Parents Keep Telling me to "go to the doctor" i.e. therapy

[crew2]

My parents ultimate response to everything when I come to the conclusion that I am not good enough for women to even look at is to go to the doctor i.e. get therapy and medication as maybe he has the "right answers", because "they don't have the answers".

Yes I understand they don't have the answers but that didn't stop those below average bastards from fucking without protection and spitting me out into this shithole of a world that has spat on and looked down on me for 33 years straight.

Today I was on the train and in the gym and noticed girls looking past me left right and centre at other guys, not chads but just above average to decent looking guys but I keep telling myself the same thing they tell me, that it's in my head and these people are just looking around in general. 

Anyway I'm standing waiting for the train in my best clothes with a great haircut I just had and there are a lot of girls around and again a decent looking guy turns up about age 25 or so and I can see women looking at him now and again right past me like I'm not even there. I tell myself "it's just your imagination. He is no better than you, you look great".

Then we all get on the same train and as we are about to leave these two girls who are about age 20 - 23, both 4 and 5 out of ten at best get up and they clap eyes on this guy and are eyeing him up and down like crazy. Then I hear them say "stop looking at him. No go on just look quick, he is really nice etc etc" you get the idea so anyway this destroys me inside because it confirms that what I think is happening is indeed happening. My only hope is that they looked right past me like this because I am too old for them but that will likely be classed as coping.

This brings me to my point because the main copes of therapy are the following:-

- It's because you are not confident enough. This is thrown out the window in the above situation because they literally looked right past me at this guy in a split second, they didn't notice how confident either of us were. The guy was sitting there with his head down and I was standing there. Confidence is intangible which is why it's the easiest cop out, it's like saying someone didn't pray hard enough.

- It's your imagination. The conversation between the girls I overheard proves this is bullshit as the same look they gave this guy happens everywhere. And by the way they knew quite well I could hear every word they said as they were standing right in front of me but didn't give a shit.

- Focus on other things. I don't even need to address this cowardly response. The problem with THINGS is that women/cunts are involved in pretty much all things. I can't even get the fucking train without experiencing this constantly so imagine if I did even more "things" which would just likely create more situations like this

- Approach women more. We all know that a lack of eye contact from a woman is the same as a rejection. Women make eye contact as an invitation to approach. Lack of it is a warning to stay away.

I'm now thinking that I just go to therapy to simply prove my parents wrong and ram it down there throats when I prove that it is as useless as anything ever conceived for this problem. Therapy can only help heal the sort of pain that will be healed with time anyway.

 

[Deleted member 306]

lol parents are sutpid and anyone who suggests therapy is. It's all about genetics. You can't ecape the blackpill nor the laws of nature.

 

[coldmachinery]

Therapists are normal functioning members of society. I remember I was under performing I'm school and the counselor (licensed therapist though) I was seeing there at the time suggested to my father he kick me out of time he house for awhile. That wasn't the problem, I can understand that advice, but how he justified it amazed me. He said he did that to his son, and he spent two weeks staying at his friends or girlfriends houses. It was like he couldn't fathom the life of an incel. I never had any issue with counselors ever, but this was just too much to contain. I told him to fuck off, and convinced Teo people who were going to see him to see a different counselor.

 

[crew2]

lol parents are sutpid and anyone who suggests therapy is. It's all about genetics. You can't ecape the blackpill nor the laws of nature.

My problem is I look in the mirror and don't see anything wrong with myself. I am 33 years old but people still think I'm in my 20s. I've just had a hair transplant to try to fix my hair loss and that's going well. I have ginger hair but I see a lot of ginger men doing fine in my area.

Nothing about my face that I think I could really fix. I've sent pictures of myself to people on this forum and some of them aren't sure what I could fix.

Yet for some reason ugly women don't even see me. It's not like they take a look at me, size me up and then look away, it's that they don't even see me literally, like their eyes don't pick me up.

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Therapists are normal functioning members of society.  I remember I was under performing I'm school and the counselor (licensed therapist though) I was seeing there at the time suggested to my father he kick me out of time he house for awhile. That wasn't the problem, I can understand that advice, but how he justified it amazed me. He said he did that to his son, and he spent two weeks staying at his friends or girlfriends houses. It was like he couldn't fathom the life of an incel. I never had any issue with counselors ever, but this was just too much to contain. I told him to fuck off, and convinced Teo people who were going to see him to see a different counselor.

I have a unique insight into this as my cousin is a psychologist and does CBT and I've spoken to him about my issues at length and he has gone down every road I mentioned above - imagination, confidence, focusing on other things, approach more.

He even said one tactic they use is to make people more mentally strong so that they can deal with these things if they are indeed happening but I can't see how that's possible. Some guys words and going to make me mentally stronger against being unattractive to women.

I've moved out several times but I'm back with my parents now. My dad is the worst because he is retired so when I come home he acts very happy and if I don't give him a happy enough response he makes it about him saying that I "don't want to talk to him" and that I hate him. He also sees me being in a bad mood as a hindrance to his life and says him and my mum can't take it. My sadness actually angers him.

 

[Deleted member 1627]

You don't want bullshit platitudes

 

[coldmachinery]

lol parents are sutpid and anyone who suggests therapy is. It's all about genetics. You can't ecape the blackpill nor the laws of nature.

My problem is I look in the mirror and don't see anything wrong with myself. I am 33 years old but people still think I'm in my 20s. I've just had a hair transplant to try to fix my hair loss and that's going well. I have ginger hair but I see a lot of ginger men doing fine in my area.
Nothing about my face that I think I could really fix. I've sent pictures of myself to people on this forum and some of them aren't sure what I could fix.
Yet for some reason ugly women don't even see me. It's not like they take a look at me, size me up and then look away, it's that they don't even see me literally, like their eyes don't pick me up.

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Therapists are normal functioning members of society. I remember I was under performing I'm school and the counselor (licensed therapist though) I was seeing there at the time suggested to my father he kick me out of time he house for awhile. That wasn't the problem, I can understand that advice, but how he justified it amazed me. He said he did that to his son, and he spent two weeks staying at his friends or girlfriends houses. It was like he couldn't fathom the life of an incel. I never had any issue with counselors ever, but this was just too much to contain. I told him to fuck off, and convinced Teo people who were going to see him to see a different counselor.

I have a unique insight into this as my cousin is a psychologist and does CBT and I've spoken to him about my issues at length and he has gone down every road I mentioned above - imagination, confidence, focusing on other things, approach more.
He even said one tactic they use is to make people more mentally strong so that they can deal with these things if they are indeed happening but I can't see how that's possible. Some guys words and going to make me mentally stronger against being unattractive to women.
I've moved out several times but I'm back with my parents now. My dad is the worst because he is retired so when I come home he acts very happy and if I don't give him a happy enough response he makes it about him saying that I "don't want to talk to him" and that I hate him. He also sees me being in a bad mood as a hindrance to his life and says him and my mum can't take it. My sadness actually angers him.

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I can relate man. I hate making my dad depressed because I'm so miserable. He is such a good person. I remember before thinking man I can't kill myself when my dad is alive to shit I need to kill myself so my dad doesn't see what has become of me. Or doesn't have to keep getting let down.

 

[crew2]

You don't want bullshit platitudes

Very true but if it at least shuts them up about therapy it's worth it. The bitterness that's built inside me makes me want to go there to actually mess with the therapists head and show him that he has no chance of fixing me and will fail just to prove a point.

 

[asdf1234]

My parents ultimate response to everything when I come to the conclusion that I am not good enough for women to even look at is to go to the doctor i.e. get therapy and medication as maybe he has the "right answers", because "they don't have the answers".

Yes I understand they don't have the answers but that didn't stop those below average bastards from fucking without protection and spitting me out into this shithole of a world that has spat on and looked down on me for 33 years straight.

Today I was on the train and in the gym and noticed girls looking past me left right and centre at other guys, not chads but just above average to decent looking guys but I keep telling myself the same thing they tell me, that it's in my head and these people are just looking around in general. 

Anyway I'm standing waiting for the train in my best clothes with a great haircut I just had and there are a lot of girls around and again a decent looking guy turns up about age 25 or so and I can see women looking at him now and again right past me like I'm not even there. I tell myself "it's just your imagination. He is no better than you, you look great".

Then we all get on the same train and as we are about to leave these two girls who are about age 20 - 23, both 4 and 5 out of ten at best get up and they clap eyes on this guy and are eyeing him up and down like crazy. Then I hear them say "stop looking at him. No go on just look quick, he is really nice etc etc" you get the idea so anyway this destroys me inside because it confirms that what I think is happening is indeed happening. My only hope is that they looked right past me like this because I am too old for them but that will likely be classed as coping.

This brings me to my point because the main copes of therapy are the following:-

- It's because you are not confident enough. This is thrown out the window in the above situation because they literally looked right past me at this guy in a split second, they didn't notice how confident either of us were. The guy was sitting there with his head down and I was standing there. Confidence is intangible which is why it's the easiest cop out, it's like saying someone didn't pray hard enough.

- It's your imagination. The conversation between the girls I overheard proves this is bullshit as the same look they gave this guy happens everywhere. And by the way they knew quite well I could hear every word they said as they were standing right in front of me but didn't give a shit.

- Focus on other things. I don't even need to address this cowardly response. The problem with THINGS is that women/cunts are involved in pretty much all things. I can't even get the fucking train without experiencing this constantly so imagine if I did even more "things" which would just likely create more situations like this

- Approach women more. We all know that a lack of eye contact from a woman is the same as a rejection. Women make eye contact as an invitation to approach. Lack of it is a warning to stay away.

I'm now thinking that I just go to therapy to simply prove my parents wrong and ram it down there throats when I prove that it is as useless as anything ever conceived for this problem. Therapy can only help heal the sort of pain that will be healed with time anyway.

Therapy is for dumb shits that are gullible. Went to a therapist once, dude was such a cunt that all he did was tell me how great his life is and how great mu life could be if i followed his bullshit tactics

 

[crew2]

I can relate man. I hate making my dad depressed because I'm so miserable. He is such a good person. I remember before thinking man I can't kill myself when my dad is alive to shit I need to kill myself so my dad doesn't see what has become of me. Or doesn't have to keep getting let down.

My dad is a good guy too don't get me wrong but he did his part in shaping my personality. When I was younger girls in school and college were oblivious to me and lusted after others which made me feel shit and when I came home my dad was always complaining about noises and untidyness to extreme levels. He has OCD and used to complain about things like walking down the stairs too loud, running the water too much or things not being tidied away perfectly. According to my cousin the psychologist, moaning at yours kids in this way is actually more damaging than outright beating them up because it is someone you still love constantly making you feel like everything you do is wrong which hugely damages your confidence. So because I was getting this from my dad and wasn't accepted by girls in school my self worth was hammered from both sides basically.

Between the arguments about my incel issues my dad is desperately trying to make up for this now but it's too late and a mix of knowing that the way he treated me as a child and his genetics has contributed to me being the way I am has caused me to not be able to make the connection with him that I should.

He is threatening to kick me out if I try to looksmatch through surgeries so I have threatened to slit my throat with a blade I have in front of my mum and dad if he tries to go through with that.

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Therapy is for dumb shits that are gullible. Went to a therapist once, dude was such a cunt that all he did was tell me how great his life is and how great mu life could be if i followed his bullshit tactics

What were his tactics Alsalsk?

I'm trying to come up with responses for whatever they can suggest. Best case scenario the therapist may say that I am beyond help and need plastic surgery paid for by the government.

 

[asdf1234]

What were his tactics Alsalsk?

I'm trying to come up with responses for whatever they can suggest. Best case scenario the therapist may say that I am beyond help and need plastic surgery paid for by the government.

Lol, therapists will never be this honest.

I just told my therapisr about how being ugly has been me been bullied, ignored sidelined through my life and he told me that these thinga were internalized and that i would live a life just as good as any if i had cuntfidunce and how im doing everythinf wrong in my life. How i should be going for 100000+ salary jobs and working for society to make my life happy. Lol, the fucker was delusional, an incel like me can never get a good paying job, employers see me and tell me to fuck off

 

[crew2]

Lol, therapists will never be this honest.

I just told my therapisr about how being ugly has been me been bullied, ignored sidelined through my life and he told me that these thinga were internalized and that i would live a life just as good as any if i had cuntfidunce and how im doing everythinf wrong in my life. How i should be going for 100000+ salary jobs and working for society to make my life happy. Lol, the fucker was delusional, an incel like me can never get a good paying job, employers see me and tell me to fuck off

Ha. So basically focus on other things (job) / it's in your imagination (internalized).

The problem is with this shit is if you turn around and tell him about actual situations that are happening which prove that you're right he will switch to another excuse.