Serious Normies still get laid (for now anyway) and saying otherwise is turbocope

[RopeMaXXer]

Women are attracted to men on a relative scale, not an absolute one. I've switched back and forth on this thinking quite a bit but what did it for me is reddit posts about stupid thots getting completely turned off by their bf once he got mogged in front of them. Let's be reasonable with this assumption though, they won't fuck a truecel when isolated on an island. No, you're not clever for pointing this out.
Here's how I think most 4-5-6/10 normies get laid. They're a part of a limited social circle and one of the women there never used tinder and noone else significantly mogs the guy. She might see a Chad on the street and get excited, but for her it's not realistic because she doesn't know she can actually fuck him. The guy cracks a few jokes
and they start kissing when drunk enough. This is it. I am not saying she won't monkeybranch and I am not saying the relationship might be particularly stable. But if presented with limited choices, women will make limited decisions. This is how most normies ascend. This still hasnt changed. Stop coping with dating site experiments. We all know how those go, it's not reality. Not for those women that are ignorant of those options.

This way of ascending however will soon go extinct. The share of people getting to know each other through swiping apps is increasing rapidly. I don't think tinder had that big of an impact. It's part of a larger problem. Facebook and having 500 friends means every girl will have at least one Chad in her DMs. This is some wiggle room though. And I believe a big chunk of userbase here became incel becuase they
did not have a social circle that contained girls and were autistic.

 

[TheMinimalist]

Thanks for this thread. Glad to see I'm not the only one who realises that it's not logical for only Chad to get love in this whole world

 

[Lester]

Stop coping with dating site experiments. We all know how those go, it's not reality.

@Chaddit_is_for_cucks would like to know your location

 

[RopeMaXXer]

@Chaddit_is_for_cucks would like to know your location

Read the next sentence mong

 

[Lester]

Read the next sentence mong

iTs A mEmE yOu DiP

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Agree. Majority of my normie “friends” already got laid , Although not all of them told me , I’m assuming because they had girlfriends

 

[RoastieRipper]

Limited options in a small social circle without access to tinder/online chads is the perfect storm of conditions for normies. I think its pretty cope to think this happens in the majority of cases. Things are only going to get worse, normies will only get the scraps leftover from online dating.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

Limited options in a small social circle without access to tinder/online chads is the perfect storm of conditions for normies. I think its pretty cope to think this happens in the majority of cases. Things are only going to get worse, normies will only get the scraps leftover from online dating.

There are plenty of normies in stable relationships with theirlooksmatches. I see them everyday. Even if I were to grant you all your copes about how many hoops they have to jump through, the sheer number of normies that live like this is too much for it to apply to every single one.

 

[ThirdWorldcel]

Some normies get lucky, others have life's circumstances on their side like living in the right city, attending the right high school/college and so on.

 

[WawelDragon1683]

Normies still can get laid. But it is getting harded and harder. It's just a matter of time before inceldom reaches them as well.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

And I believe a big chunk of userbase here became incel becuase they
did not have a social circle that contained girls and were autistic.

You got me. Probably also the same reason I struggle to find employment.

 

[RoastieRipper]

There are plenty of normies in stable relationships with theirlooksmatches. I see them everyday. Even if I were to grant you all your copes about how many hoops they have to jump through, the sheer number of normies that live like this is too much for it to apply to every single one.

Divorce rate/sex once a year/betabuxxing/general simp activity

Thats not what I see as being a stable relationship, normies are way more fucked than they admit or appear on the surface. How normies have so many fucking friends will always elude me, even just online friends... I legit must have the kind of personality to match my looks.

 

[Deleted member 19756]

Yes I was a loser and so were my friends. I knew uglier guys who ascended in a religious cult. But the only way of getting sex was betabuxing and having 5 children. Religious girls tend to be being boring sexually, from what my friends told me.

 

[Deleted member 21227]

Normies still can get laid. But it is getting harded and harder. It's just a matter of time before inceldom reaches them as well.

In a few years Gigachad will be posting here JFL

 

[Deleted member 19079]

yea this is pretty accurate, people on here like to play up dating standards, “lol its over for sub8 men”, when in reality these people are pulling stats from tinder, where standards would be naturally higher.

the only prerequisites for getting laid without betabuxxing is mid-normie tier looks and being nt

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

This is 100% true (for the moment). Some incels are incapable of understanding nuance.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Some normies get lucky, others have life's circumstances on their side like living in the right city, attending the right high school/college and so on.

 

[vic624]

Just about everything can be analyzed via a probability prism. Many of us here are not incel only because of looks, but also because we're autistic retards and/or had shitty helicopter/ethnic upbringings that stunted social development. Combining multiple negative factors greatly reduces probability of sexual success.

The "Chad" character so often referenced here is just the opposite end of that probability spectrum, with the most extreme example being a tall, big dick student athlete living off a trust fund at a large university. This is the best combo of LMS - looks, money, and status, in an enviroment of the most attractive females (women's peak fertility is age 20). Having ALL of these traits and circumstances is obviously going to be extremely rare. For most men, the "sweet spot" of LMS is a little older, but the caveat is that the pool of attractive women decreases as the most men's sexual market value peaks.


Women progressively get fatter in their mid-20s which increases the competition among men for the minority of women who aren't overweight. This results in many men being "objectively" attractive but not "relatively" attractive enough for the level of competition for said females. That's why so many on this site say "it's over for normies" because there's no assumption of sexual marketplace success unless one is a top-tier male.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

You got me. Probably also the same reason I struggle to find employment.

Here's the catch.
You can't fix this once you're in your 20s. Not realistically anyway. People think that just because it's theoretically doable unlike morphing your bones into being attractive, then that means you can do it.
Where do you even begin?
Serious question.
How does one obtain a good social circle with decent women?

 

[Deleted member 4159]

This way of ascending however will soon go extinct. The share of people getting to know each other through swiping apps is increasing rapidly. I don't think tinder had that big of an impact.

I see way less girls on instagram with boyfriends, which means they are sleeping with and holding out for Chads.

 

[CaptainCuck]

Autism/very poor social skills is what creates many many incels I think.

Humans are inherently social creatures and do everything as part of that (gaining status, meeting people, etc). Women especially are influenced by this as they are social followers by nature and are drawn to the strongest males in their social group/vicinity.

Those with autism cant socialise well (if at all) and due to bad past experiences do not want to. This completely goes against human biological nature in the eyes of normies (especially women), causing them to view autists as non-human/subhuman.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

How does one obtain a good social circle with decent women?

I don't. It's over.

 

[Monk of Failure]

Normies get laid thanks to LTR.

 

[FinnCel]

I still think the amount of normies getting laid is getting smaller though

 

[bigantennaemay1]

Humans are inherently social creatures and do everything as part of that (gaining status, meeting people, etc). Women especially are influenced by this as they are social followers by nature and are drawn to the strongest males in their social group/vicinity.

Those with autism cant socialise well (if at all) and due to bad past experiences do not want to. This completely goes against human biological nature in the eyes of normies (especially women), causing them to view autists as non-human/subhuman.

Yeah, I figured this out for myself a few years back, and it's the whole reason I've just sort of given up almost completely on life. Still trying to get a career of some sort going, but even that seems to be headed for the same fate. It seems near impossible to get into even a halfway decent job without connections and social/interviewing skills.

Making friends is like trying to push a big heavy boulder in a dream where you have jelly arms. I hate being autistic. I hate that autism is a thing, and an incurable thing at that.

 

[incel20]

once normies stop getting laid the blackpill will spread exponentially

 

[universallyabhorred]

Autism/very poor social skills is what creates many many incels I think.

Humans are inherently social creatures and do everything as part of that (gaining status, meeting people, etc). Women especially are influenced by this as they are social followers by nature and are drawn to the strongest males in their social group/vicinity.

Those with autism cant socialise well (if at all) and due to bad past experiences do not want to. This completely goes against human biological nature in the eyes of normies (especially women), causing them to view autists as non-human/subhuman.

This is true, for autistics like us there's no hope. We can never attain social success because we stand out as odd and awkward due to our non-verbal and verbal communication issues, along with trouble reading non-verbal and social cues. Even for higher functioning autistics who have enough sense to not noticeably stim in public, have little to no sensory issues and seem relatively articulate.

I have been said to have a flat affect, even when I feign positive emotion, NT's can tell there's something off about me. NT's can barely read me and I can barely read them, we are like different species. On top of that, I can't deal with initiating conversation, unless I need something specifically, which involves the use of icebreakers and have trouble making small talk and keeping it going with follow up questions. I have limited control over my tone, even having some embarrassing effects, like an overly soft or quiet voice, stammering and awkward pauses here and there. Also I struggle to read NTs and understand them on a deep level. I can never connect with them and they don't with me either, we have no common interests either. On top of that I have trouble saying the appropriate thing in social situations and can appear slow sometimes.

This is why social success is impossible for autistics, we need our own groups.

 

[ShyManlet]

Kills me that majority of men are indeed still getting fucking laid without betabuxxing...the biggest suifuel tbh

 

[JestER]

In a few years Gigachad will be posting here JFL

As if that isn't happening already

 

[CaptainCuck]

Yeah, I figured this out for myself a few years back, and it's the whole reason I've just sort of given up almost completely on life. Still trying to get a career of some sort going, but even that seems to be headed for the same fate. It seems near impossible to get into even a halfway decent job without connections and social/interviewing skills.

Making friends is like trying to push a big heavy boulder in a dream where you have jelly arms. I hate being autistic. I hate that autism is a thing, and an incurable thing at that.

It really does suck. Being a social creature that can't socialise naturally is like being a fish that can't swim. It's like a big joke...

This is true, for autistics like us there's no hope. We can never attain social success because we stand out as odd and awkward due to our non-verbal and verbal communication issues, along with trouble reading non-verbal and social cues. Even for higher functioning autistics who have enough sense to not noticeably stim in public, have little to no sensory issues and seem relatively articulate.

I have been said to have a flat affect, even when I feign positive emotion, NT's can tell there's something off about me. NT's can barely read me and I can barely read them, we are like different species. On top of that, I can't deal with initiating conversation, unless I need something specifically, which involves the use of icebreakers and have trouble making small talk and keeping it going with follow up questions. I have limited control over my tone, even having some embarrassing effects, like an overly soft or quiet voice, stammering and awkward pauses here and there. Also I struggle to read NTs and understand them on a deep level. I can never connect with them and they don't with me either, we have no common interests either. On top of that I have trouble saying the appropriate thing in social situations and can appear slow sometimes.

This is why social success is impossible for autistics, we need our own groups.

I understand what you mean by the oddness and causing us to stand out as people to be avoided / kept at a distance.

And funnily enough the more you try to improve those skills, the more normies will hate you. They may not notice right away that you are "different" but every slip up you make they will notice and remember and eventually they will piece everything together. Once that happens, they will start to distance themselves, hating you for "tricking" them into thinking you were normal and that they wasted their time trying to get to know you.

I've been through that countless times due to me spending years actively improving my social skills. Everyone figured it out eventually.

 

[Ellsworth]

I agree with OP that normies are still getting laid but it is not with the same passion that foids fuck Chad. Just because a girl fucks you doesn’t mean she likes you. The normie also doesn’t get worshiped and treated as well as chad nor can he get away with anything he wants like Chad. I shouldn’t even have to mention that normies are fucking mostly below 6/10 foids.

 

[BegoneFoids]

If normies didnt get laid, we would all be Chads. I agree with your post

 

[Deleted member 21714]

This is a very good post. There's a reason why there are so many chumps and betas on Reddit starting their comments with "Me and my gf". The 80/20 rule isn't absolute.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

It really does suck. Being a social creature that can't socialise naturally is like being a fish that can't swim. It's like a big joke...



I understand what you mean by the oddness and causing us to stand out as people to be avoided / kept at a distance.

And funnily enough the more you try to improve those skills, the more normies will hate you. They may not notice right away that you are "different" but every slip up you make they will notice and remember and eventually they will piece everything together. Once that happens, they will start to distance themselves, hating you for "tricking" them into thinking you were normal and that they wasted their time trying to get to know you.

I've been through that countless times due to me spending years actively improving my social skills. Everyone figured it out eventually.

normies remember your congenital sins

 

[Speedloader]

None of my jestermaxxed gymmaxxed normie friends are getting laid

 

[TheGambler2]

Finally a good post I can agree with.People are fixated on Chads-top tier males who can get away with anything( are very rare),and truecels,for whom nothing will help(also very rare).Things like mental health,social skills etc.. matter quite a bit for normies

 

[happiless]

Of course they do, but Chads still get 80% of the sex among people below 30.

 

[zombie]

Normies will have sex with 2-3 people in their lives and think they are miles above us because of that. It's all just cope. Most men have SMV so low that I think most men could be considered incels, at least in some point of their lives.

 

[ShyManlet]

I agree with OP that normies are still getting laid but it is not with the same passion that foids fuck Chad. Just because a girl fucks you doesn’t mean she likes you. The normie also doesn’t get worshiped and treated as well as chad nor can he get away with anything he wants like Chad. I shouldn’t even have to mention that normies are fucking mostly below 6/10 foids.

What a dumbass, most normie foids also only get to be pumped and dumped by chad, whereas the stacies get rich betabuxxers, or chads commitment.

Aint no avrg people men or women are gonna have the life quality of chad and stacies. And dont tell me most foid have it better than chads lol. Chads get to have stacy while pumping and ditching roasties.
While the avrg roasties just get pumped and dumped.

 

[Deleted member 21504]

Yes, but are they getting hot, debt-free virgins without tattoos?

 

[jerrycan dan]

Very high IQ post that is wonderfully reflective of the situation on the ground. I think the sexual event horizon for normies is coming at them a lot faster than you stress though.

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

once normies stop getting laid the blackpill will spread exponentially

i have a theory we will see a mass suicide event in our lifetime

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

And I believe a big chunk of userbase here became incel becuase they
did not have a social circle that contained girls and were autistic.

well yeah, and the main reason you end up without a social circle is antagonistic girls and their simps, lol

 

[Deleted member 8884]

Normies aren't slayers but that's not to say they aren't getting laid in a LTR.

They must not be too short, and they must be hyper NT. Always have plans and chit.

In others words they have to jestermaxx and betabuxx.

 

[ionlycopenow]

Most normies don't get laid either. The ones that do are high tier notmies at least, and they do it through a social circle. Basically its over if you're not NT and outgoing on top of everything else.

In high school I had a friend who knew a larger circle of normies. None of them got laid. and their friends didn't get laid either. They ranged from low tier to mid tier normies.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

alpha fucks, beta bucks (and occasionally gets lucky).
good thread

 

[PeruvianBluesMan]

High iq

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

well yeah, and the main reason you end up without a social circle is antagonistic girls and their simps, lol

btw, what I mean here is that it's girls and their simps kneecapping you anyway, not you being too awkward and autistic or whatever

every time I had social circle trouble it was due to some girl deciding to throw down because I wasn't hot and/or cool enough for her, and her simps just followed suit

 

[Apati]

I don't agree with you. To be in a social circle which have foids in it, you have to be good looking or be very close friends with a good looking male. If you achieve to become a member of a social circle which contains foids because of the second reason, foids might talk with you but they will never fuck you if they are not attracted to you. I have been in too many social circles and i can say all of them only contained males. The reason for that is no foid wanted to talk with us because of our appearance. 6's get laid because they are above average and therefore attractive, 5's get laid if they find a foid that is too ugly for chad even for ons, 4s can't get laid since they are unattractive and because of many desperate 5s which have very low standards that is caused by hypergamy.

 

[Hate_my_life]

Most normies don't get laid either. The ones that do are high tier notmies at least, and they do it through a social circle. Basically its over if you're not NT and outgoing on top of everything else.

This, although I reckon in highschool on a lunar eclipse a normie may get lucky if he's popular amongst everyone and plays his cards right before the foids' hypergamy kicks into overdrive.