Actually water isn't wet whatever it touches is
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maybe because she feels like kissing later? that isn't proof they don't like their normie boyfriends. i've seen passionate kissing among them constantly
Maybe if it's a normie male with a 50yr old landwhale.
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cope. most normies in college have great sex lives. i'm sorry but you and i are a small tiny minority
We deserve minority rights and free facial surgery.
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we're still a minority
More so than fat black femoids so they need to stop complaining when they don't suffer nearly as much as we do.
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you're more likely to meet black landwhales than meet us
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one third of men is a tiny minority?
And they have better paying jobs and better reproductive success just for having holes.
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that's men who haven't fucked in a year, not percentage of virgins.
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i'm pretty sure the amount of men who haven't had sex past 18 was 27%, and that was from like age 18 to 30. sure, a minority had sex during their teens, but there are plenty of dudes getting NOTHING
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they had teen love. they're fakecels
80/20 is true on dating apps but NT men who are average/above average do quite well with foids. Its cope to think that youre either an incel or a chad.
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small amount of those dudes did. very small amount
never said otherwise. you are misinterpreting my post
" Women find the vast majority of men to be ugly
If you're in the minority of men they find attractive, they will approach you
therefore, only the ugly can be incel "
You say only ugly guys can be incels. And the vast majority of men are found to be ugly by foids. This equates to majority of men are incels which is simply not true.
If foids find the vast majority ugly, the guy in the 50th percentile of looks would be incel. In reality, the average guy (if NT) is far from being incel.
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see, this is where you are wrong.
only ugly guys CAN be incels, that does not mean they all are.
What do you mean by "can be" ? Are you saying something like being ugly is a necessary requirement for inceldom, but not sufficient?
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in order to be an incel, you can't be having sex, of course. but if you're good looking, and women are approaching you, not having sex makes you volcel.
being ugly and not having sex = incel
Ok i think get it. Youre saying being ugly has to be the core feature of inceldom since if youre good looking, you have potential to get sex (even if you dont use that potential).
But that definition isnt helpful for practical purposes. Every other guy i see in curryland is quite ugly and yet not incel. So what would you say about ugly betabuxxers who would be incel if they chose not to betabux? Theyve had sex with foids, but only because of their ability to provide resources. Foids still dont find their genetics attractive.
Sex on a weekly or monthly basis (per statistics on average while in a relationship) is a large step up from 0 sex.
What people misunderstand here is that it's harder to get a girlfriend as a normie than some people make it out to be. Not that it isn't worth it.
Depends on the cost and the foid involved. Id say wageslaving for starfish sex from a landwhale foid is worse than being an incel. Id never touch a landwhale with a 100 foot pole.
You can be ugly in the eyes of women for things other than looks.
Like what?
for most of history, most men were incels. it's only with monogamous, christian society that that changed to an assortive mating situation. but that's over now. we're back to polygamy land where 20% of the chads have 80% of the stacys, and all the primitive problems that polygamy brings.
Unless you're tall and large-framed and/or have rejected them in the past landwhale talk is a cope.
They are only numerous in America and far less so among the youth compared to older women. So in any case you'd just need to change locations.
The average guy on dating apps cant expect better than landwhales. I agree that they do get better in betabuxx type arrangements but whether they are objectively better off than an incel depends on the cost they incur via the arrangement and the foid involved.
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So? I’m sure I can find many examples of beckys loving their own normie boyfriend. You can’t take rare examples and call it the norm.
Maybe for a casual fuck. I don't really think true landwhales are interested in scrawny or skinny fat men. More like ugly girls and our looksmatches they succeed with.
Online dating in general is a different story well at least when it comes to Tinder. Guys that are above-average but not by much are able to get >=4s where I live while young so it's not really betabuxxing. More so "jestering" if you want to find a term for it.
Being shy, socially awkward, non neurotypical. These can be forgiven but only if you’re well above average looks wise. If you’re an average looking guy with the aforementioned qualities getting laid is almost impossible.
Dude you're coping extremely hard
Incel = Not being able to get sex based on mutual physical attraction
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By that definition, 80% of guys would be incel.
I'm ugly
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not im not coping. my view is pessimistic and i beleive we're a tiny tiny minority while normies have happy sex lives. that isn't coping. coping means to do what makes you feel better how does what i say make me feel better. the idea that normies have awful sex lives and only get landwhales is supposed to be lifefuel
I don't see normies aka average looking males with girlfriends dude, let alone having sex regularly
and data/science back up this
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data does NOT backs it up
i see normies with beckys all day. every day. kissing hugging passionately. i'm sure if i recorded their life 24/7 id see them fucking too
you just don't go out much
also i found studies that some women go for normies anyways
this isn't cherrypicking but beckys do like normies. stacys don't but beckys do
sorry but you and i are a tiny tiny minority. normies aren't missing out at all
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I’m serious. This isn’t coping because coping means to do what makes you feel better aka LifeFuel. How is the idea that normies have happy sex lives supposed to make us feel better about being virgins? The idea they have only get awkward pity sex from landwhales is cope AKA LifeFuel
damn my head hurts, don't tell me you're being serious
normies have happy sex lives. Studies show that women sometimes go for normies. Deal with it. You are a rare minority while almost everyone has happy sex lives the only foids who reject normies are stacies
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He is right. You think EVERY SINGLE woman is attracted to ONE particular chad?
damn my head hurts, don't tell me you're being serious
They like chad in different flavors. Some like pretty boys like dicaprio while others prefer hyper masculine like jason momoa and some like thugmaxxers with tattoos like jeremy meeks
nah
there's no such thing as a "type", females use this as a excuse to reject beta unattractive males
it doesn't apply to attractive people either, neither to anyone, it doesn't exist, just a lie
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cope
holy shit, a based greycel
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