Venting No space for nuanced Dissidents

[Hoodpreet]

In the last remaining strongholds of the incelosphere (like this site) you’ll get called out by users like @Morro and @blackpillednigga for acknowledging that race matters and multiculturalism is objectively bad (including for ethnic men), and accused of “trying to divide men.”

In the Dissident Right you’ll get called a “Jew” for criticizing female nature at all, and accused of trying to discourage white men from starting families (JFL).

And both spaces are increasingly full of brainrotted, low IQ, belligerent zoomers who are also too lazy to discuss anything (cause why bother when you can just adopt the opinions of your favorite Kick/Rumble streamer verbatim) and just want to shitpost all day.

Like people will criticize leftists and feminists/soys for making their memes walls of text, and yeah the memes are unfunny as shit, but at least soyfags are willing to have earnest discussions with one another. And they’re also willing to acknowledge the reality of intersectionality (overlapping, independent hierarchies of power in soyciety) rather than trying to boil everything down to one singular power struggle being the only axis and every other thing being misdirection or something subordinate (like how incels think male vs female or ugly vs hot is the only thing, or Dissident Rightists think white vs ethnic is the only thing)

 

[Hoodpreet]

@The Notorious SLAV

 

[Hoodpreet]

@MacheteRape

 

[grimlockcel]

to summarize you want more free thinkers?

 

[Hoodpreet]

to summarize you want more free thinkers?

I want more people that acknowledge nuance

 

[Nithingr]

It makes the prospect of a social solution seemingly impossible. A non-nuanced thinker seems stuck in an intellectual state of fight-or-flight.

Relevant quote from Crime and Punishment 1866:

"He was in the hospital from the middle of Lent till after Easter. When he was better, he remembered the dreams he had had while he was feverish and delirious. He dreamt that the whole world was condemned to a terrible new strange plague that had come to Europe from the depths of Asia. All were to be destroyed except a very few chosen. Some new sorts of microbes were attacking the bodies of men, but these microbes were endowed with intelligence and will. Men attacked by them became at once mad and furious. But never had men considered themselves so intellectual and so completely in possession of the truth as these sufferers, never had they considered their decisions, their scientific conclusions, their moral convictions so infallible. Whole villages, whole towns and peoples went mad from the infection. All were excited and did not understand one another. Each thought that he alone had the truth and was wretched looking at the others, beat himself on the breast, wept, and wrung his hands. They did not know how to judge and could not agree what to consider evil and what good; they did not know whom to blame, whom to justify. Men killed each other in a sort of senseless spite. They gathered together in armies against one another, but even on the march the armies would begin attacking each other, the ranks would be broken and the soldiers would fall on each other, stabbing and cutting, biting and devouring each other. The alarm bell was ringing all day long in the towns; men rushed together, but why they were summoned and who was summoning them no one knew. The most ordinary trades were abandoned, because everyone proposed his own ideas, his own improvements, and they could not agree. The land too was abandoned. Men met in groups, agreed on something, swore to keep together, but at once began on something quite different from what they had proposed. They accused one another, fought and killed each other. There were conflagrations and famine. All men and all things were involved in destruction. The plague spread and moved further and further. Only a few men could be saved in the whole world. They were a pure chosen people, destined to found a new race and a new life, to renew and purify the earth, but no one had seen these men, no one had heard their words and their voices."

 

[MacheteRape]

Also, none of the people you mention are capable of reading. That’s something the commies and generalized libtard hordes have an advantage in; they can fucking read. When I was real into Enver Hoxha, all my Hoxhaist friends would make me do is read Marxist theory. Most “National Socialists” nowadays haven’t even read Mein Kampf ffs.

 

[Maxwellian]

When I was real into Enver Hoxha, all my Hoxhaist friends

Hoxhaist? Was this in the 80s?

 

[MacheteRape]

Hoxhaist? Was this in the 80s?

No this was like a couple years ago when I was a teenager lmao

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

True. Unfortunately, no placement on the political compass makes you immune from closed-mindedness.

 

[Caichan]

multiculturalism is objectively bad

Not disagreeing but why

 

[Misogynist Vegeta]

Mainstream leftists are absolutely not interesting in having discussions with each other, They just want each other to fall in line with whatever the top mainstream lefties believe.

 

[Hoodpreet]

Not disagreeing but why

It inevitably leads to ethnic factionalism and decaying trust/cohesion. This happened in empires of old too like Rome, the Arab Caliphates, the Ottoman Empire, and Austria-Hungary, so it’s not the fault of “the jooz” like some retards on IG reels claim. The concept in and of itself is deeply flawed.

From the perspective of incels, especially ethnic incels like you and I, a worsened dating market is another big problem it presents. Pulling a woman becomes that much harder when the dating market and culture are globalized. Even in groups of women that in practice can’t date out (like curry foids) because no other race of men wants them, they’d still rather go WGTOW than settle with their own men (because they’ll always be stuck mentally comparing and feeling like they “settled”)

 

[Hoodpreet]

Mainstream leftists are absolutely not interesting in having discussions with each other, They just want each other to fall in line with whatever the top mainstream lefties believe.

That’s the libtards and people who are leftist for the aesthetic of it. Among the actual ideologues there’s quite a bit of deliberation

 

[Caichan]

It inevitably leads to ethnic factionalism and decaying trust/cohesion. This happened in empires of old too like Rome, the Arab Caliphates, the Ottoman Empire, and Austria-Hungary, so it’s not the fault of “the jooz” like some retards on IG reels claim. The concept in and of itself is deeply flawed.

From the perspective of incels, especially ethnic incels like you and I, a worsened dating market is another big problem it presents. Pulling a woman becomes that much harder when the dating market and culture are globalized. Even in groups of women that in practice can’t date out (like curry foids) because no other race of men wants them, they’d still rather go WGTOW than settle with their own men (because they’ll always be stuck mentally comparing and feeling like they “settled”)

You make good points. Thanks.

 

[ANTAGONIST]

True. Unfortunately, no placement on the political compass makes you immune from closed-mindedness.

Believing in the soy compass is where close-mindedness begins.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Believing in the soy compass is where close-mindedness begins.

Fair enough, I just thought that it was a fitting description.