Experiment Poll: should I get plastic surgery?

[Fontaine]

Quick rundown: I'm 26, ugly, and deformed. Virgin and almost friendless. I feel anxiety when I move around a university campus out of fear someone may make fun of my deformities. I have largely enough money to pay for surgery.

Surgery sounds like an obvious choice, but I feel very lukewarm about it. Here are the arguments against surgery:

- Risk of failure (ending up worse than before, or not better enough to justify spending half a hundred thousand)
- Risk of dying during surgery (due to hemorrhage or general anesthesia)
- Reaction of family (they'll think I'm vain)
- Risk of feeling even worse afterwards (now I feel serene about my inceldom because I know I have 0 chance... But if I start to believe I have some chances, I may end up a mentalcel, which is far worse because you feel responsible for it)
- Risk of guilt: if I get surgery and my life vastly improves, I would feel guilty about all my incel friends who can't afford surgery and are thus condemned to miserable lives until the grave while I experience great happiness

 

[SubhumanMonster]

What is your deformity?

 

[Fontaine]

What is your deformity?

It's hard to explain. My mandible, maxilla and zygomatic arrangement is simply completely screwed up. I have run simulations on a phone app, and merely moving my chin forward a little bit does a lot to improve my profile, so I'm very hopeful a plastic surgeon can improve my looks rating from 1/10 to 5/10.

I also have other defects to correct. I would ideally need a rhino, blepharo, and lip reduction.

 

[SubhumanMonster]

That sounds like surgery can indeed fix a lot, which is not always the case, and you should definitely go for it. The difference of life quality between a 1/10 and 5/10 is large. Maybe you can even looksmax further to 6. The risks you mentioned are either neglectible or non-issues. The benefits heavily outweight.

If there would be a surgery for my issues I'd do it in a heartbeat.

 

[history]

What is your height ?

 

[BoltzmanOscillate]

You should see if you can get free evaluations at whatever doctor.

 

[Robtical]

I'd do it if I had the money.

 

[ThereIsYourGod]

- Risk of guilt: if I get surgery and my life vastly improves, I would feel guilty about all my incel friends who can't afford surgery and are thus condemned to miserable lives until the grave while I experience great happiness

stupid excuse tbh

 

[Fontaine]

stupid excuse tbh

I am a guiltcel honestly. Everyone here knows I am a crypto millionaire, so if I start to get PS for myself, I'll have no excuse (except selfishness) for not funding the PS of everyone else here.

You should see if you can get free evaluations at whatever doctor.

Does this really exist? (((Doctors))) usually adore money.

 

[ThereIsYourGod]

I am a crypto millionaire

Lucky bastard. Bought bunch of bitcoins in 2012 or a good traider? Also why dont you pump and dump femoids pretending being a cuck if youre rich?

 

[Fontaine]

Lucky bastard. Bought bunch of bitcoins in 2012 or a good traider?

Very bad trader, I simply rode the train from 2015 to jan 2018 without selling. Hardest part was not listening to all the assholes with sour grapes telling you to "take your profits before the bubble bursts". Guys like these said the same thing every month for three years. I held by actually believing in crypto, and not being in it just for a quick buck.

 

[ThereIsYourGod]

Very bad trader

I simply rode the train from 2015 to jan 2018 without selling

So you escape it the very moment it started to collapse. Yeah, you are just terrible lol.

 

[itsmemario]

I have never seen you, so i can't tell if you need it, i knew a guy who had deformity that wasn't too bad but made him extremely insecured and think he is way uglyer than he is, i don't know if thats your case too or it's really that bad.
TBH if you got the money for it and it would make you feel better, you should do it.

 

[Timecel]

you gotta show pics first dude

 

[NormieKiller]

An incel who can afford to get PS has the duty to ascend at whatever cost or he gets labeled a volcel at this point..

Btw, yeah it would have been better if we could see how you look like OP.

 

[micropenis29]

That you need to ask this question tells me the answer is no.

If this was a good idea, you wouldn't even hesitate.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

An incel who can afford to get PS has the duty to ascend at whatever cost or he gets labeled a volcel at this point..

Btw, yeah it would have been better if we could see how you look like OP.

 

[Life Wasted]

You ain't getting any younger or prettier so I would do it. You got nothing to lose at this point except some cash.

 

[LDARBuddah]

Try a beard for lower third before surgery there
Rhino makes a huge difference, however people will notice that youve done it and ofc its a bit expensive for a good clinic If you are cool with that shoot.

That you need to ask this question tells me the answer is no.

If this was a good idea, you wouldn't even hesitate.

Shoutout to my boy Johnny Sanza

 

[PersonalityChad]

You should go for it

 

[Masterkief9]

The answer should always be yes, or you’re a fakecel

 

[Deleted member 13256]

Quick rundown

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Quick rundown: I'm 26, ugly, and deformed. Virgin and almost friendless. I feel anxiety when I move around a university campus out of fear someone may make fun of my deformities. I have largely enough money to pay for surgery.

Surgery sounds like an obvious choice, but I feel very lukewarm about it. Here are the arguments against surgery:

- Risk of failure (ending up worse than before, or not better enough to justify spending half a hundred thousand)
- Risk of dying during surgery (due to hemorrhage or general anesthesia)
- Reaction of family (they'll think I'm vain)
- Risk of feeling even worse afterwards (now I feel serene about my inceldom because I know I have 0 chance... But if I start to believe I have some chances, I may end up a mentalcel, which is far worse because you feel responsible for it)
- Risk of guilt: if I get surgery and my life vastly improves, I would feel guilty about all my incel friends who can't afford surgery and are thus condemned to miserable lives until the grave while I experience great happiness

Yes for sure, I'm a lot like you and I would want this for myself so for anyone else in the same situation to rise out of it would be a blessing. We'd all feel better if one of the best posters here ascended. May your results be better than you can imagine.

I am a guiltcel honestly. Everyone here knows I am a crypto millionaire, so if I start to get PS for myself, I'll have no excuse (except selfishness) for not funding the PS of everyone else here.

Does this really exist? (((Doctors))) usually adore money.

That's the kind of person we are praying for and the kind of person I want to be as well, I think most of us would.

 

[happiless]

Your wipe your ass with money so you have no excuse not to.

 

[Fontaine]

Thanks for all the encouraging messages, I read each one with a lot of attention.

I'm determined to go through PS in late June / early July. I'll use the current year to research the best surgeons and travel to them for advice.

Kick my ass on this topic if you find me procrastinating about it: https://incels.is/threads/ill-post-here-my-plastic-surgery-journey.79397/

 

[Deleted member 14490]

Yes man, go for it. I plan on surgerymaxxing as well, that's what keeps me motivated to graduate college.

 

[masterwizard]

Absolutely get surgery (from a decent surgeon with a portfolio). Don't listen to this place too much, at the end of the day its just a place for people to shitpost and vent and post memes.

You can be kind of a loquacious fag so you should put your money where your mouth is, get surgery. Even if you don't ascend, simply fixing your looks so you don't look deformed is worth doing. You owe it to yourself, and to your incel brethren.

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Thanks for all the encouraging messages, I read each one with a lot of attention.

I'm determined to go through PS in late June / early July. I'll use the current year to research the best surgeons and travel to them for advice.

Kick my ass on this topic if you find me procrastinating about it: https://incels.is/threads/ill-post-here-my-plastic-surgery-journey.79397/

The PS I had a consultation with had a wall full of plaques so I would look for one that has a lot of plaques on his wall... kek.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Height surgery comes first.

Take the 5’7” pill.

 

[Deleted member 14490]

Height surgery comes first.

Take the 5’7” pill.

Bro it's over if you're 5'4. I'm considered a manlet by many and am 5'9.

 

[Dude420]

Go for it @Fontaine the risk of regrets alone that you might have ascended and be more respected in general if you have done the surgery during your good years will be more damaging than the downsides.

 

[Felix97]

Go for it

 

[FaceandHFD]

What surgery do you need?
I had the impression you only needed jaw surgery + something for your dolicocephaly.

 

[crew2]

Quick rundown: I'm 26, ugly, and deformed. Virgin and almost friendless. I feel anxiety when I move around a university campus out of fear someone may make fun of my deformities. I have largely enough money to pay for surgery.

Surgery sounds like an obvious choice, but I feel very lukewarm about it. Here are the arguments against surgery:

- Risk of failure (ending up worse than before, or not better enough to justify spending half a hundred thousand)
- Risk of dying during surgery (due to hemorrhage or general anesthesia)
- Reaction of family (they'll think I'm vain)
- Risk of feeling even worse afterwards (now I feel serene about my inceldom because I know I have 0 chance... But if I start to believe I have some chances, I may end up a mentalcel, which is far worse because you feel responsible for it)
- Risk of guilt: if I get surgery and my life vastly improves, I would feel guilty about all my incel friends who can't afford surgery and are thus condemned to miserable lives until the grave while I experience great happiness

My aim in life is to solve this situation and the only way I can think of that will make me good enough for girls is surgery so it's a resounding yes from me.

As for your reasons against:-

- Risk of failure - If things are as bad as you say I can't see how it can get worse. I myself honestly look in the mirror and feel I am average or decent looking at least but I am invisible to the most repulsive looking women so I can't see how my situation could be made worse and if you truly are a 1/10 as you say then isn't it the same for you? Plus it's not like the results are actually going to deform you, they just may not be as good as expected but if you go to a reputable surgeon you will see success stories and will likely be a success story. I myself had a bad hair transplant with a cheap doctor and am saving up for another one at a better surgeon but the results never made me worse, they just aren't as great as I expected.

- Risk of dying during surgery - My sister is a doctor and this is extremely rare, like dying in a car crash on the way to work rare.

- Reaction of family- What do they expect you to do? Carry on with an existence which is miserable according to you and try to do nothing to change it? I'm back living with my parents now and they say I have to leave the house if I get surgery because they are against it yet they had no problem bringing an ugly child into this shit world so fuck their cowardice.

- Risk of feeling even worse afterwards - Always better to improve your situation than do nothing. It's bad to feel comfortable about a bad situation. This is the reason I laugh at the cowards who look down on inceldom. Inceldom is us being pissed off at a situation which we fucking well should be pissed off about. Never accept it.

- Risk of guilt - It's not like you can afford to get all of us surgery so concentrate on fixing your own problems. You deserve to be happy if you are in this much pain and if other incels hold that against you then they are cunts. I would be jealous haha but you're success would inspire me to reach my own

 

[Anger]

Just go for it, surgerymaxx is the only hope left for us deformedcels

 

[Deleted member 14577]

I never researched plastic surgery but that won't me stop from writing about it.

- Risk of failure - don't go for a cheap surgeon, this is something you'll have for the rest of your life or just set aside money for a corrective surgery or maybe some type of contract with the doctor if that's possible
- Risk of dying during surgery - again don't go for a cheap one, you risk dying when you cross the street (a lot less but still), if you want something you gotta risk something for it
- Reaction of family - if they care about you and it makes you happier and since it doesn't hurt anyone they should be glad, both them and you shouldn't really have a problem with it
- Risk of feeling even worse afterwards - agian risk is always present, be sure you want this and get a good surgeon
- Risk of guilt - incels that are your friends will be glad you're happy and other deformed cells will see you as a beacon of hope, you shouldn't worry about your friends being jealous

 

[StaroRavager]

- Risk of guilt: if I get surgery and my life vastly improves, I would feel guilty about all my incel friends who can't afford surgery and are thus condemned to miserable lives until the grave while I experience great happiness

Just go on without us tbh, it’s your life and the only way you’re going to make it is if you start living purely for yourself. Don’t let guilt hold you back from achieving the friendship and affection that you’ve desired for all these years

 

[Hoppipolla]

I think it depends just HOW bad looking the person looks. It's hard to say without seeing a picture. But for some people of course it can help them to do well in life.

Interesting about the risks. I guess it depends how likely they are and how good the plastic surgeon is.

 

[TheOnlyWei]

I am a guiltcel honestly. Everyone here knows I am a crypto millionaire, so if I start to get PS for myself, I'll have no excuse (except selfishness) for not funding the PS of everyone else here.

Does this really exist? (((Doctors))) usually adore money.

Doctors give free consultations and explain the procedure and possible outcomes. From there you could choose the best candidate.
If a doctor thinks correcting your jaw would improve your quality of life for chewing and talking, it could be considered reconstructive surgery and paid in part by your insurance. You wouldn't have to pay the vanity tax on the surgery either. Some places have that tax.

 

[Mainländer]

I don't know what to say tbh. I don't have the money for surgeries but even if I had I'd also be very hesitant.

 

[Getlooksordie]

you make it sound like you have a choice.

- Risk of dying during surgery (due to hemorrhage or general anesthesia)

that´s a positive. I´m having invasive surgery tomorrow and I hope I die on the operating table. Dying during anesthesia would be awesome. No more pain and suffering.

 

[Incellectual]

The answer should always be yes. Even if you are not bad looking surgery will make you look better.

 

[Deleted member 14490]

you make it sound like you have a choice.


that´s a positive. I´m having invasive surgery tomorrow and I hope I die on the operating table. Dying during anesthesia would be awesome. No more pain and suffering.

Why not just guarantee it then and rope right now? Larper

 

[Blackpill Dealer]

YES, if you can afford it get surgery, it's totally worth it. remember that every point you gain on looks will improve your life in almost every aspect.

Also start planning it ASAP, it will take some time to be done. and you want to have a chance of being decent looking and somewhat NT before your 30s.

 

[Getlooksordie]

Why not just guarantee it then and rope right now? Larper

I don´t want to make my parents suffer, by them having the stigma of having a son who died because of suicide.

 

[MaxZM98]

send us pics first. cant decide whether or not it's worth it as it is

 

[Kent]

No..........
One defect - yes.
Multiple defects - no because you are subhuman.

Cliffs: facial harmony

Consult with @FACEandLMS who will concur.