[LifeFuel] Oldcel here. Life sort of gets easier.

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closing in on middle age here bubs. the pain never goes away completely but the older you get, the number you get. some people call this "wisdom" when it's really just conditioning from constant rejection and disappointment. if you have friends, you see them get married, betabuxx, henpecked by their fat wives, and ultimately raped by divorce. you tell yourself, oh, me being single and avoiding that is a good cope. I guess, but not really. The truth is the world is shitty, most people are unhappy, and we're at the bottom of the pecking order. shit does get to you less unless you're a complete psycho like that gold's shooter. the other thing is: no woman can really love you if you're not Chad. And even then, can you really say it's "love"? How can you ask for unconditional positive regard from anyone these days? You either cope or the rope I think. Having a dog helps.
 

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I'm glad to hear it. I feel like incels will be more resistant to loneliness in their middle age than to people who have been socializing their entire life.
 

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can you really say it's "love"? How can you ask for unconditional positive regard from anyone these days? You either cope or the rope I think. Having a dog helps.
foids can't love men, only lust, they never felt that feeling of wanting to protect something to a an adult male.
 

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I'm 30 which isn't really that much old but I can say one thing that definitely decreased for me was envying my same age peers.

With very, very rare exceptions all are incels, semi-incels or dating unattractive women.
 

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You think so? I'm 32 & closer to suicide than ever. Everything is hard & a waste of time, probably more to do with fucked thinking stemming from autism than inceldom tbf.
 

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I’m 24 and I’ve never been more depressed with life. Even in my teens when I was really down I still had some enjoyment and desire to be alive. That’s all gone now.
 

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You think so? I'm 32 & closer to suicide than ever. Everything is hard & a waste of time, probably more to do with fucked thinking stemming from autism than inceldom tbf.
30 was fucking terrible for me - constant suicide attempts, shock therapy, catatonic depression. My mind and body completely shut down. I'm talking closer to 35. If you can make it through the other side you might surprise yourself. I didn't think I was gonna survive.
 

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I'm 35 years old, I live alone, car, apartment, I make gym, no debt other than real estate financing, incel.

I am finally understanding that love is not necessary, sex is not necessary, and you can release dopamine by other means. because, in the end, it all comes down to releasing dopamine. sex and love are not precursors of dopamine.

my two brothers are badly married, and I do not envy them at all. and the funny thing is that neither was incel before getting married. and they would not be incels now, because there is a woman giving upon them. but since they are married, they are out of the game.
 

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I'm going to be 40 soon and still want to rope.

Antidepressants don't help.

This world is awful for us. I used to despise people like the Taliban who make their women cover up and don't want to educate them.

Now I think it's absolute genius. They should be celebrated, not exterminated..

Imagine if women had to cover up. That would wipe out the fashion, makeup, and essentially the advertising business.

This is a living Hell, no exaggeration.
 

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I'm 43, and life is ok.
All the money is mine, I don't have debts to anybody, I see my peers living with Ex-stacies that became fat and old or divorce-raped. I can go to any place I want without asking anybody.
I accepted inceldom. I know that I will never be loved, like I know that will never be able to fly. I was born ugly and short, and without wings.
 

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im 25 and every hour i think about roping even though im too much of a pussy to do it. i hate this existence as a subhuman.
 

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No it doesn't, it gets fucking worse as time goes by. Being in deep isolation for such a long time will do a number of your mental state.

At least when you were younger you could blue pill yourself into believing you had a great future a head. There's no future for a person who is already old. Your window of opportunity is closing in on you. The only thing an oldcel is looking forward to is death.
 

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I'm going to be 40 soon and still want to rope.

Antidepressants don't help.

This world is awful for us. I used to despise people like the Taliban who make their women cover up and don't want to educate them.

Now I think it's absolute genius. They should be celebrated, not exterminated..

Imagine if women had to cover up. That would wipe out the fashion, makeup, and essentially the advertising business.

This is a living Hell, no exaggeration.
The older you get the less you hate Islam and the more you hate Jews. Sometimes I hope that if I die I'll get reincarnated as a Muslim guy or a Han Chinese guy who gets to live in a culture with actual common sense regarding it's women.

Even though I know it's megacope, I sometimes dream of a time when white men can stand up for themselves and finally take vengeance upon the hell that their women sent them through and grow stronger because of it. Without the harsh cold, there would be no vikings. In that same vain, I hope that without this time of degeneracy, there would be no desire to control our women.
 

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No it doesn't, it gets fucking worse as time goes by. Being in deep isolation for such a long time will do a number of your mental state.

At least when you were younger you could blue pill yourself into believing you had a great future a head. There's no future for a person who is already old. Your window of opportunity is closing in on you. The only thing an oldcel is looking forward to is death.
When everyone gets older, they all eventually lose attractiveness. Maybe the mantra of “personality is everything” comes partly true when people get older and lose their attractiveness, and the chance for a relationship increases when attractiveness fades. At least I hope so.
 

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When everyone gets older, they all eventually lose attractiveness. Maybe the mantra of “personality is everything” comes partly true when people get older and lose their attractiveness, and the chance for a relationship increases when attractiveness fades. At least I hope so.
The problem is by the time you reach that age you will be disgusted with life beyond repair. There is no going back. You are a broken shell of your former self. Jaded by your life experiences. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
 

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I'm glad to hear it. I feel like incels will be more resistant to loneliness in their middle age than to people who have been socializing their entire life.
I’m 24 and I’ve never been more depressed with life. Even in my teens when I was really down I still had some enjoyment and desire to be alive. That’s all gone now.
antidepressants.


Jews Pills
 

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I'm just over a month away from 30 and I'm also a hair's breadth from just going volcel/MSTOW. I've been a first hand witness to so many dysfunctional relationships that I just think I'm too fucking far gone - the blackpill confirmed a lot of what I thought anyway. I'm not good looking enough to have a relationship that is more than a dressed up business transaction where I provide the security and she provides the coochie. I agree that the older you get, the number you get.

For me it has definitely become easier since my mid 20s, but there is always that background noise coming from society that you are a low status male - you are detritus.
 

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I'm going to be 40 soon and still want to rope.

Antidepressants don't help.

This world is awful for us. I used to despise people like the Taliban who make their women cover up and don't want to educate them.

Now I think it's absolute genius. They should be celebrated, not exterminated..

Imagine if women had to cover up. That would wipe out the fashion, makeup, and essentially the advertising business.

This is a living Hell, no exaggeration.
Islam has been light years ahead of everyone else when it comes to foids and the Black Pill.
 

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Islam was created by Jews.
Islam is something that the Jews were pivotal in creating (Muhammad, of course, was not spoken to by God about Abrahamic theology but rather Jews who lived on the Arabian Peninsula), but it came out of their control:


The Banu Qurayza were a Jewish tribe which lived in northern Arabia.

In 627, when the Quraysh and their allies besieged the city in the Battle of the Trench, the Qurayza initially tried to remain neutral but eventually entered into negotiations with the besieging army, violating the pact they had agreed to years earlier.[8] Subsequently, the tribe was charged with treason and besieged by the Muslims commanded by Muhammad.[9][10]The Banu Qurayza eventually surrendered and their men were beheaded.
This is very similar to how the Jews were pivotal to the Bolshevik rise to power, only for Stalin to purge them after perceiving disloyalty.
 
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I'm 43, and life is ok.
All the money is mine, I don't have debts to anybody, I see my peers living with Ex-stacies that became fat and old or divorce-raped. I can go to any place I want without asking anybody.
I accepted inceldom. I know that I will never be loved, like I know that will never be able to fly. I was born ugly and short, and without wings.
 

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I used to cope with escorts, now I come with my sex doll. Much better than an escort tbh tbh tbh ngl
 

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Some people have managed to convince themselves that the vast majority of people are unhappy or being cucked, I mean that's a good cope if you can believe it I guess.

My point of view is its better to experience the highs and the lows. It's like those heart rate monitors in hospital, normal people are constantly going up and down, whereas Incels, we are just flatlining for life. And some people have convinced themselves that's better... Ok I guess.
 

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Life doesn't get better you just learn to accept reality better and get on with what you want to do within your control and at least being single you have more control. However, I would rather have had children than be like this tbh
 

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I find it to be worse as I get older because my beliefs in body transplants and some artificial means of eternal life/simulation are gone. It never began for me, for you, and for most guys yet we have to endure knowing this and being without.
 

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Sounds like cope but its good if you feel good yourself
 

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Good cope tbh, also rabbits are a good cope.
I miss my rabbit! He was fantastic but a snow bunny in the south..it wasn't meant to be..

Miss u Kobe..rip
It def gets easier to manage from your teens/early 20s when having a boner for 1/2 the day is a constant reminder that you are missing out..

I think guys that age should have subsidised escorts for releif..it's horrible to be that wound up and not have an outlet..
 
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I’m nearing in on 40. Does it get easier? Ehh, yes and no. My loneliness is crushing, nauseating, constant, and terrifying. However, your libido does weaken as you age. I care much less about sex, I really just want a companion to avoid going insane.

However, most men I know have been fucked over by women big time. Either financially or emotionally, some of them are possibly in a worse state than my incel self. Divorceraped fathers who have literally no money and get to see their kids twice a month, pussywhipped and henpecked cucks who basically live to serve their obese landwhale wives with quarterly starfish sex as their reward...

It’s chad or death.
 

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Some people have managed to convince themselves that the vast majority of people are unhappy or being cucked, I mean that's a good cope if you can believe it I guess.
I'm not saying the entirety of the population, but the majority. If you're Chad or a 9/10 woman you're probably gonna have a pretty easy life with constant dopamine fixes, new experiences, and constant validation. Truly easy-mode.

For the rest of us, I think normies start to slow down in their thirties, then by their forties realize they trapped themselves with a family that hates them, a job they hate and can't leave, or inevitable divorce rape. Women have it a bit easier cause then they can cougar but most are too lazy and entitled to lose the weight, and even then their cunt stinks and has been stretched like the grand canyon. Not that she won't get matches on tinder, but I'd like to think the fact she's aging eats at her.

The good (if you can call it good) is as a low value man your baseline is depressed or near-depression. Because of this, you really can't get any more disappointed by how cruel the world can be. Constant rejection, ridicule, and negative self talk sort of breaks you down completely and you can start from scratch. Kind of similar to Ewan Cameron's MK Ultra stuff or neitzsche's Übermensch.

You really gotta break through to the other side and it's hard for me to articulate. It doesn't get "better", you're able to cope easier and survive. Comes with age I guess.
 

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I'm not saying the entirety of the population, but the majority. If you're Chad or a 9/10 woman you're probably gonna have a pretty easy life with constant dopamine fixes, new experiences, and constant validation. Truly easy-mode.

For the rest of us, I think normies start to slow down in their thirties, then by their forties realize they trapped themselves with a family that hates them, a job they hate and can't leave, or inevitable divorce rape. Women have it a bit easier cause then they can cougar but most are too lazy and entitled to lose the weight, and even then their cunt stinks and has been stretched like the grand canyon. Not that she won't get matches on tinder, but I'd like to think the fact she's aging eats at her.

The good (if you can call it good) is as a low value man your baseline is depressed or near-depression. Because of this, you really can't get any more disappointed by how cruel the world can be. Constant rejection, ridicule, and negative self talk sort of breaks you down completely and you can start from scratch. Kind of similar to Ewan Cameron's MK Ultra stuff or neitzsche's Übermensch.

You really gotta break through to the other side and it's hard for me to articulate. It doesn't get "better", you're able to cope easier and survive. Comes with age I guess.
I'm in my early 30s so I know what you are trying to say but we have two differing views on what life is all about, you see a predestined path of eventual misery with a few highlights of happiness for the majority of people. I see families, sex, love, life, experiences.

Now I know it ain't perfect. I know two people going through a divorce and it's not nice, I see people working stressful jobs etc...

But that's all part of life too, isn't it? Point is these people get to experience happiness. You might look at them and think it's all gonna go to shit for most of them but so fucking what even if it did? We all end up worm food anyways. We have a brief amount of time in this Universe. Most people spend it with friends, girls, kids, family. Most people savour moments of happiness. Most people experience life.

As an Incel you are right, our baseline is depression. It can't get any worse. Woo-fucking-hoo for us.
 

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My god, there stories of long term cope sound so pathetic.

Glad Im roping next year.

Wish you guys luck thoufh.
 

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Islam has been light years ahead of everyone else when it comes to foids and the Black Pill.
Sadly, the middle east is far more westernized than its ever been. The old guard will be dead soon, and their cucked descendants will take their place.
 

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I don't know man. I was less depressed and more energetic in my early 20s. Now life just seems more and more pointless. I will probably start gymcelling on a regular basis though, see if it helps but it's easier said than done.
 

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Islam has been light years ahead of everyone else when it comes to foids and the Black Pill.
Christianity (Catholicism and Orthodoxy) is just as much or even more favorable to men. Islam wants men to marry, while in Catholicism, celibacy is the superior form of life and male virginity is highly praised. Basically in Islam, you have to be some sort of betabuxx.

The only reason why people think Islam is better is because Islam stayed out of the Western cultural developments, while Christianity was in the center of it and paid the price. The Western cucked crypto-pagan elites tried to forcibly subvert Christianity to their favor for like 1000 years and put immense pressure on the Church and corrupted regular Christian people, while also harboring the Jews and putting them on pedestal. If Islam was under such pressure for so long, it would be even more cucked than Catholicism is right now, it would be on the level of Protestantism which succumbed to the pressure almost completely.

Muslims were lucky that they stayed out of the West and that certain part of Western SJW-ism even glorified Islam and still defend it. This is the sole reason why Islam is still based and anti-degenerate. And good for them, I want it to remain this way and I like the Taliban and similar groups. I will always support them against the degenerate liberal West.

When it comes to strictly religious things though, there is nothing in Islam as such that could prevent it from being forcibly liberalized. Islam doesn't have the central authority like we Catholics have the Church and is open to interpretation. You have some liberal Muslims parading around in Europe already. People can say that they don't follow the right version of Islam (and I agree) but the same could be said about the liberal tards parading as Christians, yet it didn't stop them from subverting things.

Catholic Church is still the only institution in the West that actively fights against abortion and doesn't have female clergy and has a lot of emphasis on traditional gender roles. It is basically the only organized form of resistance in the West itself. In its pure and traditional form, Catholicism gives the most dignity to men.
 

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Christianity (Catholicism and Orthodoxy) is just as much or even more favorable to men. Islam wants men to marry, while in Catholicism, celibacy is the superior form of life and male virginity is highly praised. Basically in Islam, you have to be some sort of betabuxx.

The only reason why people think Islam is better is because Islam stayed out of the Western cultural developments, while Christianity was in the center of it and paid the price. The Western cucked crypto-pagan elites tried to forcibly subvert Christianity to their favor for like 1000 years and put immense pressure on the Church and corrupted regular Christian people, while also harboring the Jews and putting them on pedestal. If Islam was under such pressure for so long, it would be even more cucked than Catholicism is right now, it would be on the level of Protestantism which succumbed to the pressure almost completely.

Muslims were lucky that they stayed out of the West and that certain part of Western SJW-ism even glorified Islam and still defend it. This is the sole reason why Islam is still based and anti-degenerate. And good for them, I want it to remain this way and I like the Taliban and similar groups. I will always support them against the degenerate liberal West.

When it comes to strictly religious things though, there is nothing in Islam as such that could prevent it from being forcibly liberalized. Islam doesn't have the central authority like we Catholics have the Church and is open to interpretation. You have some liberal Muslims parading around in Europe already. People can say that they don't follow the right version of Islam (and I agree) but the same could be said about the liberal tards parading as Christians, yet it didn't stop them from subverting things.

Catholic Church is still the only institution in the West that actively fights against abortion and doesn't have female clergy and has a lot of emphasis on traditional gender roles. It is basically the only organized form of resistance in the West itself. In its pure and traditional form, Catholicism gives the most dignity to men.
High IQ.
 

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Sadly, the middle east is far more westernized than its ever been. The old guard will be dead soon, and their cucked descendants will take their place.
Exactly. Millennial middle easterners will be the first generation to break with hundreds of years of tradition, and destroy a culture that took centuries of wisdom and trial-and-error to build. Mohamed is spinning in his grave.
 

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