Yeah, I've learned so much just by reading the little bios they have.nausea said:
Any tips for getting strong militarily?
Any tips for getting strong militarily?
Minjaze said:
ahhhhhhhhhhh thx for the question
wanna a complex answer or some simplified one?
What in particular don't you like? Just curious.nausea said:
You should go for it! It's always nice to come back to a game you haven't played in forever, it feels so fresh and new again.
No problem.nausea said:
Why not both? Haha.
they nerfed the degree of control of the player in battles, judging from material avaiable online ehMinjaze said:
if you like, I will be grateful to know your experience with the game
I am expert at doing thisMinjaze said:
I am not motherlanguage, if you don't understand something just ask for clarificationMinjaze said:
Minjaze said:
editing, wait
@Minjaze
premise: it really depends on which character you play as
aside from that, I will take the absolutist approach on LAND warfare, and here it is.................................
the most powerful things are orders and mercs, you need to have money but it's worth it
in my experience, getting strong militarily involves planning way ahead of times, my style is usually this: stay on the hystorical pathway as much as possible, try to reach the hystorical goals of one specific nation and move from that on
tips, in short:
1 always plan
2 always consider the worst case scenario
that is the basis
technicalities:
1 enforce balanced laws
2 keep your vassals happy or kick em out
3 consider your personal retinue first and foremost
4 direct your tech advancements
5 invest to improve your structures
now on the warfare itself:
supposing you know how to pick your battle leaders, I focus on heavy infantry as the centre of my formation, you will find they last longer even when pressured, allowing you to make adjustements
when I call to arms, I raise my loyalist first and it may be enough, if not I resort to call in the other vassals but always try to minimize the penalties ( I ended up beheading a couple of them )
I let the enemies siege at their will, I never siege anything before smashing their strongest force first
on light infantry: it may appear weak at start but if you use it per its role you 'll be pleasantly surprised
advanced tip: follow the battles that AI does, especially the bigger ones
premise: it really depends on which character you play as
aside from that, I will take the absolutist approach on LAND warfare, and here it is.................................
the most powerful things are orders and mercs, you need to have money but it's worth it
in my experience, getting strong militarily involves planning way ahead of times, my style is usually this: stay on the hystorical pathway as much as possible, try to reach the hystorical goals of one specific nation and move from that on
tips, in short:
1 always plan
2 always consider the worst case scenario
that is the basis
technicalities:
1 enforce balanced laws
2 keep your vassals happy or kick em out
3 consider your personal retinue first and foremost
4 direct your tech advancements
5 invest to improve your structures
now on the warfare itself:
supposing you know how to pick your battle leaders, I focus on heavy infantry as the centre of my formation, you will find they last longer even when pressured, allowing you to make adjustements
when I call to arms, I raise my loyalist first and it may be enough, if not I resort to call in the other vassals but always try to minimize the penalties ( I ended up beheading a couple of them )
I let the enemies siege at their will, I never siege anything before smashing their strongest force first
on light infantry: it may appear weak at start but if you use it per its role you 'll be pleasantly surprised
advanced tip: follow the battles that AI does, especially the bigger ones
Thank you for taking your time to post such a detailed response, this is really well-written and helpful.
What character do you enjoy playing as the most?
As for my experience wit HOI4, it's pretty great. I'm not a big fan of the naval combat and how certain nations declare war on you too quickly, but everything else is nice. I like how you can form coups in other countries and eventually puppet them. All of the country-exclusive events make trying different ones more interesting.
What character do you enjoy playing as the most?
As for my experience wit HOI4, it's pretty great. I'm not a big fan of the naval combat and how certain nations declare war on you too quickly, but everything else is nice. I like how you can form coups in other countries and eventually puppet them. All of the country-exclusive events make trying different ones more interesting.
Minjaze said:
finally found some passionate stratgamer
do not thank me, I am truly passionist in this stuff
I started in ck2 with some count on some island LOL, got wrecked by Jihad
The best game I had with Norway, the 1066 ruler ( yes you start easy but try to mess with the british isles... ), ended up forming the empire of norway plus marking half of france with my dinasty shield
Last game I tried Georgian ruler, very difficult thing
( I didn't buy the charlemagne dlc )
about hoi: in 3 it's difficult to golpe around
naval warfare I learned it as Italy: aeronaval warfare is superfun ( I took a twist on it )
probably the best country to master it with is Japan
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@gstvtrp I held you as hostage
@Juxtaposition6 if you like, vote
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@Juxtaposition6 if you like, vote
nausea said:
What are my options lol
Juxtaposition6 said:
post n 48
Australia seems interestingnausea said:
if nobody else votes, australia will beJuxtaposition6 said:
AUSTRALIA is coming
AXIS AUSTRALIA
sadly this is the only decent img I found to recall geosituation
Now, my idea was to join the axis at the RIGHT time and smash the british and all their minions in the area. Australia have interesting potential. The continent is well developed in the south and east with good infra and ports, the rest is almost impracticable terrain\poorly developed, with the exception of a good port in the north.
Joining axis means I will be heavily dependant on these guys
usually they have a good headstart, the more they manage to keep the USA counterattack at bay the more I can mantain the initiative in my area of interest
AUS has enough IC and research to allow me to develop and build much more than Finland. I will obviously get JAP licenses.
My plan is to create amphibious forces + some sf + SOME navy for defense\escort purposes.
The rationale of this is : the geosituation of the area comprises islands, jungle terrain, generally poor infra and especially miles and miles of ocean to be covered by command radius.
Obviously some infra improvements shall be done, especially to link better the northern port to my main supply depots ( capital and big cities\ports ) and to enhance coastal infrastructures plus I need some radar stations to spot in time hostile navy.
tbc
sadly this is the only decent img I found to recall geosituation
Now, my idea was to join the axis at the RIGHT time and smash the british and all their minions in the area. Australia have interesting potential. The continent is well developed in the south and east with good infra and ports, the rest is almost impracticable terrain\poorly developed, with the exception of a good port in the north.
Joining axis means I will be heavily dependant on these guys
usually they have a good headstart, the more they manage to keep the USA counterattack at bay the more I can mantain the initiative in my area of interest
AUS has enough IC and research to allow me to develop and build much more than Finland. I will obviously get JAP licenses.
My plan is to create amphibious forces + some sf + SOME navy for defense\escort purposes.
The rationale of this is : the geosituation of the area comprises islands, jungle terrain, generally poor infra and especially miles and miles of ocean to be covered by command radius.
Obviously some infra improvements shall be done, especially to link better the northern port to my main supply depots ( capital and big cities\ports ) and to enhance coastal infrastructures plus I need some radar stations to spot in time hostile navy.
tbc
Beheading wifes that cucked me in ck2 is my favorite cope
Nothing like playing as the Incas and keeping America as mine with EU4(Meiou and taxes mod is great, is like a new game)
Victoria II was GOAT, one of the best games i played, too bad is too old and too broken now
HOI 4 is meh rigth now, too bad i can't play it since the jews of paradox decided to upload the game to 64 bits.
Stellaris is good, it lack content via expansions as it's very empty in some parts of the mid-game
Nothing like playing as the Incas and keeping America as mine with EU4(Meiou and taxes mod is great, is like a new game)
Victoria II was GOAT, one of the best games i played, too bad is too old and too broken now
HOI 4 is meh rigth now, too bad i can't play it since the jews of paradox decided to upload the game to 64 bits.
Stellaris is good, it lack content via expansions as it's very empty in some parts of the mid-game
Victoria 2 PDM vs HPM, thoughts?
lucky I found this video
[video=youtube]http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBjXVn6zZmI[/video]
refer to the video because there are no good images on google about this
Now on.
My first moves are align to axis, start the practical with infra, reorganize the OOB.
During the game as time passes , new leaders will pop up both politic and military, I shall maximize on these aspects.
1936 will be dedicated to improve my mainland. My research will go into ( just e.g. image )
infantry development, a bit of agriculture, radar stations, sf equipment and the usual necessities
why agriculture? because I need to pump up my manpower, there is lot of lands to occupy ahead...( also in the eventuality I need to defend my mainland )
the rest will be licensed from JAP, mainly, but I may opt to create my own special forces
the infra project will cover full coverage along the coast from adelaide to cairns
the perth region isn't useful for my plans
the supercritical darwin port will be improved but supplied via sea, not land
My area of interest goes from new zealand to phippines, maybe , if things go very well, I will join JAP in asian continent. I do not plan to directly attack USA territories, I have no chances to survive their navy anyway. My plan is more modest, even.
tbc
ooooooooooh meiou ))))))
vic 2 isn't broken cmon man, superfun and interesting, also isn't so old
[video=youtube]http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBjXVn6zZmI[/video]
refer to the video because there are no good images on google about this
Now on.
My first moves are align to axis, start the practical with infra, reorganize the OOB.
During the game as time passes , new leaders will pop up both politic and military, I shall maximize on these aspects.
1936 will be dedicated to improve my mainland. My research will go into ( just e.g. image )
infantry development, a bit of agriculture, radar stations, sf equipment and the usual necessities
why agriculture? because I need to pump up my manpower, there is lot of lands to occupy ahead...( also in the eventuality I need to defend my mainland )
the rest will be licensed from JAP, mainly, but I may opt to create my own special forces
the infra project will cover full coverage along the coast from adelaide to cairns
the perth region isn't useful for my plans
the supercritical darwin port will be improved but supplied via sea, not land
My area of interest goes from new zealand to phippines, maybe , if things go very well, I will join JAP in asian continent. I do not plan to directly attack USA territories, I have no chances to survive their navy anyway. My plan is more modest, even.
tbc
elabJovanD said:
Ub2w said:
ooooooooooh meiou ))))))
vic 2 isn't broken cmon man, superfun and interesting, also isn't so old
loled hard thxUb2w said:
@PM_ME_STRIPPERS
why?Ub2w said:
Lack espionagenausea said:
Shitty political system(Irrealistic, using mana to appoint officers/ministers, Hoi3 do it better)
Retarded economics
Retarded IA
Linear tehnological advances, again hoi 3 do it better.
And principaly, i can't play it since the PDX put minimum requisites to 64 bits.
how's the military like? especially OOB management and battles. Also, what about techs? They pretty much changed tech-mechanism from hoi3Ub2w said:
Battles are fine, one of the strong points of the game, with OOB management you refer to the planning? yea it's partly good but the IA is still retarded to do it rigth tbh.nausea said:
Techs are lineal and boring. not diverse and fun like hoi3
differences with hoi3 battles?Ub2w said:
They are more complex, depending more on things like terrain, supply's, general hability, morality, and tactics.nausea said:
Too bad the general system is also shit.
has the degree of control of the player been nerfed?Ub2w said:
More that nerfed, i got deleted, the game was simplified as fucknausea said:
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKUb2w said:
should I give it a chance anyway?
Yeah why not, Paradox have the habit that you have to wait one entire year after the release to get the REAL game via patches and dlcs.nausea said:
supertrue, indeed I shall wait until at least the last dlcUb2w said:
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Woow amzing stregties and tac tics
bleahSeifEsteem said:
let's go on with aus
ATTACKING NEW ZEALAND
those bastards are aligning themselves to allies, they shall pay for this
also : being at war grants me the ability to enact better laws, gain practice and get exp for my military apparatus; I also will get a percentage of their resources ( it's not much in absolute but for australia every buff is good )
hello bastards
a more detailed img
key targets here are : auckland, gisborne and wellington ; then will be christchurch and dunedin ( because they won't surrender otherwise )
reference
now, the main problem for me here are the mountainous regions, my troops aren't equipped for that, so I anticipate some degree of delay and possibly an alt to my advance
During the course of 1937 I have built my NZ invasion force : transports, basic infantry, some ART. No licenses. This setup may be enough, but I decided to create and develop my own marines, I want to use at least 1 division of them in NZ , mainly in order to 1) have some sf ready for whatever issue may arise, 2) create my own elites ( it's something I always do in such games ).
Dealing with NZ as first target is obviously wise thing to do at theatrical level.
While neutrality is going down, I unleash my intelligence on them. I will most probably caught them unmobilized, but I cannot exploit this for my forces aren't capable of such thing, I will just give em a good wake up call.
Auckland region is where I will attack.
tbc
ATTACKING NEW ZEALAND
those bastards are aligning themselves to allies, they shall pay for this
also : being at war grants me the ability to enact better laws, gain practice and get exp for my military apparatus; I also will get a percentage of their resources ( it's not much in absolute but for australia every buff is good )
hello bastards
a more detailed img
key targets here are : auckland, gisborne and wellington ; then will be christchurch and dunedin ( because they won't surrender otherwise )
reference
now, the main problem for me here are the mountainous regions, my troops aren't equipped for that, so I anticipate some degree of delay and possibly an alt to my advance
During the course of 1937 I have built my NZ invasion force : transports, basic infantry, some ART. No licenses. This setup may be enough, but I decided to create and develop my own marines, I want to use at least 1 division of them in NZ , mainly in order to 1) have some sf ready for whatever issue may arise, 2) create my own elites ( it's something I always do in such games ).
Dealing with NZ as first target is obviously wise thing to do at theatrical level.
While neutrality is going down, I unleash my intelligence on them. I will most probably caught them unmobilized, but I cannot exploit this for my forces aren't capable of such thing, I will just give em a good wake up call.
Auckland region is where I will attack.
tbc
Plan on puppeting or annexing the Kiwis?
good question ( did\do you play it? )InebriatedIrish said:
take in mind this is AAR, so I have already done it ...
the plan is to annex
ok let's move on
The general plan is this : attack NZ before they join the allies but not too early in the timeline; conclude NZ thing before targeting other things.
Now, I know for a fact that no matter how much you think you can smash an inferior enemy, the unpredictability of the chain of events MAY fuck things up badly. My major concern in this specific case is : mountains. This may very well create hellish chokepoints I am not equipped to deal with properly. I make somewhat of a gamble here, indeed. I may detail deeper this stuff if someone wants to know.
I get my first marines ready, good accomplishment.
It's early 1938. I must complete NZ invasion before things get real up north.
AUCKLAND
Nice port, terrain is good, wheater too. Intel reports enemy HQ's clearly, it seems various divisions the enemy has stationed there.
I mobilise. Enemy does not in time. It does too late.
Invasion force strikes the port directly, plus landings around. Obviously the portstrike isn't easy but it goes well enough. Enemy starts retreating south en masse. The attack reveals fully the enemy local forces : I smell bad times ahead for me. They are stronger than I expected and are doing good strategy. AI is good in the game ( except for the bug I mentioned before ).
The timing of my attacks gets me fruits : the city is conquered and the surrounding beachheads went well. I wait for the port repair to complete and set up the supply line via sea, directly to auckland. Meanwhile enemy is reaping the fruits of its mobilization and presidiate the south. They, as expected, have the upper hand in those fucking mountains.
I take my time to let the supply flow reach its maximum and to understand how many troops I can sustain there. It seems enough.
but this thing will soon start to create headaches
also, hmmmmmmmmmm strange things are happening in spain
The general plan is this : attack NZ before they join the allies but not too early in the timeline; conclude NZ thing before targeting other things.
Now, I know for a fact that no matter how much you think you can smash an inferior enemy, the unpredictability of the chain of events MAY fuck things up badly. My major concern in this specific case is : mountains. This may very well create hellish chokepoints I am not equipped to deal with properly. I make somewhat of a gamble here, indeed. I may detail deeper this stuff if someone wants to know.
I get my first marines ready, good accomplishment.
It's early 1938. I must complete NZ invasion before things get real up north.
AUCKLAND
Nice port, terrain is good, wheater too. Intel reports enemy HQ's clearly, it seems various divisions the enemy has stationed there.
I mobilise. Enemy does not in time. It does too late.
Invasion force strikes the port directly, plus landings around. Obviously the portstrike isn't easy but it goes well enough. Enemy starts retreating south en masse. The attack reveals fully the enemy local forces : I smell bad times ahead for me. They are stronger than I expected and are doing good strategy. AI is good in the game ( except for the bug I mentioned before ).
The timing of my attacks gets me fruits : the city is conquered and the surrounding beachheads went well. I wait for the port repair to complete and set up the supply line via sea, directly to auckland. Meanwhile enemy is reaping the fruits of its mobilization and presidiate the south. They, as expected, have the upper hand in those fucking mountains.
I take my time to let the supply flow reach its maximum and to understand how many troops I can sustain there. It seems enough.
but this thing will soon start to create headaches
also, hmmmmmmmmmm strange things are happening in spain
S
nausea said:ok let's move on
The general plan is this : attack NZ before they join the allies but not too early in the timeline; conclude NZ thing before targeting other things.
Now, I know for a fact that no matter how much you think you can smash an inferior enemy, the unpredictability of the chain of events MAY fuck things up badly. My major concern in this specific case is : mountains. This may very well create hellish chokepoints I am not equipped to deal with properly. I make somewhat of a gamble here, indeed. I may detail deeper this stuff if someone wants to know.
I get my first marines ready, good accomplishment.
It's early 1938. I must complete NZ invasion before things get real up north.
AUCKLAND
Nice port, terrain is good, wheater too. Intel reports enemy HQ's clearly, it seems various divisions the enemy has stationed there.
I mobilise. Enemy does not in time. It does too late.
Invasion force strikes the port directly, plus landings around. Obviously the portstrike isn't easy but it goes well enough. Enemy starts retreating south en masse. The attack reveals fully the enemy local forces : I smell bad times ahead for me. They are stronger than I expected and are doing good strategy. AI is good in the game ( except for the bug I mentioned before ).
The timing of my attacks gets me fruits : the city is conquered and the surrounding beachheads went well. I wait for the port repair to complete and set up the supply line via sea, directly to auckland. Meanwhile enemy is reaping the fruits of its mobilization and presidiate the south. They, as expected, have the upper hand in those fucking mountains.
I take my time to let the supply flow reach its maximum and to understand how many troops I can sustain there. It seems enough.
but this thing will soon start to create headaches
also, hmmmmmmmmmm strange things are happening in spain
tbh even in this game ur an incel due to ur failed battle plans
elab, pleaseSeifEsteem said:
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nausea said:
ur desert storm knock off blew up the pyramids of the twin towers
interestingSeifEsteem said:
A noi!
Ah, but I don't have alpins........nor mountaineers, fuck
Like it.
Now, I can start my advance south. ( IN REAL LIFE HAPPENED !!!!!!! FUCKMYLIFEFUCK )
Hmm, ok. No, no it's not ok at all eh.
Continuation.
Obviously I put my MP brigades to presidiate the city, but no garrison because NZ cannot attack it and the chances of insurrections are superlow.
Now, the main issue are the mountainous regions presided by the enemy. They created some sort of front that shields gisborne and wellington. NZ army is good enough to hold those positions, they also have mountain troops. Bad for me. I start some exchange to test the field, mainly to understand the efficacy of my poor ART.
No good news as time passes by. The more time passes the more the enemy gets dug in bonus. My artillery is crap, as I suspected.
I think for a bit about some landing manouver to try to caught them by surprise from the rear, but it's too risky all considered. Another option could have been to focus on gisborne, attacking from sea and\or encircling but I do not have enough suitable forces for that. Same goes for wellington.
What to do? I must do something to break the mountainous frontline otherwise is stagnation. I can take my time but not too much.
tbc
will continue this eh
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