Parasitic sex is appealing

[boojies]

This isn't a humble brag thread as you can rest assured that I'm a kissless virgin incel of the highest order. It's just a thread for calling attention to the humor and fun involved with sexual parasitism, of which there are numerous forms. I will start things off with three -- all of which are legal, or largely legal depending on jurisdiction -- though there are numerous others.

Short Term Mate Poaching

A precursor to brood parasitism,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brood_parasitism

Brood parasites are organisms that rely on others to raise their young. The strategy appears among birds, insects and some fish. The brood parasite manipulates a host, either of the same or of another species, to raise its young as if it were its own, using brood mimicry, for example by having eggs that resemble the host's (egg mimicry).

Brood parasitism relieves the parasitic parents from the investment of rearing young or building nests for the young, enabling them to spend more time on other activities such as foraging and producing further offspring. Bird parasite species mitigate the risk of egg loss by distributing eggs amongst a number of different hosts.[1] As this behaviour damages the host, it often results in an evolutionary arms race between parasite and host as the pair of species coevolve.[2][3]

https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2015/09/Human_Mate_Poaching_2001.pdf

There are two general strategies by which the problem of providing exceedingly valuable benefits to the potential mate can be solved by the would-be mate poacher (Schmitt & Buss, 1996). The first involves displaying attraction tactics designed to more fully embody the desires of the potential mate, when compared with the regular mate. Besting the regular mate on desirable qualities offers one way to offset the target's costs of defecting from the existing mateship. The second strategy involves denigrate-ing the regular mate to make him or her seem less desirable to the targeted mate in comparison with the mate poacher. This could be accomplished, for example, by questioning the commitment of the regular mate, implying the regular mate is cheating on him or her, or derogating the regular mate's appearance.

Enhance Physical Appearance showed a main effect for sex of actor, F(1, 360) = 444.38, p < .001, as did Derogate Rival's Physical Appearance, F(1, 360) = 23.01, p < .001. Derogating the rival's physical appearance, however, was judged notably less effective than enhancing one's own appearance. It is interesting to note that both mate poaching tactics were judged more effective for women in the short-term mating context--corresponding with the finding that both sexes place a greater premium on physical attractiveness in in short-term mating than in long-term mating (Buss & Schmitt, 1993; Gangestad & Thornhill, 1997).

short term mate poaching involves the identification of a female already in a long term relationship with another male, toward surreptitiously impregnating her toward having her pass the child off to her LTR as his own. Females by evolution are inclined toward such strategies:

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Near-Ovulation-Your-Cheatin-Heart-6713?RelNum=6713

New research from UCLA and the University of New Mexico suggests that members of "the gentler sex" may have evolved to cheat on their mates during the most fertile part of their cycle — but only when those mates are less sexually attractive than other men.

"Women know they have attractions that come and go, but they probably don't realize that these urges are tied to their cycle — as well as our evolutionary past," said Martie G. Haselton, a UCLA researcher and author of two new studies on the subject. "They just know that suddenly one day they're attracted to their hunky neighbor or handsome co-worker."

Men, meanwhile, seem to be aware on some level of this possibility and appear to step up mate-guarding strategies when their wives or girlfriends ovulate, even when neither is keeping track of the woman's cycle, the research shows.

"They just know that suddenly one day they're attracted to their hunky neighbor or handsome co-worker."

Men, meanwhile, seem to be aware on some level of this possibility and appear to step up mate-guarding strategies when their wives or girlfriends ovulate, even when neither is keeping track of the woman's cycle, the research shows.

https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/vie...ttpsredir=1&article=2313&context=utk_gradthes

For example, females evidence less sexually promiscuity (Schmitt, 2003), are more exacting in their preferences for short-term reproductive partners (Gangestad et al., 2007), and value resources and social-status for long-term mates (Buss, 1989) much more so than do males. Additionally, recent research shows female’s preferences dramatically fluctuate as a function of their ovulatory cycle.

Infidelity and cuckolding techniques may have developed as a means to obtain high-quality genes for offspring (short-term contribution) and retain a primary partner for caring for such offspring (long-term contribution). In fact, it has been suggested that males have developed psychological adaptations to combat caring for non-genetically related offspring. Male Sexual jealousy and mate-guarding techniques, particularly during partner’s high-fertility periods,have been suggested to have emerged as a response to avoid being cuckolded (Buss, 1989; Shackleford et al., 2002; Buss, 2002).

However, ancestral females may have found a way to help conceal acts of infidelity.

The benefit of success for the male engaging in this strategy is that he gets a genetic heir that is raised at the expense of the losing male:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...rt-s-kid-didn-t-girlfriend-cheating-time.html

Oklahoma man is forced to pay child support for baby his cheating wife conceived with her lover

Thomas did not think his wife was cheating on him when she became pregnant
He asked for a DNA test when the child turned three which proved he wasn't the father
Oklahoma law says someone must ask for a paternity test within two years or be forced to pay child support

Males use mate guarding strategies, as well as sperm competition strategies, to try to counter this risk:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_guarding_in_humans

Human mate guarding refers to behaviours employed by both males and females with the aim of maintaining reproductive opportunities and sexual access to a mate. It involves discouraging the current mate from abandoning the relationship whilst also warding off intrasexual (same sex) rivals.

The successful short term mate poach needs to surreptitiously gain access to the female of the victim male, with the female typically being the first to signal willingness for such a strategy.

One strong protection from this strategy is paternity testing, but numerous nations have outlawed it and will imprison the males that attempt using it to defend themselves from brood parasitism at the hands of short term mate poachers.

https://www.ibdna.com/paternity-testing-ban-upheld-in-france/

Paternity Testing Ban Upheld in France

If those samples were found in the post by officials on their way to foreign laboratories, the French men who sent them could theoretically face a year in prison and a 15,000 Euro fine. This year the ban was challenged but the French Government decided to uphold and maintain the anti-paternity testing law.

The reasons for which the Government said the ban should remain were related to the preservation of peace within French families. According to some online articles, Germany, has also banned (or plans to ban) paternity testing for similar reasons. French psychologists suggest that fatherhood is determined by society not by biology. For this reason, the President’s wife Carla Bruni describes her father as the man ‘from whom she takes her name’. She is friends with her biological dad too but she doesn’t refer to him, or think of him as, her father.

https://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/france-upholds-the-ban-on-paternity-tests/

France upholds the ban on paternity tests

Don’t worry! There’s no mistake in the title. It is true – French men are forbidden by law to attempt to find out whether the child they are paying for is in fact their child or not. In fact, it has been illegal for men to attempt to find out if their child is theirs for many years. But a few days ago, the ban was challenged once again–and the government upheld the ban.

False Signaling

Exists in numerous forms, including money and status false signaling

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4w5w7g/is-lying-to-get-laid-a-form-of-sexual-assault

Joyce Short was young and single, enjoying a thriving career on Wall Street, when she went out with some friends to a bar after work. She met a "very handsome, debonair young man" who seemed perfect for her: Jewish, single, with a degree in accounting from NYU. She would learn much later, after they had begun dating, that none of this was true. Now, she has a mission: she wants to show people the seriousness of what she calls "rape by fraud."

as well as genetic fitness false signaling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_theory

Because there are both mutual and conflicting interests in most animal signalling systems, a central problem in signalling theory is dishonesty or cheating. For example, if foraging birds are safer when they give a warning call, cheats could give false alarms at random, just in case a predator is nearby. But too much cheating could cause the signalling system to collapse. Every dishonest signal weakens the integrity of the signalling system, and so reduces the fitness of the group.[16][17] An example of dishonest signalling comes from Fiddler crabs such as Uca lactea mjoebergi, which have been shown to bluff (no conscious intention being implied) about their fighting ability. When a claw is lost, a crab occasionally regrows a weaker claw that nevertheless intimidates crabs with smaller but stronger claws.[18][19] The proportion of dishonest signals is low enough for it not to be worthwhile for crabs to test the honesty of every signal through combat.[16]

The point is to become sexually competitive with someone who has more honest genetic fitness than you, toward impairing the ability of potential mates to select them over you. Some of the best examples of this strategy involve females making use of it:

For example, the first girl falsely signaled genetic fitness and went from being overlooked when competition from the second girl was present, to being able to hold her own against her in the attraction of mating attempts from males. There are numerous paradigms involved with false genetic fitness signaling, ranging from cosmetics to surgeries and beyond.

The 40-year-old groom divorced his 35-year-old bride, said the doctor, because the husband believed she did not look as pretty as before the wedding and accused her of deceiving him by using so many cosmetics, including fake eyelashes.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...wife-ugly-court-AGREES--awarding-120-000.html

Jian Feng was confused after his wife gave birth to an 'incredibly ugly' baby

This can allow for successful reproduction with mates who would otherwise have selected superior honest signaling competitors, which is intrinsic with the defeat of the competitors for those mates. In a competitive mating paradigm, it is the goal of Stacy to successfully signal to Chad and for Chad to successfully signal to Stacy, however mimics of Stacy -- being low genetic fitness females -- as well as mimics of Chad -- being low genetic fitness males -- attempt to confound the ability of Chad to select Stacy and Stacy to select Chad, all the while aiming to successfully select the potential mate with honest genetic fitness themselves. This leads to somewhat of an arms race as honest signalers evolve to authenticate their signals against the false signaling attempts of the mimics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batesian_mimicry

Mimicry can result in an evolutionary arms race if mimicry negatively affects the model, and the model can evolve a different appearance from the mimic.[5]p161

Perfect teeth falsely signaled, gap authenticates natural straightness.

There are various techniques of maintaining the illusion of authenticity of a false signal, as well as techniques for attempting to authenticate the honesty of a signal. For example, using hair spray in some hair systems can make it harder to by touch detect their falsity, and leading females into situations such as swimming can reduce their ability for maintaining the false signaling associated with makeup.











Birth Control Sabotage

The use of techniques such as getting a mate to use legal supplements that unbeknownst to them deactivate hormonal birth control; also, introducing intentional defects into condoms to allow semen to leak out of them. Surprisingly, these techniques are legal in many jurisdictions.

https://stories.avvo.com/nakedlaw/bizarre/is-it-illegal-to-sabotage-your-partners-birth-control.html

Like rape, reproductive coercion is an act of control over another person. However, it is not a crime—though the ACOG says it should be.

The intention of the technique is clear. In the event that a female is receptive to sex but not to reproduction, her ability to prevent reproduction can be diminished.












So, what are your thoughts?

I find the thought of parasitic mating to be quite arousing, but also have some reservations regarding it. Do you think it would be fun to impair the ability of a Chad to successfully signal his honest fitness to a Stacey and to successfully mislead a hot foid into mating with you -- with birth control disabled -- toward cucking her long term mate with brood parasites?

 

[AutisticCopecel]

you dont actually believe that im gona read all of this do you?

 

[boojies]

Do you actually believe I have any thoughts whatsoever regarding you?

 

[Smallframecel]

A+ for effort

 

[AutisticCopecel]

Do you actually believe I have any thoughts whatsoever regarding you?

im not trying to insult you but i assume most people are not gona read all of this we need tl;dr

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

Interesting.

The point is to become sexually competitive with someone who has more honest genetic fitness than you, toward impairing the ability of potential mates to select them over you.

I don't understand this one tho. You mean the blond girl can change her face depending on the situation ? It's weird, it seems like she had surgery and changed her bone structure.

 

[AsiaCel]

Interesting. I briefly read the content.

Basically faking looks in order to be able to compete for reproduction, like fakeups.

 

[boojies]

Interesting.

I don't understand this one tho. You mean the blond girl can change her face depending on the situation ? It's weird, it seems like she had surgery and changed her bone structure.

She had a Lefort 3 and greatly improved her apparent genetic fitness, but ultimately her genetic fitness is exactly the same as it was prior. When biologists study this phenomenon in nonhuman animals they call it cheating. Essentially, prior to modifying their appearances you could say that these two are matched and would mate with one another:

And that these two are matched and would mate with one another:

So, those two are called the models and they are the ideal mates essentially who are competing. However, the bald man and the misshapen girl use techniques to create the impression that they are the models of their gender, which is called falsely signaling genetic fitness, and they are then called mimics.

So, the goal of models is to signal to each other that they are models, which is called honestly signaling genetic fitness, whereas the goal of mimics is to signal to models that they are models, which is called falsely signaling genetic fitness. Both models and mimics want to detect mimics so they can avoid mating with them, as they are of low genetic fitness and produce unfit progeny that typically disadvantage the model siring or birthing them (ie: the female model tricked into reproduction with a mimic gives birth to a lower quality child than expected, and the male tricked into reproduction with a lower quality female has then a lower quality child than expected too -- but nevertheless the male needs to pay child support for the child, and the female has to raise the child or give it up for adoption essentially -- so they are evolutionarily disadvantaged due to failing to screen out mimics, whereas the mimics are advantaged due to successfully passing themselves off as models).

So, falsely signaling genetic fitness as a male means that you mimic the model male and aim to prevent females from distinguishing him as the true model and therefore rejecting you and selecting him, which is disadvantageous to the male model as you essentially are counterfeiting his honest genetic signaling capacity and passing it off as real which results in inflation or hyperinflation of his genetic fitness if many people do so, and that means whereas he would otherwise have always been selected due to having truly more genetic fitness, due to the degree of counterfeiting of his attractive attributes he is put under stronger sexual competition and is selected less and less so -- as the mimics of his fitness are in some instances mistaken as being him by the females he competes for. And it is disadvantageous for the females that select incorrectly, as they want to distinguish the model from the mimics to select him, as they are interested in the genetic correlates of his honest signals, and the false signalers haven't his actual desirable genetic correlates and produce inferior children and such as compared to him.

So it is a game of counterfeiting the appearance of more genetically fit males and essentially passing the counterfeit genetic capital off to females, and using techniques to impair the ability of the honest signaler to authenticate himself as the model to the competed for females, and for the female to distinguish between you -- and also conversely is a game of distinguishing between the available females to screen out the mimics and focus your attention on the models, with the mimic females doing the same thing essentially in that they are trying to screen out mimic males and to pass themselves off as models to actual model males.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

She had a Lefort 3 and greatly improved her apparent genetic fitness, but ultimately her genetic fitness is exactly the same as it was prior. When biologists study this phenomenon in nonhuman animals they call it cheating. Essentially, prior to modifying their appearances you could say that these two are matched and would mate with one another:

And that these two are matched and would mate with one another:

So, those two are called the models and they are the ideal mates essentially who are competing. However, the bald man and the misshapen girl use techniques to create the impression that they are the models of their gender, which is called falsely signaling genetic fitness, and they are then called mimics.

So, the goal of models is to signal to each other that they are models, which is called honestly signaling genetic fitness, whereas the goal of mimics is to signal to models that they are models, which is called falsely signaling genetic fitness. Both models and mimics want to detect mimics so they can avoid mating with them, as they are of low genetic fitness and produce unfit progeny that typically disadvantage the model siring or birthing them (ie: the female model tricked into reproduction with a mimic gives birth to a lower quality child than expected, and the male tricked into reproduction with a lower quality female has then a lower quality child than expected too -- but nevertheless the male needs to pay child support for the child, and the female has to raise the child or give it up for adoption essentially -- so they are evolutionarily disadvantaged due to failing to screen out mimics, whereas the mimics are advantaged due to successfully passing themselves off as models).

So, falsely signaling genetic fitness as a male means that you mimic the model male and aim to prevent females from distinguishing him as the true model and therefore rejecting you and selecting him, which is disadvantageous to the male model as you essentially are counterfeiting his honest genetic signaling capacity and passing it off as real which results in inflation or hyperinflation of his genetic fitness if many people do so, and that means whereas he would otherwise have always been selected due to having truly more genetic fitness, due to the degree of counterfeiting of his attractive attributes he is put under stronger sexual competition and is selected less and less so as the mimics of his fitness are in some instances mistaken as being him by the females he competes for. And it is disadvantageous for the females that select incorrectly, as they want to distinguish the model from the mimics to select him, as they are interested in the genetic correlates of his honest signals, and the false signalers haven't his actual desirable genetic correlates and produce inferior children and such as compared to him.

So it is a game of counterfeiting the appearance of more genetically fit males and essentially passing the counterfeit genetic capital off to females, and using techniques to impair the ability of the honest signaler to authenticate himself as the model to the competed for females, and for the female to distinguish between you -- and also conversely is a game of distinguishing between the available females to screen out the mimics and focus your attention on the models, with the mimic females doing the same thing essentially in that they are trying to screen out mimic males and to pass themselves off as models to actual model males.

I see. I regret using google image to look for Lefort 3 ngl.

 

[boojies]

nice

I know right? I think it is funny. I've not tried anything like this yet and am in fact an incel virgin, but I think it would be hilarious to scam a hot female out of her genetic fitness and to fuck her over. To find a female who would want to reject me, which is evolutionarily disadvantageous for me as well as not a fun experience -- but to spam her with counterfeit genetic fitness, and to birth control sabotage her, such that in addition to failing to reject me she has to carry my child, even as my true appearance, status, and so forth, disgusts her.

And funny as well to fuck a Chad out of females. I want him to try to signal his honest genetic fitness but to be incapable of actually distinguishing himself from mimics and to therefore be evolutionarily fucked out of his honest genetic fitness.

People get sometimes quite upset at the cheaters:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100819121208.htm

Rather than wasting energy by constantly fighting with rivals, many animals use signals that say, in effect, "Don't mess with me; I can whip you." But what's to prevent a weakling from gaining the upper hand by falsely signaling strength?

One explanation for why that doesn't often happen is that phony signalers are punished for their misdeeds. For cheaters to be punished, though, the deception must be detected. So how does an animal know its rival is cheating, and what does it gain by punishing the cheater? Those are questions Tibbetts and Izzo set out to explore, using the paper wasp Polistes dominulus, a widespread species that nests on the eaves of houses throughout the U.S. and Europe.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/pe...tty-woman-disfigured-jealous-best-friend.html

Woman who spent £7,000 on plastic surgery is disfigured by her jealous best friend because 'she has become too pretty'

But I think it is funny to cheat the fit out of their genetic fitness as a sexual parasite .