JFL Picture of an Iranian woman prior to the Islamic Revolution goes viral for the 9000th time

[Atavistic Autist]

View: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1844732434019201390


What's most ironic about this Western obsession with feminism is that if you looked at certain key statistics about life in Iran, then you could not distinguish it from a feminist country!

Namely, the majority of Iranian university students are female and Iran has a "below replacement" fertility rate on par with any developed country. This indicates that Iranian women are encouraged to be careerists for the same reasons as any urbanized, industrial economy, and hardly forced to have families and stay indoors like presumably is still the case across the border in ultra-rural Afghanistan.

In fact, the situation seems to be more stark than just that:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/vhj4x9/iran_has_the_highest_female_to_male_ratio_in/


Iranian women are most likely of anywhere to pursue STEM careers

This reminds me of the paradoxical fact that gender norms in terms of occupational roles are more entrenched in egalitarian countries than traditional ones! That is, women in overtly feminist countries are more likely to work in occupations such as nursing and teaching than in physical labor or STEM. And conversely, women in overtly traditional countries are actually more likely to work in physical labor or STEM!

This is attributed to the fact that women in egalitarian (and invariably affluent) countries are free to pursue their intrinsically feminine proclivities (i.e., working in care-taker positions, like the aforementioned nursing and teaching). Whereas in traditional countries (which are invariably poorer), women are forced to work hard careers which will net them the most money. Life is less comfortable, and so women take on masculine roles by necessity. You could say that "hard times make tough women"

It is a stunning example of the contradictions between overt and covert forms. Iran is overtly traditional in terms of gender, but covertly a feminist success story. Western programs to "get women into STEM" have miserably failed where Iran succeeds!

Except the West certainly does succeed at overt feminism (muh short skirts)

It is funny to read the women responding to the Twitter thread, talking about their "liberty." The same liberty to make their own decisions that would motivate women to signal their fertility and femininity by wearing a short skirt also causes them to eschew some of the high status masculine gender roles which modern feminism would want them to adopt in the workplace.

Another topic this touches on is the fact that some level of oppression is actually good for you. The Jews would not be the financial success story they are today if not for being oppressed throughout history. Oppression can represent the resistance that causes muscles to grow during weight lifting. If the weight/oppression is not so unbearable as to cause severe injury, then you will heal and grow stronger in the end.

If Iranian women were "liberated," half of them would just migrate to the West to get fucked by Chad while studying liberal arts in university, while the other half would work unproductive fake jobs at home that merely simulate childcare of the children they never had.

 

[B33troot]

"Freedom is when women wear short skirts"

 

[SmhChan]

Tbh, most doctors and lawyers in the west are foids, traditionally male roles.
In a truly traditional society, foids wouldn't have agency in the outside world. Iran isn't really traditional.

If Iranian women were "liberated," half of them would just migrate to the West to get fucked by Chad while studying liberal arts in university, while the other half would work unproductive fake jobs at home that merely simulate childcare of the children they never had.

It doesn't make a difference to average men.
Foids take on masculine roles = Low fertility and ostracized men.
Foids take on feminine roles = low fertility and ostracized men.
It's not just Iran. The state is more or less same in most developing countries, which could be considered "traditional" but westernized enough to let foids have agencies.

The thing is foids becoming "stronger" during tough times would only make things more severe for men. Foids are indifferent to men. No foid higher in status would lend a helping hand to a man lower in status just like in an economically well-off society.

 

[Regressive]

We r just catching up with the general degeneracy

 

[veryrare]

Bro came back from the dead just to drop a banger thread about my country

Nice thread saar

 

[Atavistic Autist]

"Freedom is when women wear short skirts"

It does represent female agency, to be sure, but when women are free to make their own decisions, it turns out that they make decisions which confirm biological gender differences!

The slutty dressing in particular is just emblematic of the polygamous nature of young women. But this isn't exactly contradictory to Islam, like at all. I'm sure Muslims have no problem with women dressing like sluts within the context of the harem

It's just that Western women, of course, want a form of polygamy which they can control. The whole world is their harem, and they are free to choose their partner for the night

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Tbh, most doctors and lawyers in the west are foids, traditionally male roles.
In a truly traditional society, foids wouldn't have agency in the outside world. Iran isn't really traditional.

in 2023, 39% of all lawyers were women

Women accounted for 38% of active physicians in 2022 (a total of 371,851)

So you're wrong on the first point.

And with respect to a "traditional society," what truly constitutes "tradition" is being pre-industrial and agrarian. It is a question of economics. Afghanistan is traditional by virtue of being a rural society, which is why the Taliban can enforce very traditional gender roles. Actually, these "gender roles" are just natural to a rural culture and so don't really require much enforcement by the government at all!

But in Iran, even with an ultraconservative government, you cannot undo the economic incentives incumbent to a more developed economy and society. In fact, the incentives for Iranian women to perform male gender roles in the workplace are only increased by the nature of the government and the economic sanctions imposed against it!

If Iran was more "liberal" and thus affluent, Iranian women would not be studying STEM so much, guaranteed.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Bro came back from the dead just to drop a banger thread about my country

Nice thread saar

 

[SmhChan]

So you're wrong on the first point.

I meant amongst the up-and-coming generations. Of course, you will have doctors and lawyers from past 3 generations who haven't retired yet.

And with respect to a "traditional society," what truly constitutes "tradition" is being pre-industrial, rural, and agrarian. It is a question of economics. Afghanistan is traditional by virtue of being pre-industrial and agrarian, which is why the Taliban can enforce very traditional gender roles.

But in Iran, even with an ultraconservative government, you cannot undo the economic incentives incumbent to a more developed economy and society. In fact, the incentives for Iranian women to perform male gender roles in the workplace are only increased by the nature of the government and the economic sanctions imposed against it!

If Iran was more "liberal" and thus affluent, Iranian women would not be studying STEM so much, guaranteed.

See my edited OG comment.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

I meant amongst the up-and-coming generations. Of course, you will have doctors and lawyers from past 3 generations who haven't retired yet.

Interesting. It still seems that Iranian women are more likely to be in STEM nonetheless, which proves my point.

In the US the split is now ~50/50, with a slight female majority, whereas in Iran it's ~75/25 in favor of women.

 

[faded]

View: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1844732434019201390


What's most ironic about this Western obsession with feminism is that if you looked at certain key statistics about life in Iran, then you could not distinguish it from a feminist country!

Namely, the majority of Iranian university students are female and Iran has a "below replacement" fertility rate on par with any developed country. This indicates that Iranian women are encouraged to be careerists for the same reasons as any urbanized, industrial economy, and hardly forced to have families and stay indoors like presumably is still the case across the border in ultra-rural Afghanistan.

In fact, the situation seems to be more stark than just that:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/vhj4x9/iran_has_the_highest_female_to_male_ratio_in/


Iranian women are most likely of anywhere to pursue STEM careers

This reminds me of the paradoxical fact that gender norms in terms of occupational roles are more entrenched in egalitarian countries than traditional ones! That is, women in overtly feminist countries are more likely to work in occupations such as nursing and teaching than in physical labor or STEM. And conversely, women in overtly traditional countries are actually more likely to work in physical labor or STEM!

This is attributed to the fact that women in egalitarian (and invariably affluent) countries are free to pursue their intrinsically feminine proclivities (i.e., working in care-taker positions, like the aforementioned nursing and teaching). Whereas in traditional countries (which are invariably poorer), women are forced to work hard careers which will net them the most money. Life is less comfortable, and so women take on masculine roles by necessity. You could say that "hard times make tough women"

It is a stunning example of the contradictions between overt and covert forms. Iran is overtly traditional in terms of gender, but covertly a feminist success story. Western programs to "get women into STEM" have miserably failed where Iran succeeds!

Except the West certainly does succeed at overt feminism (muh short skirts)

It is funny to read the women responding to the Twitter thread, talking about their "liberty." The same liberty to make their own decisions that would motivate women to signal their fertility and femininity by wearing a short skirt also causes them to eschew some of the high status masculine gender roles which modern feminism would want them to adopt in the workplace.

Another topic this touches on is the fact that some level of oppression is actually good for you. The Jews would not be the financial success story they are today if not for being oppressed throughout history. Oppression can represent the resistance that causes muscles to grow during weight lifting. If the weight/oppression is not so unbearable as to cause severe injury, then you will heal and grow stronger in the end.

If Iranian women were "liberated," half of them would just migrate to the West to get fucked by Chad while studying liberal arts in university, while the other half would work unproductive fake jobs at home that merely simulate childcare of the children they never had.

Iran should be nuke off the earth!

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Iran should be nuke off the earth!

Iran might soon develop nukes, on the contrary

You shouldn't have antagonized them so much, tbhngl

I have read a statement from an Iranian representative saying that they are willing to violate their own religious laws to produce nuclear weapons if this means that their sovereignty and dignity will be protected.

 

[faded]

Iran might soon develop nukes, on the contrary

You shouldn't have antagonized them so much, tbhngl

I have read a statement from an Iranian representative saying that they are willing to violate their own religious laws to produce nuclear weapons if this means that their sovereignty and dignity will be protected.

You fucking retard Israel is under attack every westerner needs to be all in for Israel Israel will nuke the planet and end the world if it threatens the survival of Jewish state Israel will do whatever it has to defending itself

 

[SmhChan]

Interesting. It still seems that Iranian women are more likely to be in STEM nonetheless, which proves my point.

In the US the split is now ~50/50, whereas in Iran it's ~75/25 in favor of women.

Not only college participation of men in the west quite a bit lower then foids, but it's also severely lower in Med and law schools. If you study numbers of these schools, things will be as skewed as in Iran's case. Also, foids in west are starting to outnumber men in a lot of other sectors like banks and administrations.

Foids being deterred from pursuing STEM could be due a lot of ethnicities congregating in the west to pursue it, thus increasing the competition by a lot. After all foids made up for 50 percent of the work force working as devs in the 50s.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Foids being deterred from pursuing STEM could be due a lot of ethnicities congregating in the west to pursue it, thus increasing the competition by a lot. After all foids made up for 50 percent of the work force working as devs in the 50s.

Good point! Mass-immigration seems to cause setbacks to feminism when it comes to recruiting newer and cheaper labor in STEM fields. For it is immigrant men who typically pursue these careers, whereas immigrant women are more likely to be bound up in ghettos where they fulfill traditional family roles.

I remember that Nazi Germany enslaved Slavic laborers during WWII precisely because they didn't want German women in the workforce. They preferred an immigrant slave caste working within Germany while the men were preoccupied on the front over working women, because they viewed the latter as a much more long-term threat to racial wellbeing. Whereas the short-term threat of the immigrant slave-laborers could be easily dealt with in due time (i.e., deportations).

Our soyciety tries double dipping, though

The "men on the front" in our soyciety are all the men who frankly were never born due to low birth rates, a casualty of feminism. Thus necessitating the importation of new human resources to sustain the industrial-capitalist machine.

 

[Balding Subhuman]

I mean the elite needs to desperately make the public opinion against Iran ASAP

The Jew overlords want Greater Israhell

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

Iran is still cucked. Go to Tehran and all foids wear slutty outfits, Islamic revolution my ass.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Iran is still cucked. Go to Tehran and all foids wear slutty outfits, Islamic revolution my ass.

They wear slutty outfits with ceremonial headscarves?

I remember watching one JewTube video of a Westerner visiting Tehran, and the female airport agents were outright flirting with him.

 

[Sonicfancel]

high iq thread.

 

[Lv99_BixNood]

They wear slutty outfits with ceremonial headscarves?

I remember watching one JewTube video of a Westerner visiting Tehran, and the female airport agents were outright flirting with him.

I was in Tehran some time ago, almost none of the foids wore headscarves. They only put them on when around government officials.

 

[8CbZA-kHFu6pFgE*]

most doctors and lawyers in the west are foids

Source ?

 

[Regenerator]

"Based" Iran was always a myth.

 

[faded]

I want to rape hot Arab pussy

 

[SmhChan]

Source ?

I meant amongst the up-and-coming generations. Of course, you will have doctors and lawyers from past 3 generations who haven't retired yet.

Pull up any med or law school gender ratio stat. Only reason it's not even higher in favor of foids is because of Indian and Asian men.

 

[Jud Pottah]

There is always another SIDE to the story eh

 

[SmhChan]

So you're wrong on the first point.

And with respect to a "traditional society," what truly constitutes "tradition" is being pre-industrial and agrarian. It is a question of economics. Afghanistan is traditional by virtue of being a rural society, which is why the Taliban can enforce very traditional gender roles. Actually, these "gender roles" are just natural to a rural culture and so don't really require much enforcement by the government at all!

But in Iran, even with an ultraconservative government, you cannot undo the economic incentives incumbent to a more developed economy and society. In fact, the incentives for Iranian women to perform male gender roles in the workplace are only increased by the nature of the government and the economic sanctions imposed against it!

If Iran was more "liberal" and thus affluent, Iranian women would not be studying STEM so much, guaranteed.

Well, it seems there's more to it. JFL!

Women's education in Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The dual nature of female participation in education is not yet reflected in their role in the economy, where 20–25 percent of educated women are able to find work.

Although, the case of Iranian men does seem to be very peculiar as in a shithole like India or in Asian countries, boys let go of their mental and physical well-being to vie for top universities in STEM. The whole thing is absurdly peculiar, ngl.

 

[AsiaCel]

Not surprised.

Persian is a gender-free language. In contrast to most other Indo-European languages Persian is grammatically gender-neutral. It does not distinguish between masculine, feminine or neuter genders.

 

[eliya]

Bro came back from the dead just to drop a banger thread about my country

Nice thread saar

 

[PureImagination]

"Freedom is when women wear short skirts"

 

[IncelGolem]

I want to rape hot Arab pussy

Dont defile people with your jew rat genes. You need to be cooked in an oven. (I say this respectfully as your friend).

 

[RandomGuy]

The Jew overlords want Greater Israhell

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/10ip9xxeTOE?si=5Kmr7sHtUACtk4OL

 

[Shaktiman]

"Freedom is when women wear short skirts"

Avg mentality of hindpoo secoolars

 

[Cuckoja]

"Freedom is when women wear short skirts"

Jfl true. Why for foids freedom only means sexuality. They dont see the world past sex.

 

[Notkev]

View: https://x.com/historyinmemes/status/1844732434019201390


What's most ironic about this Western obsession with feminism is that if you looked at certain key statistics about life in Iran, then you could not distinguish it from a feminist country!

Namely, the majority of Iranian university students are female and Iran has a "below replacement" fertility rate on par with any developed country. This indicates that Iranian women are encouraged to be careerists for the same reasons as any urbanized, industrial economy, and hardly forced to have families and stay indoors like presumably is still the case across the border in ultra-rural Afghanistan.

In fact, the situation seems to be more stark than just that:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/vhj4x9/iran_has_the_highest_female_to_male_ratio_in/


Iranian women are most likely of anywhere to pursue STEM careers

This reminds me of the paradoxical fact that gender norms in terms of occupational roles are more entrenched in egalitarian countries than traditional ones! That is, women in overtly feminist countries are more likely to work in occupations such as nursing and teaching than in physical labor or STEM. And conversely, women in overtly traditional countries are actually more likely to work in physical labor or STEM!

This is attributed to the fact that women in egalitarian (and invariably affluent) countries are free to pursue their intrinsically feminine proclivities (i.e., working in care-taker positions, like the aforementioned nursing and teaching). Whereas in traditional countries (which are invariably poorer), women are forced to work hard careers which will net them the most money. Life is less comfortable, and so women take on masculine roles by necessity. You could say that "hard times make tough women"

It is a stunning example of the contradictions between overt and covert forms. Iran is overtly traditional in terms of gender, but covertly a feminist success story. Western programs to "get women into STEM" have miserably failed where Iran succeeds!

Except the West certainly does succeed at overt feminism (muh short skirts)

It is funny to read the women responding to the Twitter thread, talking about their "liberty." The same liberty to make their own decisions that would motivate women to signal their fertility and femininity by wearing a short skirt also causes them to eschew some of the high status masculine gender roles which modern feminism would want them to adopt in the workplace.

Another topic this touches on is the fact that some level of oppression is actually good for you. The Jews would not be the financial success story they are today if not for being oppressed throughout history. Oppression can represent the resistance that causes muscles to grow during weight lifting. If the weight/oppression is not so unbearable as to cause severe injury, then you will heal and grow stronger in the end.

If Iranian women were "liberated," half of them would just migrate to the West to get fucked by Chad while studying liberal arts in university, while the other half would work unproductive fake jobs at home that merely simulate childcare of the children they never had.

Iran is a big incel factory. I see it every day. What more freedom do these cunts even want is what I'm curious about, other than fucking hijab of course.

 

[solblue]

Those pics are just Zionist propaganda. "Oy vey Americans, you need to help us invade Iran so we can make their women whores again". This rhetoric appeals to simp libs and white knight conservatives.