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Let’s discuss personality and debunk some shitty arguments.
Key ideas:
-Posting on Incel forums doesn’t necessarily mean you have a “bad” personality in real life
-You are generally self-aware of how you come across in real life
One thing before we begin, I hope its clear that we all know the behavior an individual is not necessarily influenced by the individuals own personality, but rather the social identity of the group. Anonymity on the internet changes the behavior from what you’d expect to behave like in real life. It’s known in social psychology as the concept of Deindividuation. Some studies include Zimbardo’s famous 1969 study and Palasinski (2012), The roles of monitoring and cyberbystanders in reducing sexual abuse. Computers in Human Behavior
Most of you have probably heard of the big five personality model, which in psychology, is known to be the most scientifically validated and reliable model used to measure someone’s personality. It consists of the five factors which Goldberg defined in the 1960s:
1.Extroversion
2.Agreeableness
3.Conscientiousness
4.Neuroticism
5.Openness to Experience
The two traits that most of agree can likely be correlated with a ‘bad’ personality are being low in agreeableness and high in neuroticism. That is, people on the lower end of the agreeableness spectrum tend be less likely to be trusted, rude, antagonistic, etc. And those high in neuroticism are more prone to sadness, anxiety, worry and low self-esteem.
The claim that we, ourselves, are unaware(keyword) or that we misjudge our own personalities of how we come across in real life is complete bullshit.
A 2014 research paper (see link below) showed that online observers can’t accurately judge the neuroticism relative to offline observers (based on the reporting of the self-rating). Offline friends provided ratings significantly close to participant’s own self-reports of Neuroticism than did online friends. Basically, what you think you act like in real life, more closely resembles to how other people in real life perceive you rather than how online peers perceive your personality to be from your online identity.
One of the main focuses of the paper (shyness) interpreted that anonymity allows you to express your general belief system in a less inhibited way.
When we begin to dig into the depth about the difference between cause and effect on attitudes related to Inceldom (which I think is better left for another thread), the apparent attitude that results from the Blackpill is actually completely natural reaction to the current social situation. I think it’s more of a misconception about whether we have common sense, which we should just ignore.
Marriott 2014 - https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.chb.2013.11.014
Links of influencing aspects on online anonymity:
https://digitalcommons.unf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1472&context=etd
@Edmund_Kemper @JosefMengelecel thoughts?
Key ideas:
-Posting on Incel forums doesn’t necessarily mean you have a “bad” personality in real life
-You are generally self-aware of how you come across in real life
One thing before we begin, I hope its clear that we all know the behavior an individual is not necessarily influenced by the individuals own personality, but rather the social identity of the group. Anonymity on the internet changes the behavior from what you’d expect to behave like in real life. It’s known in social psychology as the concept of Deindividuation. Some studies include Zimbardo’s famous 1969 study and Palasinski (2012), The roles of monitoring and cyberbystanders in reducing sexual abuse. Computers in Human Behavior
Most of you have probably heard of the big five personality model, which in psychology, is known to be the most scientifically validated and reliable model used to measure someone’s personality. It consists of the five factors which Goldberg defined in the 1960s:
1.Extroversion
2.Agreeableness
3.Conscientiousness
4.Neuroticism
5.Openness to Experience
The two traits that most of agree can likely be correlated with a ‘bad’ personality are being low in agreeableness and high in neuroticism. That is, people on the lower end of the agreeableness spectrum tend be less likely to be trusted, rude, antagonistic, etc. And those high in neuroticism are more prone to sadness, anxiety, worry and low self-esteem.
The claim that we, ourselves, are unaware(keyword) or that we misjudge our own personalities of how we come across in real life is complete bullshit.
A 2014 research paper (see link below) showed that online observers can’t accurately judge the neuroticism relative to offline observers (based on the reporting of the self-rating). Offline friends provided ratings significantly close to participant’s own self-reports of Neuroticism than did online friends. Basically, what you think you act like in real life, more closely resembles to how other people in real life perceive you rather than how online peers perceive your personality to be from your online identity.
Both online and offline observers’ ratings of Extroversion, Agreeableness and Conscientiousness correlated with participants’ self-reports. However, only offline observers’ ratings of Neuroticism correlated with participants’ own. Except for Neuroticism, the similarity of online and offline observers’ personality ratings to participants’ self-reports did not differ significantly. The study provides no evidence that online self-presentations are more authentic; indeed Neuroticism may be more visibly expressed offline.
One of the main focuses of the paper (shyness) interpreted that anonymity allows you to express your general belief system in a less inhibited way.
When we begin to dig into the depth about the difference between cause and effect on attitudes related to Inceldom (which I think is better left for another thread), the apparent attitude that results from the Blackpill is actually completely natural reaction to the current social situation. I think it’s more of a misconception about whether we have common sense, which we should just ignore.
Marriott 2014 - https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.chb.2013.11.014
Links of influencing aspects on online anonymity:
https://digitalcommons.unf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1472&context=etd
@Edmund_Kemper @JosefMengelecel thoughts?
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