Discussion [Poll] Could you ascend if you really REALLY tried?

[Seven7]

Let's say you do EVERYTHING you can possibly do to ascend. For years.

- You looksmax as much as you possibly can (maybe not counting surgeries, depends on if you're willing to go through that): shoe lifts, hair (take finasteride and minoxidil, especially if you're already balding), skincare, get muscular and lean, clothes, etc.
- You improve your social skills. Go outside very often and in different environments, build a social circle and get comfortable interacting with both men and women.
- You approach a lot of women. Hot and cold approaches. Not dating apps ofc, that doesn't make sense unless you're +HTN (at the very least), which you're most likely not gonna achieve if you're on this forum (unless you're mentalcel).
- Maybe even geomaxx if you're willing to do that. It could increase your chances by A LOT, although I understand if you answer the poll without taking that option into account bc it's too extreme.

I could keep on but you get my point.

I haven't included moneymaxxing bc you could say, with good reason, that if you get a gf because of that it's not true love (it's more complicated than that tho, but that's another topic), and hookers would probably be a better option.

The poll is anonymous. Be as honest as possible. Don't lie to yourself. Take a moment to reflect if necessary. Maybe you usually default to thinking that it's 100% over for you, but after some thought, you come to the conclusion that you might have a chance. The poll allows you to change your vote.

 

[Moth Knight]

Lads, I think MI6 is tryna replace me

 

[paracletus]

i don't even have the motivation to do all of that

 

[Deco]

That's what I've been trying to do. For years.

I'm getting to the point where I think I can do it. Otherwise I'm fucked as I have nothing else going for me. No looks, no smarts, no money, living in a third world shithole, nothing.

It has been a long journey and I fucking hate I have to resort to this place (which I've only found recently) just to speak my mind with no consequences after many years trying not to step on minefields.

 

[Wrath]

 

[FastBlast]

i don't even have the motivation to do all of that

This. Just let me goon in my room

 

[zd60]

No

 

[theanty]

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[LeFrenchCel]

Pretty sure most of us could ascend by simping and betabuxxing third-world 0/10 mutants, or being part of a polyamorous cuckoldry with a troon, among other examples

The thing is that normal humans like us are rational, and any funcional brain would come to the conclusion that any of the situations previously mentioned would not be worth it

 

[Moth Knight]

Pretty sure most of us could ascend by simping and betabuxxing third-world 0/10 mutants, or being part of a polyamorous cuckoldry with a troon, among other examples

The thing is that normal humans like us are rational, and any funcional brain would come to the conclusion that any of the situations previously mentioned would not be worth it

I was going to say that but I was afraid it would be banworthy.

 

[Duskcel]

Pretty sure most of us could ascend by simping and betabuxxing third-world 0/10 mutants, or being part of a polyamorous cuckoldry with a troon, among other examples

The thing is that normal humans like us are rational, and any funcional brain would come to the conclusion that any of the situations previously mentioned would not be worth it

 

[Duskcel]

I was going to say that but I was afraid it would be banworthy.

I'm still a greycel on here. Are bans handed out that easy? I've read the rules and it's not that simple to get banned if you're a truecel.

 

[Moth Knight]

I'm still a greycel on here. Are bans handed out that easy? I've read the rules and it's not that simple to get banned if you're a truecel.

I was probably being paranoid in all honesty. Mods are stricter with GrAYcels, though.

 

[Duskcel]

GrAYcels

A bit rude, innit mate?

 

[luisatsuarez000]

I'm 20 and have actively been trying since the beginning of high school. tried all sorts of looksmaxxing. still KHHV. I only have hope because one time an ugly black foid said she liked me in 6th grade.

 

[VλREN]

Another thread form another fucking GrAY

 

[VλREN]

How about you kill yourself GrAY cockroach

 

[VλREN]

God there fucking everywhere

 

[V c z s q e]

How about you kill yourself GrAY cockroach

Nigger a 2023cel was just posting turtle porn. It's over for you pre 2025cels.

 

[VλREN]

Nigger a 2023cel was just posting turtle porn.

You probably enjoyed watching it 2025 fag

 

[Seven7]

Pretty sure most of us could ascend by simping and betabuxxing third-world 0/10 mutants, or being part of a polyamorous cuckoldry with a troon, among other examples

The thing is that normal humans like us are rational, and any funcional brain would come to the conclusion that any of the situations previously mentioned would not be worth it

Agreed. I wouldn't even count that as ascending.

 

[Seven7]

I'm 20 and have actively been trying since the beginning of high school. tried all sorts of looksmaxxing. still KHHV. I only have hope because one time an ugly black foid said she liked me in 6th grade.

The fact that that's the only life experience that keeps you hopeful is brutal.

 

[superpsycho]

i have zero chance of ascending whatsoever no matter what i do.

 

[lowz1r]

can't ascend it's over

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Yes, I know I could if I really wanted to and sacrificed a ton for a FAT single mom that's settling for me and I'm settling for her.

No thanks. I'm too old, tired, and completely untrusting of holes.

 

[outerdarkness]

Possibly, but I doubt it.

I've been on the most powerful medication for acne, Accutane, and I still have very severe acne. Not NT, so socialization is, at the minimum, going to be exponentially harder then it is for normies. God knows I've been humiliated enough trying to get a social life.

 

[curryboy420]

Lads, I think MI6 is tryna replace me

What do you mean

 

[Mr Black]

Nah not in my country atleast

 

[Animecel2D]

No. It never began for me due to my genes​

 

[Ambatukam Alone]

I think many here could have some casual sex once if they managed to get into a position where they warm approach hundreds or thousands of cumtards, looksmaxx, statusmaxx, personalitymaxx, maybe thousands of cold approaches, etc, etc. (Many here could also theoretically achieve a 3 plate bench press or deadlift 3x their body weight). Motivation is about perceived cost vs perceived benefit. If I have to 180 my entire personality, and looksmaxx, and somehow get money—to get the grand privilege of kissing a mouth which has been home to many a cock... I'm not saying I'm demanding virginity, but other men's cum in your mouth is a heavy negative that has to be balanced out somehow.

Not sure how such an "ascension" would change much, and I dislike the term "ascension" if synonymous with just having unpaid sex with some used whore. I think it should only count if you have an actual romantic relationship you enjoy and benefit from, otherwise the line between paid/unpaid (drunk sluts look at my social status/whatever) seems arbitrary, it's a one-time transaction of slightly different kind than monetary.

Also, there's the matter of time. Let's say I lose my virginity after 30 or some shit. Let's be honest, I'm already no longer young enough to care about putting my dick in a used hole, and that sentiment should only increase with age. I need a relationship that will more or less revive me, or I don't think it's worth one microjoule of effort. And such a relationship has to be built on honesty and real romance (this concept has been disputed on here but I believe it can exist, for now), not by larping as a normie and not by trying to attract her with money or status or whatever.

 

[Lego Island 2]

The juice isn't worth the squeeze

 

[lifeisfucked215]

I've already tried enough shit to only never be noticed by women. Also I don't want to be race traitor and marry some gook whore

 

[psyop]

What do you mean

Justin Bieber ahhh

 

[Rapistcel]

Let's say you do EVERYTHING you can possibly do to ascend. For years.

- You looksmax as much as you possibly can (maybe not counting surgeries, depends on if you're willing to go through that): shoe lifts, hair (take finasteride and minoxidil, especially if you're already balding), skincare, get muscular and lean, clothes, etc.
- You improve your social skills. Go outside very often and in different environments, build a social circle and get comfortable interacting with both men and women.
- You approach a lot of women. Hot and cold approaches. Not dating apps ofc, that doesn't make sense unless you're +HTN (at the very least), which you're most likely not gonna achieve if you're on this forum (unless you're mentalcel).
- Maybe even geomaxx if you're willing to do that. It could increase your chances by A LOT, although I understand if you answer the poll without taking that option into account bc it's too extreme.

I could keep on but you get my point.

I haven't included moneymaxxing bc you could say, with good reason, that if you get a gf because of that it's not true love (it's more complicated than that tho, but that's another topic), and hookers would probably be a better option.

The poll is anonymous. Be as honest as possible. Don't lie to yourself. Take a moment to reflect if necessary. Maybe you usually default to thinking that it's 100% over for you, but after some thought, you come to the conclusion that you might have a chance. The poll allows you to change your vote.

No

 

[currycel102]

I can guarantee sex with a hooker
I COULD betabux 10 years from now, as a 4/10 standardcel with some roastie, if that is "ascending"
However i CANNOT get sex currently with women my age of 23

 

[4sez]

unless i betabuxx

 

[suicidecase]

Everyone could if they really tried. But ascending isn't the same as having a girl being genuinely attracted to you.

 

[anglocelticcel]

I really have tried. Leaxmaxxing, failing jestermaxxing I’ve got a job, stopped gaming and watching sport for a bit, less masterbation, tried to take better care of my hygiene.

I really tried and failed (IT won’t touch this)

 

[Saber]

Never tried but everyone copes that whitemaxxing in SEA is real so realistically with some looksmaxxing and moving to like philipines I could possibly get laid (doubt about gf) but thats not worth living in a shithole and talking with 70 iq foids that cant read or write

 

[Itsoverm8]

If your here you would know there is no ascension unless your a fakecel

 

[Autist]

If my parents had helped me when I was 3-4-5 years old, I could have saved myself from inceldom.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

i don't even have the motivation to do all of that

 

[Violet loner]

Finasteride and minoxidil won't make your hair grow on bald areas. And you can't be a robot who do thousands of cold approaches without getting heart broke

 

[SociallyStupid]

I try my best but it's never enough. So probably not, but I still keep trying

 

[BasedStalin]

No. No matter how many American Eagle jeans i buy, i don't have great genes. Never begun