NWO should probably get Zelensky to stop the war when/if Ukraine is pushed out of the breakaway republics

[WizardofSoda]

-Of Ukraine's 41 million people, 32 million are in the areas currently controlled by the government of Ukraine, and 9 million are in the areas controlled by Russia.

-Moldova also now wants to join the EU, and not outright join NATO but to be 'armed to a NATO standard.' Moldova has 2.5 million people, minus ~400,000 that are in the effectively independent country of Transnistria.

-And Finland and Sweden want to join NATO. With Finland in NATO and control of Ukraine the NWO will then be able to put troops all along the Russian borders. And rebuild the Ukrainian army.

The NWO is under growing international pressure to not push too far.


Remaking Ukraine in the USA's own image, and rebuilding Ukraine and integrating it with the EU is going to be a big project. Even Moldova if it joins the EU that is going to take some time and money to develop Moldova.

The EU currently has 445 million people so adding the remaining Ukraine with 32 million + Moldova with 2 million that will bring the EU to 479 million people. That is a big expansion. Meantime the EU also adds about 1.4 million net immigrants a year, so over ten years that will be another 14 million people.

For the NWO the ex-Soviet Union isn't the only area in the world that it is expanding control in. There is also Latin America, Africa and the Middle East.

 

[METALMILITA88]

@JayGoptri

 

[racoon4]

that turbo manlet won't stop until he gets filthy rich from the donations

 

[JayGoptri]

@JayGoptri

Idk man - I'm not really adept at formulating responses to stats. Basically this isn't too interesting to me anymore. Every now and then if there is an interesting angle I'll chime in, I supposed..

 

[WizardofSoda]

Basically in the war the Russians have to fight it out for control of the last 10-20% of the areas of Donbass and Luhansk provinces With the Ukrainian army trying to reinforce their defenders there. And meanwhile Ukraine probably is gearing up for an offensive to come down in a SE direction from Kharkiv. And it seems like Ukraine is gearing up for an additional offensive towards the Kherson province.

So if the Russian army does get control of the rest of those provinces up to their provincial borders, and defends against the probable Ukrainian offensives, then the war will pretty much be over. To go beyond that like if NATO wanted to build Ukraine up with a ton of NATO weaponry, it would take a long time anyway. And Russia probably doesn't have the military resources to push outside of the 4 SE provinces at this time and Russia isn't doing a mass call up of reservists which would indicate that they intended to go further.

Key factor is the majority of people in the 4 SE provinces outside of the city of Mariupol seemed like they wanted to go with Russia. And the rest of Ukraine wants to stay in Ukraine.

 

[Wiz32BlackJiggaboo]

Finland and Sweden want to join NATO. With Finland in NATO and control of Ukraine the NWO will then be able to put troops all along the Russian borders.

That's a bad idea, we need neutral buffers so we don't have to deal with all this bullshit harassment they deny and call false flags, that's basically the entire problem w/ what Ukraine started doing when it stopped being neutral and started being a CIA puppet state of NATO with the fraudulent goverment they installed in their Euromaiden.

Remaking Ukraine in the USA's own image, and rebuilding Ukraine and integrating it with the EU is going to be a big project.

US deepstate has no interest in 'rebuilding' Ukraine, only propping it up enough to harm Russia

 

[HyperVersager_4EVER]

They want the proxy war with Russia so they won't.
Russia and China are the two biggest obstacles to globalists' plans for the world.
Ukraine had been groomed into another Western aligned puppet state(See majority of the people currently holding office in Ukrainian government have diplomas from western universities, the top leaders are all WEF members, etc.)
They want to bleed Russia as much as they can for meddling with their plans by propping up Ukraine with gargantuan military and financial aid.
I expect this battle to become more or less frozen conflict once Battle of Donbass is over, until Russia licks its wounds enough and Ukraine gets further built up by globalists for the second round.
They won't abandon Ukrainian project easily, after sinking so much time and money into it.

 

[WizardofSoda]

They want the proxy war with Russia so they won't.
Russia and China are the two biggest obstacles to globalists' plans for the world.
Ukraine had been groomed into another Western aligned puppet state(See majority of the people currently holding office in Ukrainian government have diplomas from western universities, the top leaders are all WEF members, etc.)
They want to bleed Russia as much as they can for meddling with their plans by propping up Ukraine with gargantuan military and financial aid.
I expect this battle to become more or less frozen conflict once Battle of Donbass is over, until Russia licks its wounds enough and Ukraine gets further built up by globalists for the second round.
They won't abandon Ukrainian project easily, after sinking so much time and money into it.

Ya you are right if Russia goes down and gets taken over by the NWO, then there is just China left who poses any significant challenge. With control of Russia all the 'stans' would fall before long. Then China would be surrounded, and the NWO will start working to break away provinces.

Your scenario seems very plausible. What I started thinking is the NWO they don't have to takeover all of the ex-Soviet Union right now. A lot of the reason they got this far is by being patient. Like you said it will take time to rearm Ukraine's army anyway. That will be a lot easier if Ukraine isn't constantly losing military equipment in battles.

They can wait until Ukraine's army is really strong then go for round 2 down the road. The other thing is who knows what will happen in Russia in time. Like the way I view it is if Russia is this stable and economically successful nation and Russians are more or less happy with the way things are going, then Russia is secure. They can build back their army after this and have a huge standing army, which I don't see NATO trying some crazed offensive trying to take Russia by force head on.

On the other hand if Russia is this super corrupt and poor country with violent gangs, there would likely be instability sooner or later. Which then the US/UK & co. can exploit that opportunity and get behind opposition groups.

 

[subhuman]

Ya you are right if Russia goes down and gets taken over by the NWO, then there is just China left who poses any significant challenge. With control of Russia all the 'stans' would fall before long. Then China would be surrounded, and the NWO will start working to break away provinces.

how long until NWO controls the world? what will happen when they achieve total domination?

 

[WizardofSoda]

how long until NWO controls the world? what will happen when they achieve total domination?

Probably 100-150 years before they have complete control. I think it will be like the Roman Empire but on a global level.

Probably it will look like how the USA has ran things in Western Europe since 1945. Or how the British Empire was before that.

So there is some crazed stuff like Covid mania, and in Rome there was these 'plagues' like the Justinian Plague, which I am suspicious if those were actual real plagues or just hysterias and power games. Yet those plagues also mysteriously went away after a couple years.

 

[subhuman]

Probably 100-150 years before they have complete control. I think it will be like the Roman Empire but on a global level.

Probably it will look like how the USA has ran things in Western Europe since 1945. Or how the British Empire was before that.

So there is some crazed stuff like Covid mania, and in Rome there was these 'plagues' like the Justinian Plague, which I am suspicious if those were actual real plagues or just hysterias and power games. Yet those plagues also mysteriously went away after a couple years.

What is the goal of NWO?

 

[JayGoptri]

how long until NWO controls the world? what will happen when they achieve total domination?

It will look like some version of a StarFleet Federation GloboHomo style, which we have seen being portrayed in many crappy and decent cinema alike.

 

[WizardofSoda]

What is the goal of NWO?

Ya like you figured out in the thread. Every time they take over some new country that country gets the US/UK system basically like free markets, free trade, private property rights, intellectual property rights. And wars basically stop in those areas, like Western Europe has been at peace for 75 years now.


So to look at Poland as an example it has 38 million people. And they are coming up to Western European levels of income and wealth quite quickly. So there is growth in the marketplace for all the Western corporations. Then Poland also has however many hundreds of thousands of workers in each field. So they get hired on as the mega corporations set up operations in the country. Then Poland has its own corporations and they expand over time outside of Poland. And the entrepreneurs make new companies because it also free enterprise.

The Polish public sector researchers they get integrated in with EU research programs. And the Polish armed forces gets integrated in with the NATO military.

With the Empire getting a bigger marketplace and more companies and more scientists and engineers, the progress in science and technology gets faster.


Its like if a company makes a video game and sells it for $60. Then 3 million people buy it around the whole Empire. That is then $180 million in revenues for the game. If they pay people $100,000 a year average, they can have like 300 people working on the game full time, which is $30 million payroll a year. Then they have a whole corporate organization, office buildings, computers and software, utilities, marketing, distribution, profits for investors in the corporation.

For their 300 people working on the video game full time, there is like programmers of various specialties, artists, sound guys, video game testers, video game designers, producers, customer help, webpage operators.

Then there is a bunch of different video game companies. And different platforms. And over time different types of games emerge. So you get this industry.