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I know I'm one of the oldest people here at 49. Pretty sure I've seen one or two guys in their 50s posting too. There are certainly others in their 40s here. Just wondering what other people's experiences are at having made it this far. The youngsters (98% of the forum at least) seem to view 30 as impossibly ancient and no doubt it does seem forever away when you're struggling with inceldom in your youth and early adulthood.

I personally have found life generally much easier as an oldie than I did when I was young. These days you can easily pretend to people who don't know you well that you were once married, maybe even have kids, and as such you don't get treated like a complete freak. Foids also tend to be more friendly. They still see you as subhuman, but no longer as someone who might potentially want to have sex with them.

It's true to say that, with hindsight, a lot of the coldness and reluctance of females to interact with ugly/awkward guys comes down to them being scared you might ask them on a date and be sexually interested in them.
 
35 here. Can attest that mentally, hardships get easier to deal with as you get older. You also get more reasonable if you were an intellectual type from the start. The tradeoff is that nobody gets younger after 30, say hi to beer belly without beer, various medical conditions you have to contain for them not to grow into something nasty (so get used to everyday pills and all sorts of restrictions on activities), low stamina (say goodbye to 40+ hour long gaming marathons), allergies out of nowhere, and, worst of all, chronic fuckititis. You simply aren't getting impressed as you could be at 20, you don't get the same kick, everything starts to get more and more bland, characterless — while suffering is almost just as acute.
As for females being less hostile, it's only natural: males are most attractive starting at 25 and reaching the peak at 35-40, while females are at their prime at 15-20 and then on a steady decline until hitting the wall at 35-40.
 
Thirty-three here.
 
35 here. Can attest that mentally, hardships get easier to deal with as you get older. You also get more reasonable if you were an intellectual type from the start. The tradeoff is that nobody gets younger after 30, say hi to beer belly without beer, various medical conditions you have to contain for them not to grow into something nasty (so get used to everyday pills and all sorts of restrictions on activities), low stamina (say goodbye to 40+ hour long gaming marathons), allergies out of nowhere, and, worst of all, chronic fuckititis. You simply aren't getting impressed as you could be at 20, you don't get the same kick, everything starts to get more and more bland, characterless — while suffering is almost just as acute.
As for females being less hostile, it's only natural: males are most attractive starting at 25 and reaching the peak at 35-40, while females are at their prime at 15-20 and then on a steady decline until hitting the wall at 35-40.
sure about male prime being at 35-40?
 
I must have been lucky - I still weigh the same as I did when I was 18, though mostly due to the fact that I walk so much, usually in pursuit of assorted wildlife. And have had no significant physical health issues to this point.

Maybe a decade ago I began to think there might be light at the end of the tunnel when random women started to be more friendly towards me - before realising that this was simply because I was by that point outside of the 'threat zone'. This confirmed just how shallow women really are. They will literally treat you like shit for the sole crime of being unattractive whilst being within the age range that might reasonably want to date/have sex with them.
 
37. Please murder me.
 
28 I'm oldcell lite.

Trust me, 28 is young. Scary how fast the years slip by and as they do, you constantly look back and think how much more possibility there would be if only you were 12/16/21/25/30/35/40 again :feelsbadman: Yet at the time it seems so completely hopeless.
 
sure about male prime being at 35-40?
Quite. To clarify, I'm talking sexual marketplace value here, and I'm talking averages. Basically, if you're not a 9/10 chad, but also not a 1/10 doomed-from-birth incel, your median attractiveness peaks around 35.
 
37 here and I feel it gets more difficult as the yrs go by... The number of young couples enjoying the sex and passion that I deserve increases day by day:trepidation::trepidation::trepidation:
 
Quite. To clarify, I'm talking sexual marketplace value here, and I'm talking averages. Basically, if you're not a 9/10 chad, but also not a 1/10 doomed-from-birth incel, your median attractiveness peaks around 35.
Betabux value goes up that's about it.
 
47 here. It does get easier a bit as I age mainly because my sex drive is finally decreasing. I’ve also noticed that as I age, young women are more friendly to me than ever because I am not viewed as a threat anymore and I’m pretty good at putting on a polite act. Another change I am going through as I age is that I am becoming more vocel. I now have such a deep hatred of women that it would be impossible for me to ever have a normal relationship with one. This hatred began more than 45 years ago when the first woman in my life rejected me - hatred has consumed me at this point.
 
That's why I said I have to clarify it doesn't involve extreme ends of the spectrum. Just your average 6/10 men.
6/10 men spend their prime mid 20s years having sex. Not frequently like chad but the 4-5s they fuck are still more attractive than what they can get at the age of 35.

Oh the money cope is that it? You can attract young foids with your money? Too bad the average 6/10 male isn't rich and has usually settled by then or had a divorce.
 

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Are you a virgin?

I could lie. But I won't. No. But it's not as clear cut as you might think. I wasn't running about slaying at any point and have always been a shunned outsider. I tried one or two things as part of a gigacope exercise. What I will say is that good whores are worth their weight in gold but that kind of life wasn't for me.
 
47 here. It does get easier a bit as I age mainly because my sex drive is finally decreasing. I’ve also noticed that as I age, young women are more friendly to me than ever because I am not viewed as a threat anymore and I’m pretty good at putting on a polite act. Another change I am going through as I age is that I am becoming more vocel. I now have such a deep hatred of women that it would be impossible for me to ever have a normal relationship with one. This hatred began more than 45 years ago when the first woman in my life rejected me - hatred has consumed me at this point.
How much of incel ideology surprised you when you found it? How much did it differ from or change your beliefs you’d been holding for so long beforehand?
 
oldcel reporting in. im 31 but im in arguably the best shape of my life with almost visible abs. maybe its a cope but i blow my alcohol guzzling mid-20s self out of the water. i also lift more than i used to and im still very fast, agile, and sharp. i also make more money than i ever used to and have recently bought my own place. in a few years i could see myself being very financially stable and driving a bad ass sports car. maybe this is all cope as ill still be a lonelycel in the end, but its not all bad. there are some perks believe it or not.
 
Not frequently like chad but the 4-5s they fuck are still more attractive than what they can get at the age of 35.
Maybe it's different in your area, but here, a 6/10 ignored at 20-22 suddenly becomes fanciable at 35, although clearly not center of attention. However, girls displaying that interest usually split into two distinct groups: under 20 and over 30. They both aren't into it for the money, though, as far as I can see.
 
Maybe it's different in your area, but here, a 6/10 ignored at 20-22 suddenly becomes fanciable at 35, although clearly not center of attention. However, girls displaying that interest usually split into two distinct groups: under 20 and over 30. They both aren't into it for the money, though, as far as I can see.


men over 30 are dogshit to women no matter how much you have, lol
 
how do you relatives feel about you being an incel at 49?
 
oldcel reporting in. im 31 but im in arguably the best shape of my life with almost visible abs. maybe its a cope but i blow my alcohol guzzling mid-20s self out of the water. i also lift more than i used to and im still very fast, agile, and sharp. i also make more money than i ever used to and have recently bought my own place. in a few years i could see myself being very financially stable and driving a bad ass sports car. maybe this is all cope as ill still be a lonelycel in the end, but its not all bad. there are some perks believe it or not.

i used to play full court basketball twice a week with guys in their 40s and 50s who were tall and athletic

anyone who thinks your body declines at 30 is just an idiot or they have some genetic disorder like being prone to cancer, or worse, balding
 
how do you relatives feel about you being an incel at 49?

They don't know. But I'm not close to any of my family. I tell them what they want to hear and they just accept it. I will admit that I had no idea what an incel was until a few months ago, when I saw something on YouTube and from there I guess I dived down the rabbit hole and realised what had been going on all these years. I think I was blackpilled at a very early age. I knew as a child that most marriages were nothing to do with love and everything to do with appearing normal and a source of stability and comfort for the female half.
 
almost 30. I´m getting all my surgeries done this year so that I can look for a wife abroad when I turn 30. If that doesn´t work out I´ll definitely rope. It´s literally my last straw. I´ve tried everything else and there is nothing more I could try.
 
oldcel reporting in. im 31 but im in arguably the best shape of my life with almost visible abs. maybe its a cope but i blow my alcohol guzzling mid-20s self out of the water. i also lift more than i used to and im still very fast, agile, and sharp. i also make more money than i ever used to and have recently bought my own place. in a few years i could see myself being very financially stable and driving a bad ass sports car. maybe this is all cope as ill still be a lonelycel in the end, but its not all bad. there are some perks believe it or not.

Similar here. I smoked heavily and had spells of extremely excessive drinking until I was in my late 30s. I am definitely much fitter at nearly 50 than I was at 25. Seems ridiculous but it's true. I also found financial stability, something that would have seemed impossible in the 90s. I woke up one day and realized that chasing rainbows was pointless. I could either rope or go flat out to make life bearable and being a coward chose the latter option.
almost 30. I´m getting all my surgeries done this year so that I can look for a wife abroad when I turn 30. If that doesn´t work out I´ll definitely rope. It´s literally my last straw. I´ve tried everything else and there is nothing more I could try.

Good luck man. But I have to say, the people I know (that know I've never married or been in any kind of normal relationship) who envy me is amazing. A guy I grew up with and hadn't seen for 30 years had tears in his eyes when he told me he'd give anything to have never got involved with any of this three wives. He looked back at being single and having nothing to do with foids with huge nostalgic affection. That got me thinking. Having kind of fallen in love myself (with a whore) and having got mixed up in all sorts of complications...I do sort of see where he was coming from.
 
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Similar here. I smoked heavily and had spells of extremely excessive drinking until I was in my late 30s. I am definitely much fitter at nearly 50 than I was at 25. Seems ridiculous but it's true. I also found financial stability, something that would have seemed impossible in the 90s. I woke up one day and realized that chasing rainbows was pointless. I could either rope or go flat out to make life bearable and being a coward chose the latter option.


Good luck man. But I have to say, the people I know (that know I've never married or been in any kind of normal relationship) who envy me is amazing. A guy I grew up with and hadn't seen for 30 years had tears in his eyes when he told me he'd give anything to have never got involved with any of this three wives. He looked back at being single and having nothing to do with foids with huge nostalgic affection. That got me thinking. Having kind of fallen in love myself (with a whore) and having got mixed up in all sorts of complications...I do sort of see where he was coming from.

pretty much every old married guy says this
my own dad even told me being married was shitty and having kids isn't worth it

lol
 
anyone who thinks your body declines at 30 is just an idiot
Congratulations, you just dismissed a whole area of medical science.
Also, please consider the fine line between "your body declines at 30" and "decline normally starts at around 30". Hint: it's about the same as between "all 5/10 are chads" and "barring mental issues, 5/10 is where you start to have statistically higher chance to get laid". Oversimplification will be your undoing one of those days, even though it might feel so satisfying to do that to shittalk someone on the internet.
 
Congratulations, you just dismissed a whole area of medical science.
Also, please consider the fine line between "your body declines at 30" and "decline normally starts at around 30". Hint: it's about the same as between "all 5/10 are chads" and "barring mental issues, 5/10 is where you start to have statistically higher chance to get laid". Oversimplification will be your undoing one of those days, even though it might feel so satisfying to do that to shittalk someone on the internet.

where dat medical science dawg
 
Trust me, 28 is young. Scary how fast the years slip by and as they do, you constantly look back and think how much more possibility there would be if only you were 12/16/21/25/30/35/40 again :feelsbadman: Yet at the time it seems so completely hopeless.
I've never done this because the last thing I want to do is relive my teenage years with my face and frail body.

And I can concur that most men my age and even more older have envied my eternally single life. They're all obvious betabux situations with wives that openly treat them like shit, though.
 
Just turned 30 a few months ago.
 
>one day I will wake up and realize im an oldcel
:feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
Thirty-six.

I guess dealing with pain got easier. The monotony of life just kind of lets momentum carry me through each day.

Things just don't feel as potent as they used to. Think of how when you were 4 if you scabbed your knee you wailed about it, but conversely going to get ice-cream was like the greatest day in your life. In your twenties those things are not a big deal. In my thirties I have injuries where I have no idea what caused them, because I didn't even feel them happening.

My physical-libido seemed to peak at 15, and psychological-libido peaked at 28. I have a lot of bitterness inside, and after so much struggling I just want to finally get what I want out of life. I had no idea that so much effort could amount to so little. What I want now is every last bit of my hope to go away.

I think unfounded hope is a terrible curse, or at best a double-edged sword.
 
pretty much every old married guy says this
my own dad even told me being married was shitty and having kids isn't worth it

lol

Hahahahaha. Likewise.
I've never done this because the last thing I want to do is relive my teenage years with my face and frail body.

And I can concur that most men my age and even more older have envied my eternally single life. They're all obvious betabux situations with wives that openly treat them like shit, though.

There are so many cucks now, this is what saddens me. Guys just accepting the fact that they will be treated like something their wife stepped in and even making excuses for the fact that they get treated like shit. Yes, she does fuck her Chad gym trainer four times a week...but then I am allowed to come out of the cellar for a whole hour on Wednesdays. FFS :feelsgah: If nothing else, we least provide a source of entertainment for the likes of cucktears - how many Chads can say that?
>one day I will wake up and realize im an oldcel
:feelsrope::feelsrope:

More likely that one day you will sit with your moderately attractive wife laughing at the fact that as a teenager you genuinely believed you would turn out to be a sad old bastard like all the oldcels here tbh :feelsokman:
 


say hi to beer belly without beer,

various medical conditions you have to contain for them not to grow into something nasty

(so get used to everyday pills and all sorts of restrictions on activities),allergies out of nowhere,

"brah u hit 30 u get instant beer belly and gotta take everyday pills, here's some unrelated links that say people age which no one ever denied"

lel
 
30+ here, I see teencels and it's like "geez, if only they knew".
 
I personally have found life generally much easier as an oldie than I did when I was young. These days you can easily pretend to people who don't know you well that you were once married, maybe even have kids, and as such you don't get treated like a complete freak. Foids also tend to be more friendly. They still see you as subhuman, but no longer as someone who might potentially want to have sex with them.
you might like trying to fool people into your fake life but others dont. what happens when they find out?
 
I'm in my mid 30s and i'm in the exact same shape i was at 22. Same weight and body fat. Knees hurt a bit more for less exertion but that's no big deal.

Getting old is not so bad as long as you don't let yourself go bald.

Planning to start sugardaddying soon so i can bang some hot 18-25 year olds. Don't mind paying that way since it's legal.

In the future 70% of men will pay for sex or have none at all, so work hard and get a good degree/job if you want to be able to have the option.

My sexual function is the best it's been in my life due to other health issues i had when i was younger now resolving. Eg. Jerked off 3x on sunday. Never used to be able to do that.

It's unpleasant seeing your face melting and wrinkling but it's normal.

I eat healthy and i exercise. Always have. Eg. One veggie shake a day for the past 10 years. I have the most freedom I've ever had in my life. I'm pretty relaxed.
 
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you might like trying to fool people into your fake life but others dont. what happens when they find out?

Not a case of liking it. Just a case of getting by. I don't go into detail (of course). But now and then you'll get someone mention once being married and you're like 'I know, never again!' Kids, who'd have 'em. Not me, I'm a fucking subhuman but I won't say that out loud.
I'm in my mid 30s and i'm in the exact same shape i was at 22. Same weight and body fat. Knees hurt a bit more for less exertion but that's no big deal.

Getting old is not so bad as long as you don't let yourself go bald.

Planning to start sugardaddying soon so i can bang some hot 18-25 year olds. Don't mind paying that way since it's legal.

In the future 70% of men will pay for sex or have none at all, so work hard and get a good degree/job if you want to be able to have the option.

Virtually every male pays for sex, even if they don't acknowledge as much. The thing I liked when I was escortceling is that there's none of the bullshit. You're giving money to a quite attractive woman to suspend reality for a couple of hours. She's going to pretend she thinks you're hot stuff and you're going to pretend she's really into you. I met this one gal who I genuinely liked for her brutal honesty and we kind of got along well. Eventually I got addicted. She was like the foid equivalent of crystal meth :feelsmega: She convinced me that I was a mentalcel. Though, of course, such terminology wasn't something I would learn until years down the line.
 
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How much of incel ideology surprised you when you found it? How much did it differ from or change your beliefs you’d been holding for so long beforehand?

I’ve always known there’s something fundamentally wrong with me. I come to this group and everyone believes there is something wrong with women. If women don’t find me a suitable mate, no doubt it’s me, not them. Now, what’s unfair about this, is what it’s done to what I think about women. I have abject hatred for them-yet I’m the problem not them!

I have spent years in therapy pleading with therapists to help me find what’s wrong with me so I can try to fix it. Of course, everyone tells me there’s nothing wrong with me. Almost 50 years old and never had a girlfriend and there’s nothing wrong with me = WTF? Of course there’s something wrong with me, I just don’t know what it is.

At this point in my life I’m done trying to figure out what my problem is, done trying to fix what’s broken. I’m focusing on how to cope with loneliness and ostracism.

One thing is for sure, I’m going to see this life through to its natural end. It’s going to have to beat me to death because I’m not going to quit. Fuck you universe, you’re going to have to kill me to get rid of me.
 
I only have respect for incels that have more than 30 years
 
Oldcel here. Life sucks when you get older too. I don't think anything really changes except the things that bothered you bother you even more, but you learn to deal with them better.

Overall, you feel more depressed and more pressured because of your age but mentally and physically you will last longer than a femoid.
 
47 here. It does get easier a bit as I age mainly because my sex drive is finally decreasing. I’ve also noticed that as I age, young women are more friendly to me than ever because I am not viewed as a threat anymore and I’m pretty good at putting on a polite act. Another change I am going through as I age is that I am becoming more vocel. I now have such a deep hatred of women that it would be impossible for me to ever have a normal relationship with one. This hatred began more than 45 years ago when the first woman in my life rejected me - hatred has consumed me at this point.
Hold up, when you were 2 years old?
 
I'm not an oldcel but 49? Why don't you post a thread about your life story?

Edit: NVM, you're not a virgin. Unless you went to an escort then you are an escortcel and I'm still interested.
 
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Im 31 and while I am an oldcel I dont really give a shit enough to post my lifestory. It isn't anywhere near as tragic as one would think anyway.

My health sure as shit hasn't declined other than me becoming a fatass because I stopped exercising like 4 years ago.
 

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