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Limitcel

Limitcel

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Anyone who says you should do self-improvement to have the most basic thing in life is stupid.
In the history of humanity, no one has ever needed to do anything to achieve such basic things in life.
I don't know why these retards keep forcing this argument on incels as if it were something normal, I'm not fucking disabled, I don't want to make any effort to get basic things like sex, i should have get it life without even worrying about being an incel
 
Exactly why try when it won't even work while Chad gets alot of sex merely by just existing
 
Exactly why try when it won't even work while Chad gets alot of sex merely by just existing
Fuck that, I don't want to make any effort to get things that any chad can get just by existing
 
Don’t really agree with this take tbh, a lot of fatcels are hidden chads.
 
Fuck that, I don't want to make any effort to get things that any chad can get just by existing
Exactly which is why i have given up
 
You are right. Hillbillies didnt even know how to write yet had something so essential.
 
But Jordan Peterson told me I need to keep improoving and cleaning my room
 
It is absurd to have to jump through so many nonsensical hoops and hurdles to get just the basics of life that almost everyone else gets handed to them for no effort at all. Normies are unable to truly understand what it's like to be an incel, so instead they try to give us advice like a rich person telling a poor person to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
 
Don’t really agree with this take tbh, a lot of fatcels are hidden chads.
in deed. Also many here don't understand that even if chad has it with no effort, chad still need to keep lean, which is also an effort but rly easy for him with his genes and the sources of motivation he constantly have.
Basicly most of "incels" here are just normies that are baffled at how hard it is for them nowadays to get a simple gf, but will eventually ascend after they just try a little bit harder (unironicly)
 
As a sub5 male improving for women is pointless they will always prefer chad.
 
Exactly why try when it won't even work while Chad gets alot of sex merely by just existing

It's just a way to dismiss us. If we bring up being perpetually alone and single, they can always say: "you're just not trying enough!" Doesn't matter how much we try and how many years of this effort pass while still facing dejection from every woman, they can always say "you'd be successful if you just tried more, just keep trying..."

It's legitimate in their minds because it's not technically false that sustained effort over a period of time in certain categories can in certain cases make the difference between a guy having success or not. This is also why the Redpill is not to be distinguished from the Bluepill, as I've said before. If anything the Bluepill just downplays women's pickiness and the extent to which trying can makes a difference in certain cases and may say guys who could benefit from it don't even need to. The Redpill is incomporably more honest about women and everything, which is precisely why it doesn't want to sugarcoat how tough it is out there. But ultimately they just dismiss us in equal measure by advocating individual blame and incessantly suggesting men who are unsuccessful aren't trying enough.

Chad is defined by the lack of needing effort at all to find success in women. He simply meets women in public who are immediately attracted to them, knows how to talk to them, and gets them. This almost entirely is derived from his looks, because women are not complicated and talking to them is not difficult if they are attracted to you and interested in you. Everything from that point forward is easy. The confusion just comes from men who are coping by repeatedly trying to get women who are simply not attracted to them, convincing themselves they just haven't learned enough "game" yet. That's it.

This is why PUA is a complete joke and a scam, it applies only to borderline men who are naïve about women in borderline cases i.e. the woman is on the fence because she is not especially physically attracted to you but may give you a chance, depending on how you are able to talk to her. Such cases exist, but a man is always better off with a woman really attracted to them.

This is not conducive to a good long-term relationship to begin with. What is conducive to a successful long-term relationship is if a woman is completely and genuinely physically attracted to the guy in question, not if her attraction feels like settling for her and she's still fantasizing about other guys she's more attracted to. There is a reason the blackpill emphasizes physical attractiveness so much, particularly traits that you are born with due to genes and can't change through exercising.
 
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So like i did a lot of self improvement but it did not help me with woman.Sure you feel better and healthier but thats not why i did it.

They just say stuff like that to make you shut up.
 
If we bring up being perpetually alone and single, they can always say: "you're just not trying enough!" Doesn't matter how much we try and how many years of this effort pass while still facing dejection from every woman, they can always say "you'd be successful if you just tried more, just keep trying..."
Perfectly put
 
in deed. Also many here don't understand that even if chad has it with no effort, chad still need to keep lean, which is also an effort but rly easy for him with his genes and the sources of motivation he constantly have.
Basicly most of "incels" here are just normies that are baffled at how hard it is for them nowadays to get a simple gf, but will eventually ascend after they just try a little bit harder (unironicly)
Don’t say this people will hate you for it lmao. I’ve been pushing this narrative since the day I joined the forum literally.
 
It's just a way to dismiss us. If we bring up being perpetually alone and single, they can always say: "you're just not trying enough!" Doesn't matter how much we try and how many years of this effort pass while still facing dejection from every woman, they can always say "you'd be successful if you just tried more, just keep trying..." It's legitimate in their minds because it's not technically false that sustained effort over a period of time in certain categories can in certain cases make the difference between a guy having success or not.

However, like people in the thread are saying, Chad is defined by the lack of needing effort at all to find success in women. He simply meets women in public who are immediately attracted to them, knows how to talk to them, and gets them. This almost entirely is derived from his looks, because women are not complicated and talking to them is not difficult if they are attracted to you and interested in you. Everything from that point forward is easy.

This is why PUA is a complete joke and a scam, it applies only to borderline men who are naïve about women in borderline cases i.e. the woman is on the fence because she is not especially physically attracted to you but may give you a chance, depending on how you are able to talk to her.

This is not conducive to a good long-term relationship to begin with. What is conducive to a successful long-term relationship is if a woman is completely and intensely physically attracted to the guy in question, not if her attraction feels like settling for her and she's still fantasizing about other guys she's more attracted to.
Exactly it's fucking over there is just no point in a Sub 5 even trying
 
Don’t say this people will hate you for it lmao. I’ve been pushing this narrative since the day I joined the forum literally.
they all either don't care about me or allready hate me jfl, I cannot care less
 
Exactly it's fucking over there is just no point in a Sub 5 even trying

I disagree. For example, it's possible for a guy who is a 4 to be successful and find a woman who is a 4 who genuinely wants to be with him for a long-term relationship. The Blackpill doesn't say this is impossible, it just explains why it's difficult, more than the guy likely thought it would be at first. (it's also far more difficult than it was in the past, a fact that applies to every guy that isn't Chad, needless to say it's harder the uglier you are) The Bluepill just makes it out to be easier than it is, while the Redpill would also refuse to acknowledge cases where he isn't successful despite trying, insisting he isn't trying enough.

Where possible, it's certainly especially difficult for sub 5 men to date their looksmatches, more than a 5 to find a 5 or a 6 to find a 6. (likewise, it's harder for them to date up than a 5, 6 or 7 — but it's always especially difficult to date up) This is because women are the selectors hence can date up and don't settle, whereas the economy worsening entails more men settling than ever. That said, there do exist cases where a sub 5 guy through effort (such as moneymaxxing, gymmaxxing, and countrymaxxing) over a period of time is able to find success, but this is a lot of effort to have to climb just for a chance to date your looksmatch, which is of course bullshit. (for most of human history, it was as easy as two looksmatches meeting, then mating) And needless to say, it's exponentially harder to find a looksmatch the lower you are on the decile scale, let alone dating up.

The Blackpill isn't about saying it's hopeless for all incels when this is not necessarily the case, it's about preventing guys from going insane on false promises, something neither the Bluepill with its sheer lies and denial nor the Redpill with its incessant mindless individual blame "you must just not be trying enough..." are interested in.

As the introduction states:

The Blackpill looks at a man's likelihood for romantic success along every dimension: race, height, age, face, build, money, mental health, disabilities, and more. Certain "unattractive" features can be more harmful than others or compensated for in different ways. The Blackpill can help an unattractive man find his best pathway to success, if any exists. However, if a man has fallen short in every category of life, it is unlikely he will find a way to succeed. One must always look at the total picture.

If a man is a 4 or 3 in facial attractiveness but has everything else going for him, (he is neurotypical, he is sufficient height, he can make money, he is in good health with no deformities, disabilities or health issues, he is of a preferable ethnicity) he will not be an incel provided he is in a place where it's possible to meet enough women willing to date him, he has enough money, and is in good shape and health.

Most of the 4s and 3s on this website have other issues in addition to having below average faces: they are short, (my face is actually above average, but I am short) they are economically poor, they have shit families, they are not neurotypical, they live somewhere where it's hard to meet women, they are discriminated against due to being an ethnic minority, (this forum is more diverse than many other parts of the internet, every group is represented) and other circumstances in the way of success.
 
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And when it's finally accepted that it's hopeless for us we just get told to dedicate our time and "find enjoyment in" working dead end jobs that dont even pay enough to survive.
 
Don’t really agree with this take tbh, a lot of fatcels are hidden chads.
I think that's a redpill fantasy or fatcel cope or cope from ppl who have never been fat. This guy I met on discord said he lost 100lbs and its over. Here have a look, its horrid.


View: https://imgur.com/a/IfEFLyJ
 
I think that's a redpill fantasy or fatcel cope or cope from ppl who have never been fat. This guy I met on discord said he lost 100lbs and its over. Here have a look, its horrid.


View: https://imgur.com/a/IfEFLyJ

I was 330 and got down to 200 and still am incel so it’s definitely not a lie, but I’ve seen many fatcels ascend when they lose weight.
 

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