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Serious Owning a car in Britain: the explicit and implicit private costs

Redbeard7

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Assuming you buy outright rather than take out a more expensive loan:

Entry costs:

Driving lessons and test/tests

Car price

Registration

Ongoing costs:

Fuel

Insurance

Vehicle excise duty

MOT

Servicing, repairs and enhancements

Cleaning and upkeep

Depreciation

Parking costs

Tolls and congestion charges

Fines, penalties and legal risks:

Parking fines

Speeding tickets

Red light violations

Drink/drug driving charges

Punitive driving courses

Accident liability

Theft or confiscation

Arrest/imprisonment

The true cost here can't be measured purely financially but also in time, energy, freedom, cognitive load and boredom or stress, as well as the personal risk of injury or death. Indeed, there is stress even if certain negative outcomes don't come to pass as there is always a risk of malfunction, fines, damage, theft, crash etc., as well as the loss of money, time and energy in trying to insure against them.

Car ownership is thus more a mark of slavery than freedom, especially in a world of planned obsolescence, increasing congestion, regulation/bureaucracy, surveillance, taxation, theft and lower speed limits.

However, having a driving licence increases your independence, status, confidence, competence, financial and social opportunities, so it's highly beneficial.

If necessary and possible, borrow a car. Otherwise, use your feet, a bike or bus.
 
I walk everywhere.
 
According to ChatGpt the costs of buying and owning an average car in the first year for the average person are £29,000, in the second year they are £6000. This means that in general, wage slavery is a prerequisite for owning a car.
 
Another driver licence pill yet again.
 
If you don't need a car, avoid having one. The expenses add up so much.
 
According to ChatGpt the costs of buying and owning an average car in the first year for the average person are £29,000, in the second year they are £6000. This means that in general, wage slavery is a prerequisite for owning a car.
How old are you?
 
Everything is overpriced/ taxed to shit, I just walk or take the bus if im forced to go somewhere
 
Everything is overpriced/ taxed to shit, I just walk or take the bus if im forced to go somewhere
Based, me too. You can also get a free bus pass if you're non-neurotypical in Britain.
 
Another driver licence pill yet again.
If you're unable to learn how to drive, normies think you're probably useless in practical terms. It's therefore an instant disqualifier for most men, or not far off.
 
Getting a car over 30 years old is the thing. You get a car which is cheap, doesn't look like a soyjak, doesn't contain spyware, is easier to repair and you own it. Your car makes banks, government and fake environment conscious people to seethe.

Normies have some kind of a peer pressure to buy as new car as they could get a loan for it.
 
It’s not that bad. Yeah the expenses can add up but at least I’m not financing my car and it’s not new either. I pay off the road tax and monthly insurance, it’s not a huge chunk. It beats having to take the train and buses everywhere in shitty weather. It’s well worth it for me. I’ll never cope by claiming that walking and taking public transport is any better. Fuck cycling too.
 
It’s not that bad. Yeah the expenses can add up but at least I’m not financing my car and it’s not new either. I pay off the road tax and monthly insurance, it’s not a huge chunk. It beats having to take the train and buses everywhere in shitty weather. It’s well worth it for me. I’ll never cope by claiming that walking and taking public transport is any better. Fuck cycling too.
It's not cope. I live in the city and have no need for a car. Even if I lived at my family home in a rural area I could still easily bus in. I'm applying for a free bus pass, which I'll soon get.

Do you have a job? Because for most, having a car requires having a job:


View: https://www.tumblr.com/batmancomicanalysis/769867576975212544/10-advantages-of-being-a-western-neet
 
It's not cope. I live in the city and have no need for a car. Even if I lived at my family home in a rural area I could still easily bus in. I'm applying for a free bus pass, which I'll soon get.

Do you have a job? Because for most, having a car requires having a job:


View: https://www.tumblr.com/batmancomicanalysis/769867576975212544/10-advantages-of-being-a-western-neet

That’s a fair point. See, I used to live in the city and didn’t have my license then but I still wanted it. I wasn’t working then, so I couldn’t fund the expenses. It’s only until I moved further away that really gave me the push to get my license and I haven’t looked back since. Honestly, buses and trains are annoying, even in the city. I’d rather have my own space, even if it means I’ll be sitting longer in traffic. I do work and I still drive to the city sometimes, that’s when I’m careful about all the speed cams etc. I’m genuinely quite relaxed in traffic, doesn’t bother me as much as other people.

Also if I could get away with being a NEET, I would.
 
That’s a fair point. See, I used to live in the city and didn’t have my license then but I still wanted it. I wasn’t working then, so I couldn’t fund the expenses. It’s only until I moved further away that really gave me the push to get my license and I haven’t looked back since. Honestly, buses and trains are annoying, even in the city. I’d rather have my own space, even if it means I’ll be sitting longer in traffic. I do work and I still drive to the city sometimes, that’s when I’m careful about all the speed cams etc. I’m genuinely quite relaxed in traffic, doesn’t bother me as much as other people.

Also if I could get away with being a NEET, I would.
Fair enough. I've failed my driving test twice, 6-7 years ago now but I'll be going for it again soon. The ability to drive is an important skill and cars can certainly be useful but the costs of ownership are generally overlooked and they are significant.
 
Fair enough. I've failed my driving test twice, 6-7 years ago now but I'll be going for it again soon. The ability to drive is an important skill and cars can certainly be useful but the costs of ownership are generally overlooked and they are significant.
I failed twice as well funnily enough. Looking back, I never thought I’d be driving, it still feels surreal at times. Definitely go for it again man. At least get your license for now, the car and everything can wait.
 
Owning and driving cars is just annoying
 
Need a boat to escape England bro...
 

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