No one knows the true % of men who have given up.

[mylifeistrash]

Most men are hiding inside with netflix, junk food, broke, on government money or barely affording to live.

But your average man just sees the few men who are going to work, go outside with friends, or he's young and in college so he only notices the top % of good looking men.

Kinda like how on incel forums, a lot of guys are average or above when they post pictures. But it's probably because the ugliest won't be posting.

(I think fakecels don't exist, they're just not good enough for women in the west, but that's another story).

 

[virgin4life]

(I think fakecels don't exist, they're just not good enough for women in the west, but that's another story).

Good point. I have thought about that, too. An incel is no longer necessarily an ugly nerd. Many normal men are incel these days.

 

[Norky]

Sampling bias. If I dont see incels, they must not exist. Checkmate inkwells

 

[mylifeistrash]

Good point. I have thought about that, too. An incel is no longer necessarily an ugly nerd. Many normal men are incel these days.

calling people fakecels and banning everyone who isn't ugly is just reddit tier gatekeeping tbh

 

[Life Wasted]

"men lead lives of quiet desperation"

Most men know they can't compete with Chad and quietly just drop out and become invisible to society and go missing in statistics so no one knows the true numbers but they are probly way higher than most people realize especially in the west.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

Most men lie about not being virgins. I guarantee you 50% of men in their 20s nowadays are incel, maybe less in late 20s.

 

[starystulejarz]

Most men lie about not being virgins. I guarantee you 50% of men in their 20s nowadays are incel, maybe less in late 20s.

 

[mylifeistrash]

"men lead lives of quiet desperation"

Most men know they can't compete with Chad and quietly just drop out and become invisible to society and go missing in statistics so no one knows the true numbers but they are probly way higher than most people realize especially in the west.

To find out how some of my cousin's are doing, I have to ask their moms if they're even still alive, and the mom usually says "dunno, haven't talked to him in a month"

And these guys had girlfriends when they were teens/early 20s but they hit 30 and they have no career, friends, girlfriend, because things are too competitive for them to keep up.

 

[ReasonableResolver]

calling people fakecels and banning everyone who isn't ugly is just reddit tier gatekeeping tbh

Not only that but doing so contradicts our claims. We can't claim %20 of men get %80 of foids and also say that only 1's and 2's can be incel. There is also a special group of retards that think anyone can get out of incelibacy by just earning money and status. They are a special group of retards that think that attracting foids through money is anywhere near in the same setting as attracting them through looks.

Most men lie about not being virgins. I guarantee you 50% of men in their 20s nowadays are incel, maybe less in late 20s.

Enigma IQ

 

[non_factor]

Most men lie about not being virgins. I guarantee you 50% of men in their 20s nowadays are incel, maybe less in late 20s.

I completely agree with this based on my experience.I just NEVER see average men with a gf,NEVER.Like the few people I know that get into relationships semi regularly are all chadlites or above.

It's funny,roasties say that porn is raising men's standards to an unattainable degree,but it's them who are repulsed by a normal looking man.

 

[RopeMaXXer]

I completely agree with this based on my experience.I just NEVER see average men with a gf,NEVER.Like the few people I know that get into relationships semi regularly are all chadlites or above.

It's funny,roasties say that porn is raising men's standards to an unattainable degree,but it's them who are repulsed by a normal looking man.

Maybe I went a bit overboard. 50% aren't virgins, maybe they got their dick sucked by some weird smelling girl and awkwardly squirted on her cheek. Maybe they were rebound sex for some emotionally damaged roast at some point. But I am convinced that average guy in 20s cannot get steady sex, has to expend herculian effort to get into unstable relationships and cannot get women to pay him any attention.
And these are NTmaxxed guys that are doing something with their lives and there's nothing wrong with them except their face

 

[Words2_live_bye]

Good point.

 

[Michael15651]

Not enough recognition.

 

[Mainländer]

Most men lie about not being virgins. I guarantee you 50% of men in their 20s nowadays are incel, maybe less in late 20s.

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Easily for those born past 1990 50% of guys 20-24 are virgins / never had a gf / never kissed.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

If you’re sub-8 then you’re either a cuck or an incel.
Many sub-8 men maintain their pride and refuse to take the dark road to cuckery.
There are a lot of single people in the world, especially in western countries like the UK, USA, etc
The difference is, single women have kids or friend circles, cucks, fuck buddies, or just go out to a pickup bar when they feel horny
Single men who are sub-8 just rot silently
I dream of the day when they will come together and rise up

 

[OmniVoid]

Good point. I have thought about that, too. An incel is no longer necessarily an ugly nerd. Many normal men are incel these days.

It really is over

 

[Hikikomori]

Another High IQ post OP.

 

[BrettyBoy]

Society is truly doomed, man. Many men are getting cheated out of female attention.

 

[AsiaCel]

come together and rise up