. But you don't need us to tell you that. It's clear just from looking. Or if it's not that clear, try sorting by New. See what that looks like.
Sorted by F4M to check how many supposed females are there. I did sort every single one by new.
 
Given that it's r*ddit, it's probably trannies or giga-landwhales.
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Well, that's the answer there. But you don't need us to tell you that. It's clear just from looking. Or if it's not that clear, try sorting by New. See what that looks like.
Keep in mind that in the vast majority of these subs men looking for someone absurdly overwhelms the amount of women looking for someone (which just proves our whole point in this forum even further
 
Sorted by F4M to check how many supposed females are there. I did sort every single one by new.

No no no, you don't filter by F4M. You look at the whole subreddit unfiltered.
 
Exactly


Nothing to ask about, simply stop being a deluded coper and accept reality lol
JFL I'm not a deluded coper, I'm asking if anyone that knows anything about these subs and their letigness could answer if they are all scams. I know it's reddit and LARP/scam central but it never hurts to ask as there are legit communities for many things like hardwareswapping and things related. How can this post possibly be delusional cope? I don't get your point.
 
Anyone who thinks the women in this forum are using it properly is an idiot

The women posting are fishing for an experienced Chad to blow their holes out for their first time, I guarantee you they get private messages from guys who aren't virgins, guess who they're going to pick?

Not the virgin guy who is average looking, that's for sure.
 
No no no, you don't filter by F4M. You look at the whole subreddit unfiltered.
I did it. :feelsrope: Sorted by new, hot, f4m, m4f and the other flairs, I just wanted to post the f4m, why would I post the other ones? The f4m post are just from the first sub I linked. The ones are just links to the subs to be sorted by f4m, but I did sort every single one by all flairs, hot and new.
 
JFL I'm not a deluded coper, I'm asking if anyone that knows anything about these subs and their letigness could answer if they are all scams. I know it's reddit and LARP/scam central but it never hurts to ask as there are legit communities for many things
How are you not coping when you are literally here trying to argue - "Well I don't know if this is legit or not, I can't tell, it could be real"

That in of itself is delusion, of course incels aren't going to ascend on this, you thinking that this needs to be asked is what makes you a delusional coper

The obvious answer is no, even on a forum like that the women have their pick of the litter, so why would they choose an incel tier virgin?
 
Anyone who thinks the women in this forum are using it properly is an idiot

The women posting are fishing for an experienced Chad to blow their holes out for their first time, I guarantee you they get private messages from guys who aren't virgins, guess who they're going to pick?

Not the virgin guy who is average looking, that's for sure.
Like I said, reddit is LARP central but some were willing to help guys losing their vcards being "experienced women" or losing virginity together and start something from there, as FWB for experience later on. I just don't know how legit it is unless asking to members themselves about their sucess and if they are incel-tier in looks.
 
I did it. :feelsrope: Sorted by new, hot, f4m, m4f and the other flairs, I just wanted to post the f4m, why would I post the other ones? The f4m post are just from the first sub I linked. The ones are just links to the subs to be sorted by f4m, but I did sort every single one by all flairs, hot and new.

Why? Because that's how you see the actual ratio of women to men. You could filter by F4M and see a whole page of posts and think "Wow, look at all these women," but that's because you're looking through a filter. 20 posts on their own might seem like a lot, but 20 F4Ms compared to 500 M4Fs with no responses is a more accurate tale.
 
How are you not coping when you are literally here trying to argue - "Well I don't know if this is legit or not, I can't tell, it could be real"

That in of itself is delusion, of course incels aren't going to ascend on this, you thinking that this needs to be asked is what makes you a delusional coper

The obvious answer is no, even on a forum like that the women have their pick of the litter, so why would they choose an incel tier virgin?
Dunno man, maybe you could call me a delusional coper if I put a lifefuel flair on it and called "this is your chance to ascend". I am merely asking about the validity of all of this. It's not unheard of to hear people losing their virginity to other strangers they meet online.
Why? Because that's how you see the actual ratio of women to men. You could filter by F4M and see a whole page of posts and think "Wow, look at all these women," but that's because you're looking through a filter. 20 posts on their own might seem like a lot, but 20 F4Ms compared to 500 M4Fs with no responses is a more accurate tale.
Did you miss my message again? It's literally in the middle of the post where I say exactly what you have said.
Keep in mind that in the vast majority of these subs men looking for someone absurdly overwhelms the amount of women looking for someone (which just proves our whole point in this forum even further)
How are you not coping when you are literally here trying to argue - "Well I don't know if this is legit or not, I can't tell, it could be real"

That in of itself is delusion, of course incels aren't going to ascend on this, you thinking that this needs to be asked is what makes you a delusional coper

The obvious answer is no, even on a forum like that the women have their pick of the litter, so why would they choose an incel tier virgin?
Merely asking someone who might know what this is all about and if they got some insight on it or stories: Coping.
Alright man. Althought you are a high IQ valuable user, you seriously go way out of the curve on some of your posts, ngl. I was merely asking anyone here if they know the validity of it, that's all, even though reddit is LARP/validation central you never know what you can find, especially when it is something like this. As for selling stuff/trading deals it is a goldmine, especially for people into electronics, so THAT'S why I am asking. I don't see the delusion on it or the coping. It's a question, not an affirmation which would be coping if it was a grounded affirmation, when the title of the post is literally asking if it is all a scam since there are so many of them.
 
but some were willing to help guys losing their vcards being "experienced women" or losing virginity
Once again

WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE AN INCEL TIER MAN WHEN THEY ARE GETTING OFFERS FROM ATTRACTIVE MEN TOO?

1. Any guy can just go on there and say he's a virgin, its not like they can prove otherwise, and if a hot guy sends them a message they aren't going to be like - "you clearly aren't a virgin so I refuse to fuck you" :feelskek:

2. They are only going to fuck the virgin guys who meet their bare minimum in looks requirements, women don't do pussy charity lol. So at best it will be tallfags getting a chance, not average height guys with average looks.

start something from there, as FWB for experience later on.
FWB LATER ON?


Yeah dude, you aren't being delusional at all
 
Did you miss my message again? It's literally in the middle of the post where I say exactly what you have said.

I see it, but I thought you were asking why you should look at/post the contents of the subreddit unfiltered.
 
must be like 1 women to 100 men and also fakecels only
and virginity is a positive point for women there is no reason to exchange
 
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It's not unheard of to hear people losing their virginity to other strangers they meet online.
PEOPLE, NOT INCELS :feelskek:

We don't count as "people"

I have to assume you are a larp at this point, you probably never approached a day in your life, because you aren't speaking like someone who has lived and incel life and had years and years of incel experiences

The fact that you are even asking about this is whats crazy, and the fact that you can't see how outlandish that is for an incel to ask only indicates that you haven't faced rejection after rejection

You are probably 16 or something if you are still in this hopeful mindset, because this is not the mindset of an adult incel man
 
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Once again

WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE AN INCEL TIER MAN WHEN THEY ARE GETTING OFFERS FROM ATTRACTIVE MEN TOO?
The ones claiming to be looking for virgin men despite of anything. (FFS READ THIS: IF THEY ARE LEGIT) No way to know without asking the users themselves.
1. Any guy can just go on there and say he's a virgin, its not like they can prove otherwise, and if a hot guy sends them a message they aren't going to be like - "you clearly aren't a virgin so I refuse to fuck you" :feelskek:
My post clearly specify it, just look at the subs, there is a bunch of oldcels in there in their 30+ looking for someone. (If they are legit)
2. They are only going to fuck the virgin guys who meet their bare minimum in looks requirements, women don't do pussy charity lol. So at best it will be tallfags getting a chance, not average height guys with average looks.
Valid point, can't disagree in any way, but many sluts just fuck whoever they find.
FWB LATER ON?


Yeah dude, you aren't being delusional at all

Some of them in some posts that I didn't link were looking for FWBs, but you never know what they think unless you verify it asking the users themselves. THAT IS MY WHOLE POINT, DAMMIT MAN.
 
PEOPLE, NOT INCELS :feelskek:

We don't count as "people"

I have to assume you are a larp at this point, you probably never approached a day in your life, because you aren't speaking like someone who has lived and incel life and had years and years of incel experiences

The fact that you are even asking about this is whats crazy, and the fact that you can't see how outlandish that is for an incel to ask only indicates that you haven't faced rejection after rejection

You are probably 16 or something if you are still in this hopeful mindset, because this is not the mindset of an adult incel man
"I never approached" Yes, I just got ghosted a quadrillion times by everyone I tried to talk, called monster in the middle of street with foids laughing right at my face when I was just minding my business crossing the streets, foids laughing at me in a bus not even hiding it, all types of shit, I made posts about it, so don't go around assuming stuff.
You hate "LDAR" retards and after so much bad shit in my life I decided to just LDAR at this point and not go out anymore unless necessary. Because I can't stand the negative experiences I get from women anymore. I can't even count how many times they have ridiculed me and called names when I didn't do anything, like so many people here in this forum experienced exactly the same and just LDAR now.
 
You hate "LDAR" retards and after so much bad shit in my life I decided to just LDAR at this point and not go out anymore unless necessary.
LDAR doesn't necessarily relate to "going out", it relates to actually doing something with your life

I don't go out at all, for the same reasons as you, because I know I won't get anything out of it, I don't have any hopefulness that I'll go out and "get lucky", I'm past that kind of thinking, its just delusional

But if I'm home all day, I'm not going to just do nothing but consume entertainment

Because even though I don't care for going out, I want to have my own place one day, I want to travel (for sex tourism really, I'm not a "sight seeing" kind of person), I want fuck whores

This is why I'm wealthmaxxing

I'm sure you are good at something, art, music, coding, something, might as well try to make some money online if you aren't going out, because maybe through that avenue you can escape your current life

Well of course that depends on the mindset you have, if you are one of those guys that believes in "love" and won't settle for anything less (refuses to pay for sex), and you only want your magical white picket fence monogamous relationship dream (like most LDAR guys), I don't know what to tell you

You're fucked because what you want doesn't really exist (there are exceptions), and it definitely doesn't exist for a man like you

You will have to "move on" one day and accept reality, or stay stuck in the life you have now
 
I read troughs some of it, boy so many overweight married women looking for casual sex, i feel sorry for their husbands.
 
LDAR doesn't necessarily relate to "going out", it relates to actually doing something with your life

I don't go out at all, for the same reasons as you, because I know I won't get anything out of it, I don't have any hopefulness that I'll go out and "get lucky", I'm past that kind of thinking, its just delusional

But if I'm home all day, I'm not going to just do nothing but consume entertainment

Because even though I don't care for going out, I want to have my own place one day, I want to travel (for sex tourism really, I'm not a "sight seeing" kind of person), I want fuck whores

This is why I'm wealthmaxxing

I'm sure you are good at something, art, music, coding, something, might as well try to make some money online if you aren't going out, because maybe through that avenue you can escape your current life

Well of course that depends on the mindset you have, if you are one of those guys that believes in "love" and won't settle for anything less (refuses to pay for sex), and you only want your magical white picket fence monogamous relationship dream (like most LDAR guys), I don't know what to tell you

You're fucked because what you want doesn't really exist (there are exceptions), and it definitely doesn't exist for a man like you

You will have to "move on" one day and accept reality, or stay stuck in the life you have now
I'm planning on taking drastic changes in my life soon. :feelsLSD:I will be looking for cool ideas to try something.
I am 25 years old now. My business might be about to start, I got some contact outside the country and can now bring my electronics to sell and make profits from my bedroom. I gave this idea to my brother, he succeded and now makes tons of money, but only because he is a huge fucking nerd at math and electronics, he buys broken, fixes and sells. My idea is to just buy things from cheaper places, in brand new condition and sell here below market price, which will be far below the prices in retail stores, even though if it works I will be making very good money even if I seel 2 items a months.

I would like to pick the job I always wanted by I don't have the brain capacity to because it requires insane attention to detail and focus, apart from very advanced math and the career to achieve it is not short.
I don't believe in "love or settling" in the slightest. This does not exist anymore and those who find something like that are 1 in 100 million. If I can somehow do something with my life I will not try to find "love/settling" as I don't believe in it nor do I want it. It is risky and not worth it considering how fucking vile women are.
Don't assume stuff like that. I like you but you assume too much stuff away. I've been ridiculed and bullied and public humiliations in front of the whole school/hood several times as kid for my looks until I was 16 when I said fuck it all and have been lived secluded in my room so far. But my idea for reselling stuff might work very well and I hope it works because I would make good money without even going out of my room.
If I get the opportunity to meet someone, it would just be pump and dump. I DON'T want to be through the risks of a relationship. The stories I read online are pure horror on what people go through, and honestly, whoever put themselves in line for something like that is asking for trouble, doesn't matter who it is.

I will be like you, I will try to wealthmaxx/businessmaxx like my brother did with my idea. I already have some stuff to sell, I just have to get them in another country where they are cheap, bring them here and make profit, and now that I found someone who travels between countries to do it for me, a person that works and helps my brother, my chances at success are higher and I hope I can get through with it. If I sell at least 1 item, it will be worth 1 month of salary for 1 thing. If I sell 3 I will be making huge money, buying and selling more and more I would be enough to someday leave the country and make travels between cheap destination, buy things there and bring back home to sell under market price and still have huge profits.

Don't be harsh on your replies like that, man, I've just been through a lot of fucked up shit in this life, like seeing a childhood friend being burned alive by having debt with a cartel and other stuff. Bullied in public, target of mass harassment and gangstalking and shit. It fucked up mentally probably for the rest of my life and now I am where I am. The only person I talk to are people that I play games with sometimes and my mom, and it is the bare basics as I help her around in the house as much as I can, she has an incurable illness in the body now because of a mosquito bite. My life has not been easy. I've been riddled with many mental issues such as autism, schizohprenia, paranoia, severe anxiety... don't assume too much, man. I can be seem as hopeful sometimes but I am completely hopeless right now, I just have some plans ahead to do something, if it fails... I don't know what I will do, I maybe will be moving city to go into trainment to try the impossible job that I have always wanted but I'm sure I don't have the capacity to, even though knowing that I will most likely fail, I have to try, if I fail... that's my end, there is nothing in this life for me. I've been severely depressed and ravaged by mental illness by the last 14 years so it is not as simple as you think. The constant humiliations I've faced in public in front of many people, fucked up childhood, fucked up teenagehood, gangstalking, harassment... it's not that simple man. You are being way too harsh in your replies.
 
Don't be harsh on your replies like that, man, I've just been through a lot of fucked up shit in this life, like seeing a childhood friend being burned alive by having debt with a cartel and other stuff. Bullied in public, target of mass harassment and gangstalking and shit. It fucked up mentally probably for the rest of my life and now I am where I am. The only person I talk to are people that I play games with sometimes and my mom, and it is the bare basics as I help her around in the house as much as I can, she has an incurable illness in the body now because of a mosquito bite. My life has not been easy. I've been riddled with many mental issues such as autism, schizohprenia, paranoia, severe anxiety... don't assume too much, man. I can be seem as hopeful sometimes but I am completely hopeless right now, I just have some plans ahead to do something, if it fails... I don't know what I will do, I maybe will be moving city to go into trainment to try the impossible job that I have always wanted but I'm sure I don't have the capacity to, even though knowing that I will most likely fail, I have to try, if I fail... that's my end, there is nothing in this life for me. I've been severely depressed and ravaged by mental illness by the last 14 years so it is not as simple as you think. The constant humiliations I've faced in public in front of many people, fucked up childhood, fucked up teenagehood, gangstalking, harassment... it's not that simple man. You are being way too harsh in your replies.
Lol sorry, I'm an abrasive person

I couldn't do what your brother does, he must really know what he's doing

What you want to do sounds like "dropshipping" except you are actually storing and managing the physical product

Look into having a "dropshipping model"

Basically customers place orders (pay you first), and then you order from the manufacturer/source and set it to be delivered to them using the money you were already paid (you obviously price it to include the profit you want and to account for shipping and handling payments)

I tried to do dropshipping before (Ebay, Amazon, etc) but all these markets are saturated, but it seems like you are doing something local, so you can have the best of both worlds, you can use a dropshipping model but with local customers so you have less competition
 
Lol sorry, I'm an abrasive person

I couldn't do what your brother does, he must really know what he's doing

What you want to do sounds like "dropshipping" except you are actually storing and managing the physical product

Look into having a "dropshipping model"

Basically customers place orders (pay you first), and then you order from the manufacturer/source and set it to be delivered to them using the money you were already paid (you obviously price it to include the profit you want and to account for shipping and handling payments)

I tried to do dropshipping before (Ebay, Amazon, etc) but all these markets are saturated, but it seems like you are doing something local, so you can have the best of both worlds, you can use a dropshipping model but with local customers so you have less competition
I will be selling mid-range products that are the most looked for in the whole global market and that's where the profit is. From phones, to computer peripherals, hardware and other stuff. Yes, my brother really knows his stuff and became a professional without any training, he's completely self taught and fixed stuff that even people outside the country with decades of experience couldn't fix, and even worked remotely fixing stuff through his computer for clients on the other side of the planet. Ironic to think that I gave him that idea. He has huge knowledge in electronics, math, chemistry, engineering, electronics, industrial/manual soldering/microsoldering and things like that. He sometimes handles equipment work 100k at his room brought from overseas from ridiculously rich customers and he makes insane money.

Yes, my idea is called exactly what you said. Apart from that, I am also looking for passive means of income, and if I find something that actually works with testimony from people that do it, I will be doing it through several means. I have looked hundreds of videos now and saw that mane people where profiting completely passively, so I will be looking towards the same thing apart from the reselling stuff. Hope I can go somewhere with my life because I just can't accept that it was over at the moment of my conception.
If I get some respectable money at least I would be able to travel a bit and relieve my mind with nature somewhere in Canada, Southern Chile/Argentina and Northern Europe. I just want to be in contact with very pure nature and the one I find most beautiful, the cold landscapes.

After realising how lost I am in this life just yesterday, I am preparing to take my steps. I will start exercising again and stuff. Hopefully I can get somewhere and stop being stuck in my room like I've been for 14 years. The problem is that really nothing looks interesting, even the job that I always wanted is highly tedious and boring, but it is a hell of a thrill and respectable position, and pretty good to flex. :feelskek:

I don't have any knowledge in coding/programming or anything like that, I have already tried but couldn't get anywhere with it. My brain is pretty slow, I can't pick up ideas or concepts, and exceedingly fast forget anything I read, making learning things borderline impossible. In school I would get completely lost at completely trivial and simple subjects. I don't have the least intellignce for a serious job, so I have to try my luck on my own and be as creative as possible with my plans and passive income if possible. If I was good at math I could at least try stocks and various investiments but I seriously can't understand math, so that's out or reach.

Anyway. Many of the posts recounting events from my life are so absurd that they sound like made up shit or shit taken from movies/series, but unfortunately they are the grim truth. My life has been severely fucked up for my mental health and I've been at the brink of starvation between 2008 and 2009, but luckily recovered. I am just looking for any better state of mind that I currently am right now. I've had so many mental breakdowns that I can't bare it anymore and I have to take drastic measures before I commit a terrible mistake with my life. Living with so many fucked up mental stuff is not easy, especially being on the spectrum to addition to being paranoid schizophrenic, extremely depressed and anxious. Life is not very kind to some of us. If you saw some of my posts in the past here on ID you would know how fucked up my life was.
 
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