[POLL] How incel are you? What should be considered an incel on this forum?

[blickpall]

Hello everyone. Given the recent discussions about "who is a virgin" and what it means to be incel (with many competing viewpoints, modifications, cut-off points, nuances, etc.), I decided to get an open discussion going that we can quantify to some degree. So many people are trying to estrange those who are "higher" on the below scale than others, or don't subscribe to their own incel philosophy. So, I decided that it would be pertinent to us if we could also see what the distribution of our current population is.

Of course, this scale won't be perfect for many of you I am sure, but I think I covered the empirical levels between supercel and Chad adequately. For the purposes of this poll, let's assume that escortcels do count. What I mean by this is, they have by definition had sex, potentially multiple times. I couldn't come up with a decent poll/scale that would allow them some sort of exception and didn't know where to place them on this spectrum, because someone can be genuinely KHHHV but escorts made him jump up to normie level without ever getting validation like a KHHHV doesn't. Anyway:

--- VOTE what YOU ARE. Results should be anonymous. Unfortunately I couldn't get an option for each level, so I grouped some of the levels together.

--- Comment what YOU THINK SHOULD BE THE UPPER LIMIT OF INCEL ON THIS FORUM. Add whether you think escortcels should be an exception. Also. it would be nice if you could explain your reasoning.

Here is the scale:

EDIT: Seems the forum shrinks the image; here is the hyperlink to imgur:

https://i.imgur.com/KeysQZn.png

 

[lonelyreee]

Its khhv, not khhhv.

 

[blickpall]

Its khhv, not khhhv.

I don't think this is a particularly important distinction. I always get confused how many H's there are because I've seen people use both.

 

[a-virgin-nigger]

Lvl 1 KHHHV.

 

[lonelyreee]

I don't think this is a particularly important distinction. I always get confused how many H's there are because I've seen people use both.

Probably not.


Ended up miss voting... The vote on LVL 1-2 is supposed to be LVL -1 - 0

 

[nausea]

nononono

it tells nothing

you must include standardcels, I am not going to have any intimate contact with someone who repulses me

 

[a-virgin-nigger]

nononono

it tells nothing

you must include standardcels, I am not going to have any intimate contact with someone who repulses me

Standardcels? LMAO don't you mean VOLCELS.

 

[universallyabhorred]

jnkkl.

 

[nausea]

Standardcels? LMAO don't you mean VOLCELS.

no man

we should clarify this fact on this board sooner or later

 

[blickpall]

Should I just make a different thread to discuss what should the upper bound of this forum be (according to the population voting)? It might help to separate the two subjects? (What you are vs. What should be allowed)

As far as standardcel/volcel, they should vote accordingly imo, just like escortcel. If you've received attention and whatever contact from women you are not attracted to, that still counts to many incels here and I am trying to distill contact and inceldom to the simplest terms.

 

[eurocel]

-1 lol, never had a female show me affection.

 

[nausea]

Should I just make a different thread to discuss what should the upper bound of this forum be (according to the population voting)? It might help to separate the two subjects? (What you are vs. What should be allowed)

As far as standardcel/volcel, they should vote accordingly imo, just like escortcel. If you've received attention and whatever contact from women you are not attracted to, that still counts to many incels here and I am trying to distill contact and inceldom to the simplest terms.

so "any female" has to be taken literally?

 

[blickpall]

so "any female" has to be taken literally?

Yes, except family (the bottom category says "including family").

 

[ICanOnlyFapToBDSM]

LEVEL 0

ALSO YOU DONT NEED TO LINK THE IMAGE JUST RIGHT CLICK IT OPEN IMAGE IN NEW TAB

 

[ordinaryotaku]

My incel rating is -1. Anyone above that needs to GET OUT.

(unless they are an escortcel).

 

[nausea]

voted 5, but still not truthful with my situation

also lol at the chads here

 

[CompleteFailure]

lvl -1

 

[shooterboss]

Might as well ignore those Chad responses. Obvious trolls.

Anyway, what is considered "handholding"? When I was in elementary school, the gym instructors made us do a dumb square dancing routine, which involved temporarily holding hands with a person of the opposite sex. It was forced, but does that count?

 

[CopingGymcel]

When people say "hugless", "handholdless", etc, do they mean it in a romantic fashion?

 

[fagotonabike]

I am king of the incels

 

[CamelBlueFilters]

Level 0, never received female affection

 

[blickpall]

Interesting results so far.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

Im level 6.

 

[Framecel222]

Standardcels? LMAO don't you mean VOLCELS.

Standardscel =/= volcel.

 

[nausea]

Standardscel =/= volcel.

yeah

some people doesnt understand the concept

 

[weservenomsg]

lvl 9 srs

 

[JovanD]

Id say lvl 9 should be limit.
Im not sure where i fit since escortcels and trap enthusiasts are not represented on the scale.

 

[Framecel222]

Id say lvl 9 should be limit.
Im not sure where i fit since escortcels and trap enthusiasts are not represented on the scale.

If the trap is passable then it counts. Escorts don't count.

 

[nausea]

wtf is trap?

 

[JovanD]

wtf is trap?

Male to female transgender person.

 

[blickpall]

If the trap is passable then it counts. Escorts don't count.

Actually, for the purposes of this poll, I want escortcels to put themselves where it is appropriate physically. The point of this is to dilute the absolute amount of physical contact the incel had, not the validation or means by which he received it. This is not to say that escortcels are not true incels or anything of that nature, just measuring one spectrum of the situation.

 

[JovanD]

The point of this is to dilute the absolute amount of physical contact the incel had.

Guess i voted wrong, should have picked 9 instead of 6.

 

[Oodar]

Actually, for the purposes of this poll, I want escortcels to put themselves where it is appropriate physically. The point of this is to dilute the absolute amount of physical contact the incel had, not the validation or means by which he received it. This is not to say that escortcels are not true incels or anything of that nature, just measuring one spectrum of the situation.

And smashing escorts takes similar work to having sex with a civie, at least in the anxiety/mental department. In some ways, it's worse.
I lost my v-card to a civie, very fucked up situation I can't discuss, and 2 escorts. I haven't touched a woman in nearly a decade and probably never will again. At my age it's harder to deal with this. The physical toll is less due to less T, but the mental toll is worse due to less T. Aging as an incel is a double edged sword.

 

[Angry_runt]

Except 90% of the adult population is LVL9+ according to this scale.

 

[jagged0]

Hello everyone. Given the recent discussions about "who is a virgin" and what it means to be incel (with many competing viewpoints, modifications, cut-off points, nuances, etc.), I decided to get an open discussion going that we can quantify to some degree. So many people are trying to estrange those who are "higher" on the below scale than others, or don't subscribe to their own incel philosophy. So, I decided that it would be pertinent to us if we could also see what the distribution of our current population is.

Of course, this scale won't be perfect for many of you I am sure, but I think I covered the empirical levels between supercel and Chad adequately. For the purposes of this poll, let's assume that escortcels do count. What I mean by this is, they have by definition had sex, potentially multiple times. I couldn't come up with a decent poll/scale that would allow them some sort of exception and didn't know where to place them on this spectrum, because someone can be genuinely KHHHV but escorts made him jump up to normie level without ever getting validation like a KHHHV doesn't. Anyway:

--- VOTE what YOU ARE. Results should be anonymous. Unfortunately I couldn't get an option for each level, so I grouped some of the levels together.

--- Comment what YOU THINK SHOULD BE THE UPPER LIMIT OF INCEL ON THIS FORUM. Add whether you think escortcels should be an exception. Also. it would be nice if you could explain your reasoning.

Here is the scale:

EDIT: Seems the forum shrinks the image; here is the hyperlink to imgur:

https://i.imgur.com/KeysQZn.png

Lowest of the low..destined to always be alone.

 

[Minjaze]

Level -1.

 

[incel20]

lol. 40% of the people here have done something sexual with a girl or have actually had sex

fakecels

 

[IsolationHurts]

Level 0, never received female affection

At least i have a mother that talked to me when i was young... I guess thats all the female atention i got in my life tho -.-

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lol. 40% of the people here have done something sexual with a girl or have actually had sex

fakecels

Yep. I dont understand. If i could have sex i would not be in this forum lol

 

[LonelyButterfly]

LVL -1

It's over

 

[/u/ItsOverMyFriends]

wtf? 16% 10-12? Fakecels everywhere

 

[Deleted member 265]

Lvl -1 squad

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

I accidentally voted for level 12, but I'm actually at level -1.

 

[workcel 4ever]

In my opinion:

LVL -∞ - LVL 2 : True Incel
LVL 3 - LVL 8: Failed normie / "incel lite"
LVL 9 and up: Normie and Chad

I included levels 1 and 2 for incels because handholding and hugging often happens in completely non-romantic scenarios, and are also common in the friendzone.
As for LVL 3-9: in the past I saw people getting offended for questioning their incelhood, saying that "man, I fingered a woman 10 years ago once, and had nothing since that, I belong in your club too". To this, I say that I believe that as a failed normie you can have a very shitty life, you can even have it worse than the average incel, but you still had a potential that most of us never did. At some point in your life, you were acceptable enough for a woman, and even if it was just a 5 minute petting, that was still more validation that a lot of incels receive in their whole life. I know that losing that potential is possible and acts as an extra suicide fuel, so I dont say that failed normies shouldnt be allowed here. If they want to call themselves incels, I wont argue with them, but there is still a distinction between them and the true, born-to-be incels.
Including LVL 3 in the failed normie category might seem strict, but a lot of women view kissing as a special thing, and remember their first kiss just like losing their virginity, so getting there is beyond true inceldom.

As for escorts: I think escortcel is a "subspecies" of incel, so interactions with them shouldnt be judged by this scale. Yes, you have to contact one, go outside the house, etc to fuck her, but its still way, way easier than getting a "civie", so I think that a person can fuck 100 escorts but still be an incel.

 

[whogivesafucc]

Fucking lol. I voted lvl 9 without referring to the scale, I thought it was a gradual poll that goes up the more subhuman you are.

I'm level -1, literally never had any female attention whatsoever. I'm a roach, I'm completely invisible but once they get me in their sights, it's over.

 

[cyborgglory]

Voted on the wrong scale. My bad.
But anyways, the only stipulation for this forum should be virginity. that's what separates us from the fucking normies. whether you've held hands or not, if you still have that man-hymen, women won't even fucking look at you.

escortcels are an exception, that's basically masturbation imo. neither of them really want it.

 

[Polydude]

Ha ok I should have looked at the scale. I voted 9 but I'm an 11 apparently.

I'm over 300 lbs who knew

To be fair my actual desire for sex is completely unrealistic even by the chaddiest of chad standards I have dreams about an STDless world where one day a year we have like the purge except it's a free for all orgy where everyone gives consent to everyone else to do anything not abusive or dangerous to them.

 

[justforlulzandkeks]

Lvl -1 crew checking in

 

[Deleted member 140]

Level 1 for me

 

[Deleted member 236]

Id say lvl 9 should be limit.
Im not sure where i fit since escortcels and trap enthusiasts are not represented on the scale.

If you're into traps you're gay and therefore fakecel.

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Getting hugs for me was always easy. Girls who had just met me would offer me hugs so it’s really not a sign of not being incel and means nothing.

I’m a kissless virgin as I aforementioned at the age of 18 so I guess I am a truecel. Even the virgins who have kissed may still be incel as I’d imagine it’s easy to osculate with a girl who was drunk at a party/club

" Girls who had just met me would offer me hugs"


WTF world is this. But then I've never met a girl in a non-formal environment.


The only non-familial affection I've received is online. Received attention because I was attractive at one point. So I'm at zero.

 

[JovanD]

If you're into traps you're gay and therefore fakecel.